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2:08 to 2:30 :D :D
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B2dHwyynL59/
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Sure.
::)
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Still eating a lot.
Coach looks like him body wise.
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He looks good for a 70 year old.
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*and steroids
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We should all listen to this champion bodybuilder and equestrian
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We should all listen to this champion bodybuilder and equestrian
What kind of Texan can't ride a horse?
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let me see if I can explain how this can make sense
anyone can use drugs - takes no effort
everyone enjoys training - takes effort but people enjoy it
genetics are out of your control - cant do nothing about it either way so it doesnt matter
the only factor which is in your control and which takes self-control and discipline and isnt always enjoyable and convenient, is diet.
and among those with good genes who train hard and take drugs, the difference between the ones who look good and the ones who does, really comes down to whether they are staying lean - and since the other variables are already held equal, the one thing that matters most here is diet
also, getting huge does require that you eat a significant amount of protein regularly throughout the day. and not everyone has the disciple - or the money - to do that. it isnt very convenient.
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Are those extra long chopsticks or what? Texas-sized chopsticks? ;D
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let me see if I can explain how this can make sense
anyone can use drugs - takes no effort
everyone enjoys training - takes effort but people enjoy it
genetics are out of your control - cant do nothing about it either way so it doesnt matter
the only factor which is in your control and which takes self-control and discipline and isnt always enjoyable and convenient, is diet.
and among those with good genes who train hard and take drugs, the difference between the ones who look good and the ones who does, really comes down to whether they are staying lean - and since the other variables are already held equal, the one thing that matters most here is diet
also, getting huge does require that you eat a significant amount of protein regularly throughout the day. and not everyone has the disciple - or the money - to do that. it isnt very convenient.
Branch wouldn't be a name in the bodybuilding community without a massive amount drugs. If he admits how important drugs are then all his "effort and nutrition" comments are worthless and his "commitment to the lifestyle" doesn't look like dedication but addiction.
Fixed.
Also how important was nutrition to Dallas's success?
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Can you imagine what this human shit machine eats in a day ? ;D
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What kind of Texan can't ride a horse?
Branch is really clumsy
Slipped on ice, fell off a horse, fell out his truck
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So many of these guys are completely fucked in the head.
The level of delusion is almost beyond belief. ::)
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*and steroids
Oh nooooo... not STEROIDS ::)
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Vince Gironda 1960 ( :D) & Branch Warren 2019 ( ::))
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Branch is really clumsy
Slipped on ice, fell off a horse, fell out his truck
He’s a real-life Humpty Dumpty
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He’s a real-life Humpty Dumpty
;D
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Oh nooooo... not STEROIDS ::)
why bother coach
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Ouch!
He fell off the horse onto pavement.
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let me see if I can explain how this can make sense
anyone can use drugs - takes no effort
everyone enjoys training - takes effort but people enjoy it
genetics are out of your control - cant do nothing about it either way so it doesnt matter
the only factor which is in your control and which takes self-control and discipline and isnt always enjoyable and convenient, is diet.
and among those with good genes who train hard and take drugs, the difference between the ones who look good and the ones who does, really comes down to whether they are staying lean - and since the other variables are already held equal, the one thing that matters most here is diet
also, getting huge does require that you eat a significant amount of protein regularly throughout the day. and not everyone has the disciple - or the money - to do that. it isnt very convenient.
I can see why people would think a steroid user stressing the importance of nutrition is absurd, but I agree with your post. Drugs can make a huge difference in how someone looks-no point in downplaying that. But take drugs out of the equation and someone can workout exactly the same way and will look completely different based strictly on how they diet. Hell, leave drugs in the equation and the same is still true. You can't really out-train a bad diet- even if it's regular and intense- but if you have an immaculate diet, you can look amazing with moderate, consistent training. We've all seen the phenomenon of the regular gym-goer who looks the same for years on end.
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Agreed.
Taking drugs is easy.
Training is fun.
Dieting sucks whether you are force feeding or restricting calories.
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Agreed.
Taking drug is easy.
Training is fun.
Dieting sucks whether you are force feeding or restricting calories.
Pretty much that, for me at least.
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Is he seriously eating at an all you can eat sushi restaurant?? bahaahaahhahahah
He's a fairly established guy no?
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Ok Branch- stop taking steroids and show us how your intense dietary discipline pans out, lol.
Yeah, yeah- it's the finishing touch.
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The most important part of bodybuilding is drugs. Take away the drugs and all these braggarts about their physiques would be singing a different tune.
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The most important part of bodybuilding is................in order of importance........
1. Drugs
2. Genetics
3. Diet
4. Training
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The most important part of bodybuilding is................in order of importance........
1. Drugs
2. Genetics
3. Diet
4. Training
Id say genetics before drugs, because all the drugs in the world won't turn someone into a Ronnie Coleman without the right receptors.
Here is my breakdown:
Genetics: 50%
Drugs: 45%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5%
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A well known IFBB pro bodybuilder shares his opinion with the world (for free) and predictably here come all the *real* bodybuilding experts running for their keyboards.
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A well known IFBB pro bodybuilder shares his opinion with the world (for free) and predictably here come all the *real* bodybuilding experts running for their keyboards.
Yeah, what does he know? He fell off his horse.
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A well known IFBB pro bodybuilder shares his opinion with the world (for free) and predictably here come all the *real* bodybuilding experts running for their keyboards.
The falsehood of believing a pro bodybuilder, by virtue of his being a pro bodybuilder, has a greater likelihood of being a “bodybuilding expert”, is well established.
Perhaps a more likely expert on illegal drug use/manipulation or their acquiring, but on diet and weight training?
Nope.
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The falsehood of believing a pro bodybuilder, by virtue of his being a pro bodybuilder, has a greater likelihood of being a “bodybuilding expert”, is well established.
Perhaps a more likely expert on illegal drug use/manipulation or their acquiring, but on diet and weight training?
Nope.
I refuse to believe you actually truly believe this to be true.
Ya'll have been on the negative end of the internet way, way, WAY too long.
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I refuse to believe you actually truly believe this to be true.
Ya'll have been on the negative end of the internet way, way, WAY too long.
I do believe this.
And I’ve been directly “in the pits” with the biggest names in international professional bodybuilding, so I speak from vast experience.
They’re, generally, not more educated/knowledgeable than Joe Average who’s a very experienced amateur weight-training enthusiast and who’s perhaps stepped onstage a couple of times.
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if you do everything else right your diet can be hit and miss, I dont really see much difference whatever I eat, high/low protein, clean foods no sauces as opposed to curry or cream sauces.
As long as you are in a deficit or surplus its normally the only thing that counts, I tried to eat like a bodybuiulder and just felt like shit all the time, constantly bloated, I just now eat normally , a typical western diet
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I do believe this.
And I’ve been directly “in the pits” with the biggest names in international professional bodybuilding, so I speak from vast experience.
They’re, generally, not more educated/knowledgeable than Joe Average who’s a very experienced amateur weight-training enthusiast and who’s perhaps stepped onstage a couple of times.
Trolling the new guy I get it...
Except I've been on this board longer than you have.
A LOT longer...
BUT troll away if you must ;D
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I refuse to believe you actually truly believe this to be true.
Ya'll have been on the negative end of the internet way, way, WAY too long.
As if nutrition actually is the reason guys like Branch are big, lol.
Branch without drugs and on a perfect diet = little guy. Period. One of my amateur bicycle racing friends in college started using when it was legal, so he had access to pharma grade everything. Got it from a doctor. He was 5'7, 165 and lean as can be when he started in the fall. By April the next year he was 205, lean as can be and huge. Thanks to mostly Dianabol. He lifted weights throughout this experiment, before, during and after.
After about a year he got worried since he was losing so much hair he figured he was going bald. Coupled with a bunch of other negative symptoms (blood values), he quit the steroids but kept on working out. Within 6 months he was back to 165. Lean as can be, haha.
So much denial in the steroid using community, I think I'm in Egypt.
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if you do everything else right your diet can be hit and miss, I dont really see much difference whatever I eat, high/low protein, clean foods no sauces as opposed to curry or cream sauces.
As long as you are in a deficit or surplus its normally the only thing that counts, I tried to eat like a bodybuiulder and just felt like shit all the time, constantly bloated, I just now eat normally , a typical western diet
You (and quite a few others) missed the point Branch made. You wouldn't have if you took bodybuilding as serious as he does (or did? I don't know) BUT let me break it down for you-
Genetics
Drugs
Training
Add them altogether and without enough food they equal -ZERO-
That's right-nothing. Even the guys with great genetics who take shitloads of drugs and train like bitches (phil heath being a prime example) still have to eat just like every other genetically less blessed bodybuilder.
All the pros say the same thing- diet is key. Are they all lying?
Maybe?
Are they possibly just all misinformed?
Possible.
The truth hurts. I hate eating all the time, its the hardest part of bodybuilding for me.
JUST LIKE IT IS FOR MOST ANYONE WHO TAKES BODYBUILDING SERIOUS
I hate for all the people who don't know better to come to this forum and read a thread like this and walk away feeling like the idiots who don't know shit but post post post like they are experts have shared some kind of insider info cause that's how bullshit misconceptions start. Eventually people hear them enough times and think they're actually true.
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As if nutrition actually is the reason guys like Branch are big, lol.
Branch without drugs and on a perfect diet = little guy. Period.
Branch WITH drugs but without enough food = little guy. Period.
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You (and quite a few others) missed the point Branch made. You wouldn't have if you took bodybuilding as serious as he does (or did? I don't know) BUT let me break it down for you-
Genetics
Drugs
Training
Add them altogether and without enough food they equal -ZERO-
That's right-nothing. Even the guys with great genetics who take shitloads of drugs and train like bitches (phil heath being a prime example) still have to eat just like every other genetically less blessed bodybuilder.
All the pros say the same thing- diet is key. Are they all lying?
Maybe?
Are they possibly just all misinformed?
Possible.
The truth hurts. I hate eating all the time, its the hardest part of bodybuilding for me.
JUST LIKE IT IS FOR MOST ANYONE WHO TAKES BODYBUILDING SERIOUS
I hate for all the people who don't know better to come to this forum and read a thread like this and walk away feeling like the idiots who don't know shit but post post post like they are experts have shared some kind of insider info cause that's how bullshit misconceptions start. Eventually people hear them enough times and think they're actually true.
Genetics
Drugs
Food
without training are pointless
Food and what ist made up of is secondary, after all, everything we eat is just differing formations of atoms of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen
Pretty basic really
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Branch should do an experiment and post the results after 6 months.
Train without drugs and a strict diet.
Train without drugs and no diet.
Train with drugs and no diet.
*No diet can be high: calorie, fat, sugars, carbs, etc.. the food should be exactly the same for drug free training as with drugs.
Ronnie Coleman used a lot of bbq sauce precontest, imagine how good he could have looked if he'd eaten clean!
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Branch should do an experiment and post the results after 6 months.
Train without drugs and a strict diet.
Train without drugs and no diet.
Train with drugs and no diet.
*No diet can be high: calorie, fat, sugars, carbs, etc.. the food should be exactly the same for drug free training as with drugs.
Ronnie Coleman used a lot of bbq sauce precontest, imagine how good he could have looked if he'd eaten clean!
Person A: Trains with drugs with shitty diet
Person B: Trains without drugs with great diet.
Person A blows Person B out of the water every single time.
The steroid users do not want to admit this.
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Branch should do an experiment and post the results after 6 months.
Train without drugs and a strict diet.
Train without drugs and no diet.
Train with drugs and no diet.
*No diet can be high: calorie, fat, sugars, carbs, etc.. the food should be exactly the same for drug free training as with drugs.
Ronnie Coleman used a lot of bbq sauce precontest, imagine how good he could have looked if he'd eaten clean!
I've done this experiment on my own body. People that have used hormones know the conclusion to these experiments and none would fully admit to them, albeit I am doing that. Arguing about it is useless as the impacts are on a major scale. Bodybuilders want you to think they just do a little of this and a little of that but all of them lie.
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Id say genetics before drugs, because all the drugs in the world won't turn someone into a Ronnie Coleman without the right receptors.
Here is my breakdown:
Genetics: 50%
Drugs: 45%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5%
& % of training on biceps supinator machinery ??? ::)
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Trolling the new guy I get it...
Except I've been on this board longer than you have.
A LOT longer...
BUT troll away if you must ;D
What are your other gimmick accounts?
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Branch WITH drugs but without enough food = little guy. Period.
Not true, he wouldn’t be maximizing his “potential” for sure but far from “little”
Competitive bbing you have to do everything to a T, everyone is doing the same thing, genetics certainly sets you apart from the ordinary/average competitors
Average Joe juicer lifters, you can get away from a bit, you’ll look better juiced eating here and there, then the natural lifter that does everything correctly, again, this is the average juicer vs natural, not competitive bbing
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Id say genetics before drugs, because all the drugs in the world won't turn someone into a Ronnie Coleman without the right receptors.
Here is my breakdown:
Genetics: 50%
Drugs: 45%
Diet: 2.5%
Training: 2.5%
Fixed for you
Genetics : 50%
Drugs : 2 %
Diet : 45 %
Training 3 %
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Fixed for you
Genetics : 50%
Drugs : 2 %
Diet : 45 %
Training 3 %
Lol laughable
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Trolling the new guy I get it...
Except I've been on this board longer than you have.
A LOT longer...
BUT troll away if you must ;D
With all sincerity, I am not trolling you. And I’m not aware of why you think this.
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You (and quite a few others) missed the point Branch made. You wouldn't have if you took bodybuilding as serious as he does (or did? I don't know) BUT let me break it down for you-
Genetics
Drugs
Training
Add them altogether and without enough food they equal -ZERO-
That's right-nothing. Even the guys with great genetics who take shitloads of drugs and train like bitches (phil heath being a prime example) still have to eat just like every other genetically less blessed bodybuilder.
All the pros say the same thing- diet is key. Are they all lying?
Maybe?
Are they possibly just all misinformed?
Possible.
The truth hurts. I hate eating all the time, its the hardest part of bodybuilding for me.
JUST LIKE IT IS FOR MOST ANYONE WHO TAKES BODYBUILDING SERIOUS
I hate for all the people who don't know better to come to this forum and read a thread like this and walk away feeling like the idiots who don't know shit but post post post like they are experts have shared some kind of insider info cause that's how bullshit misconceptions start. Eventually people hear them enough times and think they're actually true.
I am an expert. I have been an “insider”. I have competed. I have (briefly) experimented with anabolic steroids.
I have been extraordinarily serious about weight training/bodybuilding/powerlifting since 1985.
P.S. The nutrient-partitioning advantage of steroids alone means an underfed lifter on quality gear will STILL outperform/outgrow a clean lifter who consumes mountains of wholesome grub.
P.P.S. Eating a lot, all the time, IS difficult. No argument.
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Fixed for you
Genetics : 50%
Drugs : 2 %
Diet : 45 %
Training 3 %
This is more like it.
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Such an easy subject to troll on. Like I said if you’ve done both trained/diet natural and on gear you know the difference. It’s so massive.
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Don't eff with Branch, man... he is pure Alpha (albeit a mini-me version)
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Branch should do an experiment and post the results after 6 months.
Train without drugs and a strict diet.
Train without drugs and no diet.
Train with drugs and no diet.
*No diet can be high: calorie, fat, sugars, carbs, etc.. the food should be exactly the same for drug free training as with drugs.
Ronnie Coleman used a lot of bbq sauce precontest, imagine how good he could have looked if he'd eaten clean!
Ronnie also trained in over-100-degree temperatures, did his share of cardio, and (for most of his pro career) worked a full-time job as a cop.
BBQ sauce ain't that high in calories, anyway. It's not as if he was downing jars of mayonnaise.
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Person A: Trains with drugs with shitty diet
Person B: Trains without drugs with great diet.
Person A blows Person B out of the water every single time.
The steroid users do not want to admit this.
Too many people want to delude themselves into thinking that they're just a few syringes away from a Sandow. But once these guys start injecting but look nothing like the pros they wish to emulate, they'll either blame genetics or declare that the pros were taking even more than they were (despite those wanna-bes duplicating that "pro stack").
That's simply not the case.
I've met my share of people, who you'd never know were using anabolics unless they told you, because they certainly didn't look the part.
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Too many people want to delude themselves into thinking that they're just a few syringes away from a Sandow. But once these guys start injecting but look nothing like the pros they wish to emulate, they'll either blame genetics or declare that the pros were taking even more than they were (despite those wanna-bes duplicating that "pro stack").
That's simply not the case.
I've met my share of people, who you'd never know were using anabolics unless they told you, because they certainly didn't look the part.
MCWAY....he’s trolling. We’ve been over this ad nauseam.
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As if nutrition actually is the reason guys like Branch are big, lol.
Branch without drugs and on a perfect diet = little guy. Period. One of my amateur bicycle racing friends in college started using when it was legal, so he had access to pharma grade everything. Got it from a doctor. He was 5'7, 165 and lean as can be when he started in the fall. By April the next year he was 205, lean as can be and huge. Thanks to mostly Dianabol. He lifted weights throughout this experiment, before, during and after.
After about a year he got worried since he was losing so much hair he figured he was going bald. Coupled with a bunch of other negative symptoms (blood values), he quit the steroids but kept on working out. Within 6 months he was back to 165. Lean as can be, haha.
So much denial in the steroid using community, I think I'm in Egypt.
Did his hair grow back?
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MCWAY....he’s trolling. We’ve been over this ad nauseam.
I don’t think that he is trolling
Remember the stories of Dallas McCarver eating KFC for dinner each night?
Palumbo still loves to reminisce about his daily Burger King dinners.
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I don’t think that he is trolling
Remember the stories of Dallas McCarver eating KFC for dinner each night?
Palumbo still loves to reminisce about his daily Burger King dinners.
He’s 100% trolling. How many times can we go over this? 25? 50? 100 times?
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Too many people want to delude themselves into thinking that they're just a few syringes away from a Sandow. But once these guys start injecting but look nothing like the pros they wish to emulate, they'll either blame genetics or declare that the pros were taking even more than they were (despite those wanna-bes duplicating that "pro stack").
That's simply not the case.
I've met my share of people, who you'd never know were using anabolics unless they told you, because they certainly didn't look the part.
You forgot to mention pros get gear that is apparently "the real deal" whilst us normal folks can only get watered down "chinese bathtub" crap. So when people don't grow-its the gear! Its the genetic advantages! It's-it's------?!??!?!??!!?
Might as well get a wheel with a bunch of possible reasons one won't grow and throw fucking darts at it. And, naturally, nowhere on the dartboard will you find "not eating enough" "not sleeping enough" " not training hard enough" etc etc etc
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Remember,to look your best,drugs or no drugs..................a calorie is not just a calorie.
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He’s 100% trolling. How many times can we go over this? 25? 50? 100 times?
All that needs to be said is try it on yourselves. Train hard and a great diet with hormones and train hard with a great diet minus hormones. Proceed to look in the mirror.
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Remember,to look your best,drugs or no drugs..................a calorie is not just a calorie.
And not every hormone is tren. Lol.
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Ronnie also trained in over-100-degree temperatures, did his share of cardio, and (for most of his pro career) worked a full-time job as a cop.
BBQ sauce ain't that high in calories, anyway. It's not as if he was downing jars of mayonnaise.
Yes a calorie is a calorie but if you're a police officer it's less than a calorie for a non officer. I'm sure Ronnie was using the sugar free version of sweet baby rays.
Lol.
You guys are the best.
Too many people want to delude themselves into thinking that they're just a few syringes away from a Sandow. But once these guys start injecting but look nothing like the pros they wish to emulate, they'll either blame genetics or declare that the pros were taking even more than they were (despite those wanna-bes duplicating that "pro stack").
That's simply not the case.
I've met my share of people, who you'd never know were using anabolics unless they told you, because they certainly didn't look the part.
Branch has elite genetics. Steroids are the finishing touch.
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Too many people want to delude themselves into thinking that they're just a few syringes away from a Sandow. But once these guys start injecting but look nothing like the pros they wish to emulate, they'll either blame genetics or declare that the pros were taking even more than they were (despite those wanna-bes duplicating that "pro stack").
That's simply not the case.
I've met my share of people, who you'd never know were using anabolics unless they told you, because they certainly didn't look the part.
No one is comparing themselves to pros, look at the posts, many are saying how important drugs are and how much pros like to downplay the effects it has on a physique.
Genetics or not pros take a lot, a lot more than local gym rats do
First and for most, genetics, response, longevity is the key to successful pro, then come the others
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I don’t think that he is trolling
Remember the stories of Dallas McCarver eating KFC for dinner each night?
Palumbo still loves to reminisce about his daily Burger King dinners.
Don’t forget for Ronnie’s prep in 2003 and 2004 he was eating black eye pea and outback steak house
I witnessed him first hand eating French fries throughout his prep in 03
Not saying everyone does this or it’s the only thing he eats, don’t get it twisted
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Did his hair grow back?
For the most part, yes. I remember watching him comb his hair after a race and gobs of hair would come out on his comb, lol. He freaked out a bit. He also had tremendous mood swings- we were driving to a race and he just starting going from morose to mad in minutes.
He was a great athlete btw. Went on to get a PhD in sport physiology.
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We should all listen to this champion bodybuilder and equestrian
Branch was almost the next Reeves(Christopher).
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Branch was almost the next Reeves(Christopher).
;D ;D ;D
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I fell off my bike like that when I was 10.
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Are those extra long chopsticks or what? Texas-sized chopsticks? ;D
Normal sized for what a decent restaurant or when you'd have at home.
Cheap break apart chopsticks are like 2/3 that size.
Hope this helps
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All that needs to be said is try it on yourselves. Train hard and a great diet with hormones and train hard with a great diet minus hormones. Proceed to look in the mirror.
As most don’t care to be IFBB pros or top NPC amateurs, most will be alright with the latter.
But let some tell it, they shouldn’t even bother touching their uncle’s/brother’s/dad’s old cement weights without their pharmaceutical stack in tow.
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Did his hair grow back?
;D
All that 'juice' & he didn't grow 1 millimeter ;D