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Irritating guy (Samir)...
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The names have been changed but the exercises remain the same.
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Met him!! Good guy!! Very knowable!!
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Thinly veiled supplement ad, haha. Aren't all these exercise videos just infomercials :)
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When Yates started those almost upright lat rows it started an avalanche of guys doing it the same. Who could argue with Yate's amazing back? I like to them like Samir, Franco and Arnold in the old school way. More bent over standing on a bench or a raised platform so the plates don't hit the ground. The lower back is in more dangerous position than a somewhat upright lat row but I feel it more in the lats.
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Priceless training advices in that video.
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When Yates started those almost upright lat rows it started an avalanche of guys doing it the same. Who could argue with Yate's amazing back? I like to them like Samir, Franco and Arnold in the old school way. More bent over standing on a bench or a raised platform so the plates don't hit the ground. The lower back is in more dangerous position than a somewhat upright lat row but I feel it more in the lats.
you don΄t Need to stand up as high as yates but above parallel. I know what you are saying but i also think one arm DB rows are better if you have lower back issues.
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I really like Samir, he is sincere, energetic and ranks among the very best Olympians ever.
But his posture looks fooked!
He was known for his legendary pulling power, which still above average, as he is so comfortable explosively rowing 135 pounds (baby weight but still he is handling it so nicely)
Poor John could hardly bend over after hernia surgery.
What about yellow cuckboy, he is getting 101 from two legends of the sport, but he seems more occupied with wrist straps and creatine!
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I really like Samir, he is sincere, energetic and ranks among the very best Olympians ever.
But his posture looks fooked!
He was known for his legendary pulling power, which still above average, as he is so comfortable explosively rowing 135 pounds (baby weight but still he is handling it so nicely)
Poor John could hardly bend over after hernia surgery.
What about yellow cuckboy, he is getting 101 from two legends of the sport, but he seems more occupied with wrist straps and creatine!
F*cking millenial.
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When Yates started those almost upright lat rows it started an avalanche of guys doing it the same. Who could argue with Yate's amazing back? I like to them like Samir, Franco and Arnold in the old school way. More bent over standing on a bench or a raised platform so the plates don't hit the ground. The lower back is in more dangerous position than a somewhat upright lat row but I feel it more in the lats.
True. When Yates was at the stage where he really build foundation for those lats, he did bend over rows like everybody else. After he tear his biceps etc. muscles, he start to do it standing upright. It doesn't matter, if you take same amounts same gear than he did, because your muscles grow even without exercise. BUT if you are natty etc. ordinary gym goer, you are just endangering your health by those. You see, that full bend is actually safer, because you can't use so heavy weights, because you use just your lats to lift them ;D
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True. When Yates was at the stage where he really build foundation for those lats, he did bend over rows like everybody else. After he tear his biceps etc. muscles, he start to do it standing upright. It doesn't matter, if you take same amounts same gear than he did, because your muscles grow even without exercise. BUT if you are natty etc. ordinary gym goer, you are just endangering your health by those. You see, that full bend is actually safer, because you can't use so heavy weights, because you use just your lats to lift them ;D
you have to also remember he did other exercises too such as one arm Hammer strength rows. so which exercise contributed the most to his lats?
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True. When Yates was at the stage where he really build foundation for those lats, he did bend over rows like everybody else. After he tear his biceps etc. muscles, he start to do it standing upright. It doesn't matter, if you take same amounts same gear than he did, because your muscles grow even without exercise. BUT if you are natty etc. ordinary gym goer, you are just endangering your health by those. You see, that full bend is actually safer, because you can't use so heavy weights, because you use just your lats to lift them ;D
great point ropo, what is funny is mike mentzer even said dorian didnt train true heavy duty style, he said dorian did to manny ballistic movements i have some old videos of mentzer training, he did very slow controlled reps, and not super heavy weights
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great point ropo, what is funny is mike mentzer even said dorian didnt train true heavy duty style, he said dorian did to manny ballistic movements i have some old videos of mentzer training, he did very slow controlled reps, and not super heavy weights
Mentzer was on Speed most of the time.. i can't listen to the mans rants About Training once every three weeks ! He was a strange man Maybe for some a Genius. for me a radical idiot.
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Samir was, is, and always be a fun guy......just love him !! ;D 8) 8)
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you have to also remember he did other exercises too such as one arm Hammer strength rows. so which exercise contributed the most to his lats?
Dorians forearms, calves, and lats were his genetic strong points. Almost any basic type of training was going to yield stellar results. So the barbell row, hammer row and pulldowns probably couldve been used interchangeably.
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Mentzer was on Speed most of the time.. i can't listen to the mans rants About Training once every three weeks ! He was a strange man Maybe for some a Genius. for me a radical idiot.
Not to mention his completely wrecked body in his late 40's. Both Mentzer brothers could barely walk the last few years before their deaths. Extreme heavy training, plus smoking and drinking, plus Meth equals a bad result.
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The one thing that the bodybuilders with the best late have in common is that they all did machine pullovers. This machine is by far the best way to isolate the late, especially in the critical upper stretched out part of the range of motion that engages the lower lats. Rows only hit the upper lats at the end of shoulder extension, and pullups/pulldowns require a very good mind-muscle connection with the lower lats in order for one to engage the lower lats instead of the upper lats.
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The one thing that the bodybuilders with the best late have in common is that they all did machine pullovers. This machine is by far the best way to isolate the late, especially in the critical upper stretched out part of the range of motion that engages the lower lats. Rows only hit the upper lats at the end of shoulder extension, and pullups/pulldowns require a very good mind-muscle connection with the lower lats in order for one to engage the lower lats instead of the upper lats.
That exercise is also why so many old time bodybuilders fucked themselves up as well. I've known of people who tore cartilage in their ribs and several who severely injured their shoulders doing this exercise. Brooks Kubik comes to mind.
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Dorians forearms, calves, and lats were his genetic strong points. Almost any basic type of training was going to yield stellar results. So the barbell row, hammer row and pulldowns probably couldve been used interchangeably.
Yes..he did sort of say this at a Seminar when asked About Dumbell rows & Barbell rows where he said "either or". Of Course in Blood & Guts he did one arm rows & Barbell rows. you are correct .
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you have to also remember he did other exercises too such as one arm Hammer strength rows. so which exercise contributed the most to his lats?
Which exercise? All those, which he was using to build the foundation for his back development. What I mean by that? It is quite simple: modern day bodybuilders skip entirely that stage, where you shoud learn to focus, a mind-muscle connection, good form and perfect range of motion. As Samir says in the video: That how you do the exercise, rules how you will look. Guy at the video was doing lot for upper back, so he didn't really have lats at all, just very big armpits. What Samir try to teach him was technique, which force lats lower attachment expand downwards. After saying that there will be dozens who don't believe that it is even possible, but it is. There is nothing new about it, guys like Arnold, Sergio etc. try to teach it to the new bodybuilders, but because it is hard and takes time, no one do it. It is much easier to try look strong while doing Yates rows with insane overloads and 2" range of motion ;D
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Which exercise? All those, which he was using to build the foundation for his back development. What I mean by that? It is quite simple: modern day bodybuilders skip entirely that stage, where you shoud learn to focus, a mind-muscle connection, good form and perfect range of motion. As Samir says in the video: That how you do the exercise, rules how you will look. Guy at the video was doing lot for upper back, so he didn't really have lats at all, just very big armpits. What Samir try to teach him was technique, which force lats lower attachment expand downwards. After saying that there will be dozens who don't believe that it is even possible, but it is. There is nothing new about it, guys like Arnold, Sergio etc. try to teach it to the new bodybuilders, but because it is hard and takes time, no one do it. It is much easier to try look strong while doing Yates rows with insane overloads and 2" range of motion ;D
my Point is.. if you can get maximum development from 1 exercise why not just do more sets with that 1 exercise? which exercise in your opinion out of all he did was most productive?
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great point ropo, what is funny is mike mentzer even said dorian didnt train true heavy duty style, he said dorian did to manny ballistic movements i have some old videos of mentzer training, he did very slow controlled reps, and not super heavy weights
Mike is referring the heavy duty training method which he used. He didn't realize that Yates have developed his own version for his needs, and it is even heavier duty than it was in his days. Marko Savolainen used his variation, calling it super heavy duty. Who of these guys are right? All of them, in their own way.
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my Point is.. if you can get maximum development from 1 exercise why not just do more sets with that 1 exercise? which exercise in your opinion out of all he did was most productive?
But you can't. If you want 1. Width 2 Shape 3. Thickness for your lats, you need 3 different exercises, aka you need to exhaust the muscle more than from one angle. You need high pulls, low pulls/rows and T-bar / bent over rows or some variations of these basic exercises.
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But you can't. If you want 1. Width 2 Shape 3. Thickness for your lats, you need 3 different exercises, aka you need to exhaust the muscle more than from one angle. You need high pulls, low pulls/rows and T-bar / bent over rows or some variations of these basic exercises.
the shape of your muscle is genetic, you cant change its shape, you would need to move the insertion points
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the shape of your muscle is genetic, you cant change its shape, you would need to move the insertion points
THIS a muscle moves to its Point of origin.
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the shape of your muscle is genetic, you cant change its shape, you would need to move the insertion points
Well, you are wrong. Fact is that human body can adopt various things with no problems at all, and that is the fact which old school bodybuilders used all the time. For example expanding their ribcage. If you look side chest poses of those old school bodybuilders, it is quite different than it is done by modern bodybuilders. You can blame the genetics all you want, but fact is that by doing things right, you can change shape of your muscles. Those insertion points are quite similar with all of us, but you don't have to move them. If you change your approach to the excercise, the shape of the muscle will change.
If you don't believe this, just try it by yourself. All you need is good mind/muscle- connection, good form and a perfect range of motion. As Samir said, if you don't feel where the exercise goes, you do it wrong ;D
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Well, you are wrong. Fact is that human body can adopt various things with no problems at all, and that is the fact which old school bodybuilders used all the time. For example expanding their ribcage. If you look side chest poses of those old school bodybuilders, it is quite different than it is done by modern bodybuilders. You can blame the genetics all you want, but fact is that by doing things right, you can change shape of your muscles. Those insertion points are quite similar with all of us, but you don't have to move them. If you change your approach to the excercise, the shape of the muscle will change.
If you don't believe this, just try it by yourself. All you need is good mind/muscle- connection, good form and a perfect range of motion. As Samir said, if you don't feel where the exercise goes, you do it wrong ;D
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Well, you are wrong. Fact is that human body can adopt various things with no problems at all, and that is the fact which old school bodybuilders used all the time. For example expanding their ribcage. If you look side chest poses of those old school bodybuilders, it is quite different than it is done by modern bodybuilders. You can blame the genetics all you want, but fact is that by doing things right, you can change shape of your muscles. Those insertion points are quite similar with all of us, but you don't have to move them. If you change your approach to the excercise, the shape of the muscle will change.
If you don't believe this, just try it by yourself. All you need is good mind/muscle- connection, good form and a perfect range of motion. As Samir said, if you don't feel where the exercise goes, you do it wrong ;D
Im afraid science tells you that simply isnt true, after adolescence once your size is fixed its not possible to expand your ribcage
do you think Al Beckles could have made his arms look like Larry Scotts with exercises?
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Listen good ..you can΄t Change the shape of a muscle or hit each heads , regardless of what Champs say. You curl a barbell or even if you hammer curl it will hit the full muscle. I know..the brachialis
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Im afraid science tells you that simply isnt true, after adolescence once your size is fixed its not possible to expand your ribcage
do you think Al Beckles could have made his arms look like Larry Scotts with exercises?
exactly, you can΄t expand it
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find an exercise that works for you..concentrate on that exercise, do not waste time on multiple exercises that will "dilute" your Workout.
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find an exercise that works for you..concentrate on that exercise, do not waste time on multiple exercises that will "dilute" your Workout.
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=658438.0
based on the pareto principle 20% of your excercises result in 80% of your gains, use the ones that you feel working and you can pretty much negate the rest
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'Visualize your biceps as mountain peaks and it will be so! I say to that mountain: "Move!", and it shall move.' -- Jesus Schwarzenegger
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ObeXygTFqqU/UeAYrxPGvJI/AAAAAAAAXDQ/IfKkKAiNLOA/s1600/Grand+Teton+National+Park+Wallpapers+%25287%2529.jpg)
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Bent barbell rows develop the whole back even some chest contraction too
Pullups work upper back and width and chest and tris n bis too, but pullups do not work u like bent bb rows
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Old school or DY style
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Old school or DY style
Old-school....especially with a narrower grip. My back has improved significantly, particularly when I modeled the form of another back legend..."THE JETMAN" Tony Pearson.
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Im afraid science tells you that simply isnt true, after adolescence once your size is fixed its not possible to expand your ribcage
do you think Al Beckles could have made his arms look like Larry Scotts with exercises?
Just google "expanding ribcage" and you see, that it isn't my idea. Point is that it is quite easy to try by yourself, but those who argue against it, doesn't bother to do so. Yes, Beckless would have different pair of biceps, if he would have been training them differently. And you don't believe this because you have tried it by few times, and it didn't do nothing for you?
I have seen this thousands of times: Let say I have knowledge about these things by experience, by study, by reading hundred of books. Not really, but just say so for the argument. I tell the bloke A. how to do preacher curls proper way. I show him, I draw him a picture about it etc. and after a week, I find him to do it completely wrong way. Why?
Because it is so fking hard to understand, that knowledge overrules beliefs what you have been carrying through your life. If you don't see some instant miraculous improvement on your muscle, you go back to your old technique, because it make you feel good. But if that bloke continue to do what I tell him to do, there will be change in the muscle. It doesn't happen overnight, it take some time. How do I prove this? I can't, because you have your prejudices, which tell you that it can't be done. So simple.
But how about this: You have only one pair of pecs, but to get them grow, you do flat bench, incline, decline bench with barbell, dumbbells, you do flyes with dumbbells and cable etc. etc. to hit the muscle at different angles, and make your upper chest grow. It is one muscle, and you believe that you can train only upper chest to make it more visible? And you can, just same reasons why you can make lower lats grow by chancing your approach to the training. Difference is that it is easy to do with pecs, and difficult to do with lats. What I mean is if you can do the bench presses, you can do all the variations, because they aren't so much different. How about back? If you know how to pull chins, will it guarantee that you can do proper T-bar row? Nope. So different angle, so different grip, so different technique and range of motion. So if you have perfect technique for chins and T-bar, you are still missing plenty of angles you should be able to hit to make your lats grow to their full potential.
And by my empirical study of +30 years, that is too much for something like 95% of bodybuilders. We are just apes, we tend to do what comes easy, and what make us feel good. Most of us measure development just by weight added to the load we lift, while it is completely wrong viewpoint. It isn't about weight, it is all about what the weight and technique, range of motion will do to your muscle..If you use good technique and full range of motion, you can't lift so much, but it works far better to build muscle. In the other hand, if you use insane weigts, grunt and yell while lifting those ridiculously short reps, amateurs and fools think you are more masculine, and that tickles your ego nice way. So you choose that over the time consuming and fking hard work you need to accomplish to make your lower lats grow.
And that my friend, that is what modern bodybuilding is all about: Finding easy way to accomplish same goals what old shcool bodybuiilders did the hard way ;D
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Just google "expanding ribcage" and you see, that it isn't my idea. Point is that it is quite easy to try by yourself, but those who argue against it, doesn't bother to do so. Yes, Beckless would have different pair of biceps, if he would have been training them differently. And you don't believe this because you have tried it by few times, and it didn't do nothing for you?
I have seen this thousands of times: Let say I have knowledge about these things by experience, by study, by reading hundred of books. Not really, but just say so for the argument. I tell the bloke A. how to do preacher curls proper way. I show him, I draw him a picture about it etc. and after a week, I find him to do it completely wrong way. Why?
Because it is so fking hard to understand, that knowledge overrules beliefs what you have been carrying through your life. If you don't see some instant miraculous improvement on your muscle, you go back to your old technique, because it make you feel good. But if that bloke continue to do what I tell him to do, there will be change in the muscle. It doesn't happen overnight, it take some time. How do I prove this? I can't, because you have your prejudices, which tell you that it can't be done. So simple.
But how about this: You have only one pair of pecs, but to get them grow, you do flat bench, incline, decline bench with barbell, dumbbells, you do flyes with dumbbells and cable etc. etc. to hit the muscle at different angles, and make your upper chest grow. It is one muscle, and you believe that you can train only upper chest to make it more visible? And you can, just same reasons why you can make lower lats grow by chancing your approach to the training. Difference is that it is easy to do with pecs, and difficult to do with lats. What I mean is if you can do the bench presses, you can do all the variations, because they aren't so much different. How about back? If you know how to pull chins, will it guarantee that you can do proper T-bar row? Nope. So different angle, so different grip, so different technique and range of motion. So if you have perfect technique for chins and T-bar, you are still missing plenty of angles you should be able to hit to make your lats grow to their full potential.
And by my empirical study of +30 years, that is too much for something like 95% of bodybuilders. We are just apes, we tend to do what comes easy, and what make us feel good. Most of us measure development just by weight added to the load we lift, while it is completely wrong viewpoint. It isn't about weight, it is all about what the weight and technique, range of motion will do to your muscle..If you use good technique and full range of motion, you can't lift so much, but it works far better to build muscle. In the other hand, if you use insane weigts, grunt and yell while lifting those ridiculously short reps, amateurs and fools think you are more masculine, and that tickles your ego nice way. So you choose that over the time consuming and fking hard work you need to accomplish to make your lower lats grow.
And that my friend, that is what modern bodybuilding is all about: Finding easy way to accomplish same goals what old shcool bodybuiilders did the hard way ;D
dude you gotta be trolling !! :D
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Just google "expanding ribcage" and you see, that it isn't my idea. Point is that it is quite easy to try by yourself, but those who argue against it, doesn't bother to do so. Yes, Beckless would have different pair of biceps, if he would have been training them differently. And you don't believe this because you have tried it by few times, and it didn't do nothing for you?
I have seen this thousands of times: Let say I have knowledge about these things by experience, by study, by reading hundred of books. Not really, but just say so for the argument. I tell the bloke A. how to do preacher curls proper way. I show him, I draw him a picture about it etc. and after a week, I find him to do it completely wrong way. Why?
Because it is so fking hard to understand, that knowledge overrules beliefs what you have been carrying through your life. If you don't see some instant miraculous improvement on your muscle, you go back to your old technique, because it make you feel good. But if that bloke continue to do what I tell him to do, there will be change in the muscle. It doesn't happen overnight, it take some time. How do I prove this? I can't, because you have your prejudices, which tell you that it can't be done. So simple.
But how about this: You have only one pair of pecs, but to get them grow, you do flat bench, incline, decline bench with barbell, dumbbells, you do flyes with dumbbells and cable etc. etc. to hit the muscle at different angles, and make your upper chest grow. It is one muscle, and you believe that you can train only upper chest to make it more visible? And you can, just same reasons why you can make lower lats grow by chancing your approach to the training. Difference is that it is easy to do with pecs, and difficult to do with lats. What I mean is if you can do the bench presses, you can do all the variations, because they aren't so much different. How about back? If you know how to pull chins, will it guarantee that you can do proper T-bar row? Nope. So different angle, so different grip, so different technique and range of motion. So if you have perfect technique for chins and T-bar, you are still missing plenty of angles you should be able to hit to make your lats grow to their full potential.
And by my empirical study of +30 years, that is too much for something like 95% of bodybuilders. We are just apes, we tend to do what comes easy, and what make us feel good. Most of us measure development just by weight added to the load we lift, while it is completely wrong viewpoint. It isn't about weight, it is all about what the weight and technique, range of motion will do to your muscle..If you use good technique and full range of motion, you can't lift so much, but it works far better to build muscle. In the other hand, if you use insane weigts, grunt and yell while lifting those ridiculously short reps, amateurs and fools think you are more masculine, and that tickles your ego nice way. So you choose that over the time consuming and fking hard work you need to accomplish to make your lower lats grow.
And that my friend, that is what modern bodybuilding is all about: Finding easy way to accomplish same goals what old shcool bodybuiilders did the hard way ;D
great , so with the benefit of your personal experience, post a picture of your biceps now and then use a few different excercises and then you will be able to show us the change in your bicep shape next year..
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great , so with the benefit of your personal experience, post a picture of your biceps now and then use a few different excercises and then you will be able to show us the change in your bicep shape next year..
And what exactly I would gain by doing it? Respect of the bunch of the most moronic ass wipes on the planet?
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And what exactly I would gain by doing it? Respect of the bunch of the most moronic ass wipes on the planet?
you would be able to prove the impossible..
wouldn't that be worth it?
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Good thread! Lats are my favorite muscle to workout. Thicc boys back there.
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you would be able to prove the impossible..
wouldn't that be worth it?
One question: Let say you are right: So if you cannot affect any way about the shape of your muscles, you can only make them bigger by training and genes do the rest, what exactly is the point of the bodybuilding?
All you need is mass, and that is all you can build. So what you need is bench, chins and squat, and that's it. All other exercises are futile, because all you can is build mass, not shape it by any way. But what about if you are wrong? If man can change look of his muscles by changing his approach to the certain exercise, what that would mean? That power lifers look different than bodybuilders, that weight lifers look different than bodybuilders, and there would be plenty of bodybuilders who look different compared to each other. Wouldn't that be nice? They could even put up some competitions, because they all look different because differences in their training...wait a minute...I must be dreaming.. ;D
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'Visualize your biceps as mountain peaks and it will be so! I say to that mountain: "Move!", and it shall move.' -- Jesus Schwarzenegger
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ObeXygTFqqU/UeAYrxPGvJI/AAAAAAAAXDQ/IfKkKAiNLOA/s1600/Grand+Teton+National+Park+Wallpapers+%25287%2529.jpg)
I΄m just waiting for the bro science on Building bicep Peaks in this thread ;D
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One question: Let say you are right: So if you cannot affect any way about the shape of your muscles, you can only make them bigger by training and genes do the rest, what exactly is the point of the bodybuilding?
All you need is mass, and that is all you can build. So what you need is bench, chins and squat, and that's it. All other exercises are futile, because all you can is build mass, not shape it by any way. But what about if you are wrong? If man can change look of his muscles by changing his approach to the certain exercise, what that would mean? That power lifers look different than bodybuilders, that weight lifers look different than bodybuilders, and there would be plenty of bodybuilders who look different compared to each other. Wouldn't that be nice? They could even put up some competitions, because they all look different because differences in their training...wait a minute...I must be dreaming.. ;D
making your muscles bigger, fucking hell, you really need me to tell you that?
As for varying excercices then yes, its highly likley that you can find an excercise that will work the muscle through a full ragne of motion and use that to develop it without any other excercises at all
I only do one excercise for triceps, standing rope extensions
Chest, I am at the point now where I am experimenting with cable crossovers only as I dont even feel my pecs working with pressing movements.
I do leg extensions and hacks and lying curls for hams
Back I do a few different excercises because there are differing insertion points for different areas.
Why do varying excercises when you can fully work the muscle to failure with one?
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making your muscles bigger, fucking hell, you really need me to tell you that?
As for varying excercices then yes, its highly likley that you can find an excercise that will work the muscle through a full ragne of motion and use that to develop it without any other excercises at all
I only do one excercise for triceps, standing rope extensions
Chest, I am at the point now where I am experimenting with cable crossovers only as I dont even feel my pecs working with pressing movements.
I do leg extensions and hacks and lying curls for hams
Back I do a few different excercises because there are differing insertion points for different areas.
Why do varying excercises when you can fully work the muscle to failure with one?
yes for biceps i like incline bench curls. full range of Motion. I agree with you i mean if you hit a muscle Group with intensity on the first exercise you are just cruising on the 2nd & 3rd exercises
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making your muscles bigger, fucking hell, you really need me to tell you that?
As for varying excercices then yes, its highly likley that you can find an excercise that will work the muscle through a full ragne of motion and use that to develop it without any other excercises at all
I only do one excercise for triceps, standing rope extensions
Chest, I am at the point now where I am experimenting with cable crossovers only as I dont even feel my pecs working with pressing movements.
I do leg extensions and hacks and lying curls for hams
Back I do a few different excercises because there are differing insertion points for different areas.
Why do varying excercises when you can fully work the muscle to failure with one?
Why? You are some kind of idiot, aren't you? You don't know fuck about training, do you? Do not answer, it is written quite clearly in your comments, which are something what child would write about the matter he doesn't understand at all ;D
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Why? You are some kind of idiot, aren't you? You don't know fuck about training, do you? Do not answer, it is written quite clearly in your comments, which are something what child would write about the matter he doesn't understand at all ;D
post your pics hot shot...
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post your pics hot shot...
Just wait it to happen, hold your breath until you see them. What is funny about this matter, whole video is about this bloke, to which Samir is teaching how to change appearance of his lower lats by chancing his training technique. So your point is that you know this better than Samir, and every mr olympia/mr universum before Phil Heath? Well, I am happy for you, you must be a walking, farting encyclopedia of the art bodybuilding, compared to these pitiful fools.. ;D
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Just wait it to happen, hold your breath until you see them. What is funny about this matter, whole video is about this bloke, to which Samir is teaching how to change appearance of his lower lats by chancing his training technique. So your point is that you know this better than Samir, and every mr olympia/mr universum before Phil Heath? Well, I am happy for you, you must be a walking, farting encyclopedia of the art bodybuilding, compared to these pitiful fools.. ;D
he changes the appearnce by making them larger, the muscles have tie ins that dictate the shape, you cant alter that.
As for Olympians knowing everything, I spoke to a former pro who was having breakfast with Ronnie, he asked him about his diet and he said "I just do what Chad tells me"
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he changes the appearnce by making them larger, the muscles have tie ins that dictate the shape, you cant alter that.
As for Olympians knowing everything, I spoke to a former pro who was having breakfast with Ronnie, he asked him about his diet and he said "I just do what Chad tells me"
So you didn't watch the video at all, but you have great need to argument about it? And you met some dimwit bodybuilder, and that proves they all are just as stupid as that dimwit? Ok. By that attitude you will never learn anything, but that isn't my problem. More like problem of your parents, who have to live with brat like you ;D
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So you didn't watch the video at all, but you have great need to argument about it? And you met some dimwit bodybuilder, and that proves they all are just as stupid as that dimwit? Ok. By that attitude you will never learn anything, but that isn't my problem. More like problem of your parents, who have to live with brat like you ;D
Have you seen joswift's pics? He's probably one of the best amateur bodybuilders on this board.