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So I know I’ll take flack for this because this was a supplement but for many years I drank heavyweight 900. Still to this day I respond well to a high carb/protein supp. Even on my 50s I have trouble keeping weight. So anyway champion nutrition went out of business. Anyone know anything similar. Most weight gainers taste like shit. Heavyweight 900 tasted great. I may just eat tubs of frozen yogurt.
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So I know I’ll take flack for this because this was a supplement but for many years I drank heavyweight 900. Still to this day I respond well to a high carb/protein supp. Even on my 50s I have trouble keeping weight. So anyway champion nutrition went out of business. Anyone know anything similar. Most weight gainers taste like shit. Heavyweight 900 tasted great. I may just eat tubs of frozen yogurt.
MHP Up Your Mass
I’ve never had a problem MHP supplements
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just have whey and tins of rice pudding
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I remember they used to carry the Hoffman supplements when I was a kid at Pearls. God that stuff tasted like shit and wouldn’t mix for crap.
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I remember they used to carry the Hoffman supplements when I was a kid at Pearls. God that stuff tasted like shit and wouldn’t mix for crap.
i used to like york's gross peanut butter bars one part peanut butter one part sawdust and one part boho's sweat. hoffman used to reportedly mix the stuff shirtless in a large cauldron using a canoe paddle.
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Hammer Nutrition had some tasty products, maybe they also carry a protein powder with added caloric bloat. But beware - it's been years since I used one of their fart granulates.
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Thanks guys. Will check out MHP
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Thanks Funk,you just made me feel older! ;D
That Hoffmans protein from the sea was disgusting.
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So I know I’ll take flack for this because this was a supplement but for many years I drank heavyweight 900. Still to this day I respond well to a high carb/protein supp. Even on my 50s I have trouble keeping weight. So anyway champion nutrition went out of business. Anyone know anything similar. Most weight gainers taste like shit. Heavyweight 900 tasted great. I may just eat tubs of frozen yogurt.
Weight gainers? Now that's my specialty.. ;D
Of the gainers currently on the markets, the most likely one for which you can easily access may be Muscle Milk Gainer.
It tastes pretty good and mixes well (at least, the chocolate one does).
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I lived on weight gainers for almost a decade. I curse the day I drank my first one. Always choose lean over gaining weight. I was lean as a kid and in high school/college. Then I wanted to get big. Now I fight to keep fat off. Wish I never touched those things. It's unhealthy to drink 1000-1500 extra calories in gain weight shakes. Contributes nothing to muscle but everything to fat gain.
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I lived on weight gainers for almost a decade. I curse the day I drank my first one. Always choose lean over gaining weight. I was lean as a kid and in high school/college. Then I wanted to get big. Now I fight to keep fat off. Wish I never touched those things. It's unhealthy to drink 1000-1500 extra calories in gain weight shakes. Contributes nothing to muscle but everything to fat gain.
yep, once those fat cells are created they are always there lying in wait...
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I dare say most of us did the wrong thing when we started. Hard to criticise anybody for those times, really.
I used to go to a store and use one of those scales that printed out the receipt of what you weighed, once a week.
All I did was follow that number. Then one day someone said to me "you're getting a bit of a keg on you" and I realised, holy shit, I went from bone skinny to fat cnut.
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I lived on weight gainers for almost a decade. I curse the day I drank my first one. Always choose lean over gaining weight. I was lean as a kid and in high school/college. Then I wanted to get big. Now I fight to keep fat off. Wish I never touched those things. It's unhealthy to drink 1000-1500 extra calories in gain weight shakes. Contributes nothing to muscle but everything to fat gain.
I don't regret my use of them at all. As the Good Book says, "To everything, there is a season.".
Weight gainers were the only supplements I could consistently afford in my younger years. When you're a twig and fairly active (playing softball, volleyball, and walking uphill to class during your college years), weight gainers are your only hope to put on any serious size.
I've used plenty, some good...some not so good:
Weider Dynamic Weight Gainer
Weider Sugar-Free BIG
Weider Mass 1000
Weider Mega Mass 2000
Weider Super Mega Mass 2000
Weider Giant Mega Mass 4000
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel 1000
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel 2500
Twinlab Mass Fuel
Twinlab Lee Haney's Mass Fuel (I still have the video tape that came with it).
Genesis Nutrition Super Weight Gain 1800
Champion Nutrition Heavyweight Gainer
Champion Nutrition SuperHeavyweight Gainer 1000
ICOPRO Mega-Gro 10,000
Strength Systems USA Heavyweight Bulk-Up
Prolab N-Large
Prolab N-Large2
CytoSport Muscle Milk Gainer
Cybergenics Infiniti 3000
GNC Mass XXX
MuscleTech Mass-Tech
Ultimate Nutrition Massive Whey Gainer
Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice
Ultimate Nutrition IsoMass Xtreme Gainer
That list is not exhaustive, just a sample of those I've used during the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. I don't need them anymore.....and I stress...ANYMORE. Back in the day, I wouldn't have broken 200 lbs without them. Your body changes (even as a ectomorph) as you age. Like all supplements, weight gainers have improved VASTLY in quality throughout the years. I just wish I had today's weight gainers' quality, instead of some of those I used 20-30 years ago.
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I lived on weight gainers for almost a decade. I curse the day I drank my first one. Always choose lean over gaining weight. I was lean as a kid and in high school/college. Then I wanted to get big. Now I fight to keep fat off. Wish I never touched those things. It's unhealthy to drink 1000-1500 extra calories in gain weight shakes. Contributes nothing to muscle but everything to fat gain.
Agreed. I actually went from a Bruce Lee ripped physique to looking like shit but thought I looked better because 10-15 pounds heavier. It gets harder and harder to keep the weight off every year.
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Agreed. I actually went from a Bruce Lee ripped physique to looking like shit but thought I looked better because 10-15 pounds heavier. It gets harder and harder to keep the weight off every year.
Ain't that the truth. Getting old really sucks.
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I don't regret my use of them at all. As the Good Book says, "To everything, there is a season.".
Weight gainers were the only supplements I could consistently afford in my younger years. When you're a twig and fairly active (playing softball, volleyball, and walking uphill to class during your college years), weight gainers are your only hope to put on any serious size.
I've used plenty, some good...some not so good:
Weider Dynamic Weight Gainer
Weider Sugar-Free BIG
Weider Mass 1000
Weider Mega Mass 2000
Weider Super Mega Mass 2000
Weider Giant Mega Mass 4000
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel 1000
Twinlab Gainers' Fuel 2500
Twinlab Mass Fuel
Twinlab Lee Haney's Mass Fuel (I still have the video tape that came with it).
Genesis Nutrition Super Weight Gain 1800
Champion Nutrition Heavyweight Gainer
Champion Nutrition SuperHeavyweight Gainer 1000
ICOPRO Mega-Gro 10,000
Strength Systems USA Heavyweight Bulk-Up
Prolab N-Large
Prolab N-Large2
CytoSport Muscle Milk Gainer
Cybergenics Infiniti 3000
GNC Mass XXX
MuscleTech Mass-Tech
Ultimate Nutrition Massive Whey Gainer
Ultimate Nutrition Muscle Juice
Ultimate Nutrition IsoMass Xtreme Gainer
That list is not exhaustive, just a sample of those I've used during the 80s, 90s, and 2000s. I don't need them anymore.....and I stress...ANYMORE. Back in the day, I wouldn't have broken 200 lbs without them. Your body changes (even as a ectomorph) as you age. Like all supplements, weight gainers have improved VASTLY in quality throughout the years. I just wish I had today's weight gainers' quality, instead of some of those I used 20-30 years ago.
Here are a few more I used to take.
Prolab N-Large3
Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass
GNC Weight Gainer 1850
CytoSport Cyto Gainer (similar to Muscle Milk Gainer)
GNC Re-Built Mass
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Here are a few more I used to take.
Prolab N-Large3
Optimum Nutrition Serious Mass
GNC Weight Gainer 1850
CytoSport Cyto Gainer (similar to Muscle Milk Gainer)
GNC Re-Built Mass
No EAS Phosphagain 2? It promised steroid-like gains. You’ve almost had every 90-00’s gainer on the planet. I really enjoyed vanilla n-large 2 with milk and a scoop of peanut butter as a college kid
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No EAS Phosphagain 2? It promised steroid-like gains. You’ve almost had every 90-00’s gainer on the planet. I really enjoyed vanilla n-large 2 with milk and a scoop of peanut butter as a college kid
NOPE! I did try the original Phosphagain. Not too bad, but it was too expensive. Basically, once I found out it was just milk and egg protein with creatine in it, I simply went back to cheaper products. A year later, I tried Phosphagen HP by loading with it. I ended up putting on 12 pounds in over 2 weeks. That happens quite often to people who load with creatine for the first time.
I was in the military for 11 years. So, you're almost literally right about having almost every gainer on the planet. ;D
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NOPE! I did try the original Phosphagain. Not too bad, but it was too expensive. Basically, once I found out it was just milk and egg protein with creatine in it, I simply went back to cheaper products. A year later, I tried Phosphagen HP by loading with it. I ended up putting on 12 pounds in over 2 weeks. That happens quite often to people who load with creatine for the first time.
I was in the military for 11 years. So, you're almost literally right about having almost every gainer on the planet. ;D
I’m probably at fault here because I thought it was a gainer because it had “gain” in the name, but after further research, the calories weren’t that high. In conclusion, you HAVE had EVERY gainer on the planet my friend.
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I’m probably at fault here because I thought it was a gainer because it had “gain” in the name, but after further research, the calories weren’t that high.
That was done by design. Bill Phillips and EAS were part of a so-called supplement revolution, to get people away from using weight-gainers. So, he marketed his product to be a "lean-mass gainer" vs. a mere "weight gainer".
This was in direct opposition to people like John Parillo, who advocated up to 10,000 calories per day for bodybuilders to get super-massive. Parillo in the late 80s predicted that, one day, bodybuilders would compete at over 300 lbs. ripped.
That officially became reality in 1993, when Lou Ferrigno hit the Olympia stage at 316 lbs and placed 10th. The previous year he was a few biscuits shy of three bills onstage.
As stated earlier, Phosphagain was simply protein powder with 5 grams of creatine per serving. If you took it four times a day for a week, you'd be loading with creatine. And, as many will attest, the first time you load with creatine, you'll swear it's the second-coming of Christ.
But that mess cost $60 for a small 2-lb can. Now, Wal-Mart sells 2-lb jars of Body Fortress Whey Protein (with creatine in it) for $15.....or, if you find a clearance sale, you can get a 5-lb jug for $9 (as I did last week ;D ).
Heck, that was standard fare for all creatine supplements 25 years ago. A 300-gram jar would run you at least $60. Now, Wal-Mart has 400-grams of creatine for $9.
In conclusion, you HAVE had EVERY gainer on the planet my friend.
I try. ;D
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When I used to use those products I bought N-Large by Prolab. These days the only sports nutrition product I use is Isopure protein form Natures Best.
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Weight gainers? Now that's my specialty.. ;D
Of the gainers currently on the markets, the most likely one for which you can easily access may be Muscle Milk Gainer.
It tastes pretty good and mixes well (at least, the chocolate one does).
i was thinking of them. I think I’ll get theirs.
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Agreed. I actually went from a Bruce Lee ripped physique to looking like shit but thought I looked better because 10-15 pounds heavier. It gets harder and harder to keep the weight off every year.
if you are fat now I doubt it’s from weight gainers from 30 years ago.
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Add in 2 cans of sardines a day. Great nutrient profile and EPA DHA are crazy high. Compare O3s on the labels tho. Cheap ones are much lower.
I used to blend a boiled potato with egg whites and protein powder. ::) Lifts went up but so did my waist measurement. Thankfully I wised up pretty quick. Liquid calories are too easy to overconsume. Some guys just want to fill up a xxl shirt tho, and it must not matter to them what it's filled with.
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if you are fat now I doubt it’s from weight gainers from 30 years ago.
I'm not fat now but my point is that gaining bulk weight is a waste of time unless it's for a sport like football where gaining weight will make you more competitive. Bulking up for bodybuilding is just getting fat and makes you look worse.
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I'm not fat now but my point is that gaining bulk weight is a waste of time unless it's for a sport like football where gaining weight will make you more competitive. Bulking up for bodybuilding is just getting fat and makes you look worse.
That's where I disagree. Bulking up isn't a waste of time. For some (particularly ectomorphs), it's a necessity. As stated earlier, there's a time and place for it. When you're young, naturally skinny, and active in school or other things, you're not putting on any mass unless those calories go up.
While you should gradually increase your calories and try to limit any extra bodyfat, the reality is that you aren't going to put on pure muscle all of the time.
I needed them back in the day in my teens and 20s. But, I didn't need them in my 30s and certainly don't need them now.
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That's where I disagree. Bulking up isn't a waste of time. For some (particularly ectomorphs), it's a necessity. As stated earlier, there's a time and place for it. When you're young, naturally skinny, and active in school or other things, you're not putting on any mass unless those calories go up.
While you should gradually increase your calories and try to limit any extra bodyfat, the reality is that you aren't going to put on pure muscle all of the time.
I needed them back in the day in my teens and 20s. But, I didn't need them in my 30s and certainly don't need them now.
That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down. The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains. Nice theory but it's bullshit.
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That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down. The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains. Nice theory but it's bullshit.
Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.
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Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.
Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone. He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off. He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170. Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit. If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.
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Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone. He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off. He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170. Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit. If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.
I hear you,I always looked better at a lighter harder bodyweight.
I got up around 200 pounds which is fucking humongous for me and while I was stronger than shit,I looked like complete garbage.
I dropped that weight fast.
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I hear you,I always looked better at a lighter harder bodyweight.
I got up around 200 pounds which is fucking humongous for me and while I was stronger than shit,I looked like complete garbage.
I dropped that weight fast.
Same here.
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Take a guy who has a Bruce Lee physique (around 135lbs) and is ripped to the bone. He is small but looks very impressive with his shirt off. He goes on a bulk diet and gains 35 lbs up to 170. Now he is still small but is skinny fat and looks like shit. If he would have trained and gained just 5 lbs of muscle he would have been better off plus he never has to diet and lose weight.
Few, if any here, admire Bruce Lee's physique (this site is called GETBIG, not Get-Twig). They admire him because he could fight.
Who is going to continue training for years on end, when he goes from 135 lbs to 140 lbs in a year? All he's done is go from being a twig to being a slightly less smaller twig. I know that firsthand, having started training at 136, in June of 1989.
Yup,added bodyweight doesn`t necesarilly mean you gained any muscle.
You know if you've gained muscle when your strength goes up and you get the compliments from your friends and family.
Nobody puts on pure muscle all the time. Again, there's a fine line between putting on too much fat and limiting yourself to minuscule gains, out of obsession with being super-lean all the time.
The first time I broke 200-lb, I felt great and my classmates (and a few ladies) noticed my improvements. NOBODY accused me of being fat, and I certainly looked better than I did at 175, even if I wasn't quite as cut.
That's the old myth of bulking up and slimming down. The bulker thinks they have actually a bunch of muscle along with the fat and then they can just lose the fat and the muscle remains. Nice theory but it's bullshit.
Harldy! Ronnie, Dorian, and other mass monsters that have been revered on this forum (and others) were all three bills and change in their respective off-seasons.
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Few, if any here, admire Bruce Lee's physique (this site is called GETBIG, not Get-Twig). They admire him because he could fight.
Who is going to continue training for years on end, when he goes from 135 lbs to 140 lbs in a year? All he's done is go from being a twig to being a slightly less smaller twig. I know that firsthand, having started training at 136, in June of 1989.
You know if you've gained muscle when your strength goes up and you get the compliments from your friends and family.
Nobody puts on pure muscle all the time. Again, there's a fine line between putting on too much fat and limiting yourself to minuscule gains, out of obsession with being super-lean all the time.
The first time I broke 200-lb, I felt great and my classmates (and a few ladies) noticed my improvements. NOBODY accused me of being fat, and I certainly looked better than I did at 175, even if I wasn't quite as cut.
Harldy! Ronnie, Dorian, and other mass monsters that have been revered on this forum (and others) were all three bills and change in their respective off-seasons.
If you are lifting to look better to get women a Bruce Lee physique will get you farther than a thong warrior. Justin Bieber has women creaming their panties for him, competitive bodybuilders attract weird bodybuilder chicks on male hormones.
Keeping a lean, ripped physique has more to do with diet than exercising hours a day. Most people work out too much anyway.
Ronnie and Dorian are mass monsters because they use huge amounts of steroids and cutting drugs to get there. If you are using roids you can lose fat while keeping all of the muscle. Remember the pics of Lee Priest in his off season pics? If he were natural and lost the weight he would have been skinny fat. Naturals do not retain muscle while losing fat. Check out youtube videos from Nick's Strength and Power were he shows you how much mass a natural actually loses when dieting down for a contest.
The majority of posters on getbig are fat asses.
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I used to take this stuff called Meritene, I think it was for malnourished children. You got it at the drug store. Worked for sure.
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If you are lifting to look better to get women a Bruce Lee physique will get you farther than a thong warrior. Justin Bieber has women creaming their panties for him, competitive bodybuilders attract weird bodybuilder chicks on male hormones.
Lil Wayne and Rick Ross get women, creaming in their panties, too. Guess what? I don’t want to look like either of them or Bieber.
Keeping a lean, ripped physique has more to do with diet than exercising hours a day. Most people work out too much anyway.
Ronnie and Dorian are mass monsters because they use huge amounts of steroids and cutting drugs to get there. If you are using roids you can lose fat while keeping all of the muscle. Remember the pics of Lee Priest in his off season pics? If he were natural and lost the weight he would have been skinny fat. Naturals do not retain muscle while losing fat. Check out youtube videos from Nick's Strength and Power were he shows you how much mass a natural actually loses when dieting down for a contest.
The majority of posters on getbig are fat asses.
Anyone can retain muscle, if he gets his diet right, natural or not-so-natural.
If you’re losing muscle, it’s because you’re crash-dieting, dropping your calories too low and too quickly, and going nuts on cardio.
Dieting slowly and eating beef, instead of chicken, helped me big time. My waist is smaller; the abs pop more. BTW, whoever came up with the idea to separate egg whites from the yolks should be horse-whipped.
And I’m still moving the poundage that I was beforehand. On some lifts, I’m even a bit stronger.
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Lil Wayne and Rick Ross get women, creaming in their panties, too. Guess what? I don’t want to look like either of them or Bieber.
Anyone can retain muscle, if he gets his diet right, natural or not-so-natural.
If you’re losing muscle, it’s because you’re crash-dieting, dropping your calories too low and too quickly, and going nuts on cardio.
Dieting slowly and eating beef, instead of chicken, helped me big time. My waist is smaller; the abs pop more. BTW, whoever came up with the idea to separate egg whites from the yolks should be horse-whipped.
And I’m still moving the poundage that I was beforehand. On some lifts, I’m even a bit stronger.
A perfect example of how small an athlete really is when cutting is seen in boxers and MMA fighters. There are very few cut heavyweights and they are well over six feet tall. Most guys over 200 pounds drop to 140-170 when getting in fighting shape. Every natural who gets cut loses a lot of size. Bodybuilders from the era before steroids had a lot more fat than today's roid monsters. Look at pics of Grimek and Reeves compared to competitors today.
There is no such thing as not so natural. If you are using roids this doesn't apply to you.
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A perfect example of how small an athlete really is when cutting is seen in boxers and MMA fighters. There are very few cut heavyweights and they are well over six feet tall. Most guys over 200 pounds drop to 140-170 when getting in fighting shape. Every natural who gets cut loses a lot of size. Bodybuilders from the era before steroids had a lot more fat than today's roid monsters. Look at pics of Grimek and Reeves compared to competitors today.
There is no such thing as not so natural. If you are using roids this doesn't apply to you.
Boxers and MMA fighters starve and deplete themselves, because they fear being bumped up to the next class (where their opponents can outweigh them by up to 20 lbs).
Again, naturals and those who use anabolics lose lots of size for much the same reasons: They diet too severely (dropping their calories too drastically) and too quickly; they go bonkers on the cardio; and they eat "clean", as in eating foods that don't have enough nutrients to keep their muscles full.
That's why I made the comment about eggs. Whole eggs have always been part of my diet, whether I'm putting on mass or getting cut. Same goes for beef. I just use plain protein powders instead of weight gainers, because I don't need the gainers anymore.
But, I wouldn't have put on mass without them, back in the day......too skinny with too fast of a metabolism.
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This has been my opinion on bulks forever. Don’t let yourself get overly fat but don’t get obsessive about being ripped and trying to gain strength and muscle. Eat some extra you do not want to be in a deficit. You don’t want all that hard earned muscle that you’ve gained to be eaten just trying to stay ripped all year round.You don’t obsess over how many miles you have to drive to work and then only put that amount of gas in your tank hoping to just make it. And then on the way back home you put just enough in to make it back home. If you’re in a deficit in gas your car won’t make it. If you are in a deficit in calories just to try to stay very lean all year you’re also going to be eating up some muscle. One wanting to put on size stay in a calorie overload state but don’t become a fat pig. I think this is one of the reasons we don’t see the great bodybuilders that we used to. Everybody’s trying to stay ripped all the time and depend on drugs
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This has been my opinion on bulks forever. Don’t let yourself get overly fat but don’t get obsessive about being ripped and trying to gain strength and muscle. Eat some extra you do not want to be in a deficit. You don’t want all that hard earned muscle that you’ve gained to be eaten just trying to stay ripped all year round.You don’t obsess over how many miles you have to drive to work and then only put that amount of gas in your tank hoping to just make it. And then on the way back home you put just enough in to make it back home. If you’re in a deficit in gas your car won’t make it. If you are in a deficit in calories just to try to stay very lean all year you’re also going to be eating up some muscle. One wanting to put on size stay in a calorie overload state but don’t become a fat pig. I think this is one of the reasons we don’t see the great bodybuilders that we used to. Everybody’s trying to stay ripped all the time and depend on drugs
When I was a teenager I ate a lot of calories anyway and was cut. There was no reason to eat too many calories and lose the cut body and look like shit. I never had a cut diet (or needed one) until I was around 30.
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If you're 197 and natural then imo you do not need sugar shakes, sir, unless you're 7 feet tall or genetically elite. But what the hell do I know. Been training for years and wouldn't go near a stage, while you've got stars, so....
I doubt anyone on this board is teenager enough to need high calorie liquids.
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When I used to use those products I bought N-Large by Prolab. These days the only sports nutrition product I use is Isopure protein form Natures Best.
I loved Isopure. I used to get them on sale at GNC for as little as $0.50.
Nowadays, whey isolate is much cheaper. So IsoPure isn’t quite as available as it once was.
ProteinH20 and other products are replacing IsoPure, although the protein content is lower.