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Title: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2020, 10:01:50 PM
I’m Not even close to being ready for this  :'(
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2020, 10:11:59 PM
I’m Not even close to being ready for this  :'(

If you were living in Hawaii that would put him at about 35 years old.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2020, 10:21:05 PM
If you were living in Hawaii that would put him at about 35 years old.

He’s almost 23. I’d be happy with 35...lol
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: pellius on January 28, 2020, 10:30:04 PM
He’s almost 23. I’d be happy with 35...lol

Coach, how old were you when you moved out? Most from our generation were sent packing before they hit 21. Either for college or they were working and wanted to be out on their own asap. I had to hit the road at 18.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Twaddle on January 28, 2020, 10:31:37 PM
Is he joining the NFL?   ???
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Theoak* on January 28, 2020, 10:34:40 PM
I’m Not even close to being ready for this  :'(

I actually planned for this well in advance, he will be given my first property I ever purchased which is 2 minutes drive from where I currently reside.  He is 2, next generation has basically little to no chance at being property homeowners in the near future.  Median house price is 800-1million in my neck of the woods.

 
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2020, 10:40:12 PM
Is he joining the NFL?   ???

Keyboard warrior talks a lot of shit for someone that’s never been seen
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: TTfit on January 28, 2020, 10:44:32 PM
He’s almost 23. I’d be happy with 35...lol

5 years too late. Parents raising their kids to be snowflakes.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Moontrane on January 28, 2020, 10:44:53 PM
He’s almost 23. I’d be happy with 35...lol

I moved out at 23...after 6 years in the military.   :D

It can be both a relief and worry when a kid move out.  Just set the best example and give
advice at the right times.

Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Twaddle on January 28, 2020, 10:52:24 PM
Keyboard warrior talks a lot of shit for someone that’s never been seen

I'll take that as a no.   :'(
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: kreator on January 28, 2020, 10:58:32 PM
It doesn‘t matter how you feel about it, the sooner he moves on his own the better. The worst thing parents can do to their son is sheltering him from the world. Your son wants to be free which is a man‘s innate instinct from the time he is born. Don‘t sweat it.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2020, 10:59:36 PM
I moved out at 23...after 6 years in the military.   :D

It can be both a relief and worry when a kid move out.  Just set the best example and give
advice at the right times.



For sure. He’s off to a good start. He and his brother started a business 5 years ago save quite a bit of money (he’s crazy good with money) pays himself enough to save and meet his expenses, never been in trouble.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 28, 2020, 11:03:28 PM
It doesn‘t matter how you feel about it, the sooner he moves on his own the better. The worst thing parents can do to their son is sheltering him from the world. Your son wants to be free which is a man‘s innate instinct from the time he is born. Don‘t sweat it.

I knew it coming sooner or later. Just emotionally not ready. Since he was 11/2-2 I’ve raised him until he was 9. He was an underwater baby (midwife) I delivered him (with the midwifes hands under mine, cut his cord, weighed him, first to hold him, etc
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: kreator on January 28, 2020, 11:17:15 PM
I knew it coming sooner or later. Just emotionally not ready. Since he was 11/2-2 I’ve raised him until he was 9. He was an underwater baby (midwife) I delivered him (with the midwifes hands under mine, cut his cord, weighed him, first to hold him, etc

Any normal father would feel this way. Grab a six pack and get drunk together, celebrate, this is his second birth.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Henda on January 28, 2020, 11:21:36 PM
That sucks mate I absolutely dread my kids ever moving out
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Kwon on January 28, 2020, 11:32:15 PM
5 years too late. Parents raising their kids to be snowflakes.

Tell that to Croatia, North Caucasus (Chechnya etc) Asia and the MiddleEast!

Things are different these days than in the 70s and 80s in Europe as well.

(https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/young-adults-moving-from-parents-age-data-1.jpg)

Middle East and North Africa


Young adults still living with their parents can be found across the Arab world, where familial bonds are highly valued.

In Egypt, it's customary for young adults to live with their parents until marriage, ABC News' Randa Ali in Cairo reports. (lol, what if they never get married)

Alia, 26, of Cario, said there's a dynamic in Egyptian homes where you are still seen as a "kid" even if you are approaching 30. Young adults choose to live at home because it's "just how things are done" and it's not easy to go against the grain, she said.

"I live with my parents and would like to move out, but doing so would be seen as resentment toward home, which is not the case," Alia told ABC News. "Besides, it would be very draining in terms of arguments and could ruin my relationship with [my parents], which is something I value dearly and wouldn’t want to risk.”

“Even if, hypothetically, I was able to convince them," she added, "the move would put them and me under scrutiny from friend and family because it is an unorthodox situation."

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Generally speaking (and that is very very over generalized), for Chinese family, it is not uncommon for adult children to live with their parents. Chinese culture traditionally favors big families where many generations of family members living under one roof.

Traditionally, female children only move out when they're married and move to their husbands home. Male children usually “separate” the inherited properties after their parents passed. Younger male children would sometimes be given separate properties to start on their own, but still belong to the same family (share the same family temple and everything).

This is particularly true in Southern provinces, where many generations of many branches of the same family living in the same, huge, community complex.

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Japan

In conservative families, it's even expected for a man to live with his parents forever even after marriage. The idea is that it's the children's turn to look after their parents, so it's not that they're not independent.

Is it normal in Japan for a single, 35 year old man to live with his parents?
Well, it's normal, but conservatively you're expected to be married by that age.
And if you're not married for one reason or another, a lot of parents do insist on the son to live away.

However, living with parents itself is not considered a bad thing at all if the son has a job, is paying for utilities and food, and is offering a helping hand to the parents.

That said, in reality there are many 35-year-old single "parasites" who rely most things on their parents, from housework to payment.
This is considered a bad thing (although it's unfortunately normal).

By the way, Japan doesn't share the custom of sending your kids to a dorm once they're 18. If college or work is commutable from home, they stay there. Here in Japan, housing is often expensive and work can be quite hard especially for newbies, so in a way it's practical. A lot of girls are even expected to live either with her parents or her husband.

But if you're a Japanese girl, and you meet a Japanese guy who's 35, single and lives with his parents, you do tend to think, "Could he be a mama's boy?"

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Men, African-Americans, Hispanics and less educated young people are particularly likely to live with their parents. But across all demographics, more and more people are living with Mom and Dad

For the first time in more than 130 years, Americans ages 18-34 are more likely to live with their parents than in any other living situation, according to a new analysis by the Pew Research Center.

Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: AbrahamG on January 29, 2020, 01:23:16 AM
That sucks mate I absolutely dread my kids ever moving out

In this case it appears to be a good thing.  Coach's son seems to have his act together and is growing as a young man.  It is a sign of growth and also that coach did a good job of raising a young man ready to contribute to society.  For me, yes like coach I'll miss having him around every day.  But it will be a relief when I know that my son has made it. 
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 29, 2020, 01:51:57 AM
Shows he has his shit together. Good for him in that aspect.
Hard yes, but just a matter of time I guess.

I was out at 17 (living in various friends basements) back home at 19,then out for good at 22.
Things are different these days, many snowflakes will never leave Ma's basement,and just be a keyboard warrior for life.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Army of One on January 29, 2020, 02:09:39 AM
Shows he has his shit together. Good for him in that aspect.
Hard yes, but just a matter of time I guess.

I was out at 17 (living in various friends basements) back home at 19,then out for good at 22.
Things are different these days, many snowflakes will never leave Ma's basement,and just be a keyboard warrior for life.

It isn't that at all, wages have stagnated and house prices have gone up 5x with no increase in wage.Jobs have become a minefield, needing degrees, 10 phase single and group interviews and 5 years experience just to get minimum wage. Add to the fact now 80% of women only want the top 15% of men and only settle for less once they hit their 30s.So an average young guy faces the prospect of spending money from his shitty job just to pay rent because he can't afford a house, and with no chance of finding a stable girlfriend to wife because they all want to share the top looking guys on tinder. I don't blame any young guy for checking out in this day and age.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: robcguns on January 29, 2020, 02:30:52 AM
That is gonna be a sad day.I know I don’t look forward to it at all.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 29, 2020, 03:17:29 AM
It isn't that at all, wages have stagnated and house prices have gone up 5x with no increase in wage.Jobs have become a minefield, needing degrees, 10 phase single and group interviews and 5 years experience just to get minimum wage. Add to the fact now 80% of women only want the top 15% of men and only settle for less once they hit their 30s.So an average young guy faces the prospect of spending money from his shitty job just to pay rent because he can't afford a house, and with no chance of finding a stable girlfriend to wife because they all want to share the top looking guys on tinder. I don't blame any young guy for checking out in this day and age.

No, you are right, the ones who may wanna move out can have a tough time of it. Prices are insane. (1 BR apartments for 1500.00 a month around here).

My 2 kids are just getting going (one finished college and just getting going w/ work, one has one more year (decided to go back for post-grad Masters), they wont be affording anything on their own for a while.
They do work and we make them pay for their own shit (phone, car stuff, etc). They dont like what we eat so they get their own food as well.

They can stay here as long as they want or need to. They way the house is setup works. (Upper/lower levels) so we can stay out of each others way.
They are quiet, shy, never in trouble, don't drink or drug, so its pretty easy...
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: XFACTOR on January 29, 2020, 03:49:44 AM
I actually planned for this well in advance, he will be given my first property I ever purchased which is 2 minutes drive from where I currently reside.  He is 2, next generation has basically little to no chance at being property homeowners in the near future.  Median house price is 800-1million in my neck of the woods.

 

Good thinking man just did this for both of mine as well. Two condos downtown both walking distance. I’m renting both with a 5% cap rate. Home ownership doesn’t happen here for people until mid thirties. This way I can get them out quicker but safely and have a little influence on their paths they choose.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Powerlift66 on January 29, 2020, 03:54:55 AM
Good thinking man just did this for both of mine as well. Two condos downtown both walking distance. I’m renting both with a 5% cap rate. Home ownership doesn’t happen here for people until mid thirties. This way I can get them out quicker but safely and have a little influence on their paths they choose.

Nice job!
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: XFACTOR on January 29, 2020, 05:10:53 AM
Nice job!

I talk a big talk now, about getting them out early but something tells me it's not going to be that easy when the time comes  :)  I think giving them their own place will lessen the blow.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: stuntmovie on January 29, 2020, 09:19:11 AM
The OAK, POWER, and a couple other GetBiggers said it damn right!

If your kids are 21 or less ... they most likely never will be able to buy a home of their own due to today's high real estate prices.

In the 1950's a $12,000 San Francisco home in the Sunset district is now close to a million plus!

And that's most likely true in every major US city.

If you are a federal employee today in the SF Bay Area ... it's most likely that you could not buy a home close to yur place of employment ... so you'll end up driving an hour or more just getting to work on time.

In order to live in a your own homme somewhat close to your place of employment you'd have to pay $700,000+ to be within 60 to 90 minutes of the city.

This situation has been a Hawaii problem for a good number of years where many family members live together in one home in which they inherited from their grandparents.

So you can expect your kids to join the homeless population unless you solve this problem before it happens.

Hawaii is somewhar unique in that 'homeless camps' are situated reght next door to multi-million dollar condos.

Maybe Pellius can shoot some pictures of the present Ala Moana Beach  (Park) situation which will show us what we'll all be faceing in less tan 10 years from from now.

Foreign investment in the State of Hawaii is one of the main causes of this dier situation.

Maybe Pellius can elaborate ... but it's too damn late to solve this homeless problem!

It's just gonna get worse!

Look at Mumbai!

Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Theoak* on January 29, 2020, 09:28:07 AM
Good thinking man just did this for both of mine as well. Two condos downtown both walking distance. I’m renting both with a 5% cap rate. Home ownership doesn’t happen here for people until mid thirties. This way I can get them out quicker but safely and have a little influence on their paths they choose.

My properties are also placed under a family trust, so although he will own what I pass down, there will be 0 to no chance of a woman taking him to the cleaners.  Goes without saying for any kids we have in the future. 
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 29, 2020, 11:19:20 AM
The OAK, POWER, and a couple other GetBiggers said it damn right!

If your kids are 21 or less ... they most likely never will be able to buy a home of their own due to today's high real estate prices.

In the 1950's a $12,000 San Francisco home in the Sunset district is now close to a million plus!

And that's most likely true in every major US city.

If you are a federal employee today in the SF Bay Area ... it's most likely that you could not buy a home close to yur place of employment ... so you'll end up driving an hour or more just getting to work on time.

In order to live in a your own homme somewhat close to your place of employment you'd have to pay $700,000+ to be within 60 to 90 minutes of the city.

This situation has been a Hawaii problem for a good number of years where many family members live together in one home in which they inherited from their grandparents.

So you can expect your kids to join the homeless population unless you solve this problem before it happens.

Hawaii is somewhar unique in that 'homeless camps' are situated reght next door to multi-million dollar condos.

Maybe Pellius can shoot some pictures of the present Ala Moana Beach  (Park) situation which will show us what we'll all be faceing in less tan 10 years from from now.

Foreign investment in the State of Hawaii is one of the main causes of this dier situation.

Maybe Pellius can elaborate ... but it's too damn late to solve this homeless problem!

It's just gonna get worse!

Look at Mumbai!


Don't live in a major U.S. city and you solve the problem.  Anyone who pays that much for a house is an idiot.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Primemuscle on January 29, 2020, 11:39:55 AM
He’s almost 23. I’d be happy with 35...lol

Well you never know, he could be back at anytime. One of my grandsons who is 22 years old moved out last year. He was on his own for maybe three months before he moved back with his pregnant fiancee. My other grandson is in his mid 20's. He lives in Germany where it is not uncommon for kids to live at home until they are older. He has never moved out. He has a studio apartment with a separate entrance in the daylight walkout basement of his parents home. 
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Dave D on January 29, 2020, 12:09:57 PM
Well you never know, he could be back at anytime. One of my grandsons who is 22 years old moved out last year. He was on his own for maybe three months before he moved back with his pregnant fiancee. My other grandson is in his mid 20's. He lives in Germany where it is not uncommon for kids to live at home until they are older. He has never moved out. He has a studio apartment with a separate entrance in the daylight walkout basement of his parents home. 

That's interesting but the real question is are they sexual?
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: IRON CROSS on January 29, 2020, 12:21:17 PM
That's interesting but the real question is are they sexual?


 ;D ;D ;D

They must be proud of Saggys glory holes 'achievements'.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Atlas pump on January 29, 2020, 12:23:15 PM
How does one even have a mature lifestyle living with there parents. I couldnt imagine having to bring my girlfriend to a bedroom in there house while my parents and sisters roam around. The lack of privacy and freedom alone would be enough incentive to move out



After a certain age it doesnt feel right to put that pressure on my parents, despite the love between us.  Only reason I could otherwise see myself living at home is low income, followed by lack of education, and debt. Other then that what good reason does a grown educated man have for living at home?




Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Twaddle on January 29, 2020, 12:49:21 PM
How does one even have a mature lifestyle living with there parents. I couldnt imagine having to bring my girlfriend to a bedroom in there house while my parents and sisters roam around. The lack of privacy and freedom alone would be enough incentive to move out



After a certain age it doesnt feel right to put that pressure on my parents, despite the love between us.  Only reason I could otherwise see myself living at home is low income, followed by lack of education, and debt. Other then that what good reason does a grown educated man have for living at home?


That's a little harsh, don't you think?  Maybe Coach's son pays him rent?  Maybe he's saving up money for a house?  There are many logical reasons, why he's still living at home. 
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Atlas pump on January 29, 2020, 01:12:52 PM
I am referring to those in there late twenties an older.


Early twenties is a kid. Most people are still figuring out how to use there cocks, never mind graduating and having there first entry level job.




Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Twaddle on January 29, 2020, 01:14:47 PM
I am referring to those in there late twenties an older.


Early twenties is a kid. Most people are still figuring out how to use there cocks, never mind graduating and having there first entry level job.



I see.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: deadz on January 29, 2020, 04:49:29 PM
I was out of my parents house permanently by 20. I see a lot of kids in their mid 20's + living with mommy and daddy, sad. My son was born with a Trust in his pocket, he's set. Probably won't need it, going to do big things in this World.   :)
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Primemuscle on January 29, 2020, 04:59:23 PM
How does one even have a mature lifestyle living with there parents. I couldnt imagine having to bring my girlfriend to a bedroom in there house while my parents and sisters roam around. The lack of privacy and freedom alone would be enough incentive to move out



After a certain age it doesnt feel right to put that pressure on my parents, despite the love between us.  Only reason I could otherwise see myself living at home is low income, followed by lack of education, and debt. Other then that what good reason does a grown educated man have for living at home?



One reason grown, mature children move home is to help care for their elderly or ill parents. At the point when a parent needs to be in an assisted living situation, It might be more cost effective and comfortable for the elder to remain in their home. It is a sacrifice few children are willing to make for their parents, at least in the U.S. It is more commonplace in many other countries.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: deadz on January 29, 2020, 05:03:05 PM
One reason grown, mature children move home is to help care for their elderly or ill parents. At the point when a parent needs to be in an assisted living situation, It might be more cost effective and comfortable for the elder to remain in their home. It is a sacrifice few children are willing to make for their parents, at least in the U.S. It is more commonplace in many other countries.
My parents worked hard and they now have 24/7 care with a care center a few steps from their condo . Only asshole parents would burden their children.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Atlas pump on January 29, 2020, 06:15:13 PM
It's more important now then ever for our parents to help us make it in todays fast paced economy.


Most of my friends who are doing well had education funds from there parents along with help on down payments for a house. Which seems like the reality now andays for generation snow flake.


That and I noticed a lot of tradesmen who graduated high school and went into a unionized trade. Most have there own house by 25. A frequent trend I noticed is most work in the city but commute and live on the outer skirts where houses are affordable.



For those that dont fall into these two categories. Most are screwed over my post secondary education debt, rent and a mixture of living with there parents until they can afford a house as they all say. Seems to be the common snowflake reply to why they are almost thirty living at home nowadays.

Parents who pay for there childs education will be leaps ahead of most.  Coach is a good parent in this regard. This is a huge burden that strongly effects most people once they hit the real world with 50,000k debt.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Dave D on January 29, 2020, 08:15:47 PM
One reason grown, mature children move home is to help care for their elderly or ill parents. At the point when a parent needs to be in an assisted living situation, It might be more cost effective and comfortable for the elder to remain in their home. It is a sacrifice few children are willing to make for their parents, at least in the U.S. It is more commonplace in many other countries.

Most people aren’t qualified to properly care for an adult who should be in an assisted living home.  But I understand your point.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Coach is Back! on January 29, 2020, 08:47:37 PM
That's a little harsh, don't you think?  Maybe Coach's son pays him rent?  Maybe he's saving up money for a house?  There are many logical reasons, why he's still living at home. 

I’ve never asked him nor would I ever ask him to pay rent and he pays himself about $70k per year.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: AbrahamG on January 29, 2020, 09:04:49 PM
I’ve never asked him nor would I ever ask him to pay rent and he pays himself about $70k per year.

I feel the same way.  My kids are welcome to stay home for as long as they like so long as they are productive members of society and respectful of their parents.  Save as much $ as they can so when they do move out they have a nice cushion.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: pellius on January 30, 2020, 02:58:33 AM
I’ve never asked him nor would I ever ask him to pay rent and he pays himself about $70k per year.

So you don't mind supporting him as an adult as long as he wants to?

One of the issues with men today is the problem of arrested development. Men just don't grow up like they use to a couple of generations ago. Part of being a man is being responsible for yourself. The idea of an adult making 70 grand a year still living rent free and supported by his parents would have just been embarrassing when I was his age.

I think it speaks well of your son that he wants to be out on his own and take care of himself.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 30, 2020, 03:46:57 AM
So you don't mind supporting him as an adult as long as he wants to?

One of the issues with men today is the problem of arrested development. Men just don't grow up like they use to a couple of generations ago. Part of being a man is being responsible for yourself. The idea of an adult making 70 grand a year still living rent free and supported by his parents would have just been embarrassing when I was his age.

I think it speaks well of your son that he wants to be out on his own and take care of himself.
But a person making $70,000 a year with no rent or bills if they saved the money would be financially secure for life in just a few years.  At that point I doubt they would care what anyone else thinks.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: Bevo on January 30, 2020, 05:25:32 AM
SF1900 works at autozone and does pretty well, him and Rory seem to be living pretty good

Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: AbrahamG on January 30, 2020, 06:46:59 AM
SF1900 works at autozone and does pretty well, him and Rory seem to be living pretty good



I think SF1900 received a healthy severance package when he left Sears and or Roebucks.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: pellius on January 30, 2020, 02:23:10 PM
But a person making $70,000 a year with no rent or bills if they saved the money would be financially secure for life in just a few years.  At that point I doubt they would care what anyone else thinks.

Of course, things are very easy when someone else is footing the bill. And it's not so much what others think of you but what you think of yourself. That's the issue nowadays. People are very comfortable having someone else take care of them rather than they take care of themselves.

There's something to be said for, "roughing it" in your early years.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: SF1900 on January 30, 2020, 03:01:17 PM
SF1900 works at autozone and does pretty well, him and Rory seem to be living pretty good



Rory makes more than I do, so he is the breadwinner.
Title: Re: Son is moving out
Post by: SF1900 on January 30, 2020, 03:03:47 PM
I think SF1900 received a healthy severance package when he left Sears and or Roebucks.

I spent all of my severance package.  ??? ??? :P :P