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Title: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Marty Champions on December 01, 2019, 07:55:01 AM
Both operations are heating the weed or tobacco up to a temperature where it begins to produce smoke from the weed\tobacco

So what you inhale is no different from smoking vs vaping


So why do they lie and say one is any different
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Marty Champions on December 01, 2019, 08:08:01 AM
So its impossible to vape weed unless its in a liquid form right?
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Purge_WTF on December 01, 2019, 08:26:55 AM
 Vaping products don't have formaldehyde in them.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 01, 2019, 12:46:22 PM
With vaping the liquid has a lot of additives and impurities. Who would heat a liquid made in China then inhale it?  One of the problems is Vitamin E is used in a lot of vaping liquids. It's okay to ingest but once it's heated it turns to vapor.  Once in your lungs the heated vitamin E oil turns into a wax coating your lungs. Cigarettes will kill you in decades. Some of these vapes are killing people in a year
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Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: joswift on December 01, 2019, 12:47:56 PM
you dont need a lighter...
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: IRON CROSS on December 01, 2019, 12:54:59 PM



So why do they lie and say one is any different




Falcon, ignore that & keep snorting  ;)
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 01, 2019, 01:02:00 PM
I'll say this:  vaping is 1000x harder to quit than smoking, IMO.  Having to go outside and smoke naturally limits the amount of nicotine you'll consume.  Whereas vaping can be done just about anywhere, meaning that you can be vaping pretty much constantly throughout the waking hours
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2019, 03:37:39 PM
Vaping products don't have formaldehyde in them.

Instead they have vitamin E which is clogging up people's lungs and killing them.....not in years, like with cigarettes, but like right now.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: J. Richards on December 01, 2019, 03:55:45 PM
vaping is the modern "look at me puff and blow" .....
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Rambone on December 01, 2019, 04:08:16 PM
One is a pussy stick
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Hypertrophy on December 01, 2019, 04:50:39 PM
Vaping products don't have formaldehyde in them.

They most certainly do.

https://consumerist.com/2015/01/22/are-you-vaping-formaldehyde-in-your-e-cigarette/

Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Pet shop boys on December 01, 2019, 04:52:03 PM
With vaping the liquid has a lot of additives and impurities. Who would heat a liquid made in China then inhale it?  One of the problems is Vitamin E is used in a lot of vaping liquids. It's okay to ingest but once it's heated it turns to vapor.  Once in your lungs the heated vitamin E oil turns into a wax coating your lungs. Cigarettes will kill you in decades. Some of these vapes are killing people in a year
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End of thread .


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Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Matt on December 01, 2019, 05:05:35 PM
So its impossible to vape weed unless its in a liquid form right?

My friend's cousin was the first vaping death in Tennessee.  He went to Minnesota to attend his funeral around a month ago:

https://kstp.com/news/minnesota-man-dies-from-vaping-in-tennessee-october-17-2019-/5527542

So don't be fooled - there are risks associated with vaping.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Purge_WTF on December 01, 2019, 05:41:43 PM
Instead they have vitamin E which is clogging up people's lungs and killing them.....not in years, like with cigarettes, but like right now.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2019, 06:59:28 PM


Check out Ryan Hall's website. Could he be a little bias?  ::) ::) ::) https://mountainvapors.net
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: The Scott on December 01, 2019, 07:14:59 PM
Odd that vaping and smoking cigarettes is bad for you but smoking dope and shooting heroin and taking meth are just fine.  Now some here might say the last two are not fine but given how the government of Kommiefornia encourages such activities SF and LA and anywhere else they can encourage such mAss behavior (along with crapping/pissing in public enough to create a possible hepatitis epidemic) I would say it must be MUCH better than cigarettes.

Fucking hypocrites.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Purge_WTF on December 01, 2019, 07:55:30 PM
Check out Ryan Hall's website. Could he be a little bias?  ::) ::) ::) https://mountainvapors.net

 He said very clearly that he makes a living selling vape juice. As he said, it's contaminated black market products that are causing the health problems.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on December 01, 2019, 09:01:48 PM
People have been vaping for almost 10 years and it wasnt until this recent slate of outbreaks that people started getting seriously ill and dying.  It's almost certainly from a bad batch of unregulated vape juice/cartridges--THC cartridges from the sound of it.

It would be stupid to just start vaping out of nowhere but it's definitely healther than smoking tobacco and early evidence shows that it's very effective as a smoking cessation tool.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: cephissus on December 01, 2019, 10:52:51 PM
I've only used really small vaporizers. They dont deliver at the same rate and you cant reach the same "high". I tend to smoke a lot more with a vaporizer and threw mine away.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: galain on December 01, 2019, 11:26:26 PM
For the non smoker in the vicinity, vaping is a thousand times more tolerable than cigarettes.

For the user, they're both stupid. The alveoli in the lungs have one function. They exchange oxygen with carbon dioxide - putting the O2 into the blood stream and removing the CO2 from the bloodstream.

How anyone in their right mind thinks heating shit to the point where it's steam or smoke and then putting that into the lungs, is completely beyond me.

I've even had stoners try and tell me that cannabis smoke is healthy for lung tissue. Get fucked. There's nothing healthy about inhaling smoke of any kind. If you like pot, eat it, don't fucking inhale it.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: BlackMetallic on December 02, 2019, 01:42:16 AM
Aside from the other chemicals in vapes, you can get zero nicotine in vape cartridges
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 07:28:25 AM
With vaping the liquid has a lot of additives and impurities. Who would heat a liquid made in China then inhale it?  One of the problems is Vitamin E is used in a lot of vaping liquids. It's okay to ingest but once it's heated it turns to vapor.  Once in your lungs the heated vitamin E oil turns into a wax coating your lungs. Cigarettes will kill you in decades. Some of these vapes are killing people in a year
.  
wrong vitamin e oil is only in fake THC cartridges... vape juice has no vitamin e oils  In general, juice is comprised of five ingredients - water, flavoring, propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin and nicotine (excluding zero nicotine liquids).
whats killing people is fake THC
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: ilalin on December 02, 2019, 10:28:42 AM
Odd that vaping and smoking cigarettes is bad for you but smoking dope and shooting heroin and taking meth are just fine.  Now some here might say the last two are not fine but given how the government of Kommiefornia encourages such activities SF and LA and anywhere else they can encourage such mAss behavior (along with crapping/pissing in public enough to create a possible hepatitis epidemic) I would say it must be MUCH better than cigarettes.

Fucking hypocrites.

kids are doing it en mass in high schools....huge reason for concern, especially because nicotine is very addictive. You have the same rich, pedophile old-timers (cigarette companies and their bosses) making money off of our future. Fuck them.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 11:08:11 AM
kids are doing it en mass in high schools....huge reason for concern, especially because nicotine is very addictive. You have the same rich, pedophile old-timers (cigarette companies and their bosses) making money off of our future. Fuck them.
correct kids are using things like the juul and they are getting it from gas stations and shit like that the issue is real vaping from a vape shop will not sell to kids and the government is finally saying its not vaping that got people sick or dead even the CDC came out and said it was from bad THC. And vaping is 95% safer than smoking and helps people quit smoking...

Think about it vaping has been around for 15 years no one has gotten sick until liquid THC came on the market now every back room chemist makes illegal THC and they use vitamin e and other fillers that should not be smoked and people are getting hurt..
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2019, 12:06:14 PM
People have been vaping for almost 10 years and it wasnt until this recent slate of outbreaks that people started getting seriously ill and dying.  It's almost certainly from a bad batch of unregulated vape juice/cartridges--THC cartridges from the sound of it.

It would be stupid to just start vaping out of nowhere but it's definitely healther than smoking tobacco and early evidence shows that it's very effective as a smoking cessation tool.

I am not disagreeing with you. Vaping may be less harmful to our bodies than smoking in general. Even if the recent outbreak of people getting sick and dying from vaping, is caused by unregulated vape juice/cartridges, is it worth risking death to continue vaping until this is absolutely resolved? I don't smoke now nor have I ever vaped, but I once was a chain smoker. So, I know first hand how addicting tobacco and whatever other shit tobacco companies put in cigerettes is.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Straw Man on December 02, 2019, 12:10:48 PM
So its impossible to vape weed unless its in a liquid form right?

wrong

dry herb vaporizers have been around for 20+ years

Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 12:14:55 PM
I am not disagreeing with you. Vaping may be less harmful to our bodies than smoking in general. Even if the recent outbreak of people getting sick and dying from vaping, is caused by unregulated vape juice/cartridges, is it worth risking death to continue vaping until this is absolutely resolved? I don't smoke now nor have I ever vaped, but I once was a chain smoker. So, I know first hand how addicting tobacco and whatever other shit tobacco companies put in cigerettes is.
The real vape juice that you buy from a vape shop  not the juul pre cartridge crap bottle vape juice is made in a very strict facillaty and is tested by the fda before it can be sold
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2019, 12:37:43 PM
The real vape juice that you buy from a vape shop  not the juul pre cartridge crap bottle vape juice is made in a very strict facillaty and is tested by the fda before it can be sold

I take it you vape.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 12:50:52 PM
I take it you vape.
No but I have 2 good friends who own vape shops and they are at risk of losing it if the government takes it away for the wrong reasons.. I just cant stand the media and how instead of printing the truth its vape this and vape that when it was illegal thc ...
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
No but I have 2 good friends who own vape shops and they are at risk of losing it if the government takes it away for the wrong reasons.. I just cant stand the media and how instead of printing the truth its vape this and vape that when it was illegal thc ...

I feel for your friends. My grandson works at a legal dispensary and they sell vape products that are already highly regulated. It is the media's position to report what's going on. It should be the people's responsibility to head the warning or not. Government interference shouldn't be necessary. But than I think people should be able to decide many things themselves that government regulates, i.e. anabolic steroid use.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Matt on December 02, 2019, 01:34:16 PM
I feel for your friends. My grandson works at a legal dispensary and they sell vape products that are already highly regulated. It is the media's position to report what's going on. It should be the people's responsibility to head the warning or not. Government interference shouldn't be necessary. But than I think people should be able to decide many things themselves that government regulates, i.e. anabolic steroid use.

I feel for my friends, too.  I also feel for your friends, and I fear for all of our friends' health!  :-\
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 01:36:40 PM
I feel for your friends. My grandson works at a legal dispensary and they sell vape products that are already highly regulated. It is the media's position to report what's going on. It should be the people's responsibility to head the warning or not. Government interference shouldn't be necessary. But than I think people should be able to decide many things themselves that government regulates, i.e. anabolic steroid use.
correct they are so worried about the kids that's there bullshit motive vape shops in ny nj most states are 21 years old I know so many people who have stop smoking because of vaping they vape 3mg nic down to zero some have stopped vaping some still enjoy it but none have gone back to cigs and they feel great no bad effects at all........... vaping and e cigs and juuls are not the same thing but it gets put under the same flag vaping
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2019, 01:43:28 PM
correct they are so worried about the kids that's there bullshit motive vape shops in ny nj most states are 21 years old I know so many people who have stop smoking because of vaping they vape 3mg nic down to zero some have stopped vaping some still enjoy it but none have gone back to cigs and they feel great no bad effects at all........... vaping and e cigs and juuls are not the same thing but it gets put under the same flag vaping

Dispensary's in Oregon are regulated by the OLCC and have the same rules as our state liquor stores with regards to legal age....which is 21.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: IRON CROSS on December 02, 2019, 03:02:34 PM
Dispensary's in Oregon are regulated by the OLCC and have the same rules as our state liquor stores with regards to legal age....which is 21.

Let me guess, you stop at the green light too !.
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Anna Recksiek on December 02, 2019, 03:21:27 PM
Who would heat a liquid made in China then inhale it?
The same people who will shoot bathtub test, gh and research pharmaceuticals from China?
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: dan18 on December 02, 2019, 03:27:05 PM
Dispensary's in Oregon are regulated by the OLCC and have the same rules as our state liquor stores with regards to legal age....which is 21.
that's good but I wasn't referring to pot dispensary's  I was talking about where they make the vape juice
Title: Re: How is vaping different than smoking
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2019, 08:36:11 PM
that's good but I wasn't referring to pot dispensary's  I was talking about where they make the vape juice
Manufacture is also highly regulated in Oregon.

You might enjoy reading this article about vaping and dispensaries. https://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories/some-oregon-dispensaries-take-action-after-vape-deaths