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Go to the 15 minute mark:
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Go to the 15 minute mark:
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Holy Shit.... somebody get EDDIE HALL on the phone...He is about to come out of retirement.
Reps with over 1000 POUNDS?????.... Whaaaaaaat?
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It didn’t look like he was struggling much either. He could have done a couple more I bet. I wonder what his true max is? Maybe 1100?
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It didn’t look like he was struggling much either. He could have done a couple more I bet. I wonder what his true max is? Maybe 1100?
It's hard for me to guess at that level...but I would have to think between 1050 and 1100. I'm not sure what his previous max was in contest. He may have hit 1050 already, but I can't recall. I'm pretty sure he was somewhere between 1010 and 1040.
I'm not sure if he's quite at 1100 yet...but he may be closer than anyone else at this point [besides Eddie].
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Yeah obviously he is very strong but doesn’t he weigh close to half that?no one here seems to ever compare weight to weight.
I’m much more impressed by a 220lber doing 600 than a 450 lber doing 1000.
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Yeah obviously he is very strong but doesn’t he weigh close to half that?no one here seems to ever compare weight to weight.
I’m much more impressed by a 220lber doing 600 than a 450 lber doing 1000.
It’s not a steady scale, weight-to-performance ratios.
The very heaviest weights will always be hoisted by the very biggest men.
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It’s not a steady scale, weight-to-performance ratios.
The very heaviest weights will always be hoisted by the very biggest men.
No I get that.And he is a monster of a man. Just to me seeing a 250lber deadlift 700 would be more impressive than a 450 hitting 1000.Nothing taken away from the monster as that weight would no doubt break me in two.
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It didn’t look like he was struggling much either. He could have done a couple more I bet. I wonder what his true max is? Maybe 1100?
Ehm...no :)
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He's still early in his prep for the Arnold, curious to see what he will hit this year on the E-Bar DL.
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Go to the 15 minute mark:
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Shit. That's mind blowing. :o
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People have no clue that his 1000 pound dead is like 1300 pounds at 5feet10
Thor has to move the bar more distance than normal lifters thus even more impressive
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
it natural plant based roids
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That's insane - thanks for posting Matt! Looks like he could have done 3 to 4 reps. I think Thor is going to be the first guy to break Eddie's record. He might do it this year at the Arnold. In one of his videos he says he thinks he'll do 500+ this year. Looks like he bulked up quite a bit also since he slimmed down a few months ago. He's gotta be 440-450ls now. His stomach is not too big either.
That said I think Eddie could have gone 510kg the day he lifted 500kg. If you look at videos of that lift you'll see that he had a little more left in the tank. But it almost killed him. So his muscles could handle it but not sure his heart would have taken that. His pulse was over 200 and they could not even read his blood pressure right after the lift.
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
All natural Icelandic genetics.
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I'm not sure if he's quite at 1100 yet...but he may be closer than anyone else at this point [besides Eddie].
There is also this new guy with 470 kg PR and 501 kg attempt - Ivan Makarov. Don’t know anything about him or his future plans but I remember reading that this was legit lift and he is training solely for the world record in deadlift.
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
On gear, no testing.
Thor was 385 off gear (or TRT clean out) a couple months back. Weighed in at 462 last week.
That plus doubling up on calories again.
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I think there are some questions regarding the weight with this guy.. Ivan makarov
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On gear, no testing.
The way it should be, no limits..
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I think there are some questions regarding the weight with this guy.. Ivan makarov
Who, Thor? He weighs himself on video all the time...
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On gear, no testing.
Thor was 385 off gear (or TRT clean out) a couple months back. Weighed in at 462 last week.
That plus doubling up on calories again.
Jesus Christ 462 that’s nuts.
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Yeah obviously he is very strong but doesn’t he weigh close to half that?no one here seems to ever compare weight to weight.
I’m much more impressed by a 220lber doing 600 than a 450 lber doing 1000.
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Very much more impressive in relative terms.
Though it’s still Might impressive pulling over 1000lbs & for reps. !!!
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
Ha ha ha 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
You’re Not Seriously asking that Question?????
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There is also this new guy with 470 kg PR and 501 kg attempt - Ivan Makarov. Don’t know anything about him or his future plans but I remember reading that this was legit lift and he is training solely for the world record in deadlift.
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Been keeping an eye on this guy. There's several people getting close to 1000#'s and it's pretty impressive to watch.
PS: sumo doesn't count
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Holy fuck, he could have done at least 1 more rep too!
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Huge deadlift!!
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Nosebleeds @13:00 - anyone like to guesstimate his systolic at that point?
Edit: plus crying blood from eyes and ears @15:46
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Its thors verticle diet?
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Strong mother effer
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i heard stan effarting had him on 9to10k calories mostly rice because he previous b4 stan had fatty liver and high bp
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Nosebleeds @13:00 - anyone like to guesstimate his systolic at that point?
Edit: plus crying blood from eyes and ears @15:46
So - how could Eddie have had more in him on that day? Or think he could beat that lift?
A lift like that...I would think for some of these max lifts, competitors may need months before they would be willing to try that again...but this was a particularly intense PR. To talk like he would just try it again and add 20-lb...needless to say - he's very ambitious!
I guess I just fear for his health, given how much that 1100-lb PR brought up his blood pressure and heart rate. :o
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What makes Halthors lift even more amazing is that it doesn't look like he was using a deadlift suit. Ivan Makarov was using one as was Eddie when he did the 500. Crazy.
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Are these guys on gear or they get tested?
Probably the dumbest question I have ever seen posted here.
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What makes Halthors lift even more amazing is that it doesn't look like he was using a deadlift suit. Ivan Makarov was using one as was Eddie when he did the 500. Crazy.
Yes. But nothing prevents him from using it. I am sure if it helped him he would have already tried for the record with a suit. And Hall has deadlifted over 460 kg without a suit. That's about 15 lbs more than Hafthor was doing for reps. Here with Arnold looking on!
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Yes. But nothing prevents him from using it. I am sure if it helped him he would have already tried for the record with a suit. And Hall has deadlifted over 460 kg without a suit. That's about 15 lbs more than Hafthor was doing for reps. Here with Arnold looking on!
As you said - if it helped him, I'm sure he would have already tried for the record with a suit.
I would just add one small point - as you suggested, Eddie probably doesn't think the suit is helping him, so he doesn't use it. But how could a full suit not be helping him? Are suits less of an advantage as the weight goes up so high like that? If so, why? Are suits less of an advantage for extremely large lifters? Eddie appears to be wearing the bottom half of the suit in the clip above - does the bottom half offer most of the advantage?
Maybe it has something to do with the top half of the suit being so tight, and constricting his breathing in a way that makes whatever advantage it gives not worth it, thus sticking to the advantage of the bottom half alone, with more freedom of either breathing, or movement in general.
Only because world class athletes can definitely be INSANE sometimes...does anyone know if Eddie is at any real chance of death here? I have not seen too many elite strength performances that featured this much subjective maximum intensity...or absolute maximum intensity for that matter.
I fear for Eddie's health, obviously. Seems like a good bloke who I could spend several "quids" on somewhere in a UK tavern, buying him fish and chips [no idea if this makes sense, or if I may be combining Australian and UK English with a Newfoundland menu. ;D].
I recall Vince Goodrum once reporting that a powerlifter at one of the Arnold Classic expos shat himself...even that is not necessarily as strong of evidence for top intensity, like Eddie's face bleeding, high blood pressure, etc, featured here.
Worth repeating - [1] Eddie seems like a good bloke, and [2] I fear for Eddie's health...........
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Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
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Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
Eddie is not dumb Marty, just the opposite, very animated fun loving guy.... why would you say that?
He did a 1100 pound lift, achieved all he could in powerlifting and retired with all of his health/joints intact
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On gear, no testing.
Thor was 385 off gear (or TRT clean out) a couple months back. Weighed in at 462 last week.
That plus doubling up on calories again.
He was actually playing a prank on the cameraman, he shows how in the video. He isn't 462 (yet)
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I've been thinking more on this (Yeah, I have no life... And I bet one of the guys on here with more of a PL background than a BB background can probably point me in the right direction too - I am definitely not the first person to have thought of this...)
But since work done is calculated by multiplying the force by the amount of movement of an object (W = F * d) (think foot-pounds here if you have to)
And some guys are taller than others, so d is larger, we could then divide that by their weight to give a true 'strongest b4stard' award... No..? (A real power-to-weight ratio)
So why don't the World Record people do this simple calc? (In before someone tells me they do LOL ;D I know F-all about weight lifting...)
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He was actually playing a prank on the cameraman, he shows how in the video. He isn't 462 (yet)
I didn't watch the video, but I seem to recall the thumbnail had a question mark next to the number 462.
I think Brian Shaw was 450-lb at one of the Arnold Classics. Either 2016 or 2017 [or maybe both]. Thor is around the same height [half an inch taller], and I could definitely see him hit 462-lb.
Boggles the mind.
Most posters on Sherdog [MMA forum] felt that Bjornsson could beat Conor McGregor in a fight.
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Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
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As you said - if it helped him, I'm sure he would have already tried for the record with a suit.
I would just add one small point - as you suggested, Eddie probably doesn't think the suit is helping him, so he doesn't use it. But how could a full suit not be helping him? Are suits less of an advantage as the weight goes up so high like that? If so, why? Are suits less of an advantage for extremely large lifters? Eddie appears to be wearing the bottom half of the suit in the clip above - does the bottom half offer most of the advantage?
Maybe it has something to do with the top half of the suit being so tight, and constricting his breathing in a way that makes whatever advantage it gives not worth it, thus sticking to the advantage of the bottom half alone, with more freedom of either breathing, or movement in general.
Only because world class athletes can definitely be INSANE sometimes...does anyone know if Eddie is at any real chance of death here? I have not seen too many elite strength performances that featured this much subjective maximum intensity...or absolute maximum intensity for that matter.
I fear for Eddie's health, obviously. Seems like a good bloke who I could spend several "quids" on somewhere in a UK tavern, buying him fish and chips [no idea if this makes sense, or if I may be combining Australian and UK English with a Newfoundland menu. ;D].
I recall Vince Goodrum once reporting that a powerlifter at one of the Arnold Classic expos shat himself...even that is not necessarily as strong of evidence for top intensity, like Eddie's face bleeding, high blood pressure, etc, featured here.
Worth repeating - [1] Eddie seems like a good bloke, and [2] I fear for Eddie's health...........
Oh I am sure the suit helped him lift 500 kg. But he has out lifted Thor numerous times in other contests without a suit. Nothing prevents Thor from lifting with a suit to beat the record. He has himself used suits.
Look at this screenshot from the 2016 DL competition backstage. Thor is wearing a suit and so is Eddie. Eddie did 500 kg and Thor tapped out at 440 kg.
They wear shirts to hide the suits.
In the 462kg lift in front of Arnold it is noticeable how fast Eddie unwraps the straps and gets up to celebrate after the lift. So in that instance his health was not feared for. But many feared for his health after the 465 kg and then shortly after that the 500 kg lifts in 2016. He did not get up fast! ;D
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Eddi is dumb may die deadlifting , on alot of dope
He retired bra. Eddie looks to be pretty smart. He is witty and mischievous like Arnold. And now they are going in business together!
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I didn't watch the video, but I seem to recall the thumbnail had a question mark next to the number 462.
I think Brian Shaw was 450-lb at one of the Arnold Classics. Either 2016 or 2017 [or maybe both]. Thor is around the same height [half an inch taller], and I could definitely see him hit 462-lb.
Boggles the mind.
Most posters on Sherdog [MMA forum] felt that Bjornsson could beat Conor McGregor in a fight.
I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.
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I've been thinking more on this (Yeah, I have no life... And I bet one of the guys on here with more of a PL background than a BB background can probably point me in the right direction too - I am definitely not the first person to have thought of this...)
But since work done is calculated by multiplying the force by the amount of movement of an object (W = F * d) (think foot-pounds here if you have to)
And some guys are taller than others, so d is larger, we could then divide that by their weight to give a true 'strongest b4stard' award... No..? (A real power-to-weight ratio)
So why don't the World Record people do this simple calc? (In before someone tells me they do LOL ;D I know F-all about weight lifting...)
That is not practical. In your scenario a taller guy could lift less than a shorter guy and then still win! In the end he did not lift as much though. So I think it is fine to just go by who lifts the most. The same argument could be made that the taller guys have a lot more mass giving them an advantage. When you double the size of an object the mass actually increases 8 times! So if two people have identical proportions but the one man is 48" tall and the other is 96" tall the larger man would be 8 times heavier!?
Here's a sphere's calculation for reference: Doubling the diameter increases the volume by 8, because you have twice as much depth, twice as much width, and twice as much height.
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I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.
Yes I second that. If he got a hold of Connor he would crush him easily. If Connor got lucky and kicked him in the balls and then stomped his head while he was on the ground he could win though. But I think 9 out of 10 times Thor would kill the little guy.
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Deadlifting with straps is cheating.
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I think he could beat him too. Hes to big for Connor to handle.sometimes in cases of extreme size and strength both of those matter.
Weight classes do exist for a reason...I just have a hard time assessing all of these hypothetical strongman vs. MMA fights.
If Thor could beat Conor, is it safe to say that men his size and strength [who exist in very small numbers, and are only basically seen in the WSM and similar lineups] could beat any 155-lb fighters?
If that's the case, what about 170-lb fighters? After speaking to some people, and reading online, it seems that perhaps 170-lb is the division where you may see guys that size beat the strongmen, even those Thor's size?
I would say for sure any heavyweight would be able to beat the biggest and strongest strongmen, and if the biggest and strongest like Thor could beat any of the 155-lb fighters, the question in my mind is "When does skill outweigh strength and size?"
Would it be 170-lb, 185-lb, 205-lb, or the heavyweights? As said, I know the heavyweights could take the strongmen in fights...but could most guys in the 170-lb class do so? How about the champion at 170-lb? If not, then what about among the 185-lb class?
Would it be safe to say that a prime Georges St-Pierre could beat Thor in a fight...or would Thor's size be too much for GSP too, in addition to Conor and other 155-lb fighters?
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There's an old video of Connor and Thor messing around in the gym.
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There's an old video of Connor and Thor messing around in the gym.
Here is a good breakdown of that video by TheWeasle:
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We’re now seeing a whole new breed of muscle/strength athlete emerging with the absolute over saturation of drugs-and-hormone use/abuse across many platforms of demographics and disciplines.
We’re also starting to witness the fallout.
Lots of superfreaks will be super-dropping and Coleman-ing out in the coming years.
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He was actually playing a prank on the cameraman, he shows how in the video. He isn't 462 (yet)
Ahh, gotcha, thx...
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I have been deadlift-obsessed for decades :D
Cailer Woolam has done some insane lifts while being "skinny". This Jamal dude hit an all-time world record the other day, just insane. Just look at it!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8FKO_Cpw2u/?igshid=xflspjz4fld1
Here's Cailer:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4q7jJPJfBZ/?igshid=hojqn7ex88he
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I have been deadlift-obsessed for decades :D
Cailer Woolam has done some insane lifts while being "skinny". This Jamal dude hit an all-time world record the other day, just insane. Just look at it!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8FKO_Cpw2u/?igshid=xflspjz4fld1
Here's Cailer:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4q7jJPJfBZ/?igshid=hojqn7ex88he
Damn !!!
Huge deadlifts - What weights are they & How Much are they deadlifting.
Always my so so lift out of Squat - Bench - Deadlift.
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I have been deadlift-obsessed for decades :D
Cailer Woolam has done some insane lifts while being "skinny". This Jamal dude hit an all-time world record the other day, just insane. Just look at it!
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8FKO_Cpw2u/?igshid=xflspjz4fld1
Here's Cailer:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4q7jJPJfBZ/?igshid=hojqn7ex88he
Sumo doesn't count. :-*
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Damn !!!
Huge deadlifts - What weights are they & How Much are they deadlifting.
Always my so so lift out of Squat - Bench - Deadlift.
If I'm reading right they are doing 950-970 lbs @ body weights of 215-220 lbs.?
If so then it seems these little fellows are much stronger pound for pound than the bigger guys like Half-Thor:
950/220 = 4.3
1050/350 = 3.0
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If I'm reading right they are doing 950-970 lbs @ body weights of 215-220 lbs.?
If so then it seems these little fellows are much stronger pound for pound than the bigger guys like Half-Thor:
950/220 = 4.3
1050/350 = 3.0
Hafthor Bjornsson and Brian Shaw may be closer to 450-lb, so yeah - you're absolutely right about that.
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On gear, no testing.
Thor was 385 off gear (or TRT clean out) a couple months back. Weighed in at 462 last week.
That plus doubling up on calories again.
He wasn't 462 pounds last week. Watch the video! He was pushing up on a rack to make himself weigh 210kg. It was a JOKE. He says so himself. He weighed himself 5 seconds later and was 196.5 kgs (433 pounds): =819
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Sumo doesn't count. :-*
Cailer has pulled at least 881 conventional. These are weights that are hard to believe and seem almost impossible for a guy his size. A few years ago few would have believed these feats are even possible. The sumo pulls are insane as well, if you look at his stance, no suit, hook grip and no belt either.
Tom Martin is another impressive puller, I think he coaches Cailer.
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Cailer has pulled at least 881 conventional. These are weights that are hard to believe and seem almost impossible for a guy his size. A few years ago few would have believed these feats are even possible. The sumo pulls are insane as well, if you look at his stance, no suit, hook grip and no belt either.
Tom Martin is another impressive puller, I think he coaches Cailer.
Lamar Gant - IIRC is still the only Man to pull 5x his body weight !!!!
300kg 660lbs At 60kg 132lbs body weight back in the late 70s or early 80s
Phenomenal lifting - that said he had a somewhat strange physical structure,
He deadlifted in the Narrow Stance “Conventional” Style.
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Lamar Gant - IIRC is still the only Man to pull 5x his body weight !!!!
300kg 660lbs At 60kg 132lbs body weight back in the late 70s or early 80s
Phenomenal lifting - that said he had a somewhat strange physical structure,
He deadlifted in the Narrow Stance “Conventional” Style.
Yes, unfortunately his abnormally long arms takes away from his records in the deadlift a bit. These new guys obviously have structures suited to lifting but they don't look obviously abnormal.