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Title: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2019, 06:01:44 PM
Not holding my breath for criminal charges.  I'll believe it when I see it.

BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
October 24, 2019 by Bonchie

U.S. Attorney General William Barr listens to concerns raised about public safety in rural Alaska during at a roundtable discussion at the Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium on Wednesday, May 29, 2019, in Anchorage, Alaska. Barr did not take questions from reporters in his first public appearance after former special prosecutor Robert Mueller spoke to reporters after resigning at the completion of his report into Russian interference into the 2016 election. (AP Photo/Mark Thiessen)

This is coming in the form of some hilarious spin from The New York Times, but the big news here is that my previous speculation was correct. The Barr-Durham probe into the origins of the Trump-Russia fiasco is now officially a criminal investigation.

Ryan Saavedra

@RealSaavedra
BREAKING: DOJ has shifted its administrative review of the origins of the Russia probe into a criminal investigation

The move gives John Durham the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/politics/john-durham-criminal-investigation.html …

President Trump has long sought to undermine the Russia investigation, attacking it as a hoax.
Justice Dept. Is Said to Shift to Criminal Inquiry of Russia Investigation’s Origins
The move is likely to open the attorney general to accusations that he is trying to deliver a political victory for President Trump.

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From the link above.

WASHINGTON — For more than two years, President Trump has repeatedly attacked the Russia investigation, portraying it as a hoax and illegal even months after the special counsel closed it. Now, Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into how it all began.

Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.

You can just imagine the spittle flying as they typed this. They really, really don’t want this to be looked into and by shifting it to a criminal investigation, the DOJ now has full power to compel witness testimony. That’s bad news for a lot of people who have been flailing about, insisting there’s no reason they should be investigated.

Of course, instead of just sticking to the facts, the unbiased reporters at the Times described the shift in this manner.

The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies.

Yes, that’s the problem here. Not that the DOJ has enough evidence to start criminally investigating people, but that it’s happening at all and some might be “alarmed.” Isn’t it weird how they had none of these reservations with the Obama administrations investigation into Trump, nor the Mueller investigation.

There’s not many more details in the article so we’ll have to wait to see what the next moves our, but a lot of people are going to be sweating a little more profusely tonight.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/24/breaking-barr-durham-investigation-now-officially-criminal-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR2G_JccF7JXAl7IxlsIjzBkMrTcfn4gRm_ngbwj8I4uobABmxYNQqrlXI0
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on October 24, 2019, 06:07:48 PM
LOL

Going to be fun watching this blow up in their face
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Skeletor on October 24, 2019, 06:12:25 PM
Not holding my breath for criminal charges.

Yes.
“All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others”.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Dos Equis on October 24, 2019, 06:15:27 PM
Yes.
“All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others”.

Sad but true.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 24, 2019, 06:17:23 PM
Not holding my breath for criminal charges.  I'll believe it when I see it.

BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
October 24, 2019 by Bonchie

U.S. Attorney General William Barr listens to concerns raised about public safety in rural Alaska during at a roundtable discussion at the Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium on Wednesday, May 29, 2019, in Anchorage, Alaska. Barr did not take questions from reporters in his first public appearance after former special prosecutor Robert Mueller spoke to reporters after resigning at the completion of his report into Russian interference into the 2016 election. (AP Photo/Mark Thiessen)

This is coming in the form of some hilarious spin from The New York Times, but the big news here is that my previous speculation was correct. The Barr-Durham probe into the origins of the Trump-Russia fiasco is now officially a criminal investigation.

Ryan Saavedra

@RealSaavedra
BREAKING: DOJ has shifted its administrative review of the origins of the Russia probe into a criminal investigation

The move gives John Durham the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/24/us/politics/john-durham-criminal-investigation.html …

President Trump has long sought to undermine the Russia investigation, attacking it as a hoax.
Justice Dept. Is Said to Shift to Criminal Inquiry of Russia Investigation’s Origins
The move is likely to open the attorney general to accusations that he is trying to deliver a political victory for President Trump.

nytimes.com
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2:09 PM - Oct 24, 2019
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2,364 people are talking about this

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From the link above.

WASHINGTON — For more than two years, President Trump has repeatedly attacked the Russia investigation, portraying it as a hoax and illegal even months after the special counsel closed it. Now, Mr. Trump’s own Justice Department has opened a criminal investigation into how it all began.

Justice Department officials have shifted an administrative review of the Russia investigation closely overseen by Attorney General William P. Barr to a criminal inquiry, according to two people familiar with the matter. The move gives the prosecutor running it, John H. Durham, the power to subpoena for witness testimony and documents, to impanel a grand jury and to file criminal charges.

You can just imagine the spittle flying as they typed this. They really, really don’t want this to be looked into and by shifting it to a criminal investigation, the DOJ now has full power to compel witness testimony. That’s bad news for a lot of people who have been flailing about, insisting there’s no reason they should be investigated.

Of course, instead of just sticking to the facts, the unbiased reporters at the Times described the shift in this manner.

The opening of a criminal investigation is likely to raise alarms that Mr. Trump is using the Justice Department to go after his perceived enemies.

Yes, that’s the problem here. Not that the DOJ has enough evidence to start criminally investigating people, but that it’s happening at all and some might be “alarmed.” Isn’t it weird how they had none of these reservations with the Obama administrations investigation into Trump, nor the Mueller investigation.

There’s not many more details in the article so we’ll have to wait to see what the next moves our, but a lot of people are going to be sweating a little more profusely tonight.

https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/24/breaking-barr-durham-investigation-now-officially-criminal-investigation/?fbclid=IwAR2G_JccF7JXAl7IxlsIjzBkMrTcfn4gRm_ngbwj8I4uobABmxYNQqrlXI0

Beat me to it
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 24, 2019, 06:18:41 PM
LOL

Going to be fun watching this blow up in their face

You mean like the three year investigation into "Russian collusion" Hahahahahaha
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 24, 2019, 07:46:19 PM
Rachel Madcow in total meltdown mode.

I see Safe Spaces in the near future for her and Strawboy again.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 24, 2019, 08:11:53 PM
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Straw, remember this face.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on October 24, 2019, 08:55:01 PM
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Straw, remember this face.

no thanks

I'll depend on you to remind me when it ever actually matters

good luck on this folly

how many Benghazi investigations were there again?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 24, 2019, 10:37:15 PM
U.S. Attorney John Durham's ongoing probe into potential FBI and Justice Department misconduct in the run-up to the 2016 election through the spring of 2017 has transitioned into a full-fledged criminal investigation.

Brennan
Clapper
McCabe
Comey
Clinton
Obama
Strzok
Page
Rice
Lynch
Holder
Biden
Schiff
Ohr
Ohr

All better get used to wearing orange jumpsuits

Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 03:49:23 AM
no thanks

I'll depend on you to remind me when it ever actually matters

good luck on this folly

how many Benghazi investigations were there again?

Those were congressional investigations. Congress can’t press charges. The Justice Department can.

That said, I’m going to go with Dos Equis on this one. I’ll believe it when I see criminal charges.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 05:19:57 AM
Exactly. I saw this and thought WTF?
 I thought Trump and his supporters said the Mueller Russia collusion investigation produced no clear proof.
You'd think that Team Trump would want that finding  to stand.
Now, they want to open it back up and question the legitimacy of those involved with THAT conclusion.
Makes no sense to me . Wasn't the Mueller probe into Russian collusion done properly?
Did they get the wrong result? I'm confused? ???



They’re not questioning the conclusions of the report. The issue is whether or not there was spying on the Trump campaign during the election and the legitimacy of the investigation in the first place.

Funny how Democrats or for any type of investigation except for one that might put you in a bad light.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: thelamefalsehood on October 25, 2019, 05:54:53 AM
Ok, so they're NOT questioning the conclusions right?
BUT, they are questioning the legitimacy of those involved in obtaining that conclusion? ???
Ok?

It's like saying a fart stinks BUT the farter's ass smells like roses. WTF? ;D

Makes no sense to me , but if they want to go that direction...have at it.

How does that not make sense? If you are falsely accused of rape by a woman only out to smear your good name and you are acquitted, wouldn’t you want her investigated and punished? So she doesn’t do it again? Accountability.........
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 06:52:34 AM
I agree with your "wrongly charged of rape" analogy.

BUT, using that logic :
1.Trump was NOT found guilty of Russian collusion , right?
2.BUT, your side wants to reverse  that and prove they were  incompetent.
3. Soooooo, investigating these people will  prove THEY did the wrong thing and  Trump WAS colluding?

OK? This is like a  Mr O winner, going back and questioning the competency of the judges who picked him to win. ::)


It’s not about incompetence. It’s about corruption. The FBI and the CIA being Weaponized to overthrow an election.

Everyone knows this whole deal was shady except liberals like you who can’t accept  it.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 07:35:08 AM
Howard, you can act like a retard and pretend you don’t understand the definition of illegal, but....a whole lot of Democrats are headed to prison and President Trump will win again.

The Democrat Party has become the Party of liars, crooks, pedos, retards, and snowflakes.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: mazrim on October 25, 2019, 09:37:58 AM
My guess, it'll be obvious what happened (it is already) but no one will be held accountable except maybe a few small fish that nobody has heard of. Or just light slaps on the wrist.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 25, 2019, 09:41:42 AM
FBI agents manipulated Flynn file, as Clapper allegedly urged 'kill shot': court filing
FoxNews Online ^ | October 25, 2019 | Brooke Singman
Posted on 10/25/2019, 11:44:47 AM by Cboldt

An explosive new court filing from Michael Flynn's legal team alleges that FBI agents manipulated official records of the former national security adviser's 2017 interview that led to him being charged with lying to investigators. It's Flynn's lawyers latest attempt to get the case thrown out. ...

Whether the combative filings will persuade the court in a case where Flynn has already pleaded guilty remains to be seen.

Prosecutors have strongly rejected claims they're hiding evidence, saying "the government has exceeded its discovery and disclosure obligations in this matter," including by providing Flynn with thousands of pages of documents.

Federal prosecutors earlier this month called the defense's filings a "fishing expedition."

"Since the beginning of their involvement, the defendant's new counsel, have sought to get the charges dropped, professed their client's actual innocence, and perpetuated conspiracy theories, all while stating that the defendant does not intend to withdraw his guilty plea," they wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 10:40:02 AM
I didn't vote for Trump, but  he won fair and square. I fully accept that
I understand there are conspiracy theories about the election being fixed.

I'm surprised you and other Trump voters won't accept the 2016 election result as valid.



Are you losing your mind? Why would I not accept it? My guy won. It was your people that launched an investigation into the election. The deep state, the democratic party and its water carriers in the media have been trying to stage a coup from the minute Trump got into office.

Finally, the Justice Department is doing something. As others have said, I’ll believe it when I actually see some indictments.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 25, 2019, 11:46:46 AM
I'll bet this guy drives the ladies wild with his handsome looks and youthful energy.




Translation - "he scares me and my party"
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 12:16:35 PM
My guess, it'll be obvious what happened (it is already) but no one will be held accountable except maybe a few small fish that nobody has heard of. Or just light slaps on the wrist.

My go to guy on this has been Dan Bongino. From listening to him, I gather that the head of the snake is Brennan. We’ll see if he’s held accountable.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 25, 2019, 01:50:54 PM
My go to guy on this has been Dan Bongino. From listening to him, I gather that the head of the snake is Brennan. We’ll see if he’s held accountable.


Colluding with a foreign govt to alter a USA election is treason. People are already starting to flip.

How many do you think would take the fall for Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe on this? None. Zero.

Who was in charge of all these people?
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 25, 2019, 01:59:51 PM

Colluding with a foreign govt to alter a USA election is treason. People are already starting to flip.

How many do you think would take the fall for Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe on this? None. Zero.

Who was in charge of all these people?

Also, out of all of these people, Brennan has been the most hostile on talk shows and on Twitter.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 04:46:41 PM
Also, out of all of these people, Brennan has been the most hostile on talk shows and on Twitter.

Watch the Anderson Cooper interview with James Clapper.

Clapper is literally shitting his pants on national television
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Skeletor on October 25, 2019, 04:52:25 PM
Watch the Anderson Cooper interview with James Clapper.

Clapper is literally shitting his pants on national television

National television? He lied to the Senate, under oath, but of course laws don't apply to people like him.

Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Board_SHERIF on October 25, 2019, 05:08:45 PM
Exactly. I saw this and thought WTF?
 I thought Trump and his supporters said the Mueller Russia collusion investigation produced no clear proof.
You'd think that Team Trump would want that finding  to stand.
Now, they want to open it back up and question the legitimacy of those involved with THAT conclusion.
Makes no sense to me . Wasn't the Mueller probe into Russian collusion done properly?
Did they get the wrong result? I'm confused? ???



you really scare me  :-\
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Dos Equis on October 25, 2019, 06:25:26 PM
Also, out of all of these people, Brennan has been the most hostile on talk shows and on Twitter.

Yep.  Accused President Trump of treason.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 06:27:20 PM
Yep.  Accused President Trump of treason.

Prison for the rest of his life.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on October 25, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Yep.  Accused President Trump of treason.

that's  because he is a traitor

Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Dos Equis on October 25, 2019, 06:33:28 PM
Prison for the rest of his life.

I'll believe it when I see it, but I'm starting to become a little optimistic that there might actually be some accountability for the Russia hoax.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 06:39:41 PM
that's  because he is a traitor



Three years is a long time to pout, libidiot.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on October 25, 2019, 06:42:51 PM
Three years is a long time to pout, libidiot.

pointing out that Trump is a TRAITOR is stating and obvious fact

touch shit if you think that sounds like pouting

BTW - you should definitely get really excited about Barr-Durham investigation

Definitely get your hope up Trumptard

Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 25, 2019, 06:51:35 PM
pointing out that Trump is a TRAITOR is stating and obvious fact

touch shit if you think that sounds like pouting

BTW - you should definitely get really excited about Barr-Durham investigation

Definitely get your hope up Trumptard


Lame opinion does not equal obvious fact...even if you hold your breath and stomp your feet.

Durham and Barr are going to clean house and put the lying Democrat cowards in prison.

And I will laugh my ass off for the next 5 years of Donald Trump’s Presidency.

Libidiot.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 25, 2019, 09:41:03 PM
Also, out of all of these people, Brennan has been the most hostile on talk shows and on Twitter.


When you have such a partisan press it's obvious when a dem gets in trouble they get MORE air time.

I can't be the only one that notices that when Hillary seems to be getting bad press she goes on these shows. It's like they feel if they are in public more it makes the legality of actions less.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 26, 2019, 10:22:58 AM
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Thin Lizzy on October 26, 2019, 01:47:40 PM
Watch the Anderson Cooper interview with James Clapper.

Clapper is literally shitting his pants on national television

With Flynn’s lawyer, Powell, showing some solid evidence that Flynn was framed, the IG report about to drop, and this, seems like the worm is starting to turn.

Clapper stammers through segment after launch of DOJ criminal probe, damning doc drop


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/10/25/clapper-stammers-through-segment-after-launch-of-doj-criminal-probe-damning-doc-drop-843994
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: SOMEPARTS on October 26, 2019, 07:40:19 PM
This is an obvious political stunt by AG Barr and team Trump.
Their goal is to get the attention away from the current impeachment inquiry.
I understand that and understand why they played this card.
This will backfire big time , Trump will be impeached for abuse of power and
then it's up the senate to vote him in or out.

I still think Trump will resign before it goes to the senate vote.




There has not been a more incorrect post on here this year. Wowza.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: JustPlaneJane on October 26, 2019, 08:10:54 PM
This is an obvious political stunt by AG Barr and team Trump.
Their goal is to get the attention away from the current impeachment inquiry.
I understand that and understand why they played this card.
This will backfire big time , Trump will be impeached for abuse of power and
then it's up the senate to vote him in or out.

I still think Trump will resign before it goes to the senate vote.



The Barr, Durham, and Horowitz investigations started months before Schiff and Pelosi started their fake impeachment hoax.

For over two years during the Mueller investigation Adam Schiff claimed he had information beyond that in the report that would prove Russian collusion. And just like clockwork he was 100% full of shit.

This investigation is going to unearth criminal activity all the way up the Obama Administration right to useless black Barry Sotero himself. This time these scumbags should end up in prison, but they probably won’t because of brain dead fucks like you.

President Donald Trump should be given another complete four years in office to make up for the four years the Democrats have wasted with their obstruction and lies
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Moontrane on October 26, 2019, 08:23:01 PM
The Barr, Durham, and Horowitz investigations started months before Schiff and Pelosi started their fake impeachment hoax.

For over two years during the Mueller investigation Adam Schiff claimed he had information beyond that in the report that would prove Russian collusion. And just like clockwork he was 100% full of shit.

This investigation is going to unearth criminal activity all the way up the Obama Administration right to useless black Barry Sotero himself. This time these scumbags should end up in prison, but they probably won’t because of brain dead fucks like you.

President Donald Trump should be given another complete four years in office to make up for the four years the Democrats have wasted with their obstruction and lies

Jane, the Left will continue their attacks on Trump through his second term.  Like the scorpion stinging the frog,
resulting in its own demise, they have no choice; it's their nature.

I believe that they need a bad recession (time's running out :D) AND a major overseas conflict (not that either would be Trump's fault)
to beat this incumbent.
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on May 18, 2020, 06:22:26 PM
Hey Trumptards

How is the Durham investigation coming along ?

Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: IroNat on May 19, 2020, 03:49:52 AM
Hey Trumptards

How is the Durham investigation coming along ?



Bull Durham?

(https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1400/1*NnK8YIg4Wau-ANGz0sTLfg.jpeg)


Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Skeletor on May 29, 2020, 08:32:31 PM
New FBI document confirms the Trump campaign was investigated without justification

Late last week the FBI document that started the Trump-Russia collusion fiasco was publicly released. It hasn’t received a lot of attention but it should, because not too long from now this document likely will be blown up and placed on an easel as Exhibit A in a federal courtroom.

The prosecutor, U.S. Attorney John Durham, will rightly point out that the document that spawned three years of political misery fails to articulate a single justifiable reason for starting the “Crossfire Hurricane” investigation. 

Those of us who have speculated there was insufficient cause for beginning the investigation could not have imagined the actual opening document was this feeble. It is as if it were written by someone who had no experience as an FBI agent.

Keep in mind the FBI cannot begin to investigate anyone, especially a U.S. citizen or entity, without first creating a document that lists the reasonably suspicious factors that would legally justify the investigation. That’s FBI 101, taught Day 1 at the FBI Academy at Quantico, Va.

To the untrained eye, the FBI document that launched Crossfire Hurricane can be confusing, and it may be difficult to discern how it might be inadequate. To the trained eye, however, it is a train wreck. There are a number of reasons why it is so bad. Two main ones are offered below (if you would like to follow along, the document is here):

First, the document is oddly constructed. In a normal, legitimate FBI Electronic Communication, or EC, there would be a “To” and a “From” line. The Crossfire Hurricane EC has only a “From” line; it is from a part of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division whose contact is listed as Peter Strzok. The EC was drafted also by Peter Strzok. And, finally, it was approved by Peter Strzok. Essentially, it is a document created by Peter Strzok, approved by Peter Strzok, and sent from Peter Strzok to Peter Strzok.

On that basis alone, the document is an absurdity, violative of all FBI protocols and, therefore, invalid on its face. An agent cannot approve his or her own case; that would make a mockery of the oversight designed to protect Americans. Yet, for this document, Peter Strzok was pitcher, catcher, batter and umpire.

In addition, several names are listed in a “cc” or copy line; all are redacted, save Strzok’s, who, for some reason, felt it necessary to copy himself on a document he sent from himself to himself. 

Names on an FBI document are always listed in cascading fashion, with the most senior at the top and on down to the least senior. On this EC, Strzok is listed last, so the redacted names should be more senior to him. Those names could well include then-FBI Director James Comey, then-Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and then-Counterintelligence Assistant Director Bill Priestap. The document also establishes these redacted names as “case participants.”

Second, the Crossfire Hurricane case was opened as a Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA) investigation. A FARA investigation involves a criminal violation of law — in this case, a negligent or intentional failure to register with the U.S. government after being engaged by a foreign country to perform services on its behalf — that is punishable by fines and imprisonment. It is rarely investigated.

In a normal EC opening a FARA case, we should expect to see a list of reasons why the FBI believes individuals associated with a U.S. presidential campaign had been engaged by the Russian government to represent and advocate that government’s goals.

This, however, was no normal EC. Try as we might to spot them, those reasons are not found anywhere in the document. Despite redactions, it has been fairly well established that an Australian diplomat, Andrew Downer, met a low-level Trump campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, in a London bar for drinks; Downer then reported the conversation, which eventually made its way to U.S. officials in London.

The Strzok EC quotes verbatim an email authored by Downer. In it, Downer claims Papadopoulos “suggested” to him that the Trump team had received “some kind of suggestion” of assistance from Russia regarding information damaging to Hillary Clinton and President Obama. In other words, a suggestion of a suggestion.

Strzok apparently took this nebulous reporting by Downer and then leapt to the dubious conclusion that Papadopoulos and unnamed others were engaged by the Russians to act as foreign agents on Russia’s behalf. This, despite Downer also offering two exculpatory statements in the same email: 1) It was “unclear” how the Trump campaign might have reacted to the Russian claims and 2) the Russians likely were going to do what they were going to do with the information whether anyone in the Trump campaign cooperated with them or not.

Strzok then concludes the EC by moving the goalposts. He writes that Crossfire Hurricane is being opened to determine if unspecified “individual(s)” associated with the Trump campaign are “witting of and/or coordinating activities” — also unspecified — “with the Government of Russia.” He doesn’t even mention Papadopoulos.

Ultimately, there was no attempt by Strzok to articulate any factors that address the elements of FARA. He couldn’t, because there are none. Instead, there was a weak attempt to allege some kind of cooperation with Russians by unknown individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign, again, with no supporting facts listed.

What this FBI document clearly establishes is that Crossfire Hurricane was an illicit, made-up investigation lacking a shred of justifying predication, sprung from the mind of someone who despised Donald Trump, and then blessed by inexperienced leadership at the highest levels who harbored their own now well-established biases. 

To paraphrase a fired FBI director: No reasonable FBI counterintelligence squad supervisor in the field would have approved and opened that Strzok EC. They know the rules too well.

Instead, the nation was left with an investigation of a presidential campaign that had no legitimate predication; that spawned a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act intercept of a U.S. citizen that had no legitimate predication; that resulted in a confrontation with a new administration’s national security adviser that had no legitimate predication; and, finally, that led to an expensive special counsel investigation that had no legitimate predication. No pattern-recognition software needed here.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/499586-new-fbi-document-confirms-the-trump-campaign-was-investigated-without
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Straw Man on May 30, 2020, 04:27:41 PM
Title: Re: BREAKING: Barr-Durham Investigation Is Now Officially A Criminal Investigation
Post by: Dos Equis on June 09, 2020, 06:48:26 PM
Patience.  Long article but very informative. 

Barr says familiar names among those DOJ is investigating in Durham probe, calls findings 'very troubling'
By Gregg Re | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/barr-says-familiar-names-among-those-doj-is-investigating-in-durham-probe
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Russiagate: Special Counsel Durham's Motion to Unseal Steele 'Primary Source' Evidence is Granted
thekylebecker.substack.c om ^ | 9/13/2022 | kyle becker
Posted on 9/13/2022, 11:15:22 PM by bitt

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Special Counsel John Durham's request to unseal a motion in limine pertaining to the trial of Igor Danchenko, who has been identifed as the "primary source" behind ex-British spy Christopher Steele's dossier, has been granted.

A motion in limine is a "pretrial motion asking that certain evidence be found inadmissible, and that it not be referred to or offered at trial," according to Cornell's Legal Information Institute. The Special Counsel's motion to include the evidence against Danchenko reveals that the FBI was aware of his activities as early as July 2016.

"Beginning in or about July 2016 and continuing through December 2016, the FBI began receiving a series of reports from former British government employee Christopher Steele and his firm, Orbis Business Solutions, that contained derogatory information on then-candidate Trump concerning Trump's purported ties to Russia," the motion states.

"Earlier that year, Perkins Coie, a U.S.-based international law firm, acting as counsel to the Hillary Clinton Presidential campaign, had retained Fusion GPS, a U.S.-based investigative firm, to conduct research on Trump and his associates. In or about June 2016, Fusion GPS, in turn, retained Steele and Orbis to investigate Trump's purported ties to Russia. The Steele Reports played an important role in applications that FBI personnel prepared and submitted to obtain warrants pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA") targeting Carter Page, a United States citizen who for a period of time had been an advisor to then-candidate Trump."

"Over a fairly lengthy period of time, the FBI attempted to investigate, vet, and analyze the Steele Reports but ultimately was not able to confirm or corroborate most of their substantive allegations," the motion added. "In the context of these efforts, the FBI learned that Christopher Steele relied primarily on a U.S.-based Russian national, the defendant Igor Danchenko ('Danchenko' or the 'defendant'), to collect information that ultimately formed the core allegations found in the Steele Reports. From January 2017 through October 2020, and as part of its efforts to determine the truth or falsity of specific information in the Steele Reports, the FBI conducted multiple interviews of the defendant regarding, among other things, the information that he had provided to Steele."

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