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Title: Mike O'Hearn teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: m8 on September 19, 2019, 03:14:16 AM


Can't make this shit up.  :D
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: robcguns on September 19, 2019, 03:20:47 AM
I watched this vid the other day.Mike and Larry seem cool,jay seems like a dick.Jay Just seems like the most boring guy ever.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: sync pulse on September 19, 2019, 03:38:18 AM
Jay Just seems like the most boring guy ever.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: m8 on September 19, 2019, 03:46:06 AM
30:25 he mentions Getbig
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 19, 2019, 04:50:57 AM
Good video.

Lot's of interesting stuff.

Was this in Dubai?
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: gmflex on September 19, 2019, 07:22:50 AM
30:25 he mentions Getbig

 ;D  ;D

I wonder what his getbig username is?

 ;D  ;D

He is clearly been visiting getbig..

No way his a nattie..

Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: US MUSL on September 19, 2019, 07:30:05 AM
O'tren always wants to do odd ball exercises that no one else does to make himself look stronger.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: a_pupil on September 19, 2019, 07:35:08 AM
I'd rather hang out with an actual fridge instead of jay
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: falco on September 19, 2019, 07:37:07 AM
Larry sounds goofy, O'Tren sounds fake to his bones, even his personality, always playing a role.
Jay, well,, Jay will be Jay.
Wish them the best in life.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Hypertrophy on September 19, 2019, 08:29:45 AM
I watched this vid the other day.Mike and Larry seem cool,jay seems like a dick.Jay Just seems like the most boring guy ever.
Hmm- I didn't get this vibe about Jay. He just seems like a laid back guy who was just working out with them. Saw him at Charlotte airport about a year ago and he was easily approachable- signing autographs when people came up to him and  asked.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: anvil on September 19, 2019, 08:53:09 AM
The comments section is friggin' gold.  O'tren just getting the living shit roasted out of him
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: SF1900 on September 19, 2019, 09:29:42 AM
lol at these steroid users explaining angles, like it matters haha lol  :D :D
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: _bruce_ on September 19, 2019, 09:36:32 AM
Tray, Tay and Whey Cutler won't like that.
Already informed the extended Cutler clan to dislike the video.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 19, 2019, 09:47:18 AM
lol at these steroid users explaining angles, like it matters haha lol  :D :D

Show me one steroid user in that video bro. ???
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: oldtimer1 on September 19, 2019, 10:13:14 AM
I like the fact that Mike is an athlete and he lifts heavy weights. So many of the top bodybuilders can only lift heavy weights if they cut the range of motion. Mike competed in Judo, power lifting and bodybuilding. I give him props even though I suspect he uses.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Kwon on September 19, 2019, 10:28:44 AM
I like the fact that Mike is an athlete and he lifts heavy weights. So many of the top bodybuilders can only lift heavy weights if they cut the range of motion. Mike competed in Judo, power lifting and bodybuilding. I give him props even though I suspect he uses.


Mike is like the Tony Robbins of bodybuilding though
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: m8 on September 19, 2019, 11:26:39 AM
I like the fact that Mike is an athlete and he lifts heavy weights. So many of the top bodybuilders can only lift heavy weights if they cut the range of motion. Mike competed in Judo, power lifting and bodybuilding. I give him props even though I suspect he uses.

Hi Mike.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Wiggs on September 19, 2019, 12:08:44 PM
Mike's now going to say he taught Jay Cutler how to properly lift weights.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 19, 2019, 12:12:35 PM
I like the fact that Mike is an athlete and he lifts heavy weights. So many of the top bodybuilders can only lift heavy weights if they cut the range of motion. Mike competed in Judo, power lifting and bodybuilding. I give him props even though I suspect he uses.

 :o
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 19, 2019, 12:26:27 PM
You might be a schmoe if you know O'Hearn did judo...
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Hulkotron on September 19, 2019, 04:01:45 PM
The comments section is friggin' gold.  O'tren just getting the living shit roasted out of him

Haha I just read some, they are gold indeed
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: pellius on September 19, 2019, 07:23:03 PM
I like the fact that Mike is an athlete and he lifts heavy weights. So many of the top bodybuilders can only lift heavy weights if they cut the range of motion. Mike competed in Judo, power lifting and bodybuilding. I give him props even though I suspect he uses.

For a guy pushing 50 years old whose whole livelihood depends on his physique, I have a slight suspicion that he might have dabble in some mild anabolics.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IDgpxuUtV_g/maxresdefault.jpg)
(https://liftn.com/wp-content/uploads/hqdefault-5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: _bruce_ on September 20, 2019, 05:05:54 AM
The natural angle is so tiring. Make anabolics legal again and all those dudes don't have to tip-toe around something so obvious.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Rambone on September 20, 2019, 05:25:59 AM
You might be a schmoe if you know O'Hearn did judo...

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Pet shop boys on September 20, 2019, 05:45:37 AM
lol at these steroid users explaining angles, like it matters haha lol  :D :D

Exactly, the minute they stop juicing angles go to hell
Lol


WoooSHHHHHHHHHHH
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 20, 2019, 10:27:46 AM
Cutler is doing the Vince Gironda style "benching to the neck".

Reg Park said you train the area of the chest you want by lowering the bar to that area.  No need for incline decline bench.

If you want to hit upper chest, lower bar to upper pec, middle chest lower to middle, and lower chest to lower pec.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: Irongrip400 on September 20, 2019, 10:40:22 AM
Cutler is doing the Vince Gironda style "benching to the neck".

Reg Park said you train the area of the chest you want by lowering the bar to that area.  No need for incline decline bench.

If you want to hit upper chest, lower bar to upper pec, middle chest lower to middle, and lower chest to lower pec.

Do you think this works?
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 20, 2019, 11:36:13 AM
Do you think this works?

I think lowering to the upper chest/neck does affect the claviculer pectoral more.

Not sure about the rest.

Flat bench strongly affects the main pec.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: joswift on September 20, 2019, 12:03:39 PM
I think lowering to the upper chest/neck does affect the claviculer pectoral more.

Not sure about the rest.

Flat bench strongly affects the main pec.


3 mins onwards
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 23, 2019, 04:38:53 AM


3 mins onwards

Interesting video.  Brignole's assertions are however, too black and white.

Bench press Analysis:

Note:

Sternal head = main pec
Clavicular head = upper pec

https://exrx.net/Kinesiology/BenchPress

"Incline / Decline (press)

Trebbs (2010) found that the Bench Press on a flat bench activates the sternal head of the the Pectoralis Major more than Incline Bench Press. The sternal head tends to decrease in activity as the incline increases (Trebbs 2010). Glass (1997) reported that Barbell Decline Bench Press recruits a greater portion of the Pectoralis Major than does the Barbell Incline Bench Press. Barnett (1995) reported that flat Smith Bench Press activated the the sternal head of the Pectoralis Major more than the Smith Decline Bench Press.

Trebbs (2010) found that the clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major (upper chest) was most active at a 44º incline, over the 0º (flat bench), and incline bench presses of 28º, and 56º. In contrast, Barnett (1995) reported that the clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major was no more active during the Smith Incline Bench Press than the flat Smith Bench Press, however it was less active in the Smith Decline Bench Press. Glass (1997) reported no significant differences in clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major between Barbell Incline and Decline Bench Press. Interesting, Lauver also found no significant difference in the activation of clavicular head when comparing decline, flat and incline presses. However, when they divided the concentric phase into 4 parts, they observed particularly more clavicular activation during the 26-50% contraction duration in both 30º and 45º Incline Bench Press.

The Anterior Deltoid tended to increase in activity as the bench inclination increased (Glass 1997, Trebbs 2010). The long head of the Triceps Brachii was more active on the Smith Decline bench press than the flat Smith Bench Press or Smith Incline Bench Press, particularly with narrow hand spacing (Glass 1997).

Barnett (1995) reported very low levels of Latissimus Dorsi during various angles of the bench press (decline, flat, and incline) with a short burst of activity immediately prior to the initiation of the lift. Despite its relatively low activity, the Latissimus Dorsi exhibited significantly greater activation in the decline position compared to the flat position with both wide and narrow grips. (Barnett 1995)

As resistance training programs progress, additional supplemental exercises should be performed to fully train the target muscles. Performing the Incline Bench Press is important to provide a more complete nueromuscular activation and fully train the involved musculature. (Fleck & Kraemer 2014)"
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 12:20:32 PM
Interesting video.  Brignole's assertions are however, too black and white.

Bench press Analysis:

Note:

Sternal head = main pec
Clavicular head = upper pec

https://exrx.net/Kinesiology/BenchPress

"Incline / Decline (press)

Trebbs (2010) found that the Bench Press on a flat bench activates the sternal head of the the Pectoralis Major more than Incline Bench Press. The sternal head tends to decrease in activity as the incline increases (Trebbs 2010). Glass (1997) reported that Barbell Decline Bench Press recruits a greater portion of the Pectoralis Major than does the Barbell Incline Bench Press. Barnett (1995) reported that flat Smith Bench Press activated the the sternal head of the Pectoralis Major more than the Smith Decline Bench Press.

Trebbs (2010) found that the clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major (upper chest) was most active at a 44º incline, over the 0º (flat bench), and incline bench presses of 28º, and 56º. In contrast, Barnett (1995) reported that the clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major was no more active during the Smith Incline Bench Press than the flat Smith Bench Press, however it was less active in the Smith Decline Bench Press. Glass (1997) reported no significant differences in clavicular head of the Pectoralis Major between Barbell Incline and Decline Bench Press. Interesting, Lauver also found no significant difference in the activation of clavicular head when comparing decline, flat and incline presses. However, when they divided the concentric phase into 4 parts, they observed particularly more clavicular activation during the 26-50% contraction duration in both 30º and 45º Incline Bench Press.

The Anterior Deltoid tended to increase in activity as the bench inclination increased (Glass 1997, Trebbs 2010). The long head of the Triceps Brachii was more active on the Smith Decline bench press than the flat Smith Bench Press or Smith Incline Bench Press, particularly with narrow hand spacing (Glass 1997).

Barnett (1995) reported very low levels of Latissimus Dorsi during various angles of the bench press (decline, flat, and incline) with a short burst of activity immediately prior to the initiation of the lift. Despite its relatively low activity, the Latissimus Dorsi exhibited significantly greater activation in the decline position compared to the flat position with both wide and narrow grips. (Barnett 1995)

As resistance training programs progress, additional supplemental exercises should be performed to fully train the target muscles. Performing the Incline Bench Press is important to provide a more complete nueromuscular activation and fully train the involved musculature. (Fleck & Kraemer 2014)"

why are you trying to complicate things

I know from bench pressing what happens with my pecs, virtually fuck all, same with flys, I lower the weight down and out and then in the upward movement my pecs totally relax once I get past parrallel coming up, to the point it annoys me, I simply cant keep any tension on, I just do half repos in the lowered position under constant tension.

All I get from pressing is shoulder engagement
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 23, 2019, 12:30:30 PM
why are you trying to complicate things

I know from bench pressing what happens with my pecs, virtually fuck all, same with flys, I lower the weight down and out and then in the upward movement my pecs totally relax once I get past parrallel coming up, to the point it annoys me, I simply cant keep any tension on, I just do half repos in the lowered position under constant tension.

All I get from pressing is shoulder engagement

Without seeing your benching style it's hard to comment on your lack of results.
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: joswift on September 23, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Without seeing your benching style it's hard to comment on your lack of results.

benching style?
Everyone does it the same, you lie on a bench and press the weight, I just get nothing out of it at all
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: IroNat on September 23, 2019, 02:22:25 PM
benching style?
Everyone does it the same, you lie on a bench and press the weight, I just get nothing out of it at all

Incredible.  I do not doubt you.

You are a very unique person.

Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 23, 2019, 03:24:43 PM
Ol' Dick Drainin' been working them muscles again, has he?  ;D
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: SOMEPARTS on September 23, 2019, 03:26:30 PM
why are you trying to complicate things

I know from bench pressing what happens with my pecs, virtually fuck all, same with flys, I lower the weight down and out and then in the upward movement my pecs totally relax once I get past parrallel coming up, to the point it annoys me, I simply cant keep any tension on, I just do half repos in the lowered position under constant tension.

All I get from pressing is shoulder engagement


Either a lot stronger in the chest than shoulders genetically or a bio-mechanic issue?
Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: WalterWhite on September 23, 2019, 04:22:40 PM
Jay starts by saying he no longer benches then otren bullies him into benching. Then ot begins to analyze the angle of Jay's bench. ::)

Powerful stuff right there.

Title: Re: Mike O'tren teaching Jay Cutler and Larry Wheels how to lift properly
Post by: thebrink on September 25, 2019, 05:24:34 PM
O'tren always wants to do odd ball exercises that no one else does to make himself look stronger.

LMAO I actually started doing the same thing once I got old..