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There have been a number of complaints regarding this year's (2019) Olympia.
Complaints such as "dieting on doughnuts" to the decrease in the number of booth space exhibitors in the two-day convention center's Oly Expo.
Or, "I didn't get a free T-shirt nor a 30 pound bagfull of 8 0unce suppliment samples!"
And some who even paid $100+ for a Friday or Saturday night Oly ticket came out saying, "Boring, boring, boring!"
So if you were placed in charge to organize and manage next year's event ... what changes or additions would you make!!??
My first plan of attack would be to make the Friday and Saturday night stage presentations ... a Las Vegas EXTRAVAGANZA while abiding with the required IFBB rules and procedures of course .... but creating a stage production that would have every fan in the aena standing on their feet and going insanely crazy!
And here in Vegas that can be done! We can take the bordom out of it!
(I'm kinda thinking .... "We Are Gonna Rock You!" rock'en inside my noggen).
If you have any Oly improvement ideas, feel free to post them here. Its sure to catch the eye of next year's Olympia organizational crew and maybe something will be done to make an improvement.
By the way .... The RXMuscle crew is doing one hell of a great job covering this event!
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1) Bring back the old guard from the 90's - early 2000's that knew how to put on a decent show. The camera work was awful this year especially.
2) Get rid of Cicherillo. He's feeling himself too much during the announcing. He's not a comic, and he falls flat more times than not.
3) Get more guys actually involved in the sport of bodybuilding involved. Pay Kai, Priest, etc.... to come out and be ambassadors for the thing.
4) Also make sure they know the competitors names, some history, etc....
5) Have a translator for the foreigners.
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If that fails, then just sell the thing off to people that might want it. Let it be the Arnold Classic West / Mr. Olympia or "Dwayne Johnson Entertainment in conjunction with AMI present the Mr. Olympia".
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More flattering lighting onstage for the contenders.
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Yea, FALCO! A lot of stage lighting complaints which can be easily fixed if the Orlean's Arena crew are made aware of it.
BB, I'm not a Kai Green fan in the least but it seems that he has more fans than the other pros.
I don't know why he doesn't compete but I honestly believe that his possible entry into next year's Oly will put more fans into those vacant seats than any other contender.
And it could possibly be a wise decision on the part of Mr. Pecker to offer him an incentive of $5,000 just to be on that stage next year.
Translator!! Good idea.
But I can't agree with you regarding Chick simply because I can't think of anyone else who knows the game and its participants as well as he does .... other than Shawn.
Can you offer some recommendations!?
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But I can't agree with you regarding Chick simply because I can't think of anyone else who knows the game and its participants as well as he does .... other than Shawn.
Can you offer some recommendations!?
I don't know, but perhaps they should put out feelers or at least get Bob to stop hamming it up.
Triple H did a better job, Zane did a good job when he was involved, even Sinbad. Bob just gives off a bad strip club announcer vibe when he's allowed to do his own thing. I can't help but think that there are better options. I checked a few other boards just to see, and nearly everyone didn't like his announcing this year.
There are also little things, like when he was mentioning Shaq and Brian Shaw being in the audience, there should have been a way to see their reactions instead of just having him talk to the air, etc.... If little league games can pop a person up on the big screen, the Olympia should too.
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YEA Time warp back to 1984
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Actually, I seriously want items to bring up to the promoters on what you would think would make the experience better?
Seriously - if fans and people want improvements, at least we can bring it up to them
1) From someone who actually went to the event, expo and weekend - this is important
2) From someone who did not go but checked it out on the boards, on the streaming, etc.
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YEA Time warp back to 1984
Stuff like this is not helping. Back to 1984 when there was no expo, only Men's BB, and a niche audience, with no internet, no streaming, and you had to wait days to find out any results. This is 2019 - seriously thought on this.
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Also, perhaps change it into a strength sports festival much like the Arnold did. The bodybuilding portion can be the main focus, but perhaps embracing Strongman, Powerlifting, or other things would help attract some new faces to it. The Arnold Strongman Classic portion took a little while to get popular, but it now gets a ton of views and some pretty good sponsors. And there are a few bigger Power meets that happen during the summer that might be able to be integrated with the Olympia without much fuss. The Olympia has a Powerlifting meet and Strongman attacted to it, but you never hear about it.
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Make classic physique the main event, give the winner the title of Mr Olympia.
Stream the whole show of classic physique
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make classic physique the main event, give the winner the title of Mr Olympia.
stream the whole show of classic physique
I like this idea.
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The camera work was horrible especially the first night. They didn't understand that for comparisons you need to go wide and stop panning. With the larger call outs this was absurd! The viewers missed half the guys and could not see full line comparisons.
Also going way too close on individuals washed them out and they often missed a full body shot. On the plus side the pump room shots were old school and added to the feed. You could also see conditioning better than under the lights. Plane black backdrops work best. I can't speak to the best type of stage lighting.
For the announcers they should limit comments during routines. If you're watching you have no idea if someone actually put together a good routine.
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For the fans in attendance, I'd like to see a Rich Piana-themed ghost train. The remaining members of the 5% crew could leap out at various intervals, shaking chains and banging pots and pans while a speaker blasts out some of Rich's most memorable quotes. I'd personally also like to see a defanged and declawed bear available for photo opportunities. I know I speak for everyone when I say that, as an insecure male with body image issues, it would do wonders for my self-esteem to pose next to such a beast while grimacing and flexing.
Tex.
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The camera work was horrible especially the first night. They didn't understand that for comparisons you need to go wide and stop panning. With the larger call outs this was absurd! The viewers missed half the guys and could not see full line comparisons.
Also going way too close on individuals washed them out and they often missed a full body shot. On the plus side the pump room shots were old school and added to the feed. You could also see conditioning better than under the lights. Plane black backdrops work best. I can't speak to the best type of stage lighting.
For the announcers they should limit comments during routines. If you're watching you have no idea if someone actually put together a good routine.
Great analysis.
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i think the title of Mr Olympia is a very special privilege which should be given to the only champion who deserves with the very best physique on stage.
Joe weider never gave the title to other people but the only champion of all champions.
Since we have different divisions now, I think we should bring back the overall winner on stage too. Let all winners from 212, classic physique, man's physique and open division to compete for the only title of Mr Olympia
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Actually, I seriously want items to bring up to the promoters on what you would think would make the experience better?
Seriously - if fans and people want improvements, at least we can bring it up to them
1) From someone who actually went to the event, expo and weekend - this is important
2) From someone who did not go but checked it out on the boards, on the streaming, etc.
Ok so what would you like to see ron
2. what would you like to see taking away
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Stuff like this is not helping. Back to 1984 when there was no expo, only Men's BB, and a niche audience, with no internet, no streaming, and you had to wait days to find out any results. This is 2019 - seriously thought on this.
Ok to be honest im 52 ive done my share of BB shows granted they were all AAU shows from 1992 until 1994 and even then there was still a lot of people who cared about this stuff. hell it was on main stream TV you don't see that anymore BB has changed and so has the perception of BB today its all about mass and it turns off the general public hence the 1984 remark. these guys do sacrifice a lot and there payday is pretty sad why no real money brought in by '' THE GENERAL PUBLIC '' and no amount of change will fix that
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Bodybuilding, in its competitive vehicle, is just not very exciting.
Oiled folks in thongs flexing muscles.
When I was a competitor, and in the vortex of my obsession, I didn’t see the whole thing for what it is: a giant bore.
I’d imagine there needs to be constant “surprises” (not Dickerson belting out opera) and better and more varied events to pad the central thong battle.
As others say, strength feats/events, right on the main stage.
But I don’t know.
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Yes the camera work is just terrible. They pan to one guy or go to a side angle and you completely miss the comparison. It is just flabbergasting that the camera men wouldn't have been informed about their need to keep all competitors in view from the judges angle at all times.
That would be my only major complaint.
I actually think Bob Chic is very good at his job. Sure, he is a bit... Shall I say... "patriarchal"... But I don't think that's too problematic with the bodybuilding fan base (at least not in terms of losing their support)
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Delete David PECKER AND HIS STUPID ASS SPEECH
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Bodybuilding, in its competitive vehicle, is just not very exciting.
Oiled folks in thongs flexing muscles.
When I was a competitor, and in the vortex of my obsession, I didn’t see the whole thing for what it is: a giant bore.
I’d imagine there needs to be constant “surprises” (not Dickerson belting out opera) and better and more varied events to pad the central thong battle.
As others say, strength feats/events, right on the main stage.
But I don’t know.
When I first got hold of a copy of teh 84 Olympia I went around to a mates house , a few other guys were there and I put the DVD on for them, they all jst looked at it and my mate said " which one of them wins?' I told him and he said, "just forward to that guy then turn this queer shit off"
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When I first got hold of a copy of teh 84 Olympia I went around to a mates house , a few other guys were there and I put the DVD on for them, they all jst looked at it and my mate said " which one of them wins?' I told him and he said, "just forward to that guy then turn this queer shit off"
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Cancel it completely...
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A booth with Howard boiling up Get biggers!
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The way I see it ... the following need fix'en!
1. The Olympia Expo ...
This year it was pretty damn evident that there were fewer booth space exhibitors and fewer related strength and stamina activities on the convention floor.
Free T-shirt promotions which were a popular give-a-way item in the past was only noticed at one booth ... the name of which I have forgotten ... but it included a large Jon Cina promotional display .
Also in the past you would be given a huge OLYMPIA bag as you entered and could pack it full of various brands of supps and leave that afternoon with a bag weighing 20 - 30+ full of suplemental goodies ... but this year I simply filled one pocket with two cookies and a four ounce protein bar.
But I did get a little paper 'shot-glass-cup' full of every strength boost drink known to man ... all of which tasted just the same ... like a little cup of pre-jelled jello.
I did notice tat some of those expo booths had long lines of guys and gals waiting for long minutes to shake th.e hand or have hteir photo taken with a bodybuilding or strong-man celebrity.
I'd recommend more of that with the likes of well known athletes of the golden age standing at line's end with a hearty, "Howdy!" for those lomg-line,line standers.
Mike Christian, Lee Haney, and Mike O'Hearn did a damn fine job this year doing so!
This expo needs much, much more of that!!! Every past Oly winner should be there throughout the day meeting and greeting fans.
So .... I gotta say that next year's Oly Expo needs a lot of work .... mainly in filling up all that empty space on that huge convention floor.
Maybe even a GetBig Booth!
OK, So here is my MAJOR COMPLAINT about the Oly Expo. It's been going on forever and I think it's time for a change!
Read below!
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The way I see it ... the following need fix'en!
1. The Olympia Expo ...
This year it was pretty damn evident that there were fewer booth space exhibitors and fewer related strength and stamina activities on the convention floor.
Free T-shirt promotions which were a popular give-a-way item in the past was only noticed at one booth ... the name of which I have forgotten ... but it included a large Jon Cina promotional display .
Also in the past you would be given a huge OLYMPIA bag as you entered and could pack it full of various brands of supps and leave that afternoon with a bag weighing 20 - 30+ full of suplemental goodies ... but this year I simply filled one pocket with two cookies and a four ounce protein bar.
But I did get a little paper 'shot-glass-cup' full of every strength boost drink known to man ... all of which tasted just the same ... like a little cup of pre-jelled jello.
I did notice tat some of those expo booths had long lines of guys and gals waiting for long minutes to shake th.e hand or have hteir photo taken with a bodybuilding or strong-man celebrity.
I'd recommend more of that with the likes of well known athletes of the golden age standing at line's end with a hearty, "Howdy!" for those lomg-line,line standers.
Mike Christian, Lee Haney, and Mike O'Hearn did a damn fine job this year doing so!
This expo needs much, much more of that!!! Every past Oly winner should be there throughout the day meeting and greeting fans.
So .... I gotta say that next year's Oly Expo needs a lot of work .... mainly in filling up all that empty space on that huge convention floor.
Maybe even a GetBig Booth!
OK, So here is my MAJOR COMPLAINT about the Oly Expo. It's been going on forever and I think it's time for a change!
Read below!
The Olympia expo couldn't handle a getbig booth. The degree of separation between the average human and the getbig elite would put us in danger of X-Men like treatment from the population of Earth.
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This Oly Expo complaint will most likely never be fixed ....simply because it makes too much money for the IFBB/NPC and the Expo promoters ...
BUT....
It seems that the BIG BET this year was .... "Who's gonna win?!! Bumstead or Brion!?"
Here in Vegas that CLASSIC event within the Convention Center seemed to be the Big Game ... even bigger than "Who's gonna win the Olympia!?"
But in order to see that Classic contest in the Convention Center without a pair of US military hi-grade binoculars, you had to be in possession of one of those very expensive VIP tickets which were 'sold out' months before this battle of the biceps began, etc.. (Pls... no smoe'n comments here just yet!)
So without that VIP ticket ... you were forced to STAND in the Peanut Gallery way behind every obstruction known to man including that elevated lights, sound, and TV camera stand!
So without that Golden Ticket .... you'd be fortunate if you found a space that allowed you to see the huge screen that was set up on that slightly elevated stage which would clearly show (but from a distance) the best of the best among the females and the guys along with the highly anticipted battle between Breon and Bumstead!
And that standing crowd .... all jockying for that prized space from which you could see that screen .... was numbered in the hundreds ... possibly even 1,402!
So I took one glimpse and realized that every worthwhile space was taken .... and headed back to the relatively less crowded booth space to reminise about the gooder old days with Mike Christian and Lee Haney and eventually even Mike O'Hearn who is a big Haney fan ... Just like everyone else it seems.
So nowadays you gotta pay the big bucks to see the IFBB events that are contested on that convention center stage ... but by the looks of that huge standing crowd .... there ought to be a CHANGE.
And the silent fans .... demand it!
It does appear that there is enough interest to see a repeat battle between Brion and Bumstead and this new kid on the GetBig block by the name of Rafael Bandao (Thanks, Che) that a major profit could be made if such a change was initiated.
But that Classic event profit would have to exceed the profit mde by those VIP ticket sales.
This Rafael conpetitor could rule the Classic world if he could either shrink or grow into the Classic entry requirements. In my humble opinion .. the 'rules' should be changed so that he could compete as a Classic contender.
And in my second humble opinion .... he appears to be the epitome of a Classic contender.
And "YES, I know! Them's fighten words!)(
Do something about that if you can. RON!)
But back to those fans in the Peanut Galley ... RON, Get to work! Let's see if something can be done so that we can get those fans in the peanut gallery a seat with a decent view at a price that meets every pocketbook.
More Oly recommendations to follow but first I gotta say that SOLOMON (? ... Was it Solomon) did a damn fine job his first time on the pitcher's mound!
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HUMBLe, Placing us (Include me out!) in danger of X-Men like treatment from the population of Earth ..... might be just what we (Once again ... Include me out!) need.
Actually, I honestly don't know what ya mean!
But I could tell you a hell of lot about the making of all those Suoerhero flicks!
But then I'd have to SHOOT YA!!!
An old saying some of will never forget.
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HUMBLe, Placing us (Include me out!) in danger of X-Men like treatment from the population of Earth ..... might be just what we (Once again ... Include me out!) need.
Actually, I honestly don't know what ya mean!
But I could tell you a hell of lot about the making of all those Suoerhero flicks!
But then I'd have to SHOOT YA!!!
An old saying some of will never forget.
The X-Men had to hide so the governments of the world wouldn't lock them up for being so different with elite genetics. It doesn't matter anyway as most getbiggers don't have time to leave their private islands this time of year and give up running their Fortune 500 companies for that length of time to attend the Olympia.
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HUMBLE. OK, Gotcha and completely understood.
Now I don't gotta shoot ya.
In my way of apology abd thanks, I'll PM ya some Superhero info that you may be interested in as you seem to be a Superhero fan.
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NEXT UP!
Everybody's bored. …. but shouldn’t be!
According to a lot of BB fans who have attended the Olympia prejudging and finals bodybulding events .... IT's BOREING!!
And I feel likewise unless I'm officially involved or have a friend or a family member competing on that stage ….. or have a larger than life interest regarding the competition and results between two or more noteworthy competitors.
But we shouldn't be feeling that way because ....
THIS IS VEGAS!
This is the home of spectacular on-stage extravaganzas and world reknown talent/starz that pack casino showrooms nightly!!
Las Vegas spectaculars that the OLYMPIA should be imitating .... but ain’t!
And it can easily be done with a bit of creative imagination …. and without bending the rules and regulations of how prejudging and finals should be conducted.
Simple Las Vegas lighting (think of the sewer scene in the Le Miz stage production) with 3 bright bulbs shining on three different podiums one at a time.
Only one light will shine for each contender for 60 seconds each and then fade to black while another night comes on for contestant 2 for 60 seconds and then fades to black and repeat, repeat, repeat.
There would be no need for any contender to stroll on stage. He would simply take his place in the dark beneath that light and wait until his spot lit up.
And then have the previous Olympia winners descend from the ceiling ala Cirque du Soleil to present the trophies.
Add an elephant or two or one white lion with big star music imitators in the background and a styled up version of WE ARE GONNA ROCK YOU and I’ll bet ya a dollar to a plate of your favorite chicken that it would get he fans up on their feet in an extended moment of frenzy.
Make it a rock star extravaganza with muscle and beautiful broads and you could double next year’s attendance.
I know the people who can get it done in this fooked up town.
The IFBB has the STARZ, but they just don’t have that extravaganza production expertise!!!
Let ‘em know, RON … but stand enough away so that oncoming fist can’t hit your nose!
You can lead a horse to water … but … yada, yada, yada!
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Get Vince McMahon on board....
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Those seats need to be filled. I'm not sure if the pricing is too high but it looks really bad on the sport having so many empty seats for the pinnacle event of the year. It would be better to cut those ticket prices in half the last 2 weeks and fill those seats. At least they're making some money instead of none.
Put womens bikini on Friday and womens physique on Saturday.
And absolutely no need to introduce which celebrities are in the audience.
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Those seats need to be filled. I'm not sure if the pricing is too high but it looks really bad on the sport having so many empty seats for the pinnacle event of the year. It would be better to cut those ticket prices in half the last 2 weeks and fill those seats. At least they're making some money instead of none.
Put womens bikini on Friday and womens physique on Saturday.
And absolutely no need to introduce which celebrities are in the audience.
1. what are ticket prices? ballpark
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TRES, I never did look for the OLYMPIA pre-judging nor the Olympia finals ticket prices but .......
The Jr. Olympia ticket prices were $50 or $100 for each of the two days and they seemed to sell out pretty damn well.
Wednesday was the Jr. Olympia for all the female events .... and Thursday was the Jr. Olympia for each of the male events.
And there were a hell of a lot of contenders in every event. If you watched an entire one day contest .... you would enter at 8 AM and leave around 5 PM.
So there were a lot family and gym members leaving that showroom once each event was completed.
But if you wanted to see the finals/outcome/judges' decision of each event, you would have to stay until the very end because that was when the winners were announced and the trophies and Pro Cards were awarded.
I don't see any way to fix his long, contest procedure unless the NPC made the decision to limit the number of contestants in some way.
I spoke to one of the contenders who said that he paid $500 (?) to enter and according to the schedule which included the check-in day up to the final Sunday, he and his girlfriend paid $250 for each of the five nights in the Orleans hotel.
When the Olympia or other big events are not in town you'd pay about $70 or less for that same hotel room.
Add their travel and meal expenses and you can see that the Jr. Olymoia is an expensive event to be a part of.
And the majority of those Jr. Olympia contenders came from South America and various parts of Europe.
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Hey, HOWARD!!! How the hell are ya doing??
With that said, "I gotta respectfully disagree with ya completely!!"
As Wiggs and others have stated earlier (and I think that they will eventually be correct) professional, competitive bodybuilding MAY soon be taken over by these upcoming Classic competitors ... bringing the game back to the days you remember way back ..... when you were in that front row seat making decisive decisions.
AND I think that the condition of this year's Olympia winners is the rusty nail that closed the coffin.
So ... How ya been!?
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The Mr Olympia Title should be for Just The Men’s Bodybuilding classes.
Far to many women’s Classes / Men’s Bikini Class Should Not Be a Mr Olympia title.
far to many amateur Olympia Competions Diluting the Olympia Name & Worth.
Classic Class is a great addition & Feeder to the men’s bodybuilding.
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Cancel it completely...
Pretty much. 99% of people in the gym are there to improve the look of their physique, yet hardly any of them would say they are engaging in bodybuilding.
How anyone can miss a boat that big and instead create a niche drug fueled freakshow without any cultural or financial value is a blueprint for how to mismanage and mismarket what should have been a slam dunk trillion dollar industry. The entire world wants to look good, yet bodybuilding is basically a taboo word. That's mismanagement.
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Pretty much. 99% of people in the gym are there to improve the look of their physique, yet hardly any of them would say they are engaging in bodybuilding.
How anyone can miss a boat that big and instead create a niche drug fueled freakshow without any cultural or financial value is a blueprint for how to mismanage and mismarket what should have been a slam dunk trillion dollar industry. The entire world wants to look good, yet bodybuilding is basically a taboo word. That's mismanagement.
New blood is needed in management and marketing of the product for sure. The old guard will keep running everything like it's the 1980's. There is huge money to be made here and I'm surprised a big player like Vince McMahon hasn't jumped back in since Weider died. He failed the first time because it was so over the top but maybe he learned. Someone smart could take over an already existing organization like the NABBA and go from there. If a new org or old org like the NABBA just got a big television contract it would be lights out for the IFBB.
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The production should have had a sponsor pay or paid themselves to have Kai guest pose - pay hum well
( 6 figures ) to com I’m in shape and it would have been the highlight of the Olympia.
J
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Hey, RON! Here's my final recommedation reard'en the fix'en of the boreing parts of the Olympia.
It appears that most Oly fans and Oly anti-fans feel that the Oly prejudging and final events are the boreing parts of Oly Week.
And here's my final recommendaton of a possible fix.
I suggest that the Friday and Saturday night Oly events which are presently held in the Orleans Arena be changed to a new venue.
And that "new venue" should be the new (forthcoming) Las Vegas Madison Square Garden SPHERE which is presently being constructed in the large, vacant lot behnd _________
A first class bodybuilding event in this facility could prove to be the 9th Wonder of the World regardless of what some GetBiggers may be thinking.
Las Vegas entertainment was built by the showmenship of beautiful female bodies (IFBB female competitors) and men who accomplished what most thought was impossible (IFBB men's competitors) and cheap buffets (think real cheap!)!
And the IFBB has its own feet two-thirds into the door with male and female 'starz' (forget that cheap buffet) who almost work for peanuts.
All that's missing is another P.T. Barnum who can orchestrate this whole muscle and beauty shebang in a futureistic 'tent' such as this new Las Vegas MSC auditorium where staged events could happen which no one can imagine!
If the IFBB 'don't' do it, someone else is gonna!
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New blood is needed in management and marketing of the product for sure. The old guard will keep running everything like it's the 1980's. There is huge money to be made here and I'm surprised a big player like Vince McMahon hasn't jumped back in since Weider died. He failed the first time because it was so over the top but maybe he learned. Someone smart could take over an already existing organization like the NABBA and go from there. If a new org or old org like the NABBA just got a big television contract it would be lights out for the IFBB.
McMahon learned he either lost money or there wasn’t enough money in bodybuilding for him. This notion of him getting back into bodybuilding is a pipe dream.
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Stunt, I vote for you to produce the next Mr. O.
I was not at this Mr. Olympia and actually have never been to one. I was at the 2017 Arnold Classic in Columbus. I don’t know how many seats that ballroom held but it was at least several thousand. There were hardly any empty seats anywhere. I suppose perhaps the big draw there was seeing Arnold as he was the award presenter. But, the contest was also staged very well. Btw Cedric McMillan was the winner.
The Mr. Olympia contest should be a grandiose extravaganza, something to dazzle your eyes and make your jaw drop. Like modern Broadway musicals. Of course not only does that take imagination but it also takes money.
The number one problem with bodybuilding contests, and this is why they’re not on television anymore, is that they are BORING to watch. And it doesn’t matter what level of contest, be it local or national, or what category it is. You can only watch so many back lat spreads, or even worse, Men’s Physique or Bikini or Figure (regardless of how stunning the women are).
If bodybuilding were half as exciting to watch as MMA this industry would be worth billions and the Mr. Olympia Winner would take home millions. If the Mr. Olympia is the same old “quarter turn to the right,” “side chest” that’s a shame.
One thing I would like to see in contests is showing the contestant’s scores right after they perform, much like it’s done in figure skating or gymnastics or diving. The audience then knows how a competitor has done with the judges.
Regarding ticket prices, the nosebleed seats were $115. That’s a lot. I don’t know if that was a factor in ticket sales this year compared to previous years.
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They should weigh them all in at the press conference.
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REPS, Thanks for the vote of convidence, but I couldn't do it by my lonesome.
But there are tons of peiple here in Vegas and within the movie industry who can make the Olympia prejudging and the finals an extravaganza and still abide by the IFBB judging procedures.
I don'y know if this forthcoming MSG Sphere will be available for showcasing events similar to the Olympia, but if and when it does .... it will definitely be an extravaganza!
Here's one more suggestion for RON which I failed to mention earlier ....
I'm no longer a Super Hero fan but I have family members deeply involved within the making of today's major Sup-hero flicks ... and whenever we get together I usually complain about the actors whom portray various Super Hero charcters simply due to the fact that those actors look nothing like what the original artists intended.
And also ..... I think that we might all agree that the vast majority of the women appearing on stage as IFBB competitors are far more beautiful than 99.9% of the actresses appearing in major Hollywood productions nowadays.
I argue this topic everytime we gather together but so far I've been on the looser's side.
So if I was running this IFBB Olympia event ... I would send special invites (with all the necessary amenities) to the major Hollywood talent agents with the hopes of getting beautiful gals and exceptionally muscled guys (the Beauties and the Beasts!) to be the future super-hero bods as the original artists intended.
Some of you GetBiggers may already be aware that WME (William Morris Endeavor) recently paid $4.5 BILLION and now owns the UFC outright.
What do you think the IFBB/NPC would be worth if they got the boredom out of it!?
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McMahon learned he either lost money or there wasn’t enough money in bodybuilding for him. This notion of him getting back into bodybuilding is a pipe dream.
Yes, but he also failed with the XFL and is jumping back into that. He failed with the WBF when the IFBB had the Weider's and was at the height of it's success. Now the IFBB, NPC and the new pro thing Manion has going would be no competition for any business person with capital and a brain. Of course it doesn't have to be him but anyone.
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Hey, RON! Here's my final recommedation reard'en the fix'en of the boreing parts of the Olympia.
It appears that most Oly fans and Oly anti-fans feel that the Oly prejudging and final events are the boreing parts of Oly Week.
And here's my final recommendaton of a possible fix.
I suggest that the Friday and Saturday night Oly events which are presently held in the Orleans Arena be changed to a new venue.
And that "new venue" should be the new (forthcoming) Las Vegas Madison Square Garden SPHERE which is presently being constructed in the large, vacant lot behnd _________
A first class bodybuilding event in this facility could prove to be the 9th Wonder of the World regardless of what some GetBiggers may be thinking.
Las Vegas entertainment was built by the showmenship of beautiful female bodies (IFBB female competitors) and men who accomplished what most thought was impossible (IFBB men's competitors) and cheap buffets (think real cheap!)!
And the IFBB has its own feet two-thirds into the door with male and female 'starz' (forget that cheap buffet) who almost work for peanuts.
All that's missing is another P.T. Barnum who can orchestrate this whole muscle and beauty shebang in a futureistic 'tent' such as this new Las Vegas MSC auditorium where staged events could happen which no one can imagine!
If the IFBB 'don't' do it, someone else is gonna!
Just when you thought bodybuilding couldnt get any gayer..............
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OPPPS! Here's another remarkably smart idea from the mind of a remarkable LV half-wit! Include me out!
Now-a-daze everyone has a cell-phone.
But the NPC/IFBB ain't take'n advantage of that fact!
Ron, Here's what I recommend that they consider do-en by the tme the next Oly comes along!
Develop an app that will work on any type of cell phone which will allow those fans in attendance the opportunity to cast their vote for the winners, the losers, and the in-betweens .... and see how consistant those Oly-app-fan users are with the official judging staff.
And then give something of value (comp't Oly tickets for the next year's event?) to one of the many app-using fans whose input is consistant with those of the NPC/IFBB judges.
This would give the Oly fans something to do and help releive some of the so called boredom involved within the event.
And if the Oly-app-fan's voting outcome is different than the official judging outcome .... make arrangents to present an app-fan trophy and an app-fan title to that one individual who proves to be the app-fan overall winner.
So be it. I have spoken, but I ain't smart enough to make that Oly-App but I better call Saul to enquire if he is aslo a patent attorney?.
PS ... I only managed to get through Season 2 in which he represents Wes and just a handful of others on this Board.
Once again, "Include me out!".
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Gotta add this before I jump off the Golden Gate ...
I forget the precise reason .... but you can't place a bet on the Oly outcome even though the contest itself is advertised all over town on billboards (I only saw one though) and along the Strip in big bright lights.
But I don't think it would be illegal (I ain't no lawyer) to develop some type of voting/gambling app pertaining to each of the Oly outcomes.
If there is anything illegal about this ... it's possible to work aroind the illegalities to make it legal.
Any casino lawyers on ths Board?
The ones I know are still in jail!
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i think the title of Mr Olympia is a very special privilege which should be given to the only champion who deserves with the very best physique on stage.
Joe weider never gave the title to other people but the only champion of all champions.
Since we have different divisions now, I think we should bring back the overall winner on stage too. Let all winners from 212, classic physique, man's physique and open division to compete for the only title of Mr Olympia
FUCK THAT NOISE
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The camera work was horrible especially the first night. They didn't understand that for comparisons you need to go wide and stop panning. With the larger call outs this was absurd! The viewers missed half the guys and could not see full line comparisons.
Also going way too close on individuals washed them out and they often missed a full body shot. On the plus side the pump room shots were old school and added to the feed. You could also see conditioning better than under the lights. Plane black backdrops work best. I can't speak to the best type of stage lighting.
For the announcers they should limit comments during routines. If you're watching you have no idea if someone actually put together a good routine.
Quote for excellence.
FROM the last 20 years this is a problem... The panning and zooming... Missing half the competitors shots they worked a whole year to prep to show of... And hence we can't even make the comparisons
Also stupid side angle
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Bodybuilding, in its competitive vehicle, is just not very exciting.
Oiled folks in thongs flexing muscles.
When I was a competitor, and in the vortex of my obsession, I didn’t see the whole thing for what it is: a giant bore.
I’d imagine there needs to be constant “surprises” (not Dickerson belting out opera) and better and more varied events to pad the central thong battle.
As others say, strength feats/events, right on the main stage.
But I don’t know.
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Effectively, the take home is this: What do you do to enhance a fundamentally boring freakshow that lasts for days, well after the moment where you're entertained by the oddness?
Less of it, more varied stuff.
I think some may disagree with this, but it doesn't make sense to me that some of the real top end strength stuff that happens at these comps, happens away from the main event. People can always watch someone go for more weight or something interesting like that - it's a sport. That could also be a laboured point, but there's always that "will he / she get it"? thing. At least some intrigue.
The actual pageantry is dry as fuck. So instead of pooling all the varied things they could do, they stick to having thonged brutes waddle out and pose for X minutes, each. If the promoters want to grow their events, they have to accept that their product has about a five minute attention span from the average person and work on keeping that attention span going. Bodybuilding has no chance of ever being mainstream as a spectator thing. There is way too much of it. Why did pumping iron get so popular? We see fuck all of the actual competitions, with good reason. It has no context and it isn't interesting above perhaps viewing the top 3 guys.
People have really alluded to it already. Maybe, just maybe, bodybuilding and competitions in general is being held back by the fact that it still relies on extending out the freakshow as the centrepiece.
I saw a video of Curry warming up back stage. 1000 times more impressive than watching a man on stage pose with no real context as to how large this fella is. Great example of what I'm talking about.
I have no specific ideas, though - I think it'll just continue to flounder as a cult thing that few people are interested in.
To be perfectly honest. I could more easily watch a 1 hour top 5 comparison thing for all classes, including women, better than watching the extended cut length version of the open class. The differences in the top people are really where you might have some slight intrigue.
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I have to laugh at the idea that you can make a subculture of freaks and their yearly freak show more acceptable to a mainstream audience.
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I have to laugh at the idea that you can make a subculture of freaks and their yearly freak show more acceptable to a mainstream audience.
I've laid out the strategy.
Move the freaks to the side, do more mainstream stuff :)
Perhaps the olympia can one day be about the more thrilling subculture of extreme quilting
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The one thing you all gotta realize ..... Beside the fact that some of us claim that bodybuilding is dieing, and that the competitors appear to be on doughnut diets, and that contests are boreing, and that the Expo seems to be diminishing in size and popuarity and etc., etc. ......
That one thing that you gotta realize is that a small group is making a
hell of a lot of money.... while others involved are working for peanuts.
And there ain't no elephant in this room!
Change or no change ... It's gonna continue!
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The one thing you all gotta realize ..... Beside the fact that some of us claim that bodybuilding is dieing, and that the competitors appear to be on doughnut diets, and that contests are boreing, and that the Expo seems to be diminishing in size and popuarity and etc., etc. ......
That one thing that you gotta realize is that a small group is making a
hell of a lot of money.... while others involved are working for peanuts.
And there ain't no elephant in this room!
Change or no change ... It's gonna continue!
Contest bodybuilding as an event with mass appeal has long been dead. Fitness is where all the money is. The open Olympia contenders are an abortion of nature. Yeah- you can make money on a freak show, but to a dwindling audience.
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Contest bodybuilding as an event with mass appeal has long been dead. Fitness is where all the money is. The open Olympia contenders are an abortion of nature. Yeah- you can make money on a freak show, but to a dwindling audience.
That's the biggest danger to bodybuilding, a dwindling audience. There is very little "new blood" coming into the sport as far as fan interest. Magazines used to be on news stands everywhere and those days are dead. People don't even know bodybuilding exists unless they stumble upon it by accident.
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That's the biggest danger to bodybuilding, a dwindling audience. There is very little "new blood" coming into the sport as far as fan interest. Magazines used to be on news stands everywhere and those days are dead. People don't even know bodybuilding exists unless they stumble upon it by accident.
For the contest at the arena, the production this year was good. They just need a better lineup for next year.
For the Olympia Expo, bring in a more mainstream audience too? Make it more interactive? They brought the Bodybuilding Legends (at least some of them) to the expo. Various celebrities too. What about others, like players from the hockey team, or cheerleaders from various teams, or more Instagram personalities. Not for the old school crowd, but perhaps bring in younger new crowd?
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For the contest at the arena, the production this year was good. They just need a better lineup for next year.
For the Olympia Expo, bring in a more mainstream audience too? Make it more interactive? They brought the Bodybuilding Legends (at least some of them) to the expo. Various celebrities too. What about others, like players from the hockey team, or cheerleaders from various teams, or more Instagram personalities. Not for the old school crowd, but perhaps bring in younger new crowd?
I still think they need a t.v. contract and a better marketing plan. Tonight on NBC Sports we have Glory Road (endurance racing), Mecum Auto Auctions, Caffeine & Octane (fastest man on 2 wheels). The other day they had the World Pulling Championships which was goofy looking cars pulling a load behind them. On the weekends we have World's Strongest Man contest classics from the 80's but we have no modern bodybuilding contests anywhere.
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I still think they need a t.v. contract and a better marketing plan. Tonight on NBC Sports we have Glory Road (endurance racing), Mecum Auto Auctions, Caffeine & Octane (fastest man on 2 wheels). The other day they had the World Pulling Championships which was goofy looking cars pulling a load behind them. On the weekends we have World's Strongest Man contest classics from the 80's but we have no modern bodybuilding contests anywhere.
its because there is no market for it, also the drug stigma wont go away..
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SPHERE
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its because there is no market for it, also the drug stigma wont go away..
There's no market for curling, water polo or beach volleyball either but they're on t.v. As I've stated before the drug thing shouldn't be an issue anymore because of all the glorified drug use on channels like Viceland.
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There's no market for curling, water polo or beach volleyball either but their on t.v. As I've stated before the drug thing shouldn't be an issue anymore because of all the glorified drug use on channels like Viceland.
of course there is...
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Mr. Olympia Weekend Needs a Refresh!
https://medium.com/@joshua_schall/mr-olympia-weekend-needs-a-refresh-463ff9557baa
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A getbig booth would be quite an addition to the Olympia Weekend.
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A getbig booth would be quite an addition to the Olympia Weekend.
And who would be in there? Or what would be in there? How would you make it interesting to the 'mainstream' or 'bodybuilders hardcore'
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Gay it up !
put the announcer in sparkly clothing and the "competitors" in tiny shiny thongs! oh wait....
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And who would be in there? Or what would be in there? How would you make it interesting to the 'mainstream' or 'bodybuilders hardcore'
We could vote here and the 10 with the most votes would be there. If I were picking it would be Goodrum, Coach, SF1900, ESF, Strawman, Wes, Martin Champion, Pellius, Wiggs & Basile. Could divvy the time slots and have everyone take 1 or 2 hour shifts. Fuck the mainstream. This crew would revolutionize fitness expo's forever more.