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Look at many young IFBB Pro's and they all look 10-20 years older than they actually are.
Age here: about 25
(https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21013882_1624769274254561_6976039118747421556_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQl9tBnh9QHvHISiCXq3vz4_q9XIeYVqzrf0c9t2K0uTJk1OprbsvZM2SGvxemv0ecA&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-2.fna&oh=e5e788888519ad37c5a5c2bdd433d07f&oe=5E125989)
Age here: about 25
(https://cdn2-thevladarcompany.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Dallas-McCarver-Autopsy.jpeg)
Trey Brewer when he was like 20-21
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/EVO-PT/pic2-16.jpg)
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I would think that first off, it's the MASSIVE quantity these butt-monkees take followed by the quality of the junque.
They look like shit in the face and their skin is hideous. They don't die primarily from the drug use, its because they're terminally stupid.
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lol, these guys take minimal amount of drugs.
They age quicker due to poor diet. Nothing to do with drugs.
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Good question. I think all the tanning that these guys do contributes as well.
People using finasteride have reported that they get much fewer fine lines/wrinkles in their face compared to other people their age, and I've noticed the same thing. It's possible that DHT and other androgens have some effect on collagen
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lol, these guys take minimal amount of drugs.
They age quicker due to poor diet. Nothing to do with drugs.
This.
Also, using very good form when exercising would probably knock ten years off their face
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Men live shorter lives than women. They age quicker. Now you have bodybuilders taking 20 times the amount of androgens that their balls produce. I wonder about the acceleration of the enlargement of their prostate too.
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This.
Also, using very good form when exercising would probably knock ten years off their face
This is very true.
Compare Branch Warren (poor and sloppy form) to Phil Heath (complete range of motion, lots of machines).
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Men live shorter lives than women. They age quicker. Now you have bodybuilders taking 20 times the amount of androgens that their balls produce. I wonder about the acceleration of the enlargement of their prostate too.
That's largely due to men leading riskier and more unhealthy lifestyles
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That's largely due to men leading riskier and more unhealthy lifestyles
True. Men on the whole do riskier things in life. Drive cars fast, ride motorcycles, go hunting, contact sports, etc.
This lowers overall life expectancy. Some kid kills himself in a car accident at 17 for example affects overall life expectancy.
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True. Men on the whole do riskier things in life. Drive cars fast, ride motorcycles, go hunting, contact sports, etc.
This lowers overall life expectancy. Some kid kills himself in a car accident at 17 for example affects overall life expectancy.
Some man living to 107 also affects overall life expectancy.
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I would think that first off, it's the MASSIVE quantity these butt-monkees take followed by the quality of the junque.
They look like shit in the face and their skin is hideous. They don't die primarily from the drug use, its because they're terminally stupid.
HAHAHAHAHAHA "Their skin is hideous". I wonder hows your 65 year old skin is nowadays, Pops?
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Some man living to 107 also affects overall life expectancy.
Yes, but the guy would live to 107 anyway while the kid wouldn't die at 17 if he wasn't driving the car way too fast, taking extreme risks.
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Fuck that Dallas’ face is fucking horrible, can’t help but think of DP’s awesome “face of a proud lesbian” comment every time I see it
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most of the guys in the 90's didn't look older, except for dorian because his face got really gaunt when in shape and nasser because he was balding
i don't think dorian looks much older now compared to how he looked 25 years ago
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Yes, but the guy would live to 107 anyway while the kid wouldn't die at 17 if he wasn't driving the car way too fast, taking extreme risks.
Hmmm I disagree.
They still both affect the life expectancy.
What if the 17 year old died crossing the street, legally, because the 107 year old hit him because he didnt see the stop sign.
I understand your premise but your logic is flawed.
The 107 year was once 17 but the 17 year old will never be 107. It is much rarer to live to 107 than 17.
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The more you eat the FASTER your entire body ages
https://www.guy-daily-fasting-times-improve-health-and-longevity-mice
do you want to be big and ripped or live a long time?
Can't have both
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Lots of food, especially carbs + high doses of insulin and tren play a huge part
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Fasting to slow down aging:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/amp/323039
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That's largely due to men leading riskier and more unhealthy lifestyles
Nope, the life expectancy isn't due to accidental death.
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Hmmm I disagree.
They still both affect the life expectancy.
What if the 17 year old died crossing the street, legally, because the 107 year old hit him because he didnt see the stop sign.
I understand your premise but your logic is flawed.
The 107 year was once 17 but the 17 year old will never be 107. It is much rarer to live to 107 than 17.
The life insurance business actuaries calculate mortality rates. Men have lower life expectancies because of leading riskier lifestyles.
I agree it is exceedingly rare for a man to reach 107. So rare that it is not relevant to this discussion. It is however, not rare for a teenage male to kill himself doing a high risk activity. It happens all the time and with not just one fatality but multiple fatalities in one accident. Men also have risky jobs such as logging, construction, mining, oil exploration, combat armed forces service, etc. Women rarely participate in such professions. Men smoke more and drink more also which are higher risk activities. Men as a whole do more bad things than women.
So, while most people look at reports of life expectancy for men and women and think it is about health, it is about much more than health issues. It is also about lifestyle issues.
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Spending a lot of time in the sun really ages your skin.
If you live in a sunny location like Cali or Florida it can really affect how you look.
If you spend your summers suntanning anywhere or working outside in the sun it will age you badly.
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Spending a lot of time in the sun really ages your skin.
If you live in a sunny location like Cali or Florida it can really affect how you look.
If you spend your summers suntanning anywhere or working outside in the sun it will age you badly.
This is true. I try to remember to apply sunscreen when I go out.
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Good question. I think all the tanning that these guys do contributes as well.
People using finasteride have reported that they get much fewer fine lines/wrinkles in their face compared to other people their age, and I've noticed the same thing. It's possible that DHT and other androgens have some effect on collagen
I thought they mostly spray or paint tan.
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Men live shorter lives than women. They age quicker. Now you have bodybuilders taking 20 times the amount of androgens that their balls produce. I wonder about the acceleration of the enlargement of their prostate too.
I disagree. Women age faster than men. Of course there are always going to be exceptions. Without doubt mass doses of steroids has an effect on how one looks including facially.
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Some guys who were heavy steroid users look good. Everyone ages differently.
Being heavy often makes you look older in the face.
Not sure if there is any definite conclusions about this.
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test will lower your subcutaneous fat to a higher degree. Especially in the face, which makes you look older.
Add to that they tan alot...
(https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/articles/10003012/original/The-Death-of-Womens-Bodybuilding.jpg?1438804930)
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test will lower your subcutaneous fat to a higher degree. Especially in the face, which makes you look older.
Add to that they tan alot...
(https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/articles/10003012/original/The-Death-of-Womens-Bodybuilding.jpg?1438804930)
Schmoe Harree Surley
The 3Spooges®
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The life insurance business actuaries calculate mortality rates. Men have lower life expectancies because of leading riskier lifestyles.
I agree it is exceedingly rare for a man to reach 107. So rare that it is not relevant to this discussion. It is however, not rare for a teenage male to kill himself doing a high risk activity. It happens all the time and with not just one fatality but multiple fatalities in one accident. Men also have risky jobs such as logging, construction, mining, oil exploration, combat armed forces service, etc. Women rarely participate in such professions. Men smoke more and drink more also which are higher risk activities. Men as a whole do more bad things than women.
So, while most people look at reports of life expectancy for men and women and think it is about health, it is about much more than health issues. It is also about lifestyle issues.
When you refer to men and life expectancy are referring to how the insurance companies calculate the risks on adults over the age of 25 and the breakdown of their education levels?
Because a 17 year old would likely still be high school as such his death would be used in a different metric than what would be considered an "adult man". Because in that case a 107 year old man would be more relevant than a 17 year old teenager.
Nope, the life expectancy isn't due to accidental death.
But then OT1 says this.
So is he wrong?
Or are we all wrong because this thread was about steroid use aging faces?
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most of the guys in the 90's didn't look older, except for dorian because his face got really gaunt when in shape and nasser because he was balding
i don't think dorian looks much older now compared to how he looked 25 years ago
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When you refer to men and life expectancy are referring to how the insurance companies calculate the risks on adults over the age of 25 and the breakdown of their education levels?
Because a 17 year old would likely still be high school as such his death would be used in a different metric than what would be considered an "adult man". Because in that case a 107 year old man would be more relevant than a 17 year old teenager.
But then OT1 says this.
So is he wrong?
Or are we all wrong because this thread was about steroid use aging faces?
Life insurance actuarial tables normally end at age 100. Such a policy still in force would be a permanent insurance product (like whole life). At age 100 the policy "endows" and a check for the face value of the policy is paid out to the insured.
So a 107 year old man is no longer in the pool of insureds.
For a pool of insureds to be representative and relevant it needs to contain a wide range of participants of all ages. Those young are in better health than those older generally. Those who obtain a policy when they have health issue are rated (charged more or not insured at all) since they have too high a risk of dying. Health insurance works in a similar fashion.
Whether 17 or 47 it is the same insurance product. The cost of the insurance premium will be higher for the older person because he is likely to die sooner, thus a shorter period of time to accumulate the funds needed for payout.
Higher education levels, etc. resulting in lower premium would probably indicate an actuarial calculation which shows better healthcare than uneducated persons. Auto insurance companies often give discounts for students having higher GPA. Why? These kids must have statistically been shown to have fewer accidents.
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Life insurance actuarial tables normally end at age 100. Such a policy still in force would be a permanent insurance product (like whole life). At age 100 the policy "endows" and a check for the face value of the policy is paid out to the insured.
So a 107 year old man is no longer in the pool of insureds.
For a pool of insureds to be representative and relevant it needs to contain a wide range of participants of all ages. Those young are in better health than those older generally. Those who obtain a policy when they have health issue are rated (charged more or not insured at all) since they have too high a risk of dying. Health insurance works in a similar fashion.
Whether 17 or 47 it is the same insurance product. The cost of the insurance premium will be higher for the older person because he is likely to die sooner, thus a shorter period of time to accumulate the funds needed for payout.
Higher education levels, etc. resulting in lower premium would probably indicate an actuarial calculation which shows better healthcare than uneducated persons. Auto insurance companies often give discounts for students having higher GPA. Why? These kids must have statistically been shown to have fewer accidents.
How long have you worked in the life insurance industry ?
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he looks like a man in his 50's
25 years ago, he looked like a man in his 50's
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It's usually igf1 that ages your face. Tren ages your face as well, goes to show that it also increased igf1 as well. High androgen DHT derivatives also age your face it seams. Masteron, halo, drol, etc...
Why? Dunno..don't much care.
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permanent loss of brown fat storage. face (cheeks) and mid back are where it stores. a lot of the fat
burners like clen attack that fat. thats why the mid back is so lean on so many competitors, but also
the face gets drawn out, ,making people look tired and old.
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test will lower your subcutaneous fat to a higher degree. Especially in the face, which makes you look older.
Add to that they tan alot...
no collagen,no skin elasticity
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he looks like a man in his 50's
25 years ago, he looked like a man in his 50's
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Hahaha! That's a fair point, well made. 8)
TBH, I ♥ DY (nh),.. I was just being a tw4t by posting a still from that video because he still looks ever-so-slightly mashed from the ayahuasca experience... :)
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test will lower your subcutaneous fat to a higher degree. Especially in the face, which makes you look older.
Add to that they tan alot...
(https://www.t-nation.com/system/publishing/articles/10003012/original/The-Death-of-Womens-Bodybuilding.jpg?1438804930)
Best answer in the thread.I think it's partially this plus just being at such a low bodyfat with little water makes the face with little fat and water look older.The correct placement of fat pads on the face and amount of fat is crucial for looking younger, as we age fat pads slip downwards and atrophy, leading to the skin looking looser and less plump.if you look at the pics I quoted for example, the surface skin has the age of the 35yr old but the lack of fat and water underneath the skin makes it look like the 55yr old with the slipped and atrophied fat pads.
(https://grossepointedermatology.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/aging-02-big.jpg)
(https://www.changesplasticsurgery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Facial-Fat-.jpg)
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Look at many young IFBB Pro's and they all look 10-20 years older than they actually are.
Age here: about 25
(https://scontent.ftpa1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21013882_1624769274254561_6976039118747421556_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQl9tBnh9QHvHISiCXq3vz4_q9XIeYVqzrf0c9t2K0uTJk1OprbsvZM2SGvxemv0ecA&_nc_ht=scontent.ftpa1-2.fna&oh=e5e788888519ad37c5a5c2bdd433d07f&oe=5E125989)
Age here: about 25
(https://cdn2-thevladarcompany.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Dallas-McCarver-Autopsy.jpeg)
Trey Brewer when he was like 20-21
(http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll109/EVO-PT/pic2-16.jpg)
The dryness, lack of fat and moist on the skin, from drugs looks good from the neck down.
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How long have you worked in the life insurance industry ?
I worked in it about 20 years ago. Now I am retired.
You are right that we have veered way off topic.
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I worked in it about 20 years ago. Now I am retired.
You are right that we have veered way off topic.
Would it illigitimize my policy to nominate as the beneficiary of my life insurance anyone in the world who can eat their attached hand the fastest? Or just whoever wears double denim for the longest. Shit like that. Can I rely upon my insurer to help me fuck with people from beyond the grave?
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Would it illigitimize my policy to nominate as the beneficiary of my life insurance anyone in the world who can eat their attached hand the fastest? Or just whoever wears double denim for the longest. Shit like that. Can I rely upon my insurer to help me fuck with people from beyond the grave?
;D
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I'm not so sure that steroids age you.
This notion has been thrown a lot on this forum,and it has put me off trying testosterone.
Lots of them juicers still have childish faces despite using for years.
Some don't.
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I'm not so sure that steroids age you.
This notion has been thrown a lot on this forum,and it has put me off trying testosterone.
Lots of them juicers still have childish faces despite using for years.
Some don't.
Russ can you point to a few specific juicers with baby faces, besides that Russian guy? Also please provide their dosages and compare them to what was recorded in Dallas's autopsy.
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How would I know their dosages?
What are you saying,that massive dosages age you?
Off the top of my head.....
These people look right for respective ages.
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test will lower your subcutaneous fat to a higher degree. Especially in the face, which makes you look older.
I think this would be the right answer.
And it seems to be reversible.
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who was that bodybuilder that sevastase would always post pics of, he was completely jacked but had the face of a 12 year old?
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Some people just look older than they are Bodybuilders or not.
Though the big bloated high blood pressure look from to much
Test / aromatising to Oestrogen isn’t a great look for them.
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Genetics and then: sugar, total calories, sun, alcohol, cigarettes and stress.
There's still a lot of variance as there are people with atypical responses. My father was in the sun for all of his life and still had pretty soft and smooth skin at 70+.
It's all a gamble.
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Genetics and then: sugar, total calories, sun, alcohol, cigarettes and stress.
There's still a lot of variance as there are people with atypical responses. My father was in the sun for all of his life and still had pretty soft and smooth skin at 70+.
It's all a gamble.
Yep Pretty Much Correct.
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trey brewer seemed like he had so much potential circa those pics
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trey brewer seemed like he had so much potential circa those pics
Perhaps you mistook "potential" for "schmoetential"?
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lol, these guys take minimal amount of drugs.
They age quicker due to poor diet. Nothing to do with drugs.
Glad this is finally settled.
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trey brewer seemed like he had so much potential circa those pics
Anyone care to explain the phenomenal downfall of brewer. He was hyped more than Brandon curry, nek minnute, lard arse who lost his lines. Wtf, mindboggling
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Anyone care to explain the phenomenal downfall of brewer. He was hyped more than Brandon curry, nek minnute, lard arse who lost his lines. Wtf, mindboggling
"How Sumo bulking destroyed Trey Brewer"
https://generationiron.com/lost-potential-how-sumo-bulking-destroyed-trey-brewer/ (https://generationiron.com/lost-potential-how-sumo-bulking-destroyed-trey-brewer/)
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Wot about the wimmin..?
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Wot about the wimmin..?
If I may be so blunt, she still makes my dick hard.
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Wot about the wimmin..?
all day ;D
minus the terrible tats
how long is she? 40ish?
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Anyone care to explain the phenomenal downfall of brewer. He was hyped more than Brandon curry, nek minnute, lard arse who lost his lines. Wtf, mindboggling
I don't think his heart was in it. He was an offensive lineman in high school and by all accounts, really liked to eat. Probably enjoyed being a big guy more than suffering through a 16 week diet.
He is a fireman last I heard? Good decision by him to get out of the "sport" and get a decent career.
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If I may be so blunt, she still makes my dick hard.
all day ;D
minus the terrible tats
how long is she? 40ish?
I swear to God, when I posted that picture I knew you 2 would react LOL ;D
I'll throw you a bone... (sorry it's not YouTube, but it's a legit stage performance - no nudity)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x)
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I swear to God, when I posted that picture I knew you 2 would react LOL ;D
I'll throw you a bone... (sorry it's not YouTube, but it's a legit stage performance - no nudity)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x)
the last 2 chics ive dated have been top level figure competitors so i cannot help myself! I have schmoe tendencies. if you are schmoe it is easier if you compete as a good way meet girls who compete (same gym, same trainers, contest etc)
path of least resistance ;D ;D
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the last 2 chics ive dated have been top level figure competitors so i cannot help myself! I have schmoe tendencies. if you are schmoe it is easier if you compete as a good way meet girls who compete (same gym, same trainers, contest etc)
path of least resistance ;D ;D
Yep, just ask former pro and “judge” eryk bui, that guy is always dating a girl he just judged from a contest hahaha
Mid life crisis of peace ;D
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the last 2 chics ive dated have been top level figure competitors so i cannot help myself! I have schmoe tendencies. if you are schmoe it is easier if you compete as a good way meet girls who compete (same gym, same trainers, contest etc)
path of least resistance ;D ;D
become a judge at an ifbb show or find a connection to pharmacy grade var/hgh.
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become a judge at an ifbb show or find a connection to pharmacy grade var/hgh.
Yep
See my above post :D
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I swear to God, when I posted that picture I knew you 2 would react LOL ;D
I'll throw you a bone... (sorry it's not YouTube, but it's a legit stage performance - no nudity)
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x35010x)
All I can say is: thanks!
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become a judge at an ifbb show or find a connection to pharmacy grade var/hgh.
haha - those are 2 advanced level moves :o
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Dallas was one odd-looking fellow.
But thanks to his worthless heart and body ... ;D
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He is a fireman last I heard?
Well did you hear he was a fireman or did you not hear he was a fireman?
How do we know if him being a fireman was the last thing you heard?
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Dallas was one odd-looking fellow.
But thanks to his worthless heart and body ... ;D
Brutal ;) ;D
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:)
Not true. Look at me! I'm 24 and look exactly 24.