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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: TK on August 14, 2019, 01:00:50 PM
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Nuff said
The Rock will Take Over the IFBB in 2020
The Rock will have his own IFBB show in 2020... AND it will pay more than the Olympia
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On top of that, he’s a natural Lifter.
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On top of that, he’s a natural Lifter.
And a top MMA cage fighter, legendary actor and world class gentleman.
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Won't unseat the Olympia as the top show in terms of prestige (well as much prestige as a bb show can have), but this might challenge the Arnold Classic as the #2 show.
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I bet it will be arranged so that it will not 'outprestiege' the Olympia and that the qualified IFBB pros can enter both.
If this is true ..... the Rock will be prpmoting an IFBB Pro Contest but not taking-over the IFBB.
I assume that Mr. Manion and Mr. Pecker see an advantage for the IFBB by associating with the Rock.
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Another interesting thing is if the WWF will come in on it with him. We know Vince Mcmahon has an interest in bodybuilding, and some of the talent comes from BB/PL/Strongman backgrounds, so a crossover seems natural. But one wonders if Vince might leave it alone because of the rampant drug use, and all of the flack wrestling already gets on that subject.
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Instead of winning the Mr Olympia title I rather win the Mr Rock title
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Kai will compete in it for sure.
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Wasn’t the Mr Univers at one time more prestigious than the Olympia?
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Wasn’t the Mr Univers at one time more prestigious than the Olympia?
Mr. Getbig was.
Then achilles won and it went to shit.
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Wasn’t the Mr Univers at one time more prestigious than the Olympia?
Nabba Mr.Universe Bermuda Sport Shorts is now the top title ;)
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Phil Heath's comeback show.
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Horrible actor. Can't remember the last time I watched one of his movies.
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I have not seen any official announcement on any of this.
But - as for the talk of the Rock Games, this has been discussed for a while, it was slated to come to Anaheim in 2020 at the Anaheim Convention Center, a mixture of bodybuilding, powerlifting, and many other events, basically like the Fit Expo is doing in Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Diego, etc...
For the Rock, it would be good to partner up with these guys to build it up more... and with the NPC and IFBB too for their respective contests.
The Rock Games - 15 events including IFBB contest, NPC contest, Powerlifting, Dogeball, Karate and so much more... but where to hold this so it does nt conflict with others, or just partner up...
As for the prize money, no... nothing like toe Olympia or Arnold....
I can help, of course.... as long as I get an autograph and picture :)
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this new show sponsored by Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson (which will supposedly have more prize money than the Mr. O)...we already know from Kai Greene's coach George Farah that Kai plans on doing this show... Rhoden has been training for "the big show" (his words) knowing full well it won't be the Olympia (a contest he is banned from competing in)... Phil, also, is clearly gearing up for a show sometime soon, as he is looking bigger than ever...bodybuilding has a new, more mainstream (thanks to the Rock and his corporate sponsors (including Ford and Under Armour), Superbowl-like event.
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Sounds awesome. The Olympia was getting stale anyways...
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Sounds promising but it will never be mainstream it will be another bust just like the WWE football ....
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Sounds promising but it will never be mainstream it will be another bust just like the WWE football ....
. I don't know, our country is becoming more superficial in many ways, and as that happens, the more people begin to objectify the human body, the more likely bodybuilding will garner attention not just from bodybuilders who love the sport but also from the average Jane Smith who is being told to view the human body as an object for her pleasure. It's one reason why Dwayne the Rock Johnson has become as successful aa he has. And he is probably the perfect guy to help make bodybuilding more mainstream for that reason.
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. I don't know, our country is becoming more superficial in many ways, and as that happens, the more people begin to objectify the human body, the more likely bodybuilding will garner attention not just from bodybuilders who love the sport but also from the average Jane Smith who is being told to view the human body as an object for her pleasure. It's one reason why Dwayne the Rock Johnson has become as successful aa he has. And he is probably the perfect guy to help make bodybuilding more mainstream for that reason.
About 13 seconds in.
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BOMZ, I could be totally incorrect here, but the following is what I THINK I recall about IFBB prize money!
Here are some thoughts thinking about this subect.
When the ARNOLD event first came into play, I THINK it was decided by those who make important decisions within the IFBB ..... that the ARNOLD prize money had to be less than the Olympia prize money .... in order to NOT lessen the Oly prestiege which was, and still is to this day, considered to be the ULTIMATE event within IFBB competitions.
Things may have made considerable changes since them good old days, but it would surprise me if The Rock was to enter the IFBB world today and offer a larger award than the Olympia, or even the ARNOLD, as it would appear that the Oly and the ARNOLD would lose some of the event prestiege that the pioneers (such as Weider and a handful of others) have established throughout the years.
On the other hand .... an IFBB association with the ROCK and his plan to enhance he prize money may be a pretty enhancing gift for the IFBB even though some prestiege is lost on befalf of the Oly and the Arnold.
I don't know how Arnold feels about this new kid on the bodybuilding block
but I'd bet ya a dollar to a doughnut that it was discussed in detail.
As we might know, if a bodybuilding pro decides to only enter one contest each year, it's likely that he will only enter that IFBB event which offers the biggest award.
If this is true, it will have an adverse effect on the other two.
So it would seem likely that the IFBB will establish some interesting qualifying standards before this ROCK event comes iinto play which will satisfy the OLYMPIA peeps as well as Arnold himself.
More deep thoughts .. but I'm THUNK-OUT!
PS... Good seeing your new lifestyle and training habits!
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The Rock's show is still under the auspices of the IFBB, so Rhoden still needs the IFBB to clear him. Kai and Heath should have no problems.
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Nuff said
The Rock will Take Over the IFBB in 2020
The Rock will have his own IFBB show in 2020... AND it will pay more than the Olympia
1 bb show is NOT take over the IFBB ::)
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Here is the IFBB Professional League's response to the rumors that was put out there regarding this new contest...
IFBB Professional League President Jim Manion Sets the Record Straight on Olympia Rumors
The bodybuilding rumor mill is always a source of entertainment for the social media crowd. Stories surface everyday giving bloggers plenty to talk about as they attempt to gain clicks and views. In the last few days rumors started to gain momentum about the IFBB Professional League and its long-standing relationship with Joe Weider’s Olympia Weekend. NPCNEWSONLINE caught up with IFBB Professional League President Jim Manion to set the record straight on some of the stories.
NPCNEWS: Jim, is there any truth to a recent rumor about the IFBB Professional League’s commitment to the Olympia?
MANION: The Olympia will always be the most prestigious and most important event in our sport. It’s the super bowl of bodybuilding and there are no plans to change that. There is no title that means more than the Olympia and we are always working to expand the Olympia in every way possible.
NPCNEWS: We’ve heard stories speculating about the IFBB Professional League’s relationship with AMI, the company that owns the Olympia. Any truth to those rumors?
MANION: Absolutely no truth whatsoever. Our relationship with AMI is stronger than its ever been and I’ve been extremely impressed by the way this year’s Olympia plans are coming together. The 2019 Olympia Weekend will be big. New events, great sponsorships, big prize money, and plans are already in full force for the 2020 Olympia and beyond.
NPCNEWS: But what about stories that another event is in the works that could challenge the Olympia’s status as the #1 event in the world. Any truth to that?
MANION: Let’s be clear about one thing. The IFBB Professional League is growing fast and we never stop working to create opportunities for our athletes. We are always working to bring new promoters and more fans into the sport in order to keep up with our growth. The arrival of any new contest has no impact on the Olympia’s status as the world’s premier event. The Olympia is and will continue to be our most prestigious event and most coveted title. It’s been that way for 55 years and it will remain that way
http://npcnewsonline.com/ifbb-professional-league-president-jim-manion-sets-the-record-straight-on-olympia-rumors/550158/
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Here is the IFBB Professional League's response to the rumors that was put out there regarding this new contest...
IFBB Professional League President Jim Manion Sets the Record Straight on Olympia Rumors
The bodybuilding rumor mill is always a source of entertainment for the social media crowd. Stories surface everyday giving bloggers plenty to talk about as they attempt to gain clicks and views. In the last few days rumors started to gain momentum about the IFBB Professional League and its long-standing relationship with Joe Weider’s Olympia Weekend. NPCNEWSONLINE caught up with IFBB Professional League President Jim Manion to set the record straight on some of the stories.
NPCNEWS: Jim, is there any truth to a recent rumor about the IFBB Professional League’s commitment to the Olympia?
MANION: The Olympia will always be the most prestigious and most important event in our sport. It’s the super bowl of bodybuilding and there are no plans to change that. There is no title that means more than the Olympia and we are always working to expand the Olympia in every way possible.
NPCNEWS: We’ve heard stories speculating about the IFBB Professional League’s relationship with AMI, the company that owns the Olympia. Any truth to those rumors?
MANION: Absolutely no truth whatsoever. Our relationship with AMI is stronger than its ever been and I’ve been extremely impressed by the way this year’s Olympia plans are coming together. The 2019 Olympia Weekend will be big. New events, great sponsorships, big prize money, and plans are already in full force for the 2020 Olympia and beyond.
NPCNEWS: But what about stories that another event is in the works that could challenge the Olympia’s status as the #1 event in the world. Any truth to that?
MANION: Let’s be clear about one thing. The IFBB Professional League is growing fast and we never stop working to create opportunities for our athletes. We are always working to bring new promoters and more fans into the sport in order to keep up with our growth. The arrival of any new contest has no impact on the Olympia’s status as the world’s premier event. The Olympia is and will continue to be our most prestigious event and most coveted title. It’s been that way for 55 years and it will remain that way
http://npcnewsonline.com/ifbb-professional-league-president-jim-manion-sets-the-record-straight-on-olympia-rumors/550158/
Yeah and the NY Giants claimed all the rumors aboht trading OBJ were false, right up until they traded him. 😁 Anyway, even if Manion isn't trying to hide anything, he doesn't have the power to stop this new show from becoming the new Superbowl of BBing. If the top guys compete in it and not the Olympia, then ipso facto its the top show. Maybe the IFBB tries to forbid the show. Well the Rock can just make it a non-IFBB event (and the top guys will still show up if the money and the marketing potential is greater for them there with The Rock, Ford, and Under Armour than it is in the IFBB). Manion has virtually zero leverage. It's a whole new world with social media as the most profitable platform for bodybuilders, no one really needs the IFBB or their sponsors, and if The Rock is able to do what he plans on doing, the IFBB can't stop him. With Kai already committed to the new show, and Phil and Rhoden likely participants too, the transition is already in progress.
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BOMZ, I think that you are totally incorrect about Jim Manion's leverage/control, within the IFBB, but it would interesting if you were correct and if Dwayne decided to make it a non-ifbb event.
I believe that JIM, and Jim alone, is in complete and total control and will remain so until he retires ...... unless, for some unknown reason, he had serious problems with Mr. Pecker who owns the IFBB .
And it is Jim's present intent to maintain the Olympia as the ultimate event within the IFBB family and I am sure that this has been discussed with the Rock in detail ... and that necessary arrangements have been made and agreed to.
I am unaware if any bodybuilding event or sanctioning body will ever offer a million dollar prize, but if that does occur, it will be damn interesing to watch the outcome and see how it affects the present day situation.
I'll end this by simply saying, "Don't under-estimate Jim's power within the IFBB!" ... and the Rock's power as today's top action movie star!
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Vince Mcmahon tried this with WBF and paid a lot more prize money and brought major sponsors and high production value. We saw how that turned out. Nothing will replace the Olympia. Nothing.
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Here's my honest/humble opinion and I know I am going heavily against the grain here..
I think the IFBB Mr. Olympia is outdated and boring. Today, people want better production value and a lot more for their money. The days of overly drugged up guys on stage dancing to sensual music while douched in baby oil to then be solely judged by a panel of older men is slowly falling to the wayside. Mainstream isn't attracted to that shit and if it's not, there goes the largest stream of revenue. The niche market that the Mr. Olympia caters to just isn't big enough. Throughout the country, you very rarely see the old school bodybuilders at every local gym with the 2-gallon water jug and the incessant need to pose in front of every mirror. Mainstream doesn't like it because it quite frankly doesn't look good on magazine covers, instead it conveys the message that with enough hormones pumped into your system and a little bit of weight lifting, you too can look like a pharmaceutical experiment. Frankly, I hear less and less men at the gyms wanting to look like a Shawn Rhodden or Ramy, because women don't like that look, guys like Ryan Reynolds are more along the lines of what women like. The only people that find these mass monsters attractive are unfortunately other straight guys and to a lesser extent (surprise surprise) gay men. I know some of you will argue that the Rock is pretty massive compared to Reynolds and women like him a lot. Yes, but he is also a pretty good looking face (nice facial features), a shitload of charisma and swag, plus most importantly money and a lot of it. Whereas most IFBB pros have as much charisma as a dirty doorknob.
I think it's time the IFBB bring in new and more exciting blood to help them sail into the next decade. Because if not, I also see the Mr. Olympia going the same direction as the Ms. Olympia contest. People want a true picture of health and sexuality when they see these "athletes". The biggest I think they should have ever been allowed to get was the size of IFBB pros back in the early 70's. Today, these guys frankly look hideous.
If this is a true venture, I see nothing less than the Rock's show being the best show. That guy is insanely talented and failure is not an option towards whatever he works at. He's mere star power (Hollywood + WWe) alone will bring millions of new fans. Plus, these are very different times than the 70's - 90's. People in general care less about the subculture the Olympia is based upon. It's just not as exciting as it once was based on the allure these IFBB pros had. There isn't an Arnold anymore and there clearly will never be another. Also, there was always a sense of wonder as to how these guys got so big, but today, we know too damn well how they are doing it, literally down to the dose of every substance they use. And if drug/dosing details weren't enough, you now realize more than ever that many of these pros are lazy as fuck and barely put any real hard work into their bodybuilding (I know a handful of top IFBB pros that are fucking slackers, eat junk throughout most of the year and only put in real hard work + diet during the last 1-2 months). Many rely so heavily on the drugs, that actual weightlifting and dieting takes a backseat due to what they already take.
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Hey, what's happen to Nabba AU 'Lee Priest' Classic' :P
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Here's my honest/humble opinion and I know I am going heavily against the grain here..
I think the IFBB Mr. Olympia is outdated and boring. Today, people want better production value and a lot more for their money. The days of overly drugged up guys on stage dancing to sensual music while douched in baby oil to then be solely judged by a panel of older men is slowly falling to the wayside. Mainstream isn't attracted to that shit and if it's not, there goes the largest stream of revenue. The niche market that the Mr. Olympia caters to just isn't big enough. Throughout the country, you very rarely see the old school bodybuilders at every local gym with the 2-gallon water jug and the incessant need to pose in front of every mirror. Mainstream doesn't like it because it quite frankly doesn't look good on magazine covers, instead it conveys the message that with enough hormones pumped into your system and a little bit of weight lifting, you too can look like a pharmaceutical experiment. Frankly, I hear less and less men at the gyms wanting to look like a Shawn Rhodden or Ramy, because women don't like that look, guys like Ryan Reynolds are more along the lines of what women like. The only people that find these mass monsters attractive are unfortunately other straight guys and to a lesser extent (surprise surprise) gay men. I know some of you will argue that the Rock is pretty massive compared to Reynolds and women like him a lot. Yes, but he is also a pretty good looking face (nice facial features), a shitload of charisma and swag, plus most importantly money and a lot of it. Whereas most IFBB pros have as much charisma as a dirty doorknob.
I think it's time the IFBB bring in new and more exciting blood to help them sail into the next decade. Because if not, I also see the Mr. Olympia going the same direction as the Ms. Olympia contest. People want a true picture of health and sexuality when they see these "athletes". The biggest I think they should have ever been allowed to get was the size of IFBB pros back in the early 70's. Today, these guys frankly look hideous.
If this is a true venture, I see nothing less than the Rock's show being the best show. That guy is insanely talented and failure is not an option towards whatever he works at. He's mere star power (Hollywood + WWe) alone will bring millions of new fans. Plus, these are very different times than the 70's - 90's. People in general care less about the subculture the Olympia is based upon. It's just not as exciting as it once was based on the allure these IFBB pros had. There isn't an Arnold anymore and there clearly will never be another. Also, there was always a sense of wonder as to how these guys got so big, but today, we know too damn well how they are doing it, literally down to the dose of every substance they use. And if drug/dosing details weren't enough, you now realize more than ever that many of these pros are lazy as fuck and barely put any real hard work into their bodybuilding (I know a handful of top IFBB pros that are fucking slackers, eat junk throughout most of the year and only put in real hard work + diet during the last 1-2 months). Many rely so heavily on the drugs, that actual weightlifting and dieting takes a backseat due to what they already take.
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No offense OMR but its already been established on this very site that bodybuilding comes down to training and diet. Drugs are used but they arent as important as the hard work and dedication.
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Just be careful when you try to take bodybuilding mainstream. Or you can get this onstage. This is IN competition WBF, not guest posing.
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No offense OMR but its already been established on this very site that bodybuilding comes down to training and diet. Drugs are used but they arent as important as the hard work and dedication.
Haha that's a good one brother.
My view, for what it's worth, is that professional bodybuilding comes down to:
Drugs (40%) + Genetics (30%) + Exercise (10%) + Diet (20%)
Levrone is a great example. For decades he worked out the last 1-2 months before a show and practically would overdose on the drugs, but with his great genetics and great receptors for steroids, he would come in and crush the guys that would live in the gym (Branch Warren types with great dedication but terrible genetics).
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Haha that's a good one brother.
My view, for what it's worth, is that professional bodybuilding comes down to:
Drugs (40%) + Genetics (30%) + Exercise (10%) + Diet (20%)
Levrone is a great example. For decades he worked out the last 1-2 months before a show and practically would overdose on the drugs, but with his great genetics and great receptors for steroids, he would come in and crush the guys that would live in the gym (Branch Warren types with great dedication but terrible genetics).
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Gironda: Food is 80% , training = 20% :)
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BOMZ, I think that you are totally incorrect about Jim Manion's leverage/control, within the IFBB, but it would interesting if you were correct and if Dwayne decided to make it a non-ifbb event.
I believe that JIM, and Jim alone, is in complete and total control and will remain so until he retires ...... unless, for some unknown reason, he had serious problems with Mr. Pecker who owns the IFBB .
And it is Jim's present intent to maintain the Olympia as the ultimate event within the IFBB family and I am sure that this has been discussed with the Rock in detail ... and that necessary arrangements have been made and agreed to.
I am unaware if any bodybuilding event or sanctioning body will ever offer a million dollar prize, but if that does occur, it will be damn interesing to watch the outcome and see how it affects the present day situation.
I'll end this by simply saying, "Don't under-estimate Jim's power within the IFBB!" ... and the Rock's power as today's top action movie star!
He might have leverage in the IFBB - I'm sure he has virtually ALL the leverage there - but he can't exercise any of that over a show the top guys are going to compete in whether it's IFBB or not. He can either let them have what they want or see the IFBB become a second rate league as the top guys and the top contest exist outside its borders.
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Haha that's a good one brother.
My view, for what it's worth, is that professional bodybuilding comes down to:
Drugs (40%) + Genetics (30%) + Exercise (10%) + Diet (20%)
Levrone is a great example. For decades he worked out the last 1-2 months before a show and practically would overdose on the drugs, but with his great genetics and great receptors for steroids, he would come in and crush the guys that would live in the gym (Branch Warren types with great dedication but terrible genetics).
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It’s mathematically incorrect. A BB equation should involve multyplying as well. We should develop it here and make it universal. We have some nerds on this forum.
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Haha that's a good one brother.
My view, for what it's worth, is that professional bodybuilding comes down to:
Drugs (40%) + Genetics (30%) + Exercise (10%) + Diet (20%)
Levrone is a great example. For decades he worked out the last 1-2 months before a show and practically would overdose on the drugs, but with his great genetics and great receptors for steroids, he would come in and crush the guys that would live in the gym (Branch Warren types with great dedication but terrible genetics).
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Genetic are more important than drugs. Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing. Here is a better breakdown:
Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5%
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Horrible actor. Can't remember the last time I watched one of his movies.
He's played out and overexposed.
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He's played out and overexposed.
I never liked him in the first place. Too much drama and a tough guy wannabe
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Genetic are more important than drugs. Without the right genetics, drugs mean nothing. Here is a better breakdown:
Genetics: 55%
Drugs: 40%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5%
I disagree. Genetics can certainly be the factor that allows you to win bodybuilding contests, once all else evens out amongst competitors (diet, drugs, water cutting, routind etc), but to say that without genetics drugs mean nothing is a stretch.
For instance, I know of two IFBB pros that never had genetics for good calves and they simply got implants. I know other guys that had shit for shoulders and they did the same coupled with the use of esiclene. There are tons of guys that make it very far in professional bodybuilding and clearly do not have the genes to justify going through the entire ordeal.
Phil has narrow clavicles and a small chest, but that never stopped him from winning the Mr. Olympia. Receptor affinity towards hormones might be more important than just genetics that dictate propensity to carry muscle throughout the body. Today, we can get implants for pecs, abs, delts, calves and penis.
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BOMZ, No disrespect intended here but it's apparent (to me at least) that you have no idea how today's IFBB operates .... but I will admit that you may have a better idea of how it may be operating in the distant future .... but only if major changes within the IFBB do occur.
BUT the Rock's involvement will in no way be a major change as he will abide by the rules and regulations as well as any mutual agreement between himself and the IFBB.
In other words .... and to be more blunt ... the Rock will be working for and with Jim Manion.
And if the Rock ever does decide to promote his own bodybuilding contest without an IFBB sanction, it would most likely follow the demise of the bodybuilding federation that was set up by that wrestling federation feller.
But if I'm wrong .... It will be interesting to watch what happens.
I'm going to try to send you a PM regarding my thoughts on what is really going to occur . I would add those 'thoughts' here, but it would be too damn long.
So "Stand by to stand by!"
In other words, "Hurry up ... and wait!"
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The Rock promised that the 2017 Olympia would be on CBS. The end result was a 15-minute YouTube video on his Seven Bucks Production channel.
NBC Sports Network was scheduled to show two 90-minute documentary-style programs on the 2014 Olympia in Oct. 2014 with the dates and times posted. The end result was both being shelved for with no explanation.
Believe this shit when you see it.
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The Rock promised that the 2017 Olympia would be on CBS. The end result was a 15-minute YouTube video on his Seven Bucks Production channel.
NBC Sports Network was scheduled to show two 90-minute documentary-style programs on the 2014 Olympia in Oct. 2014 with the dates and times posted. The end result was both being shelved for with no explanation.
Believe this shit when you see it.
The mainstream can't handle when a ballplayer gets caught for PEDs.
How are they going to handle a contest mostly predicated on drug use, sweet potatoes, and buttsex?
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A new contest or event in October next year called Athleticon in Atlanta on October 9-11, 202
Looks like the NPC and IFBB might have a contest in this event