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Title: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: SF1900 on August 04, 2019, 02:55:50 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1039046

At least nine people were killed and 16 people injured after a shooting early Sunday in Dayton, Ohio, police said.

The suspected shooter, who is believed to have acted alone, is also dead.

The shooting in Dayton comes just hours after 20 people were killed and 26 more injured in El Paso, Texas, when a gunman opened fire in a Walmart and around a nearby shopping mall on Saturday.

Lieutenant Colonel Matt Carper of the Dayton Police told reporters the latest mass shooting to hit the U.S. took place at around 1:00 a.m. ET.

Carper said the 16 people who were injured have been hospitalized. Their conditions are unknown.

A spokesperson for the local Miami Valley Hospital, Terrea Little, confirmed to NBC News that the hospital was treating 16 victims.

Reports from local media and eyewitness accounts to NBC News suggest the shooting took place at or near Ned Peppers bar, in the heart of Dayton's Oregon District.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: SF1900 on August 04, 2019, 04:54:49 AM
Two US gun massacres in 14 hours: Nine dead and 16 injured in Ohio bar shooting by a 'white man in all black' who was shot dead by police - just hours after gunman killed 20 in 'anti-Mexican' attack at a Texas Walmart

Nine people have been killed and at least 16 injured after a shooting at a bar in Ohio today in the second US massacre in 14 hours.

Police responded to calls about an active shooter in the area of East 5th Street in the Oregon District on Dayton, according to WHIO-TV.

The the gunman, who was using a 'long gun', was killed by police who were nearby in the early hours of this morning.

Customers said on social media many at Ned Peppers Bar were 'piling on top of each other to get out'.

Witnesses described 'casualties everywhere' and an attacker who was a 'white man dressed all in black'.

The latest massacre came around 14 hours after America's tenth worst mass shooting which saw 20 people shot dead when a gunman opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, yesterday.

Patrick Crusius wrote an anti-immigrant manifesto published on an online forum detailing his hatred of Hispanic people.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Fortress on August 04, 2019, 05:06:12 AM
This is what happens as a precursor to war.

Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 04, 2019, 05:26:19 AM
"White Man dressed all in Black" in Ohio.

Damn, Im sure he was a Democrat!   

What piece of shiiiiit
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: TheShape. on August 04, 2019, 06:34:22 AM
Ah yes the election season begins, notice how up until yesterday we haven’t heard of a mass shooting for months.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: che on August 04, 2019, 07:11:39 AM
 FBI investigating 1,000 white supremacist, domestic terrorism cases in 4Chan ,8Chan and reddit............. I will be using the FBI tip line so they can  investigate Getbig also , sorry Ron
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 04, 2019, 07:34:51 AM
FBI investigating 1,000 white supremacist, domestic terrorism cases in 4Chan ,8Chan and reddit............. I will be using the FBI tip line so they can  investigate Getbig also , sorry Ron

Meanwhile, 20K Mexican and Muzzy refugee  criminals are welcomed w/  open arms cuntz.
Libs want to deport all white men (with balls) to 3rd world cuntries.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 04, 2019, 07:39:38 AM
Meanwhile, 20K Mexican and Muzzy refugee  criminals are welcomed w/  open arms cuntz.
Libs want to deport all white men (with balls) to 3rd world cuntries.

Meanwhile 274 people killed in Chicago since the beginning of the year,  1355 shot. https://heyjackass.com/


Politicians silent
Title: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: SF1900 on August 04, 2019, 08:22:27 AM
El Paso, Dayton make 251 mass shootings in the US in 216 days, more shootings than days in the year

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/08/03/el-paso-walmart-shooting-250th-mass-shooting-this-year/1913486001/

As gunfire ripped through America in an unprecedented 24 hours, a bleak milestone in a nation pocked by gun violence was marked: There have been 251 mass shootings in 2019.

A shooting spree early Sunday at an entertainment district in Dayton, Ohio – which left at least nine dead and 16 hurt – notched an even darker statistic: It occurred on the 216th day of the year, meaning there have been more mass shootings than days so far this year.

That incident followed a rampage Saturday at a Walmart jammed with back-to-school shoppers in El Paso, Texas, which left 20 dead and 26 injured.

The two massacres became the nation's latest mass shootings as defined by the Gun Violence Archive, a not-for-profit organization that provides online public access to information about gun-related violence.

Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 04, 2019, 08:26:36 AM
There are already threads on the subject , why create a new one?
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: Powerlift66 on August 04, 2019, 08:52:09 AM
Crazy stats, world has gone to hell... Not coming back.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: chaos on August 04, 2019, 08:54:13 AM
We already covered this, bullshit stat made up to scare the general public of uneducated morons like yourself. :)
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: beakdoctor on August 04, 2019, 08:59:36 AM
Meanwhile 274 people killed in Chicago since the beginning of the year,  1355 shot. https://heyjackass.com/


Politicians silent

I'm sure they were all Republicans just exercising their 2nd amendment right
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Princess L on August 04, 2019, 09:02:49 AM
Meanwhile 274 people killed in Chicago since the beginning of the year,  1355 shot. https://heyjackass.com/


Politicians silent

Typical summer Chicago weekend

Most violent weekend in Chicago this year: At least 52 shot, 8 fatally
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-50-shot-10-fatally-weekend-gun-violence-20190603-story.html

At least 60 shot, 8 killed in another deadly Chicago weekend
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-gun-violence-at-least-60-shot-8-killed-in-another-deadly-weekend/

More than 60 kids 15 and younger shot in Chicago this year:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-multiple-people-shot-20180701-story.html

Chicago weekend shootings leave 72 shot, 13 dead
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/08/06/chicago-violence-leaves-71-shot-11-dead-weekend/914141002/

56 people were shot in Chicago over the weekend, including four fatally
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chicago-gun-violence-56-shot-this-weekend-four-killed/

9 Killed, 39 Wounded In Weekend Shootings Across Chicago
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/07/29/weekend-shootings-gun-violence-4/

6 Killed, at Least 16 Wounded in Shootings Across Chicago
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-weekend-gun-violence-shootings-police-513299071.html


https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/04/weekend-shootings-chicago-2/

CHICAGO (CBS)– At least three people were killed and 37 were wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago.

This weekend total includes four shootings on August 2, 12 shootings on August 3 and five shootings on August 4.

There were two mass shooting overnight in Chicago.

At least 1 person died and 11 others were wounded since just after 1 a.m. Sunday in two separate Chicago shootings.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: chaos on August 04, 2019, 09:28:06 AM
This is what happens as a precursor to war.


Antifa firing it up early.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: TheShape. on August 04, 2019, 09:32:22 AM
Meanwhile 274 people killed in Chicago since the beginning of the year,  1355 shot. https://heyjackass.com/


Politicians silent
They’re non white so it’s not important to them
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: LittleJ on August 04, 2019, 09:43:35 AM
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/04/weekend-shootings-chicago-2/

CHICAGO (CBS)– At least three people were killed and 37 were wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago.

This weekend total includes four shootings on August 2, 12 shootings on August 3 and five shootings on August 4.

There were two mass shooting overnight in Chicago.

At least 1 person died and 11 others were wounded since just after 1 a.m. Sunday in two separate Chicago shootings.

If princess L had a brother he would look like him. Most useless mod on getbig.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: el numero uno on August 04, 2019, 09:56:26 AM
Another one? :o :o :o
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: GigantorX on August 04, 2019, 10:12:35 AM
Picking up another AR later this week.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: G_Thang on August 04, 2019, 10:48:04 AM
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/08/04/weekend-shootings-chicago-2/

CHICAGO (CBS)– At least three people were killed and 37 were wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago.

This weekend total includes four shootings on August 2, 12 shootings on August 3 and five shootings on August 4.

There were two mass shooting overnight in Chicago.

At least 1 person died and 11 others were wounded since just after 1 a.m. Sunday in two separate Chicago shootings.

You are trying to defend white boys going wild with ghetto drug war stats.  you (all) really reach on this site.  why don't we drop mexican cartel vs mexican cartel stats too, LOL.  big difference between dealers gunning enough other down vs white showing up in a community aka dyalnn roof
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 04, 2019, 11:07:11 AM
Meanwhile, 20K Mexican and Muzzy refugee  criminals are welcomed w/  open arms cuntz.
Libs want to deport all white men (with balls) to 3rd world cuntries.
If all white men are deported to 3rd world countries they won't be 3rd world countries anymore.  The countries they left will be.
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Dokey111 on August 04, 2019, 11:34:15 AM
If all white men are deported to 3rd world countries they won't be 3rd world countries anymore.  The countries they left will be.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 04, 2019, 11:44:55 AM
Looks like another doofy white incel to me.  Is this one on psyche meds too?
Title: A bunch of people just died. Let’s light candles.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on August 04, 2019, 12:19:54 PM
What is it with this bullshit tradition of lighting candles after a tragic death? It is the dumbest shit ever. Does it make people feel better?

(https://i0.wp.com/www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2019/08/vigil.jpg?w=2000&ssl=1)
Title: Re: A bunch of people just died. Let’s light candles.
Post by: Army of One on August 04, 2019, 12:23:16 PM
What is it with this bullshit tradition of lighting candles after a tragic death? It is the dumbest shit ever. Does it make people feel better?

(https://i0.wp.com/www.ktsm.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/38/2019/08/vigil.jpg?w=2000&ssl=1)

Sheep behaviour with people who want to fit in
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: SF1900 on August 04, 2019, 01:08:08 PM
 :o

“The gunman's sister, 22-year-old Megan Betts, was among those killed. Another 27 people were injured.”
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: Army of One on August 04, 2019, 01:08:42 PM
:o

“The gunman's sister, 22-year-old Megan Betts, was among those killed. Another 27 people were injured.”

Her and her boyfriend were found shot dead in a car after the shootings.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: chaos on August 04, 2019, 01:18:26 PM
Picking up another AR later this week.
Which one?
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 04, 2019, 01:29:51 PM
 8)
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2019, 02:29:42 PM
Over 41 million abortions worldwide in 2018.....

Hope this helps
Title: Re: A bunch of people just died. Let’s light candles.
Post by: IroNat on August 04, 2019, 02:30:23 PM
Take the shooter and light a big candle under him.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: BB on August 04, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
This one will fade away or change into something else soon. The shooter was a leftist with incel characteristics, that hated, yet loved guns for his own use -

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/ .

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/ .


The twitter outrage is slowing down as we speak.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 04, 2019, 05:34:07 PM
This one will fade away or change into something else soon. The shooter was a leftist with incel characteristics, that hated, yet loved guns for his own use -

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/ .

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/ .


The twitter outrage is slowing down as we speak.

Oops

Connor Betts: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know – Heavy.com

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On social media, the suspect’s biography started to emerge. On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.”
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: BB on August 04, 2019, 05:40:27 PM
"Dayton 24/7 Now spoke with other classmates of Betts' who said he was expelled from school after officials found a notebook where he reportedly wrote a list of people who he wanted to rape, kill and skin their bodies. The classmate we spoke with said Betts was supposed to write a letter of apology to the people on the list. After being expelled, Betts was allowed back to school, according to the classmate. The classmate added Betts was not a loner, but had friends."

https://dayton247now.com/news/local/dayton-police-fbi-on-scene-in-bellbrook-neighborhood-related-to-oregon-district-shooting .

(Quoted portion at bottom of page).
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: el numero uno on August 04, 2019, 06:43:02 PM
8)

Pointing out how small a percentage is is not a good argument.

AIDS kills more or less the same amount of people a year in the U.S. Should we stop caring about AIDS given how small the percentage is?
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 04, 2019, 06:50:01 PM
"White Man dressed all in Black" in Ohio.

Damn, Im sure he was a Democrat!   

What piece of shiiiiit


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/4/connor-betts-ohio-gunman-was-elizabeth-warren-supp/?fbclid=IwAR1U74uLiMFUdXEIklgxeCAW-KbG15LpfHcIsHNZNTxuPwW6jBtw_pPkY6w
Title: Re: Mass shooting: 9 killed, 16 injured—Ohio
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 04, 2019, 06:55:28 PM

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/4/connor-betts-ohio-gunman-was-elizabeth-warren-supp/?fbclid=IwAR1U74uLiMFUdXEIklgxeCAW-KbG15LpfHcIsHNZNTxuPwW6jBtw_pPkY6w

"Rifle wielding"

Shame on You, Son
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: BB on August 04, 2019, 08:07:24 PM
Pointing out how small a percentage is is not a good argument.

AIDS kills more or less the same amount of people a year in the U.S. Should we stop caring about AIDS given how small the percentage is?


No, but it does illustrate that it isn't as big a problem for the general population as it is made out to be. Suicides will happen regardless. Accidents are unfortunate, but about 500 fatal accidents amongst a gun owning population of 145-150 million is nothing.

Now the 14,600 or so real murders that are left over is an interesting number. An educated guess is probably 40% + of the rest were involved in street life or crime (mostly drug or gang activity) that directly contributed to their death.

For instance, this guy was a drug dealer that killed 2 different girls, but when he got killed a few years later, he was worthy of a memorial as a victim of gun violence - http://gunmemorial.org/2019/01/07/jerodd-watkins . These sad murder stories are filled with similar when you really start to dig.

Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: Master Blaster on August 04, 2019, 08:28:10 PM
Gonna move to a desert island and fish all day.  8)
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: el numero uno on August 04, 2019, 08:43:01 PM
No, but it does illustrate that it isn't as big a problem for the general population as it is made out to be. Suicides will happen regardless. Accidents are unfortunate, but about 500 fatal accidents amongst a gun owning population of 145-150 million is nothing.

Now the 14,600 or so real murders that are left over is an interesting number. An educated guess is probably 40% + of the rest were involved in street life or crime (mostly drug or gang activity) that directly contributed to their death.

For instance, this guy was a drug dealer that killed 2 different girls, but when he got killed a few years later, he was worthy of a memorial as a victim of gun violence - http://gunmemorial.org/2019/01/07/jerodd-watkins . These sad murder stories are filled with similar when you really start to dig.



Again, the percentage/rate of people dying is irrelevant. What's important here is in absolute terms, not relative terms.

3000 people died at 9/11. Just a tiny fraction of the U.S. population (0.001%). Should we care about the % or about how many people actually died?
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: BB on August 04, 2019, 09:01:40 PM
Again, the percentage/rate of people dying is irrelevant. What's important here is in absolute terms, not relative terms.

3000 people died at 9/11. Just a tiny fraction of the U.S. population (0.001%). Should we care about the % or about how many people actually died?


Should we care? Sure. But I don't think the % is enough to start limiting rights. Nor do I think it will have an effect on anything. There's 400,000,000+ firearms in the US, the horse is out of the barn. And any further regulation will just lead to a black market or a change in methods.


Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: sarcafago on August 04, 2019, 09:09:19 PM
Should we stop caring about AIDS given how small the percentage is?

Yes.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: SuperTed on August 05, 2019, 02:36:43 AM
On social media, the suspect’s biography started to emerge. On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.”

Anyone who puts their gender pronouns on their twitter bio is mentally ill.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: Humble Narcissist on August 05, 2019, 02:38:41 AM
Should we care? Sure. But I don't think the % is enough to start limiting rights. Nor do I think it will have an effect on anything. There's 400,000,000+ firearms in the US, the horse is out of the barn. And any further regulation will just lead to a black market or a change in methods.



Yes, and just like during prohibition that black market would make organized criminal organizations grow exponentially.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 05, 2019, 03:29:14 AM
Yes, and just like during prohibition that black market would make organized criminal organizations grow exponentially.

This is what people don’t get. There are side effects to regulations that are usually worse than the disease.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: bigkid on August 05, 2019, 06:04:32 AM
8)
And out of the 14k, how many are gang or drug related?  How many are actually just innocent people that are in the wrong place at the wrong time?  I'm sure that number is way way lower.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: SF1900 on August 05, 2019, 06:15:20 AM
And out of the 14k, how many are gang or drug related?  How many are actually just innocent people that are in the wrong place at the wrong time?  I'm sure that number is way way lower.

I just did a little research and Northeastern University pretty much considers any incident with a certain number of deaths to be a mass shooting. They even consider domestic dispute/family killings to be mass shootings.

"Four mass shootings happened in public places so far this year, compared with 10 in 2018 and seven in 2017. But 2019 saw a big increase in the number of mass killings in domestic disputes, helping to keep this year’s overall numbers similar to past years. There have been 10 family mass killings this year; there were 10 during all of 2017."

If you take out domestic violence, gang and drug related deaths (as you said), the number substantially drops. Interestingly enough, Stanford  Mass Shootings of America (MSA) data project considers mass shootings to be "The definition of mass shooting used for the Stanford database is 3 or more shooting victims (not necessarily fatalities), not including the shooter. The shooting must not be identifiably gang, drug, or organized crime related." In that sense, Stanford would still identify a family mass shooting (domestic dispute) as a mass killing.

Clearly, there is no one definition, but it seems disingenuous to subsume mass shootings under organized crime or gang related activity. I mean, it's clear that 10 mobsters killing each other over territory is much different than some random person walking into a public place and killing random people.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: BB on August 05, 2019, 06:20:30 AM
Here's something interesting from Mother Jones magazine of all places -

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data/ .

It removes drug and gang shootings from the equation, and you are left with about 8 random mass killings for 2019 to date. Also it's starting to cut across racial lines more and more rather than being a strictly white thing.
Title: Re: More mass shootings than days in the year
Post by: Pray_4_War on August 05, 2019, 01:54:53 PM
This is what people don’t get. There are side effects to regulations that are usually worse than the disease.

Unintended consequences.  I'm not sure when most Americans decided that the government could solve all their problems but they are very wrong.
Title: Re: Dayton Ohio Mass shooting 08-04-19: 9 killed, 27 injured — Ohio
Post by: Joe Valentino on August 05, 2019, 02:00:26 PM
Dumb fuck dosent even know what he says anymore.

#Toledo up your butthole, Asswipe