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Title: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 11:35:23 AM
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2020, 11:57:47 AM
Amazing things happen as a trial gets closer and the Dems try to be more underhanded. Bringing in witnesses should scare the living shit out of the left. Bring it!
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 12:02:25 PM
Amazing things happen as a trial gets closer and the Dems try to be more underhanded. Bringing in witnesses should scare the living shit out of the left. Bring it!

I agree

Bring on the witnesses

As 1999 Lindsey Graham (and Mitch McConnell) have both said... the trial needs and has always had witnesses

Let's hear from:  Parnas, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Rick Perry, Sondland, Parnas and TRUMPTARD

I don't understand why the Republicans would want to deny Trump the opportunity to have witnesses come testify about how everything he did was perfect

The reality show clown deserves to have witnesses (wasn't he and other Trumptards actually whining about that only a few months ago)
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2020, 12:06:41 PM
I agree

Bring on the witnesses

As 1999 Lindsey Graham (and Mitch McConnell) have both said... the trial needs and has always had witnesses

Let's hear from:  Parnas, Mulvaney, Pompeo, Rick Perry, Sondland, Parnas and TRUMPTARD

I don't understand why the Republicans would want to deny Trump the opportunity to have witnesses come testify about how everything he did was perfect

The reality show clown deserves to have witnesses (wasn't he and other Trumptards actually whining about that only a few months ago)

And then we can hear from Schiff, Both Biden’s, Pelosi, Clinton, etc and yes, Parnas as well. He’s the lefts Michael Cohen (the one in prison)
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 12:13:25 PM
And then we can hear from Schiff, Both Biden’s, Pelosi, Clinton, etc

LOL - what does Cilnton know about Trump actions regarding Ukraine (same goes of course for everyone else you've listed)

Witnesses actually need to have knowledge of the facts which is why Pompeo, Sondland, Mulvaney, Perry, Parnas and Trump himself should be witnesses

Oh yeah, can't forget Rudy.  That guy is up to his eyeballs in this and turns out Trumps attorney Jay Sekulow may have to be a witness as well

Remember that guy that Trump claims to have never heard of or spoken to (Parnas)

Turns out that Trumps attorney went to the jail where Parnas was being held and asked him to sacrifice himself for Trumptard

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/478720-parnas-claims-ex-trump-attorney-visited-him-in-jail-asked-him-to

That request seems bizarre but then again Parnas himself said that people around Trump (himself included) were like cult members in their devotion to Trump

Here are Parnas's own words

Does this sound familiar Trumptard?

I wonder what your shrine to Trump looks like

Quote
"I loved Trump," he said. "When the FBI came to my house, my wife felt embarrassed because they said I had a shrine to him. I had pictures all over. I idolized him. I thought he was the savior."
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2020, 12:29:03 PM
Bidens will pleading the 5th for days.

Good luck with all that.
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 12:31:11 PM
Bidens will pleading the 5th for days.

Good luck with all that.

Why would he plead the fifth?

Why would he even be a witness

Do you think he has direct knowledge of Trumps actions?

Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2020, 12:33:58 PM
Why would he plead the fifth?

Why would he even be a witness

Do you think he has direct knowledge of Trumps actions?


This isn't the House rules anymore. Back to regular procedure. Cherry-picking is over.
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 17, 2020, 12:35:07 PM
Straw wetting his panties over another siting of Bigfoot in the forest. 
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 12:36:55 PM

This isn't the House rules anymore. Back to regular procedure. Cherry-picking is over.

Cherry Picking?

The House didn't get to pick any cherries because Trump didn't let anyone speak (although a few had the balls to tell him to go pound sand)

Trump refused to participate in the House investigation...remember?

News Flash - even if Trump is acquitted this isn't  going away

Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 12:37:54 PM
Straw wetting his panties over another siting of Bigfoot in the forest. 

?

sounds more like your style
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 17, 2020, 12:50:53 PM
Why would he plead the fifth?

Why would he even be a witness

Do you think he has direct knowledge of Trumps actions?

Why would he even be a witness? This entire Ukraine thing is all about covering for Biden. No more no less. They’re accusing Trump of the exact same thing Biden already admitted he did
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: pamith on January 17, 2020, 01:00:15 PM
Let it be
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Straw Man on January 17, 2020, 01:31:28 PM
Why would he even be a witness? This entire Ukraine thing is all about covering for Biden. No more no less. They’re accusing Trump of the exact same thing Biden already admitted he did

You're almost right

The entire Ukraine thing is about Trumptard trying to extort Ukraine to announce a phony investigation into his political opponent so he could use it to smear him on the campain trail

1. Sondland confirmed this (said there was not requirement for an actual investigation - only an accouncement of an investigation
2.  Mulvaney confirmed this and told us to get over it
3. Trumptard admitted this himself on camera
4.  Parnas confirmed this was the only goal and that they had also tried to do it with the former president of Ukraine
5.  Trump knew about this and directed this entire process - per Sondland (Trump appointee and stooge) and Rudy and Parnas and Mulvaney


If this were Obama the Senate Republicans would have already convicted and Lindsey Graham would right now be helping build the gallows on the White House front lawn

Oh yeah, and the GAO said that Trump broke the law by withholding aide
You saw that reported yesterday of Faux News... right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/gao-trump-ukraine.html


Quote
Hours before the Senate embarked on President Trump’s impeachment trial, a nonpartisan federal watchdog agency unexpectedly weighed in on an issue at the heart of the case: the president’s decision to withhold military assistance to Ukraine.

The agency, the Government Accountability Office, said the White House’s Office of Management and Budget violated the law when it withheld nearly $400 million this past summer for “a policy reason,” even though the funds had been allocated by Congress.

The decision to freeze the aid was directed by the president himself, and during the House impeachment inquiry, administration officials testified that they had raised concerns about its legality to no avail.

“Faithful execution of the law does not permit the president to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law,” the accountability office wrote in an opinion released Thursday. “The withholding was not a programmatic delay.”






Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 17, 2020, 02:45:23 PM


News Flash - even if Trump is acquitted this isn't  going away






Correct, to the detriment of the dem candidates for the next couple election cycles.

Normal people have tuned out political maneuvers thanks to the Russia hoax.

Mueller ended up being a real republican after all, because he did Trump a solid in the end by heading up that sham.
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: TacoBell on January 17, 2020, 07:31:38 PM
You're almost right

The entire Ukraine thing is about Trumptard trying to extort Ukraine to announce a phony investigation into his political opponent so he could use it to smear him on the campain trail

1. Sondland confirmed this (said there was not requirement for an actual investigation - only an accouncement of an investigation
2.  Mulvaney confirmed this and told us to get over it
3. Trumptard admitted this himself on camera
4.  Parnas confirmed this was the only goal and that they had also tried to do it with the former president of Ukraine
5.  Trump knew about this and directed this entire process - per Sondland (Trump appointee and stooge) and Rudy and Parnas and Mulvaney


If this were Obama the Senate Republicans would have already convicted and Lindsey Graham would right now be helping build the gallows on the White House front lawn

Oh yeah, and the GAO said that Trump broke the law by withholding aide
You saw that reported yesterday of Faux News... right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/gao-trump-ukraine.html









God you're truly stupid.
Anyone who can actually see the bigger picture knows that this 'Ukraine thing' is about international money laundering of American tax payer dollars to it's 'ruling class'.

Get a grip you pathetic hack.
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 17, 2020, 09:44:04 PM
You're almost right

The entire Ukraine thing is about Trumptard trying to extort Ukraine to announce a phony investigation into his political opponent so he could use it to smear him on the campain trail

1. Sondland confirmed this (said there was not requirement for an actual investigation - only an accouncement of an investigation
2.  Mulvaney confirmed this and told us to get over it
3. Trumptard admitted this himself on camera
4.  Parnas confirmed this was the only goal and that they had also tried to do it with the former president of Ukraine
5.  Trump knew about this and directed this entire process - per Sondland (Trump appointee and stooge) and Rudy and Parnas and Mulvaney


If this were Obama the Senate Republicans would have already convicted and Lindsey Graham would right now be helping build the gallows on the White House front lawn

Oh yeah, and the GAO said that Trump broke the law by withholding aide
You saw that reported yesterday of Faux News... right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/gao-trump-ukraine.html


Trump Had Right to Withhold Ukraine Funds: GAO is Wrong
by Alan M. Dershowitz
January 17, 2020 at 7:00 pm

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15462/trump-had-right-to-withhold-ukraine-funds-gao-is
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 18, 2020, 12:08:06 AM
You're almost right

The entire Ukraine thing is about Trumptard trying to extort Ukraine to announce a phony investigation into his political opponent so he could use it to smear him on the campain trail

1. Sondland confirmed this (said there was not requirement for an actual investigation - only an accouncement of an investigation
2.  Mulvaney confirmed this and told us to get over it
3. Trumptard admitted this himself on camera
4.  Parnas confirmed this was the only goal and that they had also tried to do it with the former president of Ukraine
5.  Trump knew about this and directed this entire process - per Sondland (Trump appointee and stooge) and Rudy and Parnas and Mulvaney


If this were Obama the Senate Republicans would have already convicted and Lindsey Graham would right now be helping build the gallows on the White House front lawn

Oh yeah, and the GAO said that Trump broke the law by withholding aide
You saw that reported yesterday of Faux News... right?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/16/us/politics/gao-trump-ukraine.html









Besides Trump (the President) having an obligation within his legal right to seek investigation that the left fail to tell you. There’s this.....

Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: AbrahamG on January 18, 2020, 01:12:07 AM
Besides Trump (the President) having an obligation within his legal right to seek investigation that the left fail to tell you. There’s this.....



Left or right, the lesbian from South Carolina is a total piece of shit.  (S)he is what is wrong with politics and would be an argument for term limits even though I am against them.  He will do, say, take the side of whatever will keep him in office.  A pundit would say he does whatever is politically expedient. 
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 18, 2020, 10:46:17 AM
....but be ready for Kavanaugh 2.0
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Irongrip400 on January 18, 2020, 11:46:11 AM
Are we not allowed to withhold aid to a foreign nation if we suspect they are up to no good?
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: JustPlaneJane on January 18, 2020, 04:47:33 PM
Are we not allowed to withhold aid to a foreign nation if we suspect they are up to no good?

Trump Had Right to Withhold Ukraine Funds: GAO is Wrong
by Alan M. Dershowitz
January 17, 2020 at 7:00 pm

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15462/trump-had-right-to-withhold-ukraine-funds-gao-is
Title: Re: Breaking News:Lindsey Graham flip flops - says Impeachment Trial needs WITNESSES
Post by: Slapper on January 18, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
Are we not allowed to withhold aid to a foreign nation if we suspect they are up to no good?

Yes.

Then again, Turley, a constitutional law expert, told Schiff right in the face that what he was carrying out was essentially the same thing he was accusing Trump of, power grab, and AS kept on going like nothing happened.

Schiff and Pelosi know their days are numbered.