Do aliens exist? By the number of star systems that are out the that have planets in the habitable zone of the parent star the answer is yes. Even if ( which we most certainly are ) we are a rare anomaly, that would still leave us with millions of intelligent civilizations out there. Not saying it’s common, just saying by the number of stars and galaxies out there it’s pretty much a must.
Why don’t they make contact? Because there’s no reason. If they have progressed enough to overcome the challenge of FTL travel it is also likely that they have also progressed past the need for war, slavery and definitely any fossil fuels or elements. So why would they? The best guess I can come up with is 1. We are a seed planet, an experiment and they are pretty much leaving us B just occasionally checking in to sample or check on progress. Or 2. Have you ever observed a child learning a new task and seen them figure out a completely different way to complete it which may be better or more effective that the original? Well that may be it , they may just be observing us to see if they can learn anything new.
Advanced civilizations have no use of us in the end other than curiosity and also it’s more than likely they’ve transcended their own mortality, which means the first alien sighting from thousands of years ago could be the same group of space dudes we claim to see today. Just my take.
The Alcubiarre Drive has already been designed and has been since the mid 90s. The energy requirements were so massive no one thought it’d ever be possible to build. Then Sonny White at NASA made some modifications on calculations and brought it into feasibility. The biggest problem is that it has to be built in space I think so we need a more economical means of getting materials in LEO. It looks like Mr. Musk is more than doing his part with that. A conservative estimation is that in about 30 years we’ll send our first unmanned FTL probe to Proxima in about 25 years and first manned in 50. That is unless the feminist antifa lgbtq crowd doesn’t kill us all first.
I never understand someone like Basiles view that theories of aliens is crazy Just think about humans for a moment, we can already alter dna and make custom babies, we already are in space.The nearest habitable planets seem to be 4 light years away, no doubt we'll discover some even closer.Things like warp drives, black holes, anti gravity etc are theorised to get us there much faster than the 700k or whatever years it would take with current tech.Give it 60-300 years or so im sure we would be able to send an unmanned craft to a habitable planet, drop down a few adam and eves then fly away and keep them as a zoo we can visit while cloaked in invisible craft etc.One day in 200000 years when we are flying around in atom sized nano bots around humans at same stage as us now in the zoo, they suddenly invent nukes and we need to keep a closer eye on them because the tech can be so destructive.
Of the billions of likely intelligent civs out there already, many hundreds, thousands, millions etc years ahead of us, they likely made unmanned drones many many years ago that could travel and duplicate themselves, all while staying hidden unless they wanted to be seen.Parts or even the whole of the universe could be full of them, we just dont have the tech to see them.And imagine a 100iq human talking to an AI based race that has an iq of 1000000...
Inner space is where its at...its there we should be looking
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"Aliens" are an elusive phenomen which defies "common" logic - until you've met one it's pretty much wishful thinking.
It would be interesting to see how predatory they are and what's really in store for the human resources awaiting their "ascended" masters.
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I never understand someone like Basiles view that theories of aliens is crazy Just think about humans for a moment, we can already alter dna and make custom babies, we already are in space.The nearest habitable planets seem to be 4 light years away, no doubt we'll discover some even closer.Things like warp drives, black holes, anti gravity etc are theorised to get us there much faster than the 700k or whatever years it would take with current tech.Give it 60-300 years or so im sure we would be able to send an unmanned craft to a habitable planet, drop down a few adam and eves then fly away and keep them as a zoo we can visit while cloaked in invisible craft etc.One day in 200000 years when we are flying around in atom sized nano bots around humans at same stage as us now in the zoo, they suddenly invent nukes and we need to keep a closer eye on them because the tech can be so destructive.
Of the billions of likely intelligent civs out there already, many hundreds, thousands, millions etc years ahead of us, they likely made unmanned drones many many years ago that could travel and duplicate themselves, all while staying hidden unless they wanted to be seen.Parts or even the whole of the universe could be full of them, we just dont have the tech to see them.And imagine a 100iq human talking to an AI based race that has an iq of 1000000...
I see the prospect of alien life as approximately as prospectively true as the idea that this reality is not particularly "real" per se. About as likely that none of this is real, to be honest. Not something to hang your hat on, just something that is about as likely. By that, I mean that we have ourselves this mostly cozy little playground we call earth to exist on, coming here with no memory of the past (or indications of the future). It could just as easily be effective a game, a simulation or just something we dreamt up ourselves to experience mortality - which is something that gives events far more gravity. The idea of death is important in making this existence on earth mean something. I don't necessarily believe that isn't something that is incidentally part of what we have here.
Anybody who has ever used a psychedelic will know what I mean by that - I'm not suggesting that they would lead you to any "truth" but they do cast a very clear light on just how incredibly tenuous this reality is and leads me to seriously question the extent of the world around us.
On the subject of alien life being everywhere - the chances are that prototypical forms of life are common - but there is a mild school of thought that we might be a more initial civilisation than we might originally estimate. For one thing, most star systems in the past would have likely had much larger volatile stars. Our own system is only stable because it is formed by the remnants of much larger stars blowing up.
But yes, the chances of life are astronomical - but a lot needs to go right. I don't know that the drake equation takes into account factors such as the ones we have faced ourselves. If the dinosaurs were not wiped out - chances our that our planet would be a completely silent planet (communication wise) to any civilisation pointing their antennas at us. It would be teeming with life, but look as dead as a rock to the outside.
No race will contact us during our lifetimes. Not going to happen.
Better to remain ignorant than post one’s thoughts and remove all doubt.
I see the prospect of alien life as approximately as prospectively true as the idea that this reality is not particularly "real" per se. About as likely that none of this is real, to be honest. Not something to hang your hat on, just something that is about as likely. By that, I mean that we have ourselves this mostly cozy little playground we call earth to exist on, coming here with no memory of the past (or indications of the future). It could just as easily be effective a game, a simulation or just something we dreamt up ourselves to experience mortality - which is something that gives events far more gravity. The idea of death is important in making this existence on earth mean something. I don't necessarily believe that isn't something that is incidentally part of what we have here.
Anybody who has ever used a psychedelic will know what I mean by that - I'm not suggesting that they would lead you to any "truth" but they do cast a very clear light on just how incredibly tenuous this reality is and leads me to seriously question the extent of the world around us.
On the subject of alien life being everywhere - the chances are that prototypical forms of life are common - but there is a mild school of thought that we might be a more initial civilisation than we might originally estimate. For one thing, most star systems in the past would have likely had much larger volatile stars. Our own system is only stable because it is formed by the remnants of much larger stars blowing up.
But yes, the chances of life are astronomical - but a lot needs to go right. I don't know that the drake equation takes into account factors such as the ones we have faced ourselves. If the dinosaurs were not wiped out - chances our that our planet would be a completely silent planet (communication wise) to any civilisation pointing their antennas at us. It would be teeming with life, but look as dead as a rock to the outside.
No race will contact us during our lifetimes. Not going to happen.
I wouldn't bother with us. We're not that interesting.
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I beg to differ - perfect victims to run experiments on.
Are you saying we are cosmic beings entering this "simulation" due to boredom?
As Elon Musk says, if you were not the first or base civilization, then you must be the simulation they produced, or one of the billions spawned off the first simulation produced.
I wouldn't bother with us. We're not that interesting.
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I beg to differ - perfect victims to run experiments on.
Exactly, its why we have zoos, safari parks etc.To study, protect the species, for entertainment.Whats more plausible, an invisible single skyman with a beard made us all, or a civilization like our own made us all?Whether bioligically or in a simulation.Both things we will be able to do ourselves if no massive catastrophe wipes us out.
I never understand someone like Basiles view that theories of aliens is crazy Just think about humans for a moment, we can already alter dna and make custom babies, we already are in space.The nearest habitable planets seem to be 4 light years away, no doubt we'll discover some even closer.Things like warp drives, black holes, anti gravity etc are theorised to get us there much faster than the 700k or whatever years it would take with current tech.Give it 60-300 years or so im sure we would be able to send an unmanned craft to a habitable planet, drop down a few adam and eves then fly away and keep them as a zoo we can visit while cloaked in invisible craft etc.One day in 200000 years when we are flying around in atom sized nano bots around humans at same stage as us now in the zoo, they suddenly invent nukes and we need to keep a closer eye on them because the tech can be so destructive.
Of the billions of likely intelligent civs out there already, many hundreds, thousands, millions etc years ahead of us, they likely made unmanned drones many many years ago that could travel and duplicate themselves, all while staying hidden unless they wanted to be seen.Parts or even the whole of the universe could be full of them, we just dont have the tech to see them.And imagine a 100iq human talking to an AI based race that has an iq of 1000000...
The Alcubiarre Drive has already been designed and has been since the mid 90s. The energy requirements were so massive no one thought it’d ever be possible to build. Then Sonny White at NASA made some modifications on calculations and brought it into feasibility. The biggest problem is that it has to be built in space I think so we need a more economical means of getting materials in LEO. It looks like Mr. Musk is more than doing his part with that. A conservative estimation is that we will send our first unmanned FTL probe to Proxima in about 25 years and first manned in 50. That is unless the feminist antifa lgbtq crowd doesn’t kill us all first.We aren't sending any manned probe to Proxima ever and certainly not in 50 years.
What if we earthlings are the first and only ones to colonize the universes? What if we are the ones who in the future will find less evolved life in other, remote planets, who are behind us technologically?
Considering the recent adjustment of the old Carl Sagan saying that there are more stars in the universe than grains of sand on earth, to there are likely more earth like planets in the universe than grains of sand on earth, id say there are better odds of every getbigger winning the lottery one after the other than us being first.
It's possible, but you'd think that since there are likely more earth like planets in the universe than grains of sand on earth, we'd have found one by now. And even if we do find one with life, who says it will be intelligent life?
Heck, we've sent drones to mars and proves into space to take photos and find stuff. We haven't seen a single one of those floating around in space that isn't ours. We haven't seen a single piece of debris in space from a space shuttle or space station that isn't ours.
The radius of the universe is thought to be 46 billion light years, and the furthest star we have seen is around 13 billion light years.Exoplanets are very hard to see directly with telescopes. Some have been imaged , see below
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_directly_imaged_exoplanets
They are usually hidden by the bright glare of the stars they orbit.So instead scientists look for the effects these planets orbiting usually have on the stars.Its only in the last 10 years scientist equipment has been sensitive enough to detect this.As for why havnt we seen or found one by direct travel, Voyager 1, which has gone the most distance from earth, has covered 1/600 of a light-year in 30 years...And how or why would we see craft that are not ours unless they wanted us to?And why would Nasa tell is if they did?How often do our enemies see our stealth bombers on night runs?Now imagine what we will have in just 100 years...let alone a civilization a 1000+ years ahead of us.
Extraterrestrials (UFOs, Aliens, etc.) are like happy marriages. Everyone believes in them, but nobody has actually seen one, even if they think they have.
tens of thousands of people have seen ufos, etc....including law enforcement, astronauts, pilots, politicians, and people from every walk of life
not sure how you could be unaware of this fact unless it's just willful ignorance (common trait among fundies for anything that doesn't fit their tiny little world view)
The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951) Klaatu, "We come in peace"
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Better to remain ignorant than post one’s thoughts and remove all doubt.
Would love to see/encounter Aliens that have spacetravel but not much else and that are very gullible, naive and easily manipulated.
And another group of Aliens with high technology but are pure pacifists to a fault, and are highly religious following a creed where you must do certain things, even if it presents problems for their wellbeing.
Then of course the run of the mill aggressive megalomaniacal alien (also with spacetravel tech)
Kwon - I vote that you are the supreme leader of female entity formation in our new simulation. You will create them in your imagination.
If we do meet an already existing alien race (and I can assure you with 100% certainty races other than human and mine exist) - I hope it is the “big booty girls of the boobgloxian solar system”. I have never met them but Martian legend speaks of a magnificent people!
Let's say we encounter these three at the same timeperiod.
Then you can fool/persuade one/two of them to defend earth against the aggressive one, and then use their tech.
You could even fool the naive alien species and the pacifist one (which we've stolen tech from) that we have an alliance and it is a way of higher purpose / ascension.
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