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So why do we care that he fired Marie Yovanovitch?
Flashback: Obama Fired All Bush Appointed Ambassadors In 2008
SHELBY TALCOTT
REPORTER
November 15, 2019
The former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testified Friday about President Donald Trump firing her amid an alleged “smear campaign,” but firing ambassadors appointed by former presidents is commonplace.
Former President Barack Obama fired all ambassadors appointed by former President George W. Bush in 2008, The Washington Post previously reported. Yovanovitch testified Friday that the Trump administration, including the president’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, “kneecapped” her. She said State Department leaders did not support her after being recalled in May.
“Political ambassadors sometimes are permitted to stay on briefly during a new administration, but the sweeping nature of the directive suggests that Obama has little interest in retaining any of Bush’s ambassadorial appointees,” WaPo’s 2008 article about Obama’s decision to fire all political ambassadors reads.
Yovanovitch was appointed by Obama in 2016, and newly elected presidents typically re-vamp the positions with their own choices once taking office. Yovanovitch was allowed to stay on for three years after Trump took office, but has testified that senior officials “declined to acknowledge” the “smear campaign” against her leading up to her firing, Politico reported.
“Often the posts involving the most important bilateral relations (such as with Great Britain, Japan and India) or desirable locales (such as the Bahamas) are given to close friends and well-heeled contributors of the president,” the WaPo article added.
A 2017 Snopes fact-check also noted that Trump firing appointed ambassadors was not an unprecedented move.
“The resignation and replacement of ambassadors at the end of an administration is routine,” the fact check reads, adding that some presidents have fired everyone at once while others decide on a case-by-case basis.
The other ambassador to have testified is Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the E.U. He testified Oct. 17 that he communicated a quid pro quo to Ukraine. Sondland linked giving military aid to Ukraine with the country agreeing to take part in investigations that Trump asked for in a revised statement, USA Today reported. Trump selected Sondland to the position in 2018.
Democrats said during Friday’s public testimony that they were angry at Yovanovitch’s sudden dismissal, despite Obama doing the same thing when he became president in 2008. The testimony comes amid an impeachment inquiry into Trump following an August whistleblower complaint. The whistleblower complaint accused the president of pressuring Ukraine to look into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/15/flashback-obama-fires-bush-ambassadors/
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BFD
He's not being impeached because he fired Yovanovitch
How do you not know this?
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BFD
He's not being impeached because he fired Yovanovitch
How do you not know this?
He's not being impeached at all.
How do YOU not know this?
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BFD
Apparently it is to you and your sniveling (for 3 years now) cronies.
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Playing around with words and limiting access to cross in the house might work on MSNBC but voters have already tuned this sham out.
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He's not being impeached at all.
How do YOU not know this?
LOL - is that what you saw on Faux News or are you just doing a "Lindsey Graham" and just pretending it's not happening?
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Apparently it is to you and your sniveling (for 3 years now) cronies.
really?
I've never seen anyone talk about any ambassador other than this one and it's not the fact that she was removed but the facts surrounding her removal (i.e. corrupt intent)
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Playing around with words and limiting access to cross in the house might work on MSNBC but voters have already tuned this sham out.
Trumptard will have his chance to cross examine when/if the Senate had an impeachment TRIAL
That's how the process works dipshit
If you're concerned that the witnesses in the House are not hearing from the "other side" then contact Trumptard and tell him to stop attempting to prevent witnesses from speaking and even better to get his fat ass over to Congress and swear in and testify
Hillary did it for 11 fucking hours
Let's see your fat orange messiah do that or STFU
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Barack Obama went on lengthy private vacations with Richard Branson on Branson’s private island.
Bumholes were definitely pumped.
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I continually read that she was fired. She was recalled from Ukraine several months before her tour of duty ended and reassigned within the State Department.
If the manager at the Piggly Wiggly doesn’t like the way a cashier does her job and reassigns her to stocking shelves, that’s not being fired.
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Today’s Impeachment Hearing summary:
Yovanovitch had no information on the call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that prompted the impeachment inquiry, or events thereafter.
It really has to suck to be dumb enough to be a Democrat.
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Trumptard will have his chance to cross examine when/if the Senate had an impeachment TRIAL
That's how the process works dipshit
If you're concerned that the witnesses in the House are not hearing from the "other side" then contact Trumptard and tell him to stop attempting to prevent witnesses from speaking and even better to get his fat ass over to Congress and swear in and testify
Hillary did it for 11 fucking hours
Let's see your fat orange messiah do that or STFU
(https://tr1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/04/25/b39325da-765f-4f83-83d1-589477029fc9/resize/1200x/a4e38b0bb04b8406310c83f4c6a56a4f/meltdown.jpg)
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Trumptard will have his chance to cross examine when/if the Senate had an impeachment TRIAL
That's how the process works dipshit
If you're concerned that the witnesses in the House are not hearing from the "other side" then contact Trumptard and tell him to stop attempting to prevent witnesses from speaking and even better to get his fat ass over to Congress and swear in and testify
Hillary did it for 11 fucking hours
Let's see your fat orange messiah do that or STFU
(http://www.soyacincau.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/160104-crying-baby-app-01.jpg)
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Trumptard will have his chance to cross examine when/if the Senate had an impeachment TRIAL
That's how the process works dipshit
If you're concerned that the witnesses in the House are not hearing from the "other side" then contact Trumptard and tell him to stop attempting to prevent witnesses from speaking and even better to get his fat ass over to Congress and swear in and testify
Hillary did it for 11 fucking hours
Let's see your fat orange messiah do that or STFU
Geez you are a fucking angry prick. Do you have any friends in real life? I’m asking seriously.
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Trump's mistake was not firing all these Demo-crap appointees immediately upon taking office.
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Trumptard will have his chance to cross examine when/if the Senate had an impeachment TRIAL
That's how the process works dipshit
If you're concerned that the witnesses in the House are not hearing from the "other side" then contact Trumptard and tell him to stop attempting to prevent witnesses from speaking and even better to get his fat ass over to Congress and swear in and testify
Hillary did it for 11 fucking hours
Let's see your fat orange messiah do that or STFU
(https://i.imgflip.com/3gk1dv.jpg)
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Gay Muslim was a puppet/clown propped up by the fake media, he took orders from people even dumber than himself.