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Title: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: James on July 03, 2019, 10:09:21 AM

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Matt on July 03, 2019, 10:11:21 AM
Thread title alone and no content would already be an A+.

Why do leftists want to take capitalist societies and ruin them?
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: loco on July 03, 2019, 10:38:41 AM
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Post by: Kwon on July 03, 2019, 10:39:32 AM


A+
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on July 03, 2019, 10:41:09 AM
Lol @ Prager Cuck!
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Darren Avey on July 03, 2019, 11:39:53 AM
Fuck the left
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 03, 2019, 12:04:56 PM
Conservative/Right = Likes things the way they are and wants to keep things the way they are.  Generally identifies with successful people and has achieved success under current system.  Often lacks empathy for those who failed.

Liberal/Left = Dislikes things the way they are and want to change things.  Generally identifies with unsuccessful people.  May be successful in current system but empathizes with those who fail in current system.  If successful, often has guilt complex about own success.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IronMagazine.com on July 03, 2019, 12:07:11 PM
Democrats are F'ing MORONS!
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Al Doggity on July 03, 2019, 12:18:49 PM
Liberal/Left = Dislikes things the way they are and want to change things.  Generally identifies with unsuccessful people.  May be successful in current system but empathizes with those who fail in current system.  If successful, often has guilt complex about own success.

Not really. Just recognizes that there are big imbalances in the current system and it could use systemic improvements. It's not impossible for minorities or underprivileged to make it in a Western capitalist society and most of us would never say that, despite it being the right's favorite talking point. Recognizing that you or others have had to deal with certain obstacles that shouldn't exist doesn't just boil down to guilt, no matter how easy that narrative is.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 03, 2019, 12:35:08 PM
Not really. Just recognizes that there are big imbalances in the current system and it could use systemic improvements. It's not impossible for minorities or underprivileged to make it in a Western capitalist society and most of us would never say that, despite it being the right's favorite talking point. Recognizing that you or others have had to deal with certain obstacles that shouldn't exist doesn't just boil down to guilt, no matter how easy that narrative is.

I'm a little unclear about what your trying to say.

Take advantage of public education.  At a minimum learn to read, do arithmetic, graduate high school.

Get a job, do it well, show up, make a living.  Save money, invest, etc.

If you are exceptional you may go farther.

People who think they deserve anything more than that are unrealistic.

If the best job you can find is laboring, then do it well.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Rambone on July 03, 2019, 01:01:27 PM
The last time I said the title out loud was when plans for a Chick-Fil-A inside Buffalo/Niagara Airport were scrapped because some panty-waist queen got upset. It would’ve been a long awaited option for decent food for a relatively small airport, but nooooo lets cater to the 1% fruitcakes who are offended by everything. If you don’t like it, chose a different restaurant. That’s what a free market is, right?
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: ratherbebig on July 03, 2019, 01:02:47 PM
whatabout those who are left handed  ???
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Al Doggity on July 03, 2019, 01:12:49 PM
I'm a little unclear about what your trying to say.

Take advantage of public education.  At a minimum learn to read, do arithmetic, graduate high school.

Get a job, do it well, show up, make a living.  Save money, invest, etc.

If you are exceptional you may go farther.

People who think they deserve anything more than that are unrealistic.

If the best job you can find is laboring, then do it well.



And for the most part, the beginning of your post is what most people do, regardless or race,gender or economic background.

However, once you get into the micros of how these things works, there's a lot of variation that really doesn't have anything to do with how smart you are and how hard you work.

One example that was actually discussed on here not that long ago (actually maybe it was about a year ago)- homeownership and how it plays into intergenerational wealth.  No one brought it around to race, like most threads on here, so people weren't parsing everything to fit an agenda. People were discussing how they knew people who got inheritances of $500k+ in their 50s even though they'd been struggling for most of their adult life. And I know some people who've had similar  breaks.  

There's a lot of other little things that just show up in day-to-day life, and I'm sure for most it's just sounds like "tough titties. everybody's got some shit to get over".
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: TheShape. on July 03, 2019, 02:23:59 PM
Conservative/Right = Likes things the way they are and wants to keep things the way they are.  Generally identifies with successful people and has achieved success under current system.  Often lacks empathy for those who failed.

Liberal/Left = Dislikes things the way they are and want to change things.  Generally identifies with unsuccessful people.  May be successful in current system but empathizes with those who fail in current system.  If successful, often has guilt complex about own success.
Great post! Very truthful.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 03, 2019, 05:35:29 PM
And for the most part, the beginning of your post is what most people do, regardless or race,gender or economic background.

However, once you get into the micros of how these things works, there's a lot of variation that really doesn't have anything to do with how smart you are and how hard you work.

One example that was actually discussed on here not that long ago (actually maybe it was about a year ago)- homeownership and how it plays into intergenerational wealth.  No one brought it around to race, like most threads on here, so people weren't parsing everything to fit an agenda. People were discussing how they knew people who got inheritances of $500k+ in their 50s even though they'd been struggling for most of their adult life. And I know some people who've had similar  breaks.  

There's a lot of other little things that just show up in day-to-day life, and I'm sure for most it's just sounds like "tough titties. everybody's got some shit to get over".

Of course.  It's called networking, human relationship skills, connections, etc.  Those skills are the crucial ones that get you into management positions, and not everybody has those skills.  Some people are leaders, most aren't.  If your father owns the company you have a leg up.

But even without those skills of connections you just get a job and do it.  Show up on time.  Do the job right.  Dig the ditch, shovel the sh*t.

You'll get paid.

Everybody isn't going to be the CEO.   It doesn't matter if you're white or black.  That's life.

People come over from Asia and sleep on rice sacks and eat rice for years, save their money and start a business.  They tough it out so that their kids can go to college and become doctors.







Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Al Doggity on July 03, 2019, 08:53:47 PM
Of course.  It's called networking, human relationship skills, connections, etc.  Those skills are the crucial ones that get you into management positions, and not everybody has those skills.  Some people are leaders, most aren't.  If your father owns the company you have a leg up.

No, these things aren't really related to what I was talking about in my last post, and especially not related to the specific example I used. I suspect you didn't actually read the post, but I don't blame you. I don't have time to be reading all the boring ass shit I reply to on this board, either.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: ratherbebig on July 04, 2019, 01:45:11 AM
left hand path.

They often reject societal convention and the status quo, which some suggest is in a search for spiritual freedom. As a part of this, LHP followers embrace magical techniques that would traditionally be viewed as taboo, for instance using sex magic or embracing Satanic imagery.[1]:197 As Mogg Morgan wrote, the "breaking of taboos makes magic more potent and can lead to reintegration and liberation, [for example] the eating of meat in a vegetarian community can have the same liberating effect as anal intercourse in a sexually inhibited straight society.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 04, 2019, 02:35:57 AM




Identical to destruction by Taliban & ISIS !.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: SuperTed on July 04, 2019, 02:36:08 AM
Lol @ Prager Cuck!

It's the kosher right attempting to repackage their brand for a younger audience, yet it mostly just appeals to the +50 year old conservatives who watch Hannity and Beck.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Slapper on July 04, 2019, 04:11:44 AM
Of course.  It's called networking, human relationship skills, connections, etc.  Those skills are the crucial ones that get you into management positions, and not everybody has those skills.  Some people are leaders, most aren't.  If your father owns the company you have a leg up.

Firstly, most (adult) people don't want to be led any where or in any thing (nothing but blue skies between me and God). 99.99% of "leaders" are imposed/selected, not earned, which used to be the case years ago.

The only skill you need to make it up the management ladder is #1 kiss ass like it's an olympic sport and you just broke the world record three times in a row, #2 be ready to sacrifice your personal for your professional life, #3 be goal driven, open-minded and willing to learn and #4 get ready to have to put up with people's personalities.

I've led teams in the past and once my wife and I had children I basically got cornered by life: either my family or my job. I chose family. A very select few choose their jobs. There really isn't more than that. People make "leading" a special innate skill you can't teach... bullshit. All bullshit. Kiss the right ass (not everyone's, mind you) and you will be promoted... if that's what you want.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 04, 2019, 04:54:33 AM
Left will step over every homeless American to give Muzzies and refugee's the keys to America.

Sad retards...
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 04, 2019, 05:31:07 AM
Firstly, most (adult) people don't want to be led any where or in any thing (nothing but blue skies between me and God). 99.99% of "leaders" are imposed/selected, not earned, which used to be the case years ago.

The only skill you need to make it up the management ladder is #1 kiss ass like it's an olympic sport and you just broke the world record three times in a row, #2 be ready to sacrifice your personal for your professional life, #3 be goal driven, open-minded and willing to learn and #4 get ready to have to put up with people's personalities.

I've led teams in the past and once my wife and I had children I basically got cornered by life: either my family or my job. I chose family. A very select few choose their jobs. There really isn't more than that. People make "leading" a special innate skill you can't teach... bullshit. All bullshit. Kiss the right ass (not everyone's, mind you) and you will be promoted... if that's what you want.

What you call "kissing butt" is also called office politics, networking, making connections, relationship building, sucking up, etc.

Some people are really good at it.  In traditional corporate organizations this is what gets people ahead (as long as they can also do the job adequately).

Yes, as you said, some people devote all their energy to their job.  This is traditional 1950-1960s corporate America with the husband putting all his focus on his job and the stay-at-home wife raises the kids.  It still goes on in many companies and is expected for advancement to higher levels.  Total devotion to the job.

Some people are born leaders and people eagerly follow them.  Religious leaders are examples.  Other people are put in positions of authority as in business or military for various reasons.  You have to do what they tell you or you get fired or disciplined.

Some people are not followers. 
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 04, 2019, 07:13:20 AM
What you call "kissing butt" is also called office politics, networking, making connections, relationship building, sucking up, etc.

Some people are really good at it.  In traditional corporate organizations this is what gets people ahead (as long as they can also do the job adequately).

Yes, as you said, some people devote all their energy to their job.  This is traditional 1950-1960s corporate America with the husband putting all his focus on his job and the stay-at-home wife raises the kids.  It still goes on in many companies and is expected for advancement to higher levels.  Total devotion to the job.

Some people are born leaders and people eagerly follow them.  Religious leaders are examples.  Other people are put in positions of authority as in business or military for various reasons.  You have to do what they tell you or you get fired or disciplined.

Some people are not followers.  

Kiss asses and suck ups don't make good leaders. The ones that get ahead through office politics often look to promote those whose qualities  remind them of their own sucking up.  I despise those who aspire to make friendships with the agenda of what they can get out of it.

You can see the lack of character in people who seek out those that can help them with their phony agenda driven friendships while they discard those who can do nothing for them. Character is revealed in how you treat those that can do nothing for you. I will never follow in the work place or out of the work place the model of networking which is millennial buzz word for agenda driven friendships. Let's see who laughs the loudest at the boss's joke.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 04, 2019, 07:26:53 AM
Kiss asses and suck ups don't make good leaders. The ones that get ahead through office politics often look to promote those whose qualities  remind them of their own sucking up.  I despise those who aspire to make friendships with the agenda of what they can get out of it.

You can see the lack of character in people who seek out those that can help them with their phony agenda driven friendships while they discard those who can do nothing for them. Character is revealed in how you treat those that can do nothing for you. I will never follow in the work place or out of the work place the model of networking which is millennial buzz word for agenda driven friendships. Let's see who laughs the loudest at the boss's joke.

Unfortunately this crap is commonplace and has always been and always will be when dealing with human beings.

You see it in government and organization leaders who only want "yes" men around them.  They can't tolerate opinions that differ from their own.

If you present an alternate viewpoint you are out.

Trump himself cannot tolerate other viewpoints from his staff.  This behavior crosses all political lines.

"Go along to get along" is a common term.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: SF1900 on July 04, 2019, 07:47:00 AM
You gotta kiss a little ass to get a head in this world. It doesn't mean if you kiss ass, but have zero skills, that you will get promoted.

But very good skills, with a dose of schmoozing, will get you further than doing one without the other.

It's how I became VP of Caliber Fitness Solutions The Leader in Human Evolution since 2001.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 04, 2019, 07:54:53 AM
You gotta kiss a little ass to get a head in this world. It doesn't mean if you kiss ass, but have zero skills, that you will get promoted.

But very good skills, with a dose of schmoozing, will get you further than doing one without the other.

It's how I became VP of Caliber Fitness Solutions The Leader in Human Evolution since 2001.

The sky's the limit!  ;D
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: loco on July 04, 2019, 08:11:50 AM
whatabout those who are left handed  ???

Those become president of the f@#ing US of A.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: SF1900 on July 04, 2019, 08:16:13 AM
The sky's the limit!  ;D

I am hoping when Vince retires, I can take over the company.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: loco on July 04, 2019, 08:31:24 AM
Getting ahead in the corporate world is very complex.  Some of you here have made some very valid points, but it's a lot more complex than that.

For example, you left out the part about getting ahead simply because you are tall, good looking, well dressed, with a very likable personality.  Add to that being male and white and you have it made.  It's sad, but true.  It's human nature.

Surveys have shown that most, if not all, would rather work with someone who is incompetent but very likable than work with someone who is competent but a complete jerk all the time. 
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Slapper on July 04, 2019, 08:48:49 AM
What you call "kissing butt" is also called office politics, networking, making connections, relationship building, sucking up, etc.

No, that's not what I meant. That is actually a mistake most people make. You need to kiss your manager's ass, the one with hiring/firing/promotion capacity. Take interest in his likes and hobbies, inform yourself and build a common-personality perception. Most managers are too busy with the day-to-day bullshit to notice who is truly excelling. They depend solely on someone else's feedback, and more often than not, the low rank managers (team leads without hiring capacity) will notice your intent and shut you down. So you skip a level and sweet talk the big boss' ego. If you're lucky you get to go to a golf outing or out for drinks, and that's their way of telling you that you're in the goombah circle of trust. If you don't do it well, they will let you know soon enough because you will be shut down immediately. Notice that this not networking. Networking is for the "low lying fruit".

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Some people are really good at it.  In traditional corporate organizations this is what gets people ahead (as long as they can also do the job adequately).

That's not true. In today's corporate world, the way CEOs got around hiring people for jobs that were beyond their skill set was by creating a new layer of "work ants" called SME (subject matter experts) that feed the managerial levels with the information they need in order to make "decisions" (which is bullshit because it isn't a decision, it a process of elimination exercise). In the old days, knowing your job 360º was MANDATORY. Your manager knew A LOT MORE than you about your job. Not anymore.  

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Yes, as you said, some people devote all their energy to their job.  This is traditional 1950-1960s corporate America with the husband putting all his focus on his job and the stay-at-home wife raises the kids.  It still goes on in many companies and is expected for advancement to higher levels.  Total devotion to the job.

The ones that become professionally successful are the ones that focus on the job, not on the family. Goldman Sachs used to tell its new hires "now we're your family". Nonetheless, the kind of life that is required to be solely devoted to the job is the opposite of family life. Some people are able to do it.

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Some people are born leaders and people eagerly follow them. Religious leaders are examples.  Other people are put in positions of authority as in business or military for various reasons.  You have to do what they tell you or you get fired or disciplined.

Dude, this is so not true it ain't even funny. The immense majority of "leaders" in today's society are imposed by someone else. The politicians that you elect into office, the captain of the soccer club your and my kids play in, the priest at the local church, my office manager, et cetera.

Don't get me wrong, there are people who just want to show up to work and pass paper around, people who would rather rescind all their responsibilities to someone else, but they are either in the minority or victims of a huge political scheme.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 04, 2019, 03:26:32 PM
Legendary Her Hitler was not kissing bums like others ......................
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 04, 2019, 03:29:44 PM
I am hoping when Vince retires, I can take over the company.

Bombard him with avocados  ;)
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 04, 2019, 03:43:47 PM
At this point, the country essentially needs to be split in two. On one side, the limited government types who just want a few basic services; on the other, the Liz Warren, Bernie nanny state with free everything. Once you make your decision, that’s it. Of course, you’d need big walls for when the latter group tries to get out.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Fortress on July 05, 2019, 12:22:09 AM
The lefties among us are pure imbeciles and psychos.

To understand the insanity of leftism is to immediately reject it in all forms.

At some point, to save western societies, it’ll be required to overtake these traitors with force and bloodshed.

The Joo Globalist Elite is hoping to indoctrinate all younger generations into leftism to aid them in the destruction of the greatest nations ever known to mankind.

To solidify absolute domination and control.

To enslave the billions around the globe. Billions of murky-brown, sub-IQ buffoons only smart enough to do the “grunt work”.

Dilute the white race with shitskin DNA (aka “multiculturalism” and “diversity”) and dismantle our freedoms, values and cultures into one big pot of generic lameness and obedience.

Spread the word. Know the truth.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 05, 2019, 02:19:32 AM
At this point, the country essentially needs to be split in two. On one side, the limited government types who just want a few basic services; on the other, the Liz Warren, Bernie nanny state with free everything. Once you make your decision, that’s it. Of course, you’d need big walls for when the latter group tries to get out.

I fully agree.  Lets do east and west.  I call west for the more traditional conservative people.  Lets round up all the douchey liberals in California, Oregon and Colorado and ship them back east.

Build a big beautiful wall in between.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 05, 2019, 05:41:34 AM
I fully agree.  Lets do east and west.  I call west for the more traditional conservative people.  Lets round up all the douchey liberals in California, Oregon and Colorado and ship them back east.

Build a big beautiful wall in between.

Actually, it's more like big city vs. rural.

Most big cities are liberal because they are mostly minorities.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Powerlift66 on July 05, 2019, 05:43:39 AM
The lefties among us are pure imbeciles and psychos.

To understand the insanity of leftism is to immediately reject it in all forms.

At some point, to save western societies, it’ll be required to overtake these traitors with force and bloodshed.

The Joo Globalist Elite is hoping to indoctrinate all younger generations into leftism to aid them in the destruction of the greatest nations ever known to mankind.

To solidify absolute domination and control.

To enslave the billions around the globe. Billions of murky-brown, sub-IQ buffoons only smart enough to do the “grunt work”.

Dilute the white race with shitskin DNA (aka “multiculturalism” and “diversity”) and dismantle our freedoms, values and cultures into one big pot of generic lameness and obedience.

Spread the word. Know the truth.


Perfectly said and 100% true, which is very scary to our nations future's...
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Griffith on July 05, 2019, 05:48:14 AM
I fully agree.  Lets do east and west.  I call west for the more traditional conservative people.  Lets round up all the douchey liberals in California, Oregon and Colorado and ship them back east.

Build a big beautiful wall in between.

If the USA divided into two, it would be interesting to see the differences in a few decades between the Right and Left.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IroNat on July 05, 2019, 05:57:34 AM
If the USA divided into two, it would be interesting to see the differences in a few decades between the Right and Left.

Right

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QE008uzTG1U/TjvmgGCuN4I/AAAAAAAAC94/LjdNFNx-wxI/s1600/americangothic.jpg)

Left

(https://media.timeout.com/images/103248403/630/472/image.jpg)
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 05, 2019, 01:12:28 PM
If the USA divided into two, it would be interesting to see the differences in a few decades between the Right and Left.

That would be hilarious.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Kwon on July 05, 2019, 01:19:56 PM
If the USA divided into two, it would be interesting to see the differences in a few decades between the Right and Left.

Indeed! Raise a wall diving USA in half and fastforward 50 years, then compare the left and the right.

I'm sure the left side would be filled with alien-looking people with colored hair.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: ratherbebig on July 05, 2019, 01:21:01 PM
think theyve tried that allready

south and north korea.

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 05, 2019, 02:55:52 PM
Indeed! Raise a wall diving USA in half and fastforward 50 years, then compare the left and the right.

I'm sure the left side would be filled with alien-looking people with colored hair.

It would be like out every other experiment where capitalism and socialism were placed by side side: North Korea / South Korea, East Germany / West Germany, Venezuela / Chile.
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: ratherbebig on July 05, 2019, 03:03:33 PM
how come the socialist lovers dont go to venezuela and help build a socialist paradise? it sounds to me you would want to go there and experience it with your own eyes and be part of building that future or maybe with your expertise and knowledge help them!
unfortunately the doors to north korea seems to be closed... otherwise im sure they would immigrate there  ::)

for being a bunch of globalists they doesnt seem very interested in moving, experience other cultures, migrating etc very strange
Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: IRON CROSS on July 05, 2019, 03:40:28 PM
Actually, it's more like big city vs. rural.

Most big cities are liberal because they are mostly minorities.




Without food supply they'll be screwed  ;D

Title: Re: The Left Ruins Everything
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 05, 2019, 03:48:52 PM
how come the socialist lovers dont go to venezuela and help build a socialist paradise? it sounds to me you would want to go there and experience it with your own eyes and be part of building that future or maybe with your expertise and knowledge help them!
unfortunately the doors to north korea seems to be closed... otherwise im sure they would immigrate there  ::)

for being a bunch of globalists they doesnt seem very interested in moving, experience other cultures, migrating etc very strange


They also never use world standards when they talk about so called American poverty where the poor are the most obese people on the planet.