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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/david-hogg-suggests-compromise-on-gun-control
Gun control activist and mass shooting survivor David Hogg suggested that instead of outright banning AR-15-style rifles, a compromise can be made that would allow them to be regulated at the same level as machine guns.
CNN anchor Anderson Cooper said a mandatory buy back of "assault weapons," for which March For Our Lives came out in support Wednesday, will be used by gun owners to say that they were right to say Democrats want to take their guns away.
"Well, let’s think about it this way. These are weapons of war that never should have been on our streets in the first place. I can guarantee you that the framers of the Constitution never would imagine a weapon like the AR-15 being in the hands of an American citizen. They never would have imagined somebody going into a school," Hogg said.
"If this plan ends up in Congress, and they say a gun registry is a nonstarter or the assault weapons ban and mandatory gun buy back program are nonstarters, OK. Then maybe we start talking about reclassifying them and making sure you have the right permitting in place where you can still go and use them," Hogg continued. "But people aren’t going to have nearly as easy accessibility to them to go and commit mass shootings as they are currently."
Machine guns, which are capable of firing more than one bullet per trigger pull, and other types of weapons and accessories, such as short-barreled rifles and shotguns, along with suppressors, are classified as Class III items under the National Firearms Act and are regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
In order to obtain Class III items, purchasers are required to pay the ATF a $200 dollar transfer tax for weapons, and $5 for accessories. An additional form must be filled out, by which fingerprints and photos are submitted to the ATF and local law enforcement.
The average wait times for the forms to be approved by the ATF is a year.
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There should never be any compromise to constitutional rights..
Our laws are treasonous enough
Bench
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David Hogg is a fucking moron and Anderson Cooper is a piece of shit. Or vice/versa
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Two quick things.....
1. You can't "buy back" something you never owned in the first place, and if it's mandatory then it is a confiscation.
2. Which of our other God-given constitutionally protected rights should we start compromising?
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Two quick things.....
1. You can't "buy back" something you never owned in the first place, and if it's mandatory then it is a confiscation.
2. Which of our other God-given constitutionally protected rights should we start compromising?
Number 2 is a trick question...the 2nd amendment is the only thing allowing you to keep ANY of your rights
Bench
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Yeah....I probably won’t be taking advice from an 18 year old know-nothing snowflake today.
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Yeah....I probably won’t be taking advice from an 18 year old know-nothing snowflake today.
Unfortunately you are... because the fring vote is who the left panders to....and who their policies are for... therefore people like him influence every aspect of your life...the battle is lost
Bench
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I haven’t lost any of my rights since David Hogg self-anointed himself as the Country’s gun control guru
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I haven’t lost any of my rights since David Hogg self-anointed himself as the Country’s gun control guru
You have, and you don't even know it....
Bench
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Number 2 is a trick question...the 2nd amendment is the only thing allowing you to keep ANY of your rights
Bench
I firmly agree with this statement.
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Liberals are just so inconsistent. They hate cops and the military but want them to be the only ones who have access to guns.
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Toxic femininity runs in his blood.
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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/david-hogg-suggests-compromise-on-gun-control
Gun control activist and mass shooting survivor David Hogg suggested that instead of outright banning AR-15-style rifles, a compromise can be made that would allow them to be regulated at the same level as machine guns.
CNN anchor Anderson Cooper said a mandatory buy back of "assault weapons," for which March For Our Lives came out in support Wednesday, will be used by gun owners to say that they were right to say Democrats want to take their guns away.
"Well, let’s think about it this way. These are weapons of war that never should have been on our streets in the first place. I can guarantee you that the framers of the Constitution never would imagine a weapon like the AR-15 being in the hands of an American citizen. They never would have imagined somebody going into a school," Hogg said.
"If this plan ends up in Congress, and they say a gun registry is a nonstarter or the assault weapons ban and mandatory gun buy back program are nonstarters, OK. Then maybe we start talking about reclassifying them and making sure you have the right permitting in place where you can still go and use them," Hogg continued. "But people aren’t going to have nearly as easy accessibility to them to go and commit mass shootings as they are currently."
Machine guns, which are capable of firing more than one bullet per trigger pull, and other types of weapons and accessories, such as short-barreled rifles and shotguns, along with suppressors, are classified as Class III items under the National Firearms Act and are regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
In order to obtain Class III items, purchasers are required to pay the ATF a $200 dollar transfer tax for weapons, and $5 for accessories. An additional form must be filled out, by which fingerprints and photos are submitted to the ATF and local law enforcement.
The average wait times for the forms to be approved by the ATF is a year.
Gun control activist and mass shooting survivor David Hogg suggested that instead of outright banning AR-15-style rifles, a compromise can be made that would allow them to be regulated at the same level as machine guns.
First outright lie.
com·pro·mise
/ˈkämprəˌmīz/
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noun
1.
an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
"an ability to listen to two sides in a dispute, and devise a compromise acceptable to both"
synonyms: agreement, understanding, settlement, terms, accommodation; More
There is NO compromise. There is the law-abiding citizens getting punished for something an unhinged person was responsible for. We get nothing other than our rights trampled on.
CNN anchor Anderson Cooper said a mandatory buy back of "assault weapons," for which March For Our Lives came out in support Wednesday, will be used by gun owners to say that they were right to say Democrats want to take their guns away.
That's exactly what it is. Second outright lie. None of these rifles are " assault weapons " and mandatory buy backs are unconstitutional. And like Pray_4_War said, it's confiscation.
"Well, let’s think about it this way. These are weapons of war that never should have been on our streets in the first place. I can guarantee you that the framers of the Constitution never would imagine a weapon like the AR-15 being in the hands of an American citizen. They never would have imagined somebody going into a school," Hogg said.
Biggest outright lie. AR15s are NOT weapons of war. This is a leftist/Dem/Gungrabber lie repeated often enough they believe it. NO army in the world uses semi-automatic AR15s as their small arms. His opinion is foisted as fact. There have been many AR15s on ' our streets ' for decades and no mass shootings with them , this is a recent phenomenon. And just as he can assert , I can guarantee you that the framers of the Constitution would have been using the AR15 is the Revolutionary war took place in 1976 as opposed to 1776. Weapons were always kept in the homes back then and guess what? You didn't have a mass shooting problem like we do today. What's that tell us? It's not a gun problem.
"If this plan ends up in Congress, and they say a gun registry is a nonstarter or the assault weapons ban and mandatory gun buy back program are nonstarters, OK. Then maybe we start talking about reclassifying them and making sure you have the right permitting in place where you can still go and use them," Hogg continued. "But people aren’t going to have nearly as easy accessibility to them to go and commit mass shootings as they are currently."
Machine guns, which are capable of firing more than one bullet per trigger pull, and other types of weapons and accessories, such as short-barreled rifles and shotguns, along with suppressors, are classified as Class III items under the National Firearms Act and are regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
In order to obtain Class III items, purchasers are required to pay the ATF a $200 dollar transfer tax for weapons, and $5 for accessories. An additional form must be filled out, by which fingerprints and photos are submitted to the ATF and local law enforcement.
The average wait times for the forms to be approved by the ATF is a year.
It is a nonstarter. The assault weapons ban had it's chance and it failed. 10 years and it accomplished nothing and confiscation is a nonstarter. Most " mass shootings " are done with pistols NOT rifles. More people die each year from hands & feet than ALL rifles combined which the AR15 is a sub-set of rifles. He wants semi-auto rifles to be classified as NFA weapons and that's just absurd. And if people wanted to commit a mass shooting all you would be doing is delaying it for a while. and they could just get behind the wheel of a truck and kill 80+ people like the driver in Nice
The kid is a lying mouth piece for the left.
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1. You can't "buy back" something you never owned in the first place, and if it's mandatory then it is a confiscation.
This.
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First outright lie.
com·pro·mise
/ˈkämprəˌmīz/
Learn to pronounce
noun
1.
an agreement or a settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
"an ability to listen to two sides in a dispute, and devise a compromise acceptable to both"
synonyms: agreement, understanding, settlement, terms, accommodation; More
There is NO compromise. There is the law-abiding citizens getting punished for something an unhinged person was responsible for. We get nothing other than our rights trampled on.
Yeah, similar to walking down the street and getting mugged. The guy takes your wallet which might have 100 bucks in it and gives you back 20 as a compromise.
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When the second amendment was drafted, the founding fathers had just finished fighting a guerrilla war against an oppressive government that was bigger and more powerful than they were.
In order to fight a war like that, it's imperative that you have capable weapons. Anyone who says the founding fathers wouldn't have wanted us to have AR-15 rifles is full of shit.
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Yeah....I probably won’t be taking advice from an 18 year old know-nothing snowflake today.
No today, but in 10-15 years when his generation rules over us you will. I firmly believe that if there is another civil war, it won’t be because of race or political party, it’ll be over the 2nd Amendment.
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How many people have been killed in mass shooting in the US over the past 20 years? Maybe a thousand, if that? I understand that they are horrid when they happen, but the number of people killed isn't really even statistically relevant. Seems to me we should be focusing on the mental health system which is struggling big time. Nobody ever talks about it and mental health problems have destroyed many lives through a laundry list of ways in addition to guns. Serious question here, are we just pretending that mental health isn't the issue because as a society we don't want to acknowledge that different cultures and races just don't mix very well and everyone hates everyone? At some point shouldn't we just be honest with ourselves??
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No today, but in 10-15 years when his generation rules over us you will. I firmly believe that if there is another civil war, it won’t be because of race or political party, it’ll be over the 2nd Amendment.
A civil war over guns?
Gun owners will say you can take my gun over my dead body. Literally.
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No today, but in 10-15 years when his generation rules over us you will.
This. The Camera Hoggs and Trigglypuffs will be in charge in a few short years, and they're going to make AOC look moderate in comparison - pedophile rights, de facto discrimination against Whites, you name it.
Best arm yourselves while you still can.
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When the second amendment was drafted, the founding fathers had just finished fighting a guerrilla war against an oppressive government that was bigger and more powerful than they were.
In order to fight a war like that, it's imperative that you have capable weapons. Anyone who says the founding fathers wouldn't have wanted us to have AR-15 rifles is full of shit.
::) Oh brother
US ARMY vs Pray_4_War ;D
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(https://static1.disfrazzes.com/productos/fusil-de-asalto-ak-47-de-62-cm-66169.jpg)
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There are 310 million guns in the US...You could ban them today and there would still be guns available for 50 years. The only people without guns would be the law abiding people.
It's moronic to suggest gun control would make us safer.
Liberals don't have brains, they operate on emotion...
They want more laws passed just so they can "feel better"...
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Every time we “compromise” on gun control measures, actual law abiding owners get stiffed and the gun grabbers win. Responsible gun owners are the only ones who lose, it’s a slow death to our 2nd amendment rights.
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::) Oh brother
US ARMY vs Pray_4_War ;D
(https://media.defense.gov/2003/May/09/2000599458/780/780/0/020510-F-9999J-007.JPG)
(https://static1.disfrazzes.com/productos/fusil-de-asalto-ak-47-de-62-cm-66169.jpg)
Very simplistic/illogical example.
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I can think of no more comfortable feeling than being in a place I'm not sure of, being a little scared, feeling unsafe, and encountering an old man with a war veteran patch on his jacket, with his grandkids openly carrying a handgun in the joint. And it ain't the old man or the grandkids that makes me feel comfortable.
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::) Oh brother
US ARMY vs Pray_4_War ;D
You obviously haven't been paying attention to what has been happening in Afghanistan for the last 18 years.
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The thread starter is looking for a triggered (no pun intended) response. Hogg is his go to for this. 2 pages and no response from him. You've been suckered. He doesn't even vote.
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You obviously haven't been paying attention to what has been happening in Afghanistan for the last 18 years.
If you think that Afghan Civilians (with their own guns ) fought wars against the soviet Union , US...................... ...................etc
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Who fucks who?
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This Hogg is far more credible:
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1) so the NRA is now the semantics police? ok, lets call it a "gun buy" program?
The NRA labels any gun legislation as "confiscation" and a meltdown ensues.
2) I hate to break it to you, but your God didn't create the United States constitution.
The only thing compromised is the perverted interpretation of the 2nd amendment, which does not guarantee that you can have an AR-15.
Sorry. Wayne LaPierre lied to you. Try and read the book.
Two quick things.....
1. You can't "buy back" something you never owned in the first place, and if it's mandatory then it is a confiscation.
2. Which of our other God-given constitutionally protected rights should we start compromising?
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1) so the NRA is now the semantics police? ok, lets call it a "gun buy" program?
The NRA labels any gun legislation as "confiscation" and a meltdown ensues.
2) I hate to break it to you, but your God didn't create the United States constitution.
The only thing compromised is the perverted interpretation of the 2nd amendment, which does not guarantee that you can have an AR-15.
Sorry. Wayne LaPierre lied to you. Try and read the book.
Wrong. enjoy
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
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1) so the NRA is now the semantics police? ok, lets call it a "gun buy" program?
The NRA labels any gun legislation as "confiscation" and a meltdown ensues.
2) I hate to break it to you, but your God didn't create the United States constitution.
The only thing compromised is the perverted interpretation of the 2nd amendment, which does not guarantee that you can have an AR-15.
Sorry. Wayne LaPierre lied to you. Try and read the book.
What's wrong with an AR-15?
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2) I hate to break it to you, but your God didn't create the United States constitution.
The only thing compromised is the perverted interpretation of the 2nd amendment, which does not guarantee that you can have an AR-15.
Sorry. Wayne LaPierre lied to you. Try and read the book.
Sorry friend but you're mistaken.
The forefathers of this great country were led by God to establish our freedom, write the constitution and get the natives to cut their hair and wear pants.
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What's wrong with an AR-15?
Racist liberals see anything that is black as scary and intimidating.
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What's wrong with an AR-15?
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Mini 14 = nice rifle
Got a couple of those. 8)
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wow, whip out the heller decision. at least your NRA dues gives you some material.
i missed the part about the AR-15, maybe its an interpretation of this interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
Wrong. enjoy
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf
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Sorry friend but you're mistaken.
The forefathers of this great country were led by God to establish our freedom, write the constitution and get the natives to cut their hair and wear pants.
if the forefathers thought so highly of your god, they would have declared the US a mono religious state and not had created the catchphrase you commies love to distort "freedom of religion"
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if the forefathers thought so highly of your god, they would have declared the US a mono religious state and not had created the catchphrase you commies love to distort "freedom of religion"
Yes friend l, freedom to practice various denominations of the Christian faith, in order to break free from the oppression of the Catholic church.
It's safe to say they were successful.
One
Nation
Under
God
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if the forefathers thought so highly of your god, they would have declared the US a mono religious state and not had created the catchphrase you commies love to distort "freedom of religion"
I feel sorry for you.
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No today, but in 10-15 years when his generation rules over us you will. I firmly believe that if there is another civil war, it won’t be because of race or political party, it’ll be over the 2nd Amendment.
I believe this too. This fight however will be mostly split on racial lines since polling has shown that all racial demographics outside of whites support stricter gun control. Brenton Tarrant mentioned this in his manifesto.
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wow, whip out the heller decision. at least your NRA dues gives you some material.
i missed the part about the AR-15, maybe its an interpretation of this interpretation of the 2nd amendment.
Not an NRA member , never was , never will be. You missed the part about firearms " in common use "
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I believe this too. This fight however will be mostly split on racial lines since polling has shown that all racial demographics outside of whites support stricter gun control. Brenton Tarrant mentioned this in his manifesto.
The whole thing is stupid because the people in the NRA don't have the issue with controlling themselves, but the laws are aimed at lawful gun owners as well as the fringe.
You can't legislate morality in a way that changes human nature - feel free to enter the demographics into that as you wish.
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Not an NRA member , never was , never will be. You missed the part about firearms " in common use "
thanks for proving my point about a perverted interpretation........th e very supreme court decision you cited.
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I feel sorry for you.
Have you read Corinthians 2 lately?
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You have, and you don't even know it....
Bench
Name one.
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Is there a David Hogg supplement line and if so who's going to buy it out
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Have you read Corinthians 2 lately?
Corinthians 2? Is that the sequel to Corinthians? lol.