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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Army of One on February 09, 2020, 10:37:48 AM
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Is that another thicker older brother of Groink?
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WHAAAAAT THE FUCK????
Is he lifting HORSES with that neck???... DAAAAAAAMN!!!!!
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Thick neck of peace
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Looks like he was trying to offset the ears by making the neck wider than them
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Looks like he was trying to offset the ears by making the neck wider than them
My neck is thick, but not that thick
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His shoulders are too high.
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I think I met him. He used to own a high intensity gym in Belmar, NJ. He has since moved to Florida. His gym was like a museum to Arthur Jones. Full set of classic Nautilus machines. A full set of MedX machines. His neck is freaky. My job volunteered me for him to demonstrate high intensity training at his gym almost 20 years ago to show the guys. He actually tied kill me in his demonstration. ;D Each exercise was one set to failure with plenty of forced reps. The first exercise was the Nautilus leg press. When I failed he would help me get more forced reps. I staggered off the machine thinking I was going to another exercise machine. Nope, he had me sprint on a stationary bike in between each machine. At the end of less than 20 minutes of exercise He said I looked sick and told me to lie flat until I recovered. Anyone involved with the gym followed Arthur Jones protocol. If anyone can confirm that's the same guy let me know. His name is Joel Waldman. This is him in his later years.
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I think I met him. He used to own a high intensity gym in Belmar, NJ. He has since moved to Florida. His gym was like a museum to Arthur Jones. Full set of classic Nautilus machines. A full set of MedX machines. His neck is freaky. My job volunteered me for him to demonstrate high intensity training at his gym almost 20 years ago to show the guys. He actually tied kill me in his demonstration. ;D Each exercise was one set to failure with plenty of forced reps. The first exercise was the Nautilus leg press. When I failed he would help me get more forced reps. I staggered off the machine thinking I was going to another exercise machine. Nope, he had me sprint on a stationary bike in between each machine. At the end of less than 20 minutes of exercise He said I looked sick and told me to lie flat until I recovered. Anyone involved with the gym followed Arthur Jones protocol. If anyone can confirm that's the same guy let me know. His name is Joel Waldman. This is him in his later years.
The Body Shop?
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The Body Shop?
It's not there anymore. It was right on the Ocean ave facing the Ocean. He moved to Florida. Might have been called Belmar Fitness.
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Neck wider than Heath.
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(https://www.precisiontraining.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Joel-Waldman-1-2.jpg)
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Strong neck of peace
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I think I met him. He used to own a high intensity gym in Belmar, NJ. He has since moved to Florida. His gym was like a museum to Arthur Jones. Full set of classic Nautilus machines. A full set of MedX machines. His neck is freaky. My job volunteered me for him to demonstrate high intensity training at his gym almost 20 years ago to show the guys. He actually tied kill me in his demonstration. ;D Each exercise was one set to failure with plenty of forced reps. The first exercise was the Nautilus leg press. When I failed he would help me get more forced reps. I staggered off the machine thinking I was going to another exercise machine. Nope, he had me sprint on a stationary bike in between each machine. At the end of less than 20 minutes of exercise He said I looked sick and told me to lie flat until I recovered. Anyone involved with the gym followed Arthur Jones protocol. If anyone can confirm that's the same guy let me know. His name is Joel Waldman. This is him in his later years.
Interesting. I found this post from him regarding his neck training:
If anyone is interested in how I trained my neck in those years, it is quite simple...mostly manual resistance negatives provided by a very good and very strong training partner. We trained neck once per week and would do 6 to 10 10second negative only all out reps on six exercises...posterior extension, anterior flexion, lateral flexion both right and left and cervical rotation in both directions.
My neck would pump at least an inch to an inch and a half in the 8 minutes it took to perform those exercises. In addition, I always performed an exercise we called top deadlift/negative shrug in a power rack...bar starting mid thigh in a partial squatty pre-shrugged position and dragged to the highest position possible and then resisted on the way down to a fully stretched unshrugged position.
This was performed for one set of about 10 reps 2 to 4 times per month...always trying to work up to over 1000lbs.
Nothing fancy here, just heavy weights, reasonably good form, and killer intensity.
http://www.drdarden.com/readTopic.do?id=411888&pageNo=2
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Waldman's Youtube channel - .
Claims his neck was a hair under 23" at its peak. He's 71 now, and is down to an 18 1/2" neck. He was at his peak #275 at 6' 2".
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My neck is naturally thick, I don't need to get it any bigger, but I have seen some dudes, even some bodybuilders, who appear to have a skinny neck, idk why
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Waldman's Youtube channel - .
Claims his neck was a hair under 23" at its peak. He's 71 now, and is down to an 18 1/2" neck. He was at his peak #275 at 6' 2".
23inches, jesus. When you think tysons was around 20.is 23 the record for a non obese person?
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Paul Anderson also had a thick neck
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Waldman's Youtube channel - .
Claims his neck was a hair under 23" at its peak. He's 71 now, and is down to an 18 1/2" neck. He was at his peak #275 at 6' 2".
Waldmans golf vs Derek Anthony's boxing?
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23inches, jesus. When you think tysons was around 20.is 23 the record for a non obese person?
It's got to be close, there are some in the NFL in the 21 - 22" range. Joe Ladnier was around 22 1/2" -
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57001.0;attach=67957;image).
I remember Tommy Wishbone said his was around 22.5" Kazmaier was 22 ish". Ken Patera was 22" too.
The largest neck on a strength athlete supposedly belonged to Jim Voronin at 25", but I've never seen a pic of what condition he was in for that measurement -
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=83561.0;attach=89560).
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(https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/entertainment/2018/12/charles-wide-neck-charles-mcdowell-meets-his-polar-opposite-a-guy-with-an-extremely-skinny-neck/_jcr_content/par/image.dynimg.1280.q75.jpg/v1543793966610/neck%2Bman%2BEscambia%2BCounty%2BSheriffs%2BOffice%2B1120%2Bfacebook.jpg)
(https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/neck-2c16.png?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=414%2C545&ssl=1)
(https://lastfm.freetls.fastly.net/i/u/ar0/1d85f227c8ad0b2522cf944496d3fb71.jpg)
(https://meme.xyz/uploads/posts/t/45327-daddy-long-neck-meets-wide-neck.jpg)
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81maY6YdWBL._SS500_.jpg)
(https://pics.loveforquotes.com/wide-neck-and-long-neck-got-themselves-a-neck-massage-38453554.png)
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I am disapoint, son...
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Nautilus had a great neck machine. Worked all angles. Jones was a genius. You don't find them anymore in any of the gyms I've been to. Neck strength and durability is so important in contact sports but so neglected. The only way I can work my neck conveniently is just using hand resistance. Sucks because my neck has gotten a lot more skinny since the days when I would use that neck machine religiously. And I'm constantly having neck pain and stiffness.
The first one was taken last Saturday and the second one in 1998 (BTW, that was my Raytheon badge picture not a police mug shot).
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Looks like he was trying to offset the ears by making the neck wider than them
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Nautilus had a great neck machine. Worked all angles. Jones was a genius. You don't find them anymore in any of the gyms I've been to. Neck strength and durability is so important in contact sports but so neglected. The only way I can work my neck conveniently is just using hand resistance. Sucks because my neck has gotten a lot more skinny since the days when I would use that neck machine religiously. And I'm constantly having neck pain and stiffness.
The first one was taken last Saturday and the second one in 1998 (BTW, that was my Raytheon badge picture not a police mug shot).
Powerful neck when young Pell
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Nautilus had a great neck machine. Worked all angles. Jones was a genius. You don't find them anymore in any of the gyms I've been to. Neck strength and durability is so important in contact sports but so neglected. The only way I can work my neck conveniently is just using hand resistance. Sucks because my neck has gotten a lot more skinny since the days when I would use that neck machine religiously. And I'm constantly having neck pain and stiffness.
The first one was taken last Saturday and the second one in 1998 (BTW, that was my Raytheon badge picture not a police mug shot).
You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.
Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.
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You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.
Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.
i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.
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i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.
Never used one but for $20 I wanted to give it a go. I'm pretty conservative with neck and try to respect the intricacy of the mechanism. I'm not one of those guys who charge full boar until the band on their forehead stops 'em running. Heard a lot of bad talk about bridges so I avoid them too.
I'm rarely under 10 reps so am never failing hard. Can't you just bend down and let the chain take the plate to the floor? Not as safe as a machine with stops for sure but you think more dangerous than holding plates?
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Never used one but for $20 I wanted to give it a go. I'm pretty conservative with neck and try to respect the intricacy of the mechanism. I'm not one of those guys who charge full boar until the band on their forehead stops 'em running. Heard a lot of bad talk about bridges so I avoid them too.
I'm rarely under 10 reps so am never failing hard. Can't you just bend down and let the chain take the plate to the floor? Not as safe as a machine with stops for sure but you think more dangerous than holding plates?
its more the harness strap on your head slips and awkwardly the weight pulls your head in whatever direction its falling or swinging.
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Ahh. Chinstrap help? It's bound to be safer than the bands I set up around the headrest in my van so I can train flexion while driving. ;D
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Leistner neck helmet -
https://www.facebook.com/drkenleistner/photos/neck-helmet/626513797383930/ .
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Put a plate on your fore head on top of a folded towel and do neck curls. Use a cheap harness to do neck extensions. For the sides use hand pressure.
Weight helmets work well. I use one in my home gym.
The best neck machines I have used is the Nautilus four way machine and their neck twist machine. The gym I go to has the four way Nautilus machine. I'm not saying my neck is big. It's not but it's over 17" at 185lbs. I believe neck work should be done once a week for high reps. The neck takes time to recover.
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(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=661325.0;attach=785927;image)
this looks like Basilles wet dream.I could imagine him being buried in it.
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You can hold plates on front, back, and sides easily. For rotation tie a wide band to a pole and wrap the other end around your head clockwise or counter. Friction will keep it from unspooling just fine.
Ok extensions are kinda a PITA but harnesses are like $20 on amazon. Got one in the cart atm.
The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.
Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.
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The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.
Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.
Sure, just put an old rag between your head and the plate. Negatives are easier than they would be on a machine. Other than that I'd guess it's not as convenient or comfortable but the footprint of the gear is a hell of a lot less. I lift at home so gotta piss with the cock I've got.
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The operative word was "conveniently". With the Nautilus machine, you just go in, set the weight with the pin, adjust the seat and you're ready to go. Front, back, both sides. Then he had another machine that worked the twisting motion as well. Pure genius that has never been duplicated.
Resting weights on my head is not easy and not comfortable. You're telling me you balance a dumbbell or plate on your forehead to work the front neck muscles?
And the harness is also a pain, especially in a crowded gym. It's not so bad for working the back of the neck but the weight swinging is a pain and can be dangerous. Forget about working the front and side of the neck.
It's really easy to do with a plate on you forehead using a folded towel. You don't balance it without hand guidance. You use your hands to gently guide it and not lift it. Try it. Fold a towel on your forehead and using the guidance of your hands to "balance" the plate. Don't use your hands to lift the plate and do neck curls while lying on a bench. It's a very effective method. Regarding a neck harness a quality one comes with D rings attached that can be used with a pulley for side and back work but it's not optimal. If you are losing your hair forget about it. Again in my experience the nautilus neck machine is the best one made.
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Sure, just put an old rag between your head and the plate. Negatives are easier than they would be on a machine. Other than that I'd guess it's not as convenient or comfortable but the footprint of the gear is a hell of a lot less. I lift at home so gotta piss with the cock I've got.
LMAO! I'm going to use that.
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It's really easy to do with a plate on you forehead using a folded towel. You don't balance it without hand guidance. You use your hands to gently guide it and not lift it. Try it. Fold a towel on your forehead and using the guidance of your hands to "balance" the plate. Don't use your hands to lift the plate and do neck curls while lying on a bench. It's a very effective method. Regarding a neck harness a quality one comes with D rings attached that can be used with a pulley for side and back work but it's not optimal. If you are losing your hair forget about it. Again in my experience the nautilus neck machine is the best one made.
My workouts are different now that I'm older and not involved in sports anymore. I want to spend the least amount of time in the gym necessary to stay in decent shape. I use the old Arthur Jones adage about training your muscles anaerobically and your body aerobically at the same time so I don't have to do separate cardio. So I have to keep moving. Going from one exercise to the next with the only "rest" being the time walking to the other station. I don't want to interrupt that with setting up a harness or the awkwardness of resting weights on my head. I do my neck: front, back, side to side, twisting back and forth just using hand pressure. It's part of my warm before I hit the weights. You have to make trade-offs and to me, it's just not worth it to make big project out of neck work.
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this looks like Basilles wet dream.I could imagine him being buried in it.
;D ;D ;D
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i hate harnesses, anything over 10kg, one slip and you are risking major injury.
Rugby dude at my gym reps 60kg