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Title: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Dos Equis on February 20, 2020, 11:01:10 PM
Interesting perspective.

Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
BY SHARYL ATTKISSON, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 02/18/20
 
I’m not a professional political analyst, so my political analysis is worth about what you pay for it. However, a few people who know that I called Donald Trump as the 2016 winner, starting back in 2015, have asked me what I think now. 

My prediction for the 2016 race was based on a variety of observational and anecdotal evidence. I listened to Democrats, Republicans and independents across the U.S. I talked to people who consider themselves apolitical. I heard from taxi and Uber drivers, the Verizon man, stay-at-home moms, college grads, professionals, blue-collar delivery workers. And I watched nearly every rally of Trump and his opponents.

Now, that same unscientific methodology has led me to conclude that Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his main opponent turns out to be.

Obviously, anything can happen, and I am not suggesting that those who support other candidates shouldn’t bother to vote. But as Democrats narrow down their array of personalities and preferences, I think Trump’s path to a second term has far more to do with him than with them.

Here are seven ways I think Trump has already secured a second term:

More experience. Trump is the only candidate who has served as president and commander in chief for four years.

Extreme vetting. Trump has been as thoroughly vetted as any political figure in American history, if not more so. There are few stones that remain unturned except, arguably, his tax returns, which will not make any difference to his supporters. On the other hand, all of his opponents — from former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg to former Vice President Joe Biden — are fending off new criticisms of their policies and actions. 

The sky didn’t fall. Some Republicans worried that Trump would be too liberal in practice; some independents were wary. Economists predicted the stock market would immediately crash. Critics said Trump would ship out illegal immigrants on trains, expel Muslims from the U.S. and start a nuclear war. With some of the most cataclysmic predictions not coming to pass, some of those who held back in 2016 are coming aboard the Trump train.

No surprises. Trump has proven to be exactly as he advertised. He has gone from being an unknown to being quite predictable, like him or not.

Track record. While Trump’s critics find much of his track record is objectionable, that same record is just what many of his supporters hoped for — and then some. From record-high employment for African Americans and other minorities, to a new trade deal with China, replacing the North American Free Trade Agreement with the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, unbuckling the regulatory environment, moving the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, progress toward building a border wall and draining the Washington swamp, Trump is picking up some independents, Democrats, blacks and other minorities.

He’s a proven survivor. Not much new can be thrown at Trump that will shake his support. He’s overcome impeachment and a special counsel investigation; he’s survived being called a rapist, racist, liar, tax-evader, Putin stooge, clown, mentally ill, traitor — you name it. It’s hard to imagine he cannot survive more of the same.

In fact, by Democrats pursuing the strategy of attacking everything President Trump does as the-end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it stuff, their criticism has just become white noise to many Americans. Somehow, he has come out on the other end as politically stronger and looking like a winner. Not only that, but the attacks have all helped to shore up the perception of Trump as an enemy of the “Deep State” fighting against all odds — just in time to build enthusiasm for his 2020 campaign.

Height. Trump is taller than any of the likely Democrat nominees.

The beauty of American elections is that anything can happen. There is plenty of time for Democrats to coalesce around a strong candidate who capitalizes on Trump’s perceived weaknesses and unpopularity among a large segment of the population. But today, if I were betting, all my money would have to be on another Trump victory.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/483344-why-trump-has-already-secured-a-second-term-no-matter-who-his-opponent-is
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: IroNat on February 21, 2020, 04:27:50 AM
Good points.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Straw Man on February 21, 2020, 05:32:42 PM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 21, 2020, 05:54:24 PM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors

Classic TDS symptom:

Massive delusion brought on by grief and despair.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: chaos on February 21, 2020, 05:59:17 PM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors
LMFAO. You dummycrats are disgusting.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Straw Man on February 21, 2020, 06:09:25 PM
LMFAO. You dummycrats are disgusting.

Classic TDS symptom:

Massive delusion brought on by grief and despair.

Director of National Intelligence briefs Congress that Russia is actively interferring in our election AGAIN to help Donald Trump win

Trump fires the guy for telling the truth and then goes into full denial mode

Trump is the personification of TDS

All Trump had to do was make a statement denouncing Russia and telling them to stay the fuck out of our election

Why didn't he do that

Shit, for all we know when Trump had his private meeting with his handler (Putin) they discussed how Putin would help him win the next election

Trump is a TRAITOR and so you are you two dipshipt

Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: borsen8 on February 21, 2020, 06:14:51 PM
Director of National Intelligence briefs Congress that Russia is actively interferring in our election AGAIN to help Donald Trump win

Trump fires the guy for telling the truth and then goes into full denial mode

Trump is the personification of TDS

All Trump had to do was make a statement denouncing Russia and telling them to stay the fuck out of our election

Why didn't he do that

Shit, for all we know when Trump had his private meeting with his handler (Putin) they discussed how Putin would help him win the next election

Trump is a TRAITOR and so you are you two dipshipt



You cannot possibly be this stupid. Even *I* know all of that was completely debunked, and I'm on your side.

You're doing a terrible job presenting you're position, dude
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Straw Man on February 21, 2020, 06:32:01 PM
You cannot possibly be this stupid. Even *I* know all of that was completely debunked, and I'm on your side.

You're doing a terrible job presenting you're position, dude

what was debunked

be explicit and provide proof

Here's the article in the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html

Do you have a link to a retraction or some other published article that refutes these claims and provides proof

Looking forward to checking that out so please post
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: borsen8 on February 21, 2020, 06:37:36 PM
Start here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1230901347035353088

This means that the Intelligence Community briefers had no evidence to back up their claim that Russia is try to help Trump get reelected.

Nothing.

Another hoax.

The story is that because of this briefing, Trump replaced the Acting Director of National Intelligence with
Richard Grenell

His senior advisor is Kashyat Patel, one of the first people to tell us that the Trump-Russia probe was politically motivated.

In reality, Grenell's predecessor had to leave in March due to the laws governing how long an acting director can serve.

The briefers made claims that they couldn't back up, the Democrats repeated them, and the press reported them.

So Trump said, "That's it. Time to get rid of these folks."
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Straw Man on February 21, 2020, 06:47:24 PM
Start here:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1230901347035353088

This means that the Intelligence Community briefers had no evidence to back up their claim that Russia is try to help Trump get reelected.

Nothing.

Another hoax.

The story is that because of this briefing, Trump replaced the Acting Director of National Intelligence with
Richard Grenell

His senior advisor is Kashyat Patel, one of the first people to tell us that the Trump-Russia probe was politically motivated.

In reality, Grenell's predecessor had to leave in March due to the laws governing how long an acting director can serve.

The briefers made claims that they couldn't back up, the Democrats repeated them, and the press reported them.

So Trump said, "That's it. Time to get rid of these folks."

well why didn't you say you had a Twitter post from a former founding member of Faux News citing an anonymous source

Let me know what you have some actual proof to support your claim

BTW - you're only half correct (actually less than half) about Joseph Maguire.  Although he was acting director of DNI he was who was under consideration to be permanent DNI so he would not have necessarily had to leave in March

Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: borsen8 on February 22, 2020, 12:30:15 AM
well why didn't you say you had a Twitter post from a former founding member of Faux News citing an anonymous source

Let me know what you have some actual proof to support your claim

BTW - you're only half correct (actually less than half) about Joseph Maguire.  Although he was acting director of DNI he was who was under consideration to be permanent DNI so he would not have necessarily had to leave in March


the nyt article cites the same source, dingo
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 03:43:45 AM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors

Lmfao.   What a loser you Democrats are.  Blaming everyone else all the time for your failed candidates.   Was Russia to blame too for the Iowa mess ?   Obamacare website ? 
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: mazrim on February 22, 2020, 04:16:18 AM
Straw is so delusional he argues with people on his own side. Must live a hermit like lifestyle.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 22, 2020, 04:53:05 AM
Straw is so delusional he argues with people on his own side. Must live a hermit like lifestyle.

Didn’t he just say that Hillary didn’t whine about the election?




Hillary Clinton
@HillaryClinton
Putin’s Puppet is at it again, taking Russian help for himself.

He knows he can’t win without it. And we can’t let it happen
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2020, 06:37:37 AM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors
             this combo can't be beat. time to drink the kool-aid. ;)get on the winning team buy the uniform.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Irongrip400 on February 22, 2020, 07:15:25 AM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors

Man you are a fucking idiot. Yes, Russia is in the ballot booth casting votes for Trump.  ::) I’ve read your posts over the years and you are actually sliding into delusion and anger. Set up an appointment with a shrink.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 22, 2020, 08:13:06 AM
what was debunked

be explicit and provide proof

Here's the article in the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html

Do you have a link to a retraction or some other published article that refutes these claims and provides proof

Looking forward to checking that out so please post

You should also cite from CNN, MSLSD, slate, vox, washpo, mother jones as well🙄
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 22, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
They’re  already making excuses for losing before they have even lost. Can you imagine what they’re going to be like when they actually do lose, AGAIN?👹
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: The Scott on February 22, 2020, 10:47:36 AM
Director of National Intelligence briefs Congress that Russia is actively interferring in our election AGAIN to help Donald Trump win

Trump fires the guy for telling the truth and then goes into full denial mode

Trump is the personification of TDS

All Trump had to do was make a statement denouncing Russia and telling them to stay the fuck out of our election

Why didn't he do that

Shit, for all we know when Trump had his private meeting with his handler (Putin) they discussed how Putin would help him win the next election

Trump is a TRAITOR and so you are you two dipshipt



Hi stooooopid.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 22, 2020, 11:10:37 AM
...What a loser you Democrats are. (?)...  
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 11:14:25 AM


Still clinging on to false narratives to explain the beating you take daily
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: polychronopolous on February 22, 2020, 01:02:19 PM
Man you are a fucking idiot. Yes, Russia is in the ballot booth casting votes for Trump.  ::) I’ve read your posts over the years and you are actually sliding into delusion and anger. Set up an appointment with a shrink.

I can only imagine the psychological hellhole that must be his daily existence.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 22, 2020, 04:51:27 PM
Still clinging on to false narratives to explain the beating you take daily

Nope. Just wondering how it is that a person with a law degree (such as yourself) is still mixing up singulars and plurals. Your legal briefs must be a hoot to read.

From what I understand, you once took a pretty bad beating on Getbig from a few assholes that resulted in you 'laying low' for awhile. One would think you'd show some empathy.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 22, 2020, 05:02:56 PM
Nope. Just wondering how it is that a person with a law degree (such as yourself) is still mixing up singulars and plurals. Your legal briefs must be a hoot to read.

From what I understand, you once took a pretty bad beating on Getbig from a few assholes that resulted in you 'laying low' for awhile. One would think you'd show some empathy.

The Russian excuse is fake and old and worn out.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Powerlift66 on February 23, 2020, 12:49:24 PM
On libtards could hate how things are so great in America today. I could see if all was failing.

Dumb fukking anti-american kuntz...
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2020, 03:25:27 PM
The Russian excuse is fake and old and worn out.

Rather odd response.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 03:27:45 PM
Rather odd response.

No it’s not.  It’s always been a hoax and fake lame excuse go to for every stupid failure and f up for you pathetic tds riddled liberal cry babies.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2020, 03:39:22 PM
No it’s not.  It’s always been a hoax and fake lame excuse go to for every stupid failure and f up for you pathetic tds riddled liberal cry babies.

Your reply had nothing to do with what I posted. Did you change the subject as an obvious distraction? That's okay. You clearly don't want to talk about your past bad experiences on Getbig. I understand.

I don't want to converse with you about Russian interference in U.S. and other countries' elections because it would be pointless. Which is to say neither of us can prove our point on this issue. All either of us has is our opinion and opinions aren't worth much.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 03:50:44 PM
You are the one deflecting.    Russia as the catch all excuse for every liberal failure is a proven hoax and bs issue. 
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2020, 04:03:01 PM
You are the one deflecting.    Russia as the catch all excuse for every liberal failure is a proven hoax and bs issue. 

Whatever. You brought the subject of Russian interference into this conversation. It is not something I can be bothered to discuss on Getbig with anyone because no one can prove their position on this regardless of what that position is.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Thin Lizzy on February 23, 2020, 04:15:30 PM
We never hear about the mechanics involved in this Russian meddling. What exactly are they doing to get us all to vote for the candidate that they choose?
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
Whatever. You brought the subject of Russian interference into this conversation. It is not something I can be bothered to discuss on Getbig with anyone because no one can prove their position on this regardless of what that position is.

Strawqueen did.  Read below.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 23, 2020, 04:35:53 PM
Only Trumptards would vote based on height

The article failed to mention the biggest reason Trump will win and that's because his patron Russia will make sure it happens...,.just like last time

Carry on Traitors


See Prime - this is what I was referencing.   Case in point.   Full blown TDS.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Grape Ape on February 23, 2020, 06:02:29 PM
Can't prove?  Which of these statements are true?

Bernie honeymooned in Russia and is on tape complementing Russia

Hillary bought a fake dossier from compiled by a UK intelligence agent with deep sources in Russia to get dirt on an opponent

A two year investigation which cost millions showed no collusion with Russia from the current President.


Which side is tied to Russia again?
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: JustPlaneJane on February 23, 2020, 07:03:53 PM
President Donald Trump’s annihilation of the Democrats has been so total that Donald Trump Jr. will be the 46th President of the United States.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: The Scott on February 23, 2020, 07:27:45 PM
Your reply had nothing to do with what I posted. Did you change the subject as an obvious distraction? That's okay. You clearly don't want to talk about your past bad experiences on Getbig. I understand.

I don't want to converse with you about Russian interference in U.S. and other countries' elections because it would be pointless. Which is to say neither of us can prove our point on this issue. All either of us has is our opinion and opinions aren't worth much.

One suspects that you don't wish to converse with anyone about "Russian interference" because it has long been proven to be BS as regards the finest U.S. President in my lifetime, President Trump.

It's as though honesty and integrity are anathema to libtards.  You are blinded by your own rage against America.   Someone once said it perfectly, they (DemocRats) aren't after President Trump, he's just in their way.  They truly want to destroy real Americans and all the Constitution stand for.

Odd that Sanders and others of his ilk have all taken an oath to defend the Union against all threats.  They ARE the threat. 

And so ALL cuckold libtards.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: borsen8 on February 23, 2020, 11:00:17 PM
Straw is so delusional he argues with people on his own side. Must live a hermit like lifestyle.

lol
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Soul Crusher on February 24, 2020, 10:02:20 AM
what was debunked

be explicit and provide proof

Here's the article in the NYT

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/20/us/politics/russian-interference-trump-democrats.html

Do you have a link to a retraction or some other published article that refutes these claims and provides proof

Looking forward to checking that out so please post


OOOPPPSSS!!!!!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/23/politics/intelligence-briefer-russian-interference-trump-sanders/index.html
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Primemuscle on February 24, 2020, 05:39:20 PM

See Prime - this is what I was referencing.   Case in point.   Full blown TDS.

This is one person's point of view, not everyone who is a Democrat's shares his view. I hate to think the American people could be so easily manipulated. Even if the Russians interfered with the 2016 election, they didn't win it for him...at least not entirely.

People are fed up with the same old, same old when it comes to government. Trump offered a change. Aside from continuing the country's economic recovery, which began during the Obama administration Trump's something of a disappointment. Despite what he said he'd do, very little has actually changed. The swamp is still the swamp and so on.
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: funk51 on April 05, 2020, 12:35:29 PM
Title: Re: Why Trump has already secured a second term — no matter who his opponent is
Post by: Yamcha on April 06, 2020, 06:50:52 AM
"We cannot let this, we’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and ... correct the public health."


https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1246965704177451009 (https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1246965704177451009)




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