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For the record, I'm a non-smoker. But a little while back, a friend of mine suggested I try it, and I did.
I must say, I do enjoy a cigarette. Prior to this, I had smoked a cigar, maybe once every three years.
That being said, I'm not currently addicted to nicotine. But I find myself in the presence of my friends who smoke, wishing to smoke one. I've resolved this by not hanging out with my friends who smoke very much, if at all really, and intend to go the rest of the year without seeing them much, just to ensure I don't become a smoker.
I have heard it said before that quitting smoking is harder than quitting heroin. Insofar as this is true, it's only true because cigarettes are cheap and in abundance - cigarettes are ubiquitous, essentially.
I have also concluded that there is no way I can just smoke one. I realized I couldn't have a pack of cigarettes in my presence, or I would smoke them all, over time.
So my solution was to avoid my friends who smoke, as said above, and to not buy packs of cigarettes.
For perspective, I bought five packs of cigarettes in 2019. Not a huge number by any means, but it always gnaws at me that I will eventually become a full blown smoker, if I treat this with a lax attitude.
After wes' bout with lung cancer [hopefully, his condition has improved, but I'm not sure], I was more committed than ever to not smoking, and I realized that I could probably forgive myself for 10 cigarettes a month. Anything beyond that, and it makes me worry I'm doing irreversible damage to my lungs/body.
I find that smoking is not easy to moderate given how many of my friends smoke, and how ubiquitous cigarettes are, as I mentioned.
Everything is fine now, except for the fact that I do sort of miss hanging out with my friends who smoke...
I don't even know why I'm writing this...it's like I want there to be some way where I can have a couple of cigarettes twice a week, but I know that isn't realistic, since the risk of becoming a heavier smoker is always a possibility.
Basically, I'm just hoping to hear bad experiences from smokers, to get me to stop smoking completely.
While I do know that some things that are bad for us can be good in a certain context, I just don't look at cigarettes as being this way. It all seems bad to me.
If anyone on here can tell me that even one cigarette is going to result in me getting lung cancer by 50, I would be grateful to hear it. ;D
I'm thinking...two cigarettes tonight, then I lock myself in my bedroom for the next 30 days. As I said, I don't smoke much anyway, so it's not like I'll be suffering withdrawals or major cravings or anything. I went 18 days in December between cigarettes, and it wasn't a major issue. I just...like having a cigarette.
My dad smoked for 25 years, and he said it took six months before cravings absolutely disappeared, and he has never had a cigarette since then. That was over 21 years ago now. I think he made it a point to quit on his 40th birthday.
If I absolutely need to hide in my house for six months to lose the memory of smoking, I'll do that.
I don't know exactly what I smoke...I do have it all written down in a logbook I have - it may be three cigarettes every third day, or five every fifth day...maybe averaging a pack a month, but definitely under two packs a month. Under two cigarettes a day, on average, to be sure. And admittedly, I've been "indulging" since the new year. I think once I realized that I wasn't a heavily addicted smoker, I decided to just forgive myself for it.
I'm basically just looking for stories from any Getbiggers to scare me straight here.
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You’re a fucking hopeless loser attention-starved nerd. That will never change.
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No nasty habit and smell
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Only during sex.
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they will ruin your health and your looks
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Worst Thread ever on a bodybuilding forum. You overthink things more than any woman I've ever known.
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Only during sex.
LOL!!! Or only after sex?
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First off, THANK you for the replies.
Is it safe to say that smoking will age a person more than most bad things? Brett Favre had a pretty big Vicodin addiction if I recall correctly, and it didn't seem to affect his football playing very much. The pain relief may have even given him an advantage?
A lot of true things have been said about me in this thread. YES, I absolutely overthink everything to an insane degree. That being said, it's potentially a good thing...in that I'm so damn scared of harming my body that to me, I have already done as much damage to my body as a 50-year smoker has.
Academically/objectively, I know that's not true. But mentally/emotionally, I really feel that way.
In this sense, it's both a blessing and a curse. It prevents me from engaging in activity that can be ruinous.
I was so scared when my weight got up to 213-lb, that I dieted down to 163-lb. A 50-lb weight loss is significant for any person - let alone someone who started at 213-lb. But I kept looking at photos of Marlon Brando, and saw that he was around 150-lb at age 30, and ballooned up to over 300-lb by age 65 until his death at age 80. A part of me says - he still made 80, but another part of me says I might not make 80 if that happens to me. And if it could happen to a man who seemed to be an ectomorph like Marlon Brando, it could happen to me too. I felt 213-lb would soon become 233-lb, and then - who knows?
Yes, I overthink everything to a ridiculous degree.
I assume, as with most things, that that is largely genetic. I also feel that resilience to smoking is largely genetic, and I additionally feel that - like my father and his father before him - I may have the genetics to withstand smoking.
On the flip side, I felt that Art Atwood had the constitution of a horse, and could withstand pro bodybuilding gear cycles. But in the end, he died at 37 - which was younger than I am now.
You just never know. :-\
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There are not many places were smoking is still legal.
My grandson who lives in my house smokes. His designated smoking area is outside behind the garage. When it's raining, he stands under the eves to try to keep dry.
In Oregon about the only place you can smoke is in your car or your house. Tribal Casinos still have smoking areas and there a few other designated smoking areas allowed in hotels, bars (outdoors), cigar clubs and smoke shops.
Oregon State parks: Smoking cigarettes is illegal everywhere within state parks except personal vehicles and developed overnight camping areas. That means trails, picnic areas and any other public space is now smoke-free.Nov 13, 2014
All but a couple of states in the U.S. have smoking bans.
Smoking in Canada is banned in indoor public spaces, public transit facilities and workplaces (including restaurants, bars, and casinos), by all territories and provinces, and by the federal government.
Smoke Free Ontario Act
Where is smoking prohibited?
The smoking of tobacco or cannabis and vaping anything is not allowed in enclosed places where people are employed, or to which the public has access, such as:
Offices and buildings
Work vehicles
Bars & restaurants (including patios)
Hospitals & residential care facilities
Schools (including school grounds)
Licensed day cares & private home day cares
Public transportation (including boarding and waiting areas)
Taxi cabs, & limousines
Shopping malls
Arenas
Casinos & bingo halls
Private clubs & legion halls
Bowling alleys
Common areas of condominiums, apartment buildings, college and university residences
The smoking of tobacco or cannabis and vaping anything is not allowed in outdoor spaces, such as:
Within 20m of children's playground area
Sporting area, spectator sporting areas and public areas within 20m of any point on the perimeter of sporting area or spectator area if the area is owned by the Province, a municipality, or by a post-secondary institution
Hospital grounds except in designated smoking area
Looks like there's not many places where it is legal to smoke where you live.
What is it about smoking that you enjoy?
I smoked for 11 years starting at 18. From day one I smoked 3 packs every day. It took a couple of failed attempts before I succeeded in quitting. Believe it or not, I don't have an addictive personality. This probably made quitting easier once I made up my mind to do it. I experienced physical withdrawal for about a week. I know folks who have tried to quit for years with no success.
My mom was a chain smoker her entire life. She started smoking when she was 16 years old. She lived to be 61 despite having emphysema for many years. It was emphysema that caused her heart to stop which caused her death. She was miserable (probably in stage 4 of the disease) for several years before passing.
"COPD, which includes emphysema and chronic bronchitis, makes it difficult for people to exhale old air fully. When people with emphysema take a breath, the old air cannot get out completely, so new air cannot get inside. People with emphysema struggle to breathe and often have trouble receiving enough oxygen."
If you have any tendency toward addiction, try to stop smoking ASAP. The longer you wait, the more difficult it will be.
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they will ruin your health and your looks
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yup
https://www.google.com/search?q=twins+smoker+vs+nonsmoker&sxsrf=ACYBGNQ_YzOEpeZg5dvjM9n8mWv1wPxT1Q:1581630825149&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi5sP77wc_nAhUEt4sKHVnbAq8Q_AUoAXoECAwQAw&biw=1536&bih=775
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Your lungs can heal the damage caused by 3 cigarettes per day and you will be fine. Any more than that (daily) and you start causing cellular damage which, over time, can potentially create cancerous tissues.
That's your lungs anyway, but smoking is also a great way to develop cancer of the throat, lips and pancreas. Fun stuff.
Hang out with your friends but before you do let it be known that their choice to smoke affects you and that you ( being concerned for your health) have no desire to smoke. This will help weed out your true friends because any of them that genuinely respect your feelings will not smoke around you. Those that do are not your friends.
Smoking is great for your brain, tough on your cardiovascular system. It's all in the delivery. Nicotine patches are a great nootropic and many medical students swear by them. Nicotine causes ACH release in your brain (or possibly blocks the reuptake of ACH I forget which right now) and being that ACH is your brains primary neurotransmitter your brains loves nicotine.
It's a tough habit to kick, I smoked my last cig the day I saw Wes thread about having cancer...i am terrified that will happen to me and I quit on the spot. I used nicotine gum first and went to zyn pouches when the gum ran out. Right now I have neither and I am crawling the walls as I type this...fuck me...
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Your lungs can heal the damage caused by 3 cigarettes per day and you will be fine. Any more than that (daily) and you start causing cellular damage which, over time, can potentially create cancerous tissues.
That's your lungs anyway, but smoking is also a great way to develop cancer of the throat, lips and pancreas. Fun stuff.
Hang out with your friends but before you do let it be known that their choice to smoke affects you and that you ( being concerned for your health) have no desire to smoke. This will help weed out your true friends because any of them that genuinely respect your feelings will not smoke around you. Those that do are not your friends.
Smoking is great for your brain, tough on your cardiovascular system. It's all in the delivery. Nicotine patches are a great nootropic and many medical students swear by them. Nicotine causes ACH release in your brain (or possibly blocks the reuptake of ACH I forget which right now) and being that ACH is your brains primary neurotransmitter your brains loves nicotine.
It's a tough habit to kick, I smoked my last cig the day I saw Wes thread about having cancer...i am terrified that will happen to me and I quit on the spot. I used nicotine gum first and went to zyn pouches when the gum ran out. Right now I have neither and I am crawling the walls as I type this...fuck me...
Thanks for that from our resident Oncologist
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Matt,
This is a great topic that’s very interesting but I haven’t read it.
That said I’m sure the underlying theme here revolves around your closet bisexuality. You seem like a good bro. Just accept yourself.
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Matt,
This is a great topic that’s very interesting but I haven’t read it.
That said I’m sure the underlying theme here revolves around your closet bisexuality. You seem like a good bro. Just accept yourself.
Lmao amazing
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Only pole smokers on getbig.
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For the record, I'm a non-smoker. But a little while back, a friend of mine suggested I try it, and I did.
I must say, I do enjoy a cigarette. Prior to this, I had smoked a cigar, maybe once every three years.
That being said, I'm not currently addicted to nicotine. But I find myself in the presence of my friends who smoke, wishing to smoke one. I've resolved this by not hanging out with my friends who smoke very much, if at all really, and intend to go the rest of the year without seeing them much, just to ensure I don't become a smoker.
I have heard it said before that quitting smoking is harder than quitting heroin. Insofar as this is true, it's only true because cigarettes are cheap and in abundance - cigarettes are ubiquitous, essentially.
I have also concluded that there is no way I can just smoke one. I realized I couldn't have a pack of cigarettes in my presence, or I would smoke them all, over time.
So my solution was to avoid my friends who smoke, as said above, and to not buy packs of cigarettes.
For perspective, I bought five packs of cigarettes in 2019. Not a huge number by any means, but it always gnaws at me that I will eventually become a full blown smoker, if I treat this with a lax attitude.
After wes' bout with lung cancer [hopefully, his condition has improved, but I'm not sure], I was more committed than ever to not smoking, and I realized that I could probably forgive myself for 10 cigarettes a month. Anything beyond that, and it makes me worry I'm doing irreversible damage to my lungs/body.
I find that smoking is not easy to moderate given how many of my friends smoke, and how ubiquitous cigarettes are, as I mentioned.
Everything is fine now, except for the fact that I do sort of miss hanging out with my friends who smoke...
I don't even know why I'm writing this...it's like I want there to be some way where I can have a couple of cigarettes twice a week, but I know that isn't realistic, since the risk of becoming a heavier smoker is always a possibility.
Basically, I'm just hoping to hear bad experiences from smokers, to get me to stop smoking completely.
While I do know that some things that are bad for us can be good in a certain context, I just don't look at cigarettes as being this way. It all seems bad to me.
If anyone on here can tell me that even one cigarette is going to result in me getting lung cancer by 50, I would be grateful to hear it. ;D
I'm thinking...two cigarettes tonight, then I lock myself in my bedroom for the next 30 days. As I said, I don't smoke much anyway, so it's not like I'll be suffering withdrawals or major cravings or anything. I went 18 days in December between cigarettes, and it wasn't a major issue. I just...like having a cigarette.
My dad smoked for 25 years, and he said it took six months before cravings absolutely disappeared, and he has never had a cigarette since then. That was over 21 years ago now. I think he made it a point to quit on his 40th birthday.
If I absolutely need to hide in my house for six months to lose the memory of smoking, I'll do that.
I don't know exactly what I smoke...I do have it all written down in a logbook I have - it may be three cigarettes every third day, or five every fifth day...maybe averaging a pack a month, but definitely under two packs a month. Under two cigarettes a day, on average, to be sure. And admittedly, I've been "indulging" since the new year. I think once I realized that I wasn't a heavily addicted smoker, I decided to just forgive myself for it.
I'm basically just looking for stories from any Getbiggers to scare me straight here.
You have a strong desire to put something in your mouth and suck on it. Smoking is vile and causes cancer. Bypass this futile endeavor and go straight to the cock.
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You have a strong desire to put something in your mouth and suck on it. Smoking is vile and causes cancer. Bypass this futile endeavor and go straight to the cock.
What Abaraham said only not about the cock. Gross habit! It almost looks weird now when I see someone smoking in public. Except when I’m in Europe, than I’m the outsider.
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Matt,
This is a great topic that’s very interesting but I haven’t read it.
That said I’m sure the underlying theme here revolves around your closet bisexuality. You seem like a good bro. Just accept yourself.
Matt probably got into smoking by mistake, after hearing a british guy bragging about "enjoying some fags every night" and telling him he wanted to try it.
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Only pole smokers on getbig.
Not true. I quit pole smoking. Now I mostly spend my time playing the skin flute.
"1"
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Reading almost all of your first post matt, you are addicted to nicotine based on your cravings given the fact you haven't smoked much that is a bad sign, meaning if you keep exposing your body to it the cravings will get worse.
Your fear of becoming a full time smoker is a legit one, if I was you I would try to stop smoking ANY cigarettes ever, as you are on the road to full time smoking Imo. I've seen friends get into smoking and what you describe is pretty much it.
Some friend you have, by the way, trying to entice you into such a bad Habit.
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Some friend you have, by the way, trying to entice you into such a bad Habit.
that's how it always starts, peer pressure
though normally they are at least 20 years younger than matt ;D
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that's how it always starts, peer pressure
though normally they are at least 20 years younger than matt ;D
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Yup. Peer pressure was what got me started. Everyone smoked except me. I couldn't stand the odor even though I lived with a heavy smoker during most of my childhood years. After going to the drive-in theater and being stuck in a car with several friends who all smoked, I gave up trying to avoid it. Weak!
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First off - thank you for all the replies.
I didn't read them.
JK - I love that line! ;D
LOL...wtf is wrong with being a bender? In the age of #MeToo, I'm seriously contemplating Straight Conversion Therapy!
Nothing wrong with being a bender, or being bisexual. NO idea why anyone is hiding that in 2020...
I feel that I have a much better psychological rapport with men. Women are...just flaky.
Speaking of which:
I'm putting myself on 30-day house arrest. During this time, I will cut out my usual cigarettes every 2 to 5 days. Going a full 30 days without smoking, because I know I can...and will probably keep that going, because, as has been said about me - I overthink EVERYTHING, and I'm seriously scared shitless I'm going to give myself lung cancer.
Even though my grandfather was smoking two packs a day for basically 64 years. He died three years ago, just short of his 79th birthday, and lung cancer did not get the old man. :)
But I'm not willing to risk this.
I basically just wanted Getbig to kick me in the butt here! Even a cigarette a day is not something I can live with. Smoking literally dominates my thoughts.
Oh - and relating this point to women:
I do have a girlfriend now...but she thinks I want to eat every other woman's pussy, because I was upfront with her about how many pussies I ate, how many women I slept with [I put eating pussy above sex, in terms of sexual things I enjoy], and she thinks I am going to eat all the pussy!
So I'm going to lock myself in my room for 30 days starting tomorrow. I'm only leaving once a day to eat, and will fast for the rest of the day, and go for bathroom breaks [my bathroom is two feet away from my bedroom].
If my girlfriend STILL doesn't trust me by then...well...sign me up for Straight Conversion Therapy!
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I don't care if you smoke. I don't care if you are fully engulfed in flames.
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First off - thank you for all the replies.
I didn't read them.
-Seems a bit rude. You asked for encouragement to quit smoking, but you cannot bother reading the responses? Now your on to the new girlfriend and fasting with the exception of "eating pussy," under self imposed 30 day house arrest and taking potty breaks. Man, your autism is in full swing. Isn't there some medication you can take for this?
I'm on board with Oldtimer1 and not caring if you are engulfed in flames.
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I'd smoke a cigar every night if they weren't so retarded expensive. Great finish to a good meal. I don't think you can even get a single box duty free in Aus anymore. It's probably more like one stick.
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I'd smoke a cigar every night if they weren't so retarded expensive. Great finish to a good meal. I don't think you can even get a single box duty free in Aus anymore. It's probably more like one stick.
The answer to this is a tobacco pipe.
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The answer to this is a tobacco pipe.
Wouldn't be much cheaper in Aus. 50 grams of not so special pipe tobacco is over $100. Would guess good stuff would be double that so it'd be a $20-$40 puff. I can do lots of other things with that kind of money.
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Smoking is like jerking off. Once you start quitting is a bitch!
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What is it about smoking that you enjoy?
I smoked for 11 years starting at 18. From day one I smoked 3 packs every day.
You were taking about 10 minutes between cigarettes? Hard to imagine.
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Only pole smokers on getbig.
And you teach the class ;D
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I'd smoke a cigar every night if they weren't so retarded expensive. Great finish to a good meal. I don't think you can even get a single box duty free in Aus anymore. It's probably more like one stick.
You can't gets shit in Aus duty free...
I was getting my cigars sent online in unmarked packages but the fucking lowlife cxnts at customs are onto me and seized my last two shipments.... Fuck I hate those dogs.
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Pole?
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For the record, I'm a non-smoker. But a little while back, a friend of mine suggested I try it, and I did.
I must say, I do enjoy a cigarette. Prior to this, I had smoked a cigar, maybe once every three years.
That being said, I'm not currently addicted to nicotine. But I find myself in the presence of my friends who smoke, wishing to smoke one. I've resolved this by not hanging out with my friends who smoke very much, if at all really, and intend to go the rest of the year without seeing them much, just to ensure I don't become a smoker.
I have heard it said before that quitting smoking is harder than quitting heroin. Insofar as this is true, it's only true because cigarettes are cheap and in abundance - cigarettes are ubiquitous, essentially.
I have also concluded that there is no way I can just smoke one. I realized I couldn't have a pack of cigarettes in my presence, or I would smoke them all, over time.
So my solution was to avoid my friends who smoke, as said above, and to not buy packs of cigarettes.
For perspective, I bought five packs of cigarettes in 2019. Not a huge number by any means, but it always gnaws at me that I will eventually become a full blown smoker, if I treat this with a lax attitude.
After wes' bout with lung cancer [hopefully, his condition has improved, but I'm not sure], I was more committed than ever to not smoking, and I realized that I could probably forgive myself for 10 cigarettes a month. Anything beyond that, and it makes me worry I'm doing irreversible damage to my lungs/body.
I find that smoking is not easy to moderate given how many of my friends smoke, and how ubiquitous cigarettes are, as I mentioned.
Everything is fine now, except for the fact that I do sort of miss hanging out with my friends who smoke...
I don't even know why I'm writing this...it's like I want there to be some way where I can have a couple of cigarettes twice a week, but I know that isn't realistic, since the risk of becoming a heavier smoker is always a possibility.
Basically, I'm just hoping to hear bad experiences from smokers, to get me to stop smoking completely.
While I do know that some things that are bad for us can be good in a certain context, I just don't look at cigarettes as being this way. It all seems bad to me.
If anyone on here can tell me that even one cigarette is going to result in me getting lung cancer by 50, I would be grateful to hear it. ;D
I'm thinking...two cigarettes tonight, then I lock myself in my bedroom for the next 30 days. As I said, I don't smoke much anyway, so it's not like I'll be suffering withdrawals or major cravings or anything. I went 18 days in December between cigarettes, and it wasn't a major issue. I just...like having a cigarette.
My dad smoked for 25 years, and he said it took six months before cravings absolutely disappeared, and he has never had a cigarette since then. That was over 21 years ago now. I think he made it a point to quit on his 40th birthday.
If I absolutely need to hide in my house for six months to lose the memory of smoking, I'll do that.
I don't know exactly what I smoke...I do have it all written down in a logbook I have - it may be three cigarettes every third day, or five every fifth day...maybe averaging a pack a month, but definitely under two packs a month. Under two cigarettes a day, on average, to be sure. And admittedly, I've been "indulging" since the new year. I think once I realized that I wasn't a heavily addicted smoker, I decided to just forgive myself for it.
I'm basically just looking for stories from any Getbiggers to scare me straight here.
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You sound like an addict.
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LOL...wtf is wrong with being a bender? In the age of #MeToo, I'm seriously contemplating Straight Conversion Therapy!
OUTED ;D
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You were taking about 10 minutes between cigarettes? Hard to imagine.
It is very hard to imagine. Back in the early 60's people smoked everywhere they wanted, including while at work, in restaurants, on public transit, in hospitals, in movie theaters.....everywhere. It only take a couple of minutes to smoke a cigarette. The more you puff on it the faster it burns. I smoked unfiltered Camels and Sherman's when I could afford them. Sherman's were about twice as much as other cigarettes but the also lasted much longer. In those days most cigarettes contained additives which made them burn regardless if you were taking a puff or not. Sherman's did not contain this additive and they would burn out when set in an ashtray.
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You can't gets shit in Aus duty free...
I was getting my cigars sent online in unmarked packages but the fucking lowlife cxnts at customs are onto me and seized my last two shipments.... Fuck I hate those dogs.
Fucking ouch. Yeah, I'm sure they got destroyed... one stick at a time.
Haven't been on a plane in years. I got a box last time but heard they reduced the allowance. Sux. That's the only way I was willing to afford them. The makers' price alone is usually cheeky enough without the tax.
Still have half a dozen or so montes hanging around which I should rehydrate. A few years ago when I was near subiaco in perth I called in at Devlin's for a Ramon Allones. The cue ball Lex Luther dude who runs it never had very kind prices but it was so completely over the top that I concluded all cigars, even run of the mill dominicans, are a rich man's luxury anymore, and I'm not a rich man.
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Fucking ouch. Yeah, I'm sure they got destroyed... one stick at a time.
Haven't been on a plane in years. I got a box last time but heard they reduced the allowance. Sux. That's the only way I was willing to afford them. The makers' price alone is usually cheeky enough without the tax.
Still have half a dozen or so montes hanging around which I should rehydrate. A few years ago when I was near subiaco in perth I called in at Devlin's for a Ramon Allones. The cue ball Lex Luther dude who runs it never had very kind prices but it was so completely over the top that I concluded all cigars, even run of the mill dominicans, are a rich man's luxury anymore, and I'm not a rich man.
I was getting them from cigar.biz I think.... Very affordable and decent enough quality cigars, was smoking through the Gurkha range and getting 20 nice sized cigars from them for like 150$ aus. Then customs started seizing them.
Was strange as the first few got through and then all of a sudden they had me, I might try changing addresses but it riles me so much when they seize them... They send you a letter and offer for you to pay the tax on them and they will send them through to you, it was like $500 tax for the 150$ package, dogs...
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I know schizophrenics chain smoke matt. There was a study that found very high rates of cancers in Schizophrenics, the researchers were wondering why, it turned out it was the very high smoking rates, they find it relaxes them, they put away packs a day.
given you are a bit of a mentally different person might also make you more susceptible to chain smoking and serious addiction.