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Title: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Dos Equis on January 11, 2020, 12:08:19 AM
Not surprised.

Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
by Paul Bedard
January 09, 2020

They have an outsized voice in the media, pop culture, and politics, especially the 2020 Democratic presidential contest, but only 24% of the nation claims to be liberal, with the rest in the long-dominant “center-right” camp, according to a new survey.

In fact, Gallup today said that conservatives lead at 37%, followed by moderates at 34%, though more still identify as Democrat over Republican.

And, significantly, despite President Trump’s middling approval rating and the nearly second-to-second attacks on him and his team, the survey, which results from 29,000 interviews, showed that the conservative vs. liberal gap is growing.

“The percentage identifying as conservative in 2019 was up two points from the 35% measured in 2018, while the percentage liberal was down two points from 26%. While these changes are statistically significant, some two-point changes in the past were short-lived, so it will be important to see whether these trends continue in 2020,” said the survey analysis.

The poll should cheer the Trump reelection campaign and the White House as it readies for the 2020 battle because it shows that the president may have a larger base to tap.

Republicans, for example, are calling themselves conservative more and more while Democrats are taking the liberal label slightly less.

“The large majority of Republicans have consistently labeled themselves conservative in Gallup polling over the life of this trend, although the proportion has inched up from about six in 10 during the early 1990s to over seven in 10 more recently,” Gallup said.

Democrats are more politically diverse and overwhelmingly liberal, but that has seen a change under Trump. “The liberal wing of the Democratic Party has about doubled in size over the past quarter century, rising from 25% in 1994 to 51% in 2018. The slip to 49% in 2019 suggests that trend may be slowing or leveling off, at least temporarily,” said Gallup.

And it warned that independents are growing as some Republicans and Democrats adopt that label.

Even though more voters call themselves Democrats, Gallup said that the fighting among Democrats raises questions about their ability to capitalize on that voter lead.

“It's the combination of Americans' party and ideological preferences that injects variability into politics. Even within the parties, there is dynamism, although perhaps less so among Republicans, given their general conformity around conservatism. But the Democratic Party is more fractured. And even though liberalism has been on the rise among Democrats, it is not yet the clear majority position, perhaps leading to the strong intraparty clashes seen over the past year on the Democratic debate stages and throughout social media, as Democrats try to come together around a standard-bearer for 2020,” said the analysis.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/shock-us-edges-more-center-right-just-24-liberal
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: IroNat on January 11, 2020, 04:39:01 AM
People are afraid to say their are Repubs or Conservatives in public.  They might get attacked.

I won't put a Trump bumper sticker on my car as some lib/left nut would key the car or spray paint it.

Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: polychronopolous on January 11, 2020, 04:43:42 AM
Tim Pool did a video on this yesterday if anyone is interested in looking more into it

Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Purge_WTF on January 11, 2020, 06:12:58 AM
 The looney Left is causing this.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 11, 2020, 07:45:29 AM
The looney Left is causing this.


Bingo!


Thanks, AOC & Omar😎
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 13, 2020, 10:02:38 AM
People are afraid to say their are Repubs or Conservatives in public.  They might get attacked.

I won't put a Trump bumper sticker on my car as some lib/left nut would key the car or spray paint it.



I wouldn’t put any bumper sticker on my car.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 13, 2020, 10:10:01 AM
Because the far left is bat s crazy and running the show.  Its crazy train 24/7 between bernie, aoc, omar, pelosi, et al. 

Not surprised.

Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
by Paul Bedard
January 09, 2020

They have an outsized voice in the media, pop culture, and politics, especially the 2020 Democratic presidential contest, but only 24% of the nation claims to be liberal, with the rest in the long-dominant “center-right” camp, according to a new survey.

In fact, Gallup today said that conservatives lead at 37%, followed by moderates at 34%, though more still identify as Democrat over Republican.

And, significantly, despite President Trump’s middling approval rating and the nearly second-to-second attacks on him and his team, the survey, which results from 29,000 interviews, showed that the conservative vs. liberal gap is growing.

“The percentage identifying as conservative in 2019 was up two points from the 35% measured in 2018, while the percentage liberal was down two points from 26%. While these changes are statistically significant, some two-point changes in the past were short-lived, so it will be important to see whether these trends continue in 2020,” said the survey analysis.

The poll should cheer the Trump reelection campaign and the White House as it readies for the 2020 battle because it shows that the president may have a larger base to tap.

Republicans, for example, are calling themselves conservative more and more while Democrats are taking the liberal label slightly less.

“The large majority of Republicans have consistently labeled themselves conservative in Gallup polling over the life of this trend, although the proportion has inched up from about six in 10 during the early 1990s to over seven in 10 more recently,” Gallup said.

Democrats are more politically diverse and overwhelmingly liberal, but that has seen a change under Trump. “The liberal wing of the Democratic Party has about doubled in size over the past quarter century, rising from 25% in 1994 to 51% in 2018. The slip to 49% in 2019 suggests that trend may be slowing or leveling off, at least temporarily,” said Gallup.

And it warned that independents are growing as some Republicans and Democrats adopt that label.

Even though more voters call themselves Democrats, Gallup said that the fighting among Democrats raises questions about their ability to capitalize on that voter lead.

“It's the combination of Americans' party and ideological preferences that injects variability into politics. Even within the parties, there is dynamism, although perhaps less so among Republicans, given their general conformity around conservatism. But the Democratic Party is more fractured. And even though liberalism has been on the rise among Democrats, it is not yet the clear majority position, perhaps leading to the strong intraparty clashes seen over the past year on the Democratic debate stages and throughout social media, as Democrats try to come together around a standard-bearer for 2020,” said the analysis.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/shock-us-edges-more-center-right-just-24-liberal
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: chaos on January 13, 2020, 06:10:54 PM
I wouldn’t put any bumper sticker on my car.
Don't tread on me
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Straw Man on January 13, 2020, 06:18:27 PM
It always makes me laugh when Trumptards site polls on this board while at the same time claiming polls are meaningless
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 13, 2020, 06:57:30 PM
It always makes me laugh when Trumptards site polls on this board while at the same time claiming polls are meaningless

Libidiot, the word is cite.

Moron.

Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: TacoBell on January 13, 2020, 07:04:58 PM
Libidiot, the word is cite.

Moron.



Stop femsplaining.  My patriarchal privilege can't handle it.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 13, 2020, 07:32:41 PM
Stop femsplaining.  My patriarchal privilege can't handle it.

If you were more of a man, that would be sexist !

🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 14, 2020, 07:07:25 AM
It always makes me laugh when Trumptards site polls on this board while at the same time claiming polls are meaningless

Then, let’s look at hard data. When Obama was elected and subsequently gave much more currency to the hard left, the Democrats got creamed in 2010.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: loco on January 14, 2020, 07:18:42 AM
Then, let’s look at hard data. When Obama was elected and subsequently gave much more currency to the hard left, the Democrats got creamed in 2010.

And blacks voted overwhelmingly against homosexuals in California's Proposition 8.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 14, 2020, 07:39:39 AM
And blacks voted overwhelmingly against homosexuals in California's Proposition 8.

The only thing the various groups on the left have in common is the desire for government to do things for them.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: avxo on January 15, 2020, 08:32:12 PM
Not surprised.

Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal

Yeah, hardly a surprise. The US has been teetering between "center" and "center-right" for at least as long as I can remember. Of course, the definition of "right" and "left" have stretched out far enough that what was, in the past, outside 3 sigma limits, is now well within 2 sigma. And that's scary.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: AbrahamG on January 15, 2020, 09:21:06 PM
Then, let’s look at hard data. When Obama was elected and subsequently gave much more currency to the hard left, the Democrats got creamed in 2010.

That didn't happen again in 2018? 
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 15, 2020, 09:30:25 PM
It always makes me laugh when Trumptards site polls on this board while at the same time claiming polls are meaningless



Nobody sane thinks the country is majority leftist. If it was the whole country would look like San Fran, Chicago, Baltimore, etc.

Rural America will always lean conservative because that kind of life requires common sense and fiscal responsibility at the small govt level.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Straw Man on January 16, 2020, 06:43:55 PM
Then, let’s look at hard data. When Obama was elected and subsequently gave much more currency to the hard left, the Democrats got creamed in 2010.

Dems/Obama lost in 2010 over anger and right wing fear mongering over Obamacare (which obviously didn't prevent Obama from winning re-election in 2016


What's your theory of why Trump/Republicans got smashed in 2018?
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2020, 06:47:56 PM
Dems/Obama lost in 2010 over anger and right wing fear mongering over Obamacare (which obviously didn't prevent Obama from winning re-election in 2016


What's your theory of why Trump/Republicans got smashed in 2018?

Fixed your dates.  No worries.  Republicans got smashed in part for threatening Obamacare.  Which it turns out is wildly popular.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Straw Man on January 16, 2020, 06:55:10 PM
Fixed your dates.  No worries.  Republicans got smashed in part for threatening Obamacare.  Which it turns out is wildly popular.

Thanks

fixed it

I think Republican got smashed in 2018 mostly as a referendum against Trump which you are correct includes his attacks on Obamacare

Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 16, 2020, 07:03:46 PM
Thanks

fixed it

I think Republican got smashed in 2018 mostly as a referendum against Trump which you are correct includes his attacks on Obamacare



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Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2020, 07:06:13 PM
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Was this you back in November of 2008?
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Straw Man on January 16, 2020, 07:08:16 PM
Was this you back in November of 2008?

It's Trump every day

Alleged "tough guy" Trumptard whines daily about how everything and everyone is so unfair

Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 16, 2020, 07:16:59 PM
LIBERALISM IS A SICKNESS AND PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP IS THE CURE !
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: chaos on January 16, 2020, 09:31:22 PM
Fixed your dates.  No worries.  Republicans got smashed in part for threatening Obamacare.  Which it turns out is wildly popular.
No it's not. It was and is a huge clusterfuck that has caused massive spikes in American insurance premiums. ::)
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: AbrahamG on January 16, 2020, 09:59:27 PM
No it's not. It was and is a huge clusterfuck that has caused massive spikes in American insurance premiums. ::)

I've been told that you are smarter than you let on around here.  I've yet to see the evidence.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 17, 2020, 08:17:14 AM
The truth is that the Republicans haven’t had the balls to address the real major issues regarding healthcare: employer-based healthcare and licensing requirements. The former is what drove up prices in the latter is what created shortages. Neither are a product of the free market.

It’s the same drill we’re spending. If you’re not addressing the social programs, you’re just playing make-believe.


Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: chaos on January 17, 2020, 06:04:50 PM
I've been told that you are smarter than you let on around here.  I've yet to see the evidence.
I've yet to see any evidence that osamacare is "wildy popular"
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: AbrahamG on January 17, 2020, 06:12:28 PM
I've yet to see any evidence that osamacare is "wildy popular"

2018 mid terms could be construed as evidence.  But I'm sure you'll have a difference spin. 
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: TacoBell on January 17, 2020, 07:22:56 PM
2018 mid terms could be construed as evidence.  But I'm sure you'll have a difference spin. 

Ill spin it a different way.  The true referendum will be the 2020 election.  Historically, the pendulum swings the opposite direction during the midterm... How it spins now will be more telling.  And we both know color isn't an actual factor.  
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: chaos on January 17, 2020, 09:09:16 PM
2018 mid terms could be construed as evidence.  But I'm sure you'll have a difference spin. 
I've seen what you liberals consider evidence, weak would be an overstatement.
Title: Re: Shock: US edges more 'center-right,' just 24% liberal
Post by: Thin Lizzy on January 18, 2020, 05:45:11 AM
Ill spin it a different way.  The true referendum will be the 2020 election.  Historically, the pendulum swings the opposite direction during the midterm... How it spins now will be more telling.  And we both know color isn't an actual factor.  


Biggest Midterm House Losses Since WWII: Obama (-63), Truman (-55), Clinton (-54)


https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-63-truman-55-clinton-54-have-biggest-midterm-house-losses-wwii