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Title: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 31, 2020, 08:49:38 AM
These disgusting dirty people eat rats, bats, cats, dogs, monkeys, god only knows what else and lied about this long before and while other countries could have prepared. 

Chicoms are to blame here - its not cuomo or Trumps fault.   For F sake people. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 31, 2020, 08:56:14 AM
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2020/03/23/the_comprehensive_timeline_of_chinas_covid-19_lies_505472.html
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 31, 2020, 09:43:02 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8163761/Chinese-markets-selling-bats.html


Filthy chicoms. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Purge_WTF on March 31, 2020, 11:05:44 AM
 They should be held to account for this one way or another.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Straw Man on March 31, 2020, 11:37:27 AM
These disgusting dirty people eat rats, bats, cats, dogs, monkeys, god only knows what else and lied about this long before and while other countries could have prepared. 

Chicoms are to blame here - its not cuomo or Trumps fault.   For F sake people. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies



Our country knew about it in January and did NOTHING

Within a week of its first confirmed case, South Korea’s disease control agency had summoned 20 private companies to the medical equivalent of a war-planning summit and told them to develop a test for the virus at lightning speed. A week after that, the first diagnostic test was approved and went into battle, identifying infected individuals who could then be quarantined to halt the advance of the disease.

Trump continued to lie and do nothing until just a few weeks ago when the virus had been here for  weeks and was spreading across the country

Let's also not forget that Trump shut down the group within the White House that was tasked with responding to pandemics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-trump-closed/2020/03/13/a70de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

Trump cut CDC funding for pandemic response across the glove
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/health/predict-usaid-viruses.html

Trump failed to even follow our own guidelines on responding to this kind of crisis (weird how the correct response wasn't to lie, call it a hoax, do nothing and then lie some more)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285

Is that all China's fault too?

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on March 31, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Cuomo and DeBlasio were singing the same tune - they didnt take it serious enough early enough - same for Trump too.   But im not assuming the worst out of their motives like you are.   They were going on Chicoms lies. 

Our country knew about it in January and did NOTHING

Within a week of its first confirmed case, South Korea’s disease control agency had summoned 20 private companies to the medical equivalent of a war-planning summit and told them to develop a test for the virus at lightning speed. A week after that, the first diagnostic test was approved and went into battle, identifying infected individuals who could then be quarantined to halt the advance of the disease.

Trump continued to lie and do nothing until just a few weeks ago when the virus had been here for  weeks and was spreading across the country

Let's also not forget that Trump shut down the group within the White House that was tasked with responding to pandemics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-trump-closed/2020/03/13/a70de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

Trump cut CDC funding for pandemic response across the glove
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/health/predict-usaid-viruses.html

Trump failed to even follow our own guidelines on responding to this kind of crisis (weird how the correct response wasn't to lie, call it a hoax, do nothing and then lie some more)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285

Is that all China's fault too?


Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Grape Ape on March 31, 2020, 01:37:14 PM
Quote
It’s true that the president’s budget proposals have consistently called for reduced funding for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, but Congress hasn’t enacted those cuts. Democratic presidential candidates Mike Bloomberg and Joe Biden wrongly claimed he “slashed funding of the CDC” or “cut the funding,” , respectively.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: illuminati on March 31, 2020, 01:40:41 PM
These disgusting dirty people eat rats, bats, cats, dogs, monkeys, god only knows what else and lied about this long before and while other countries could have prepared. 

Chicoms are to blame here - its not cuomo or Trumps fault.   For F sake people. 

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/chinas-devastating-lies



Exactly Right.

Sadly some stupid retards on here just want to Blame Donald for anything & everything.
Sad fucking life they must have.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Straw Man on March 31, 2020, 01:55:20 PM
Exactly Right.

Sadly some stupid retards on here just want to Blame Donald for anything & everything.
Sad fucking life they must have.

I'm only blaming Lying Donny for his own words and deeds

Isn't that how everyone is judged?

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: SOMEPARTS on March 31, 2020, 02:31:43 PM
I'm only blaming Lying Donny for his own words and deeds

Isn't that how everyone is judged?





Irony.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Straw Man on March 31, 2020, 02:39:27 PM
Irony.

yes, good point

Ironic how Trump and Trumptards were so quick to criticize Obama for anything and everything yet for some reason don't want to hold their Moron Messiah to the same standard

Remember when Faux News was so desperate to criticize Obama that they had segments criticizing his choice of condiments, wearing a brown suit and using a binder clip to hold together a print out of The American Jobs act (yeah, they actually did that)

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 04:13:11 AM
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/concerns-03302020150737.html


Go eat more cahk Straw - this is all on China 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: tatoo on April 01, 2020, 06:15:10 AM
Our country knew about it in January and did NOTHING

Within a week of its first confirmed case, South Korea’s disease control agency had summoned 20 private companies to the medical equivalent of a war-planning summit and told them to develop a test for the virus at lightning speed. A week after that, the first diagnostic test was approved and went into battle, identifying infected individuals who could then be quarantined to halt the advance of the disease.

Trump continued to lie and do nothing until just a few weeks ago when the virus had been here for  weeks and was spreading across the country

Let's also not forget that Trump shut down the group within the White House that was tasked with responding to pandemics
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/nsc-pandemic-office-trump-closed/2020/03/13/a70de09c-6491-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html

Trump cut CDC funding for pandemic response across the glove
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/health/predict-usaid-viruses.html

Trump failed to even follow our own guidelines on responding to this kind of crisis (weird how the correct response wasn't to lie, call it a hoax, do nothing and then lie some more)
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/25/trump-coronavirus-national-security-council-149285

Is that all China's fault too?



you should move to south korea or china then... you are an anti-American piece of garbage... hopefully someone finds out your true identity on here someday..
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 06:21:52 AM
You are blinded by hate and derangement

yes, good point

Ironic how Trump and Trumptards were so quick to criticize Obama for anything and everything yet for some reason don't want to hold their Moron Messiah to the same standard

Remember when Faux News was so desperate to criticize Obama that they had segments criticizing his choice of condiments, wearing a brown suit and using a binder clip to hold together a print out of The American Jobs act (yeah, they actually did that)


Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: loco on April 01, 2020, 06:32:27 AM
.

Oddly enough far fewer people would have drowned if the Captain and crew of the Titanic had established what country the iceberg came from before they started the emergency evacuation

History of influenza pandemics in China during the past century

2018 Aug 10

Five influenza pandemics had occurred during the past century (1918 "Spanish flu" , 1957 "Asian flu" , 1968 "Hong Kong flu" , 1977 "Russian flu" and 2009 H1N1 Pandemic), accounting for hundreds of millions of people infected and tens of millions dead. China was influenced by all the five pandemics, and three of them (1957 "Asian flu" , 1968 "Hong Kong flu" and 1977 "Russian flu" ) were originated from China. The pandemics triggered the establishment of public health agencies and influenza surveillance capacities. In addition, more resources were allocated to influenza-related research, prevention and control. As a leader in the field of influenza, China should further strengthen its pandemic preparedness and response to contribute to global health.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30180422

2009 H1N1 Pandemic
Contrary to the popular assumption that the new swine flu pandemic arose on factory farms in Mexico, federal agriculture officials now believe that it most likely emerged in pigs in Asia, but then traveled to North America in a human.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/24/health/24flu.html
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: loco on April 01, 2020, 06:40:33 AM
how does knowing who to blame solve the present problem?

Had China done this, we wouldn't have the present problem.  If China does nothing, or the world does nothing about China, the next pandemic coming from China could be a lot worse.

"China should further strengthen its pandemic preparedness and response to contribute to global health".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30180422
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 06:43:48 AM
how does knowing who to blame solve the present problem?

Because those filthy disgusting communists are the main cause of most of these things.  And likely the next one too. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: loco on April 01, 2020, 06:56:07 AM
how does that solve the present problem?

It doesn't.  What's your point, that we should ignore the source of the problem and do nothing to help prevent it in the future?
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 06:56:31 AM
https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2020/02/18/why_do_new_disease_outbreaks_always_seem_to_start_in_china.html?fbclid=IwAR1jf4sg-SjvC8MAjP_oidYQjfD4KJTf8_w069DCZ7k66AhzmX76Gqy_Jc0


Incredible - liberal faggetts defending Chinese communists
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 08:29:45 AM
that we deal with the present (aside from its the only time we have)

you never count your money

When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done

Those dirty chinese communists are the source of most of this crap.  SARs, this, bird flur fears, etc. 

Lets go to the source
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 08:56:00 AM
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-01/china-concealed-extent-of-virus-outbreak-u-s-intelligence-says?fbclid=IwAR2F6CPc6JnWKrxe_OqNrfy1ubG6m2hpX3C-xgkUozVbdFjs_6bzYnRcZpo



YUP! 

Everyone is starting to catch on - F these bat, cat, rat, dog eating communists. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: loco on April 01, 2020, 09:00:39 AM
that we deal with the present (aside from its the only time we have)

you never count your money

When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done

What, humans can't multitask?  Also, has it occurred to you that because of these wet markets in China a brand new, more deadly virus could be brewing right now and could hit the world now when we are all most vulnerable?  

The present is the only time we have to prepare for the future.  Preparing for the future in the future is too late.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 09:27:19 AM
how does that solve the present problem?

Cause they are the main FNG problem!!!

https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2020/02/18/why_do_new_disease_outbreaks_always_seem_to_start_in_china.html?fbclid=IwAR1jf4sg-SjvC8MAjP_oidYQjfD4KJTf8_w069DCZ7k66AhzmX76Gqy_Jc0

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 09:35:14 AM
U.S. Intelligence Concludes China Concealed Extent of Coronavirus Outbreak
National Review ^ | April 1, 2020 12:02 PM | Zachary Evans
Posted on 4/1/2020, 12:33:37 PM by FewsOrange

The U.S. Intelligence Community has concluded that China concealed the extent of the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak in the country, Bloomberg News reported on Wednesday.

A classified report submitted to the White House states that China intentionally lowered its reported number of coronavirus cases, according to three officials familiar with the matter. The officials did not indicate if the report estimates what China’s actual infection rate is. The news comes a day after Dr. Deborah Birx, response coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, suggested that the U.S. response to the pandemic may not have been as effective as possible due to “missing” data from China.

“The medical community interpreted the Chinese data as, this was serious, but smaller than anyone expected,” Birx said at a press briefing. “Because, probably…we were missing a significant amount of the data, now that we see what happened to Italy and we see what happened to Spain.”

China could have prevented 95 percent of coronavirus infections if it had acted sooner to stem the outbreak, according to one study.

U.S. officials and lawmakers have repeatedly accused China of covering up the extent of the outbreak. On Tuesday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo urged fellow nations to be transparent about the information they share regarding the coronavirus.

“I would urge every nation: Do your best to collect the data. Do your best to share that information,” Pompeo said. “We’re doing that.”

Senator Tom Cotton (R., Ark.) has repeatedly claimed that China was underreporting cases of coronavirus. Cotton argued in a January 28 letter to Pompeo and Health Secretary Alex Azar that the Trump administration should ban travel from China, in part because China was not reporting the extent of the epidemic.

“As of [Tuesday] morning, China has reported that the Wuhan coronavirus has infected more than 4,500 people and killed more than 100,” Cotton wrote. “But the real number is likely far higher — perhaps in the hundreds of thousands — given the Chinese Communist Party’s long history of covering up and minimizing these crises.”
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 01, 2020, 09:36:14 AM
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 06:08:36 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/02/luckin-coffee-stock-plummets-after-investigation-finds-coo-fabricated-sales.html

Gee - no kidding.   

FNG lying filthy maoists communists
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 07:19:39 AM
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html


Mofo bat eating cat eating dog and rat eating filthy communists.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: loco on April 02, 2020, 09:05:28 AM
Soul Crusher,

Why don't you tell us how you feel about the Chinese?   :D
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 09:08:51 AM
Soul Crusher,

Why don't you tell us how you feel about the Chinese?   :D

I am - they are filthy communists. 

If you are ever in Flushing or elmhurst or queens - etc - it smells like total STENCH!   Disgusting.   Rotten fish, dead dogs and cats, rats and bats.   Gross. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 12:02:04 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/outrageous-hidden-from-the-american-public-74-78-of-covid-19-patients-have-at-least-one-underlying-health-problem/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostSideSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons


 :(
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 12:42:48 PM
Disaster in motion: 3.4 million travelers poured into US as coronavirus pandemic erupted
ABC News ^ | April 2, 2020 | By Pierre Thomas, Others
Posted on 4/2/2020, 12:53:57 PM by Oldeconomybuyer

An ABC News investigation offers sobering insight into how COVID-19 has spread and penetrated so broadly, so deeply and so quickly in the United States.

Travel data of passengers arriving in the United States from China during the critical period in December, January and February, when the disease took hold in that country, shows a stunning 759,493 people entered the U.S.

"This is an astonishing number in a short period of time, illustrating how globalized our world has become. Just as people can hop continents with amazing ease, the infections they carry can too," said Dr. Vinayak Kumar, an internal medicine resident at the Mayo Clinic and a contributor to the ABC News Medical Unit.

While the majority of the travelers likely went to major population centers like New York, Seattle or Los Angeles, with so many arriving, any of the hundreds of thousands could have gone anywhere in the U.S.

Researchers from Johns Hopkins University said the outbreak could have started as far back as November, and that there may have been hundreds of cases in Wuhan by early December.

ABC News examined data from December, January and February on travelers entering the U.S. from eight of the hardest-hit countries: 343,402 arrived from Italy, 418,848 from Spain and about 1.9 million more came from Britain.

Combined with those from China, that's more than 3.4 million people from just four countries -- nearly half, about 1.5 million, Americans returning home. Travel from Italy and Spain wasn't shut down until March 13, with U.K. arrivals restricted a few days later.

Among the millions of travelers likely were a number of biological ticking time bombs, passengers who'd later infect others at a rate at least double that of the typical flu carrier.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 12:48:30 PM
Coronavirus: Countries reject Chinese-made equipment
BBC News ^ | 30 March 2020 | BBC, Staff Writer
Posted on 4/2/2020, 3:08:02 PM

A number of European governments have rejected Chinese-made equipment designed to combat the coronavirus outbreak.

Thousands of testing kits and medical masks are below standard or defective, according to authorities in Spain, Turkey and the Netherlands.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 02, 2020, 03:30:56 PM
https://freebeacon.com/national-security/chinese-distributed-faulty-coronavirus-test-kits-throughout-europe-reports-indicate

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 03, 2020, 12:00:11 PM
Identity Politics Lied. New Yorkers Died
How identity politics pseudoscience left New York exposed to the Coronavirus.

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Daniel Greenfield, a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the Freedom Center, is an investigative journalist and writer focusing on the radical Left and Islamic terrorism.

Last year, New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot was warning that “even brief contact with the police or indirect exposure is associated with lasting harm to people’s physical and mental health”.

“We as a public health department have really been trying to frame criminal justice system involvement as an exposure,” Barbot’s epidemiologist, Kimberly Zweig, claimed.

Zweig had a degree in epidemiology, but her focus was entirely on PTSD and stress. Not on disease.

Why was New York City so badly unprepared for the arrival of the coronavirus? The answer was radical politics. And Barbot and Zweig embodied the public health mismanagement of a radical administration.

Commissioner Oxiris Barbot, the disgraced figure at the center of the city’s coronavirus meltdown, had graduated from the University of Medicine and Dentistry of New Jersey in 1991. She had worked as a pediatrician, before being selected as the Medical Director for the Office of School Health in New York in 2003. Her qualification for the job was unclear and her bio doesn’t list any administrative degrees.

In 2010, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake chose Barbot as Baltimore's health commissioner. Blake would later become infamous for announcing that she had given the city's race rioters "space to destroy".

The city's murder rate has continued hitting new highs since.

A few years later, Barbot came back to New York City and began working her way up through the Department of Health. When she was named Health Commissioner last year, the big news was that the city had its “first Latina commissioner” who had come out the Bronx housing projects.

Barbot succeeded Mary T. Bassett: a 17-year veteran of the University of Zimbabwe. Bassett had launched the Center for Health Equity and spent her time warning of the public health threat from racism in talks, "Why Your Doctor Should Care About Social Justice", articles, “How Does Racism Affect Your Health”, and research papers, “Uprooting Institutionalized Racism as Public Health Practice.”

As Health Commissioner, Barbot's bio boasted that "she uses a racial equity lens" and credited her with "spearheading the creation of the Center for Health Equity which operationalizes the Department’s commitment to racial justice."

As the coronavirus bore down on New York City, Barbot and the Health Department were busy operationalizing social justice while remaining oblivious to the scientific realities of the pandemic. The department’s focus on health equity required it to discourage recent arrivals from Wuhan from going into self-quarantine or avoiding large public gatherings like the Lunar New Year celebrations.

“We are very clear: We wish New Yorkers a Happy Lunar New Year and we encourage people to spend time with their families and go about their celebration,” Barbot insisted.

A week later, Barbot appeared at a press event promoting Lunar New Year celebrations in Chinatown.

"As we gear up to celebrate the #LunarNewYear in NYC, I want to assure New Yorkers that there is no reason for anyone to change their holiday plans, avoid the subway, or certain parts of the city because of #coronavirus," she insisted.

By then there had already been over 17,000 cases of the Wuhan Virus in China with nearly 3,000 new cases in one day. For the first time, someone outside Mainland China had died of the disease.

Manhattan’s Chinatown, where Barbot had appeared, is one of the densest parts of the city. The old core community where the Lunar New Year celebration is based is a maze of cramped tenements, narrow streets, tiny stores whose counters extend far into the street, and other unsafe conditions

Barbot went on urging people to participate in the parade while spreading misinformation about the risk. “You won’t get it merely from riding the subways – you get it from secretions,” she even claimed.

The commissioner went on with the happy talk in March.

After the first coronavirus case in the city, she claimed that "disease detectives" would prevent the spread of the coronavirus and that New Yorkers were "at low risk".

"As we confront this emerging outbreak, we need to separate facts from fear, and guard against stigma and panic," Commissioner Barbot signed off: warning that the real enemy was prejudice.

“There’s no indication that being in a car, being in the subways with someone who’s potentially sick is a risk factor,” she told New Yorkers.

Four days later, she finally admitted, “It’s not just prolonged household contact as we initially thought. We have evidence that there are other types of interactions that can occur that can transmit the virus.”

Barbot and her boss, Mayor Bill de Blasio, had been spreading dangerous nonsense with no scientific basis. When asked about some of her claims at a press conference, she said, “This is a novel virus that we’re still learning a lot about.”

That was better than Bill de Blasio who, when asked how Barbot's Department of Health had decided that the virus dies quickly in the air, rambled, "All information is valuable, but the information that we’re gleaning from our own direct experience is the most valuable to us.”

Had New York City’s health authorities lost their minds? Not exactly. They had enveloped their medical decisions in a fog of identity politics pseudoscience which had redefined medicine around equity.

That was Barbot’s real job. The obsession with equity in everything had been the signature of the entire De Blasio administration. Just as Marxists had used class as the master theory explaining all the problems of human history, radicals in this country had redefined racism as the explanation for all ills.

To Barbot and De Blasio, the coronavirus wasn’t the real threat, racism was. Their job was to suppress overreaction to the coronavirus by persuading New Yorkers that there was no real risk of contagion.

The actual science, objective research, was irrelevant compared to the city’s own truths about racism.

In the midst of the pandemic, this may seem inconceivable, but all that happened was that New York City’s leaders applied the same approach to the coronavirus that they had used for crime and terrorism.

When it came to terrorism and crime, the policy had been to minimize the risk, cover up actual cases and to warn against prejudice toward communities likely to engage in crime or terrorism. This approach had failed miserably in preventing crime or terrorism, but the actual scale of the damage had not been so devastating as to actually make a major dent in daily life in New York City.

New York City’s Health Department had already medicalized this approach with HIV. Last year, the Health Department was back to running ads encouraging sex with HIV positive people.

"This new U = U campaign underscores the fact that people living with HIV have more choices than ever before,” Health Commissioner Dr. Oxiris Barbot boasted. “With a sexual health plan that includes taking HIV medication, regular medical care, and using condoms, New Yorkers with HIV can live long, fulfilling, and healthy lives with the options they have now.”

“People living with HIV are lovable, touchable, and should feel confident that, with effective treatment, they can live free of the concern of transmitting the virus," Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, Deputy Commissioner for the Health Department’s Division of Disease Control added.

The difference with coronavirus was how quickly the risk of a disease outbreak turned into the reality.

New York City’s politicized government had inhabited its own bubble in which filling the streets with criminals, protecting terrorists and illegal aliens, or encouraging unsafe sex, was ideologically correct. And the casualties of this ideological destruction, whether bicycling tourists in Manhattan, young gay men, or young women in Central Park, were easy enough to bury in press releases full of Newspeak.

But the coronavirus crisis did not work that way. And Barbot and De Blasio were behind the curve. The radicals running the city were not only out of step with science, but with the rest of the country.

By the time reality, in the form of angry editorials, state action, local protests, intruded, it was too late.

The coronavirus outbreak has exploded in New York City. And everyone has gone all in on the cover-up. The inept De Blasio administration, which didn’t bother ordering protective equipment until March, when it was still assuring New Yorkers that there was nothing to worry about, has been blaming Trump.

But that’s a mistake.

The coronavirus pandemic contains important lessons. Trying to suppress those lessons will carry an even heavier price. The price can be postponed, but the interest rate on it will be even higher.

New York City’s dense grid, its cramped public transportation, and large foreign population put it at risk, but it was an ideological contempt for objective science by identity politics radicals that left it naked.

The Chinese Communist leadership had refused to believe that a virus could take off in their perfect system. Ideology blinded them to the outbreak the same way it did their leftist counterparts in New York City who were obsessed with making sure that the Lunar New Year celebrations went forward in their perfect utopia to prove that science doesn’t matter and that the only real virus is racism.

Mayor Bill de Blasio had dismantled the city’s Department of Health, replacing its personnel with unqualified hacks whose job was to medicalize social justice, and warn of the public health threats of the police, or hair discrimination, while assuring city residents that they had nothing to fear from COVID-19.

New York City Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot warned New Yorkers that brief contact with the police was dangerous, but that brief contact with people infected with the coronavirus wasn’t.

Identity politics lied. New Yorkers died.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2020, 05:58:12 AM
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2020, 07:36:39 AM
Communist China Was Always One Lab Accident Away From Becoming a Supervillain
 BY BRYAN PRESTON APRIL 5, 2020CHAT COMMENTS


Medical workers of the Union Hospital with the Tongji Medical College of the Huazhong University of Science and Technology in Wuhan participate in a ceremony to form an "assault team" to battle against a coronavirus epidemic(Cheng Min/Xinhua via AP)


The findings are clear: A deadly virus that could kill untold numbers of people worldwide escaped from a Chinese research lab.

Chinese health officials have confirmed four suspected cases of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), including one death, which appear to have been caused by a safety breach at a laboratory... It's the first SARS death reported since the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the initial SARS outbreak more than nearly a year ago.
That's from BioSpace, 2004. The words may have changed over the past 16 years, but the song remains the same.

There were also reports that officials  may have encouraged doctors not to report new cases when SARS spread to Beijing. In April 2003,  Time magazine obtained a letter from Jiang Yanyong, a physician at an army hospital in Beijing, alleging the actual number of SARS cases in the capital city was much higher than the official count. This turned out to be true, and Chinese officials released the real numbers that month (and also began to  monitor Jiang).
The common denominator here is the communist party that rules China with its jade fist. Just read this comprehensive timeline of the COVID outbreak by Jim Geraghty. While there is still debate over whether the novel coronavirus leaped from animal to human in a "wet" market or from a Wuhan research lab, it's clear that the communists' lies made the situation far worse than it should have been. The world lost weeks thanks to China on the one hand and the execrable World Health Organization on the other. The latter played sock puppet for the former, blandly assuring the world that COVID-19 posed no threat even while it was spreading worldwide on airplanes from Wuhan bound for everywhere.


Call it the Kung Flu, the Shanghai Shivers, the Wuhan or Chinese virus, or COVID-19 -- whatever you want -- communist China lied and so far thousands worldwide and the global economy died. The interconnected world has two main hubs, the United States and China. What happens in one will affect the other, as long as China remains the world's manufacturing and supply hub. You cannot buy antibiotics, Nike shoes, or untold thousands of other products we use every single day that did not originate in part or in whole in China.

Geraghty's timeline does leave out a couple of dates that bear mentioning. The Democrats in the House passed the articles of impeachment against President Trump on December 18, 2019. On January 15, after sitting on those articles across the holidays, they walked them over to the Senate while the mainstream media gushed over the solemnity of the occasion.  That same day, the first human carrying the coronavirus landed in the United States. He traveled here from China, as thousands did every day. Of course, no one knew he was carrying the deadly virus at the time. China and the WHO were still lying about the outbreak.


The impeachment saga lasted until February 5, 2020. Of course, President Trump and his core team were focused nearly exclusively on that, while at the same time they had little choice but to rely on what the WHO was saying about what was happening in Wuhan. Virus outbreaks come and go and none have caused a global crisis in more than a century. Impeachment was an immediate existential threat to Trump's presidency and a political act designed to destroy him. When President Trump announced the China travel ban on January 31, the Democrats and the media carried China's water and denounced the action as an attack on immigrants. As if business travelers and tourists are the same things as immigrants.

Joe Biden was among the first to denounce the move as "xenophobic" "fear-mongering."


Joe Biden

@JoeBiden
We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergen


That didn't age well, did it? Neither has impeachment. The Democrats have since changed their tune on the travel ban, but have they changed their thoughts on China?


The 2002-2003 SARS outbreak could have served as a wake-up call to never trust China on matters of science and public health. They lied then. But it can also be seen in another light. Presidents are briefed on emerging threats every day and must choose which ones to act on. The SARS outbreak's death toll was under 9,000 worldwide. There were only 8 cases in the United States and none of those were fatal. Early on, thanks to China's perfidy and the WHO's statements, the COVID-19 outbreak looked very similar to SARS.

And President Trump faced a more immediate threat in the form of impeachment. Of course, that political show had an impact. There really should be no credible debate on that point.  The Democrats knew the GOP-controlled Senate would never convict him. The point of impeachment, its whole purpose, was to cripple Trump as president heading into the 2020 election.

Looking forward, we need clear and unified thinking in the West when it comes to China. The communists suppress open media and all dissent domestically. The left ought to hate that. They lie for any reason and no reason at all. They punish scientists for discussing facts. They bury findings that don't suit them. The coronavirus outbreak has exposed both the WHO and the UN Human Rights Council as bad and unreliable actors who favor China's communists over their own credibility. The Hong Kong protests exposed much of the western media and even the NBA as cowards more concerned with their bottom lines than the freedoms they rely on to exist. China has used the wealth generated from becoming the world's manufacturer to buy influence across the world with its Belt and Road programs and to undermine American influence at the same time.

Only Richard Nixon could have gone to China, but that trip may have turned out to be his greatest mistake. Decades later free Taiwan is marginalized, Hong Kong is under threat and the communists in Beijing are more influential, richer and more powerful in overt and insidious ways than ever. The whole world is reeling thanks to China's rulers. In every way, as long as communists rule China, it should be viewed as a hostile and unreliable entity -- villainous in the extreme and an enemy of freedom, decency and human dignity.

*The title of this post is a paraphrase of a joke from the Big Bang Theory TV show.

Bryan Preston is the author of Hubble's Revelations: The Amazing Time Machine and Its Most Important Discoveries.
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 06, 2020, 08:21:13 AM
Boris Johnson's government reportedly believes the coronavirus may have accidentally leaked from a Chinese laboratory
Business Insider via Yahoo ^ | 4/6/2020 | A. Payne
Posted on 4/6/2020, 10:53:39 AM by TangledUpInBlue

The UK government reportedly believes the coronavirus outbreak may have started in a Chinese laboratory.

Most experts believe the outbreak began when animals passed COVID-19 onto humans in China.

However, some scientists believe an accidental leak is a plausible alternative theory.

UK officials are not ruling out the possibility that a laboratory close to Wuhan accidentally leaked the virus.

A UK Parliament committee on Monday accused the Chinese government of spreading "disinformation" about the origins of the virus.

"Perhaps it is no coincidence that there is that laboratory in Wuhan," one UK government official told the Mail on Sunday newspaper.

(Excerpt) Read more at us.yahoo.com ...
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2020, 01:04:45 PM
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 07, 2020, 01:28:17 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/04/07/report-wuhan-funeral-homes-burned-people-alive


If true - IF  . . .

Not surprising at all. 

These chinese communists are disgusting rat people. 
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Post by: OzmO on April 07, 2020, 01:47:50 PM
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/04/07/report-wuhan-funeral-homes-burned-people-alive


If true - IF  . . .

Not surprising at all. 

These chinese communists are disgusting rat people. 

Kind of hard to get away with something like that these days.  But who knows. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2020, 05:06:12 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/07/time-put-china-lockdown-dishonesty-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-crisis-column/2954433001


YUP
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 08, 2020, 07:31:29 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/did-coronavirus-leak-from-a-research-lab-in-wuhan-startling-new-theory-is-no-longer-being-discounted-amid-claims-staff-got-infected-after-being-sprayed-with-blood/ar-BB12bcbn?fbclid=IwAR2NXjLTfSrsDz0iNpqpU5F2t8yaPdyPVJW2mLHQMRk6Cp9qX287S3SfE4U


YUP.   These disgusting communist aholes are responsible for this. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 10, 2020, 05:13:14 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/opinions-china-should-be-legally-liable-for-the-pandemic-damage-it-has-done/ar-BB12oS9V

Yup
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 10, 2020, 07:23:17 AM
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: illuminati on April 11, 2020, 12:03:38 AM
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/04/07/time-put-china-lockdown-dishonesty-amid-coronavirus-pandemic-crisis-column/2954433001


YUP

A lot of very good points in that article & all of them should be implemented ASAP
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 11, 2020, 03:31:49 PM
https://nypost.com/2020/04/11/bill-maher-defends-calling-coronavirus-chinese-virus


Yup.  Goddamn bat eating slobs
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2020, 04:17:30 AM
https://us.cnn.com/2020/04/12/asia/china-coronavirus-research-restrictions-intl-hnk/index.html


POS chinese
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2020, 04:41:49 AM
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/world-health-organization-blame-pandemic-coronavirus/609820


 >:(
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2020, 04:55:22 AM
https://www.newsweek.com/china-censoring-research-covid-19-origins-deleted-page-wuhan-university-website-suggests-1497467?fbclid=IwAR2hsyijRS4K3-Iltp-X_LVLxFv0PfLotYuc1z6ZsD-jD6t1PuBkpjZDfmk

YUP
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 13, 2020, 08:51:45 AM
Coronavirus Exposes Another Chinese Communist Scandal: Rampant Corporate Fraud
The Federalist ^ | 04/13/2020 | Helen Raleigh
Posted on 4/13/2020, 10:19:29 AM by SeekAndFind


If Beijing doesn't change its policies and address corporate fraud immediately, investors might never touch stocks of Chinese companies again.
Beijing may pretend it has the coronavirus pandemic under control and insist there are no new infected cases. This week alone, however, the news of notorious accounting scandals in regard to two U.S.-listed Chinese companies surfaced, exposing yet another sickening event that has unraveled in China.

Luckin Coffee is a two and a half-year-old startup coffee chain in China founded with the intention to overtake American coffee chain Starbucks. Luckin’s growth speed has been astounding, from nine locations in 2017 to more than 4,500 locations across China in 2020, compared to Starbucks’ 4,200 locations.

Luckin boasts its success as being more of a technology company than a coffee company; customers use an app to order drinks, and the company uses the data it collects and artificial intelligence to improve its operations. Like many home-grown brands in China, Luckin’s impressive growth was achieved by underselling its competitors. Luckin’s coffee tastes average, but it is unbelievably cheap. Luckin’s latte costs about $1 versus $4 at Starbucks.

Luckin’s Luck Ran Out
Luckin was listed in the NASDAQ stock exchange in the United States in May 2019, giving the startup new access to foreign investors and additional credibility. It quickly attracted sophisticated investors such as BlackRock and Singapore’s Sovereign Wealth Fund.

The valuation of the company skyrocketed. At its height, it was worth about $5 billion with a share price of $51. Last quarter, the company claimed it was growing comparable-store sales by 166 percent, while more than doubling the number of new Luckin Coffee stores.

In the real market, however, when a company opens a large number of stores in the same geographical location, the comparable-store sales usually suffer because newer locations will attract more foot traffic. Luckin’s magnificent growth, therefore, seemed suspiciously unrealistic. Turns out, it was.

In January of this year, the U.S.-based Muddy Waters Research, a short seller that profits from exposing corporate frauds, said it received an anonymous report, which stated that “when Luckin Coffee went public in May 2019, it was a fundamentally broken business that was attempting to instill the culture of drinking coffee into Chinese consumers through cut-throat discounts and free giveaway coffee. Right after its $645 million IPO, the company had evolved into a fraud by fabricating financial and operating numbers starting in [third] quarter 2019.” The report went on to list other alleged fraudulent activities the company was involved in, while raising questions about some key management personnel’s troubled histories.

Luckin quickly “categorically denied” the anonymous report, claiming “the methodology of the Report is flawed, the evidence is unsubstantiated, and the allegations are unsupported speculations and malicious interpretations of events.”

The spread of the Wuhan coronavirus in the following two months took some spotlight away from Luckin. Then on April 2, all hell broke loose for the company. Through a regulatory filing, Luckin disclosed it found that its chief operating officer, Jian Liu, and several employees who directly reported to him had fabricated 2019 sales by about 2.2 billion yuan ($310 million). Since the company had previously reported that its net sales for the first nine months of 2019 were 2.9 billion yuan ($413 million), this revelation means the majority of Luckin’s 2019 sales numbers were fake.

Luckin’s stock price plummeted more than 80 percent that day, wiping out more than $2 billion from its market value and causing significant losses for many foreign investors, including Americans. Then on April 6, U.S. bank Goldman Sachs disclosed that Luckin’s Chairman Charles Zhengyao Lu defaulted on a $518 margin loan. NASDAQ ultimately halted the trading of Luckin stock the same day.

Bad Things Come in Threes
Luckin wasn’t the only Chinese company recently exposed for corporate fraud. Less than a week later, another U.S.-listed Chinese company, TAL Education Group, one of the largest education providers in China that offers K-12 after-school tutoring services, revealed on April 8 that one of its employees had inflated the company’s sales by “forging contracts and other documentations.” The share price of TAL dropped 23 percent in one day.

The company said the employee in question was in police custody, but according to short seller Muddy Waters, TAL’s problem was way worse than what the company had disclosed. In 2018, Muddy Waters published a report alleging the company had “overstat[ed] its net profit by at least 43.6 percent” and “inflat[ed] its 2016 to 2018 pre-tax profits by up to US$153.2 million, or 28.4 percent.”

Back then, TAL denied any wrongdoing, saying the report contained “numerous errors, unsupported speculation and malicious interpretations of events.” Now it seems Muddy Waters was not only right but two years ahead of everyone else in recognizing TAL’s fraudulent activities.

Bad things usually come in threes. This week, Muddy Waters joined another short seller, Wolfpack Research, and accused the NASDAQ-listed Chinese video streaming company iQiyi of making up its 2019 revenue by up to 44 percent, while inflating its user number by 60 percent. For now, iQiyi is vigorously denying any wrongdoing. Investors will have to wait and see how long that will last.

Chinese Laws Facilitate Scandal
For foreign investors, the dependability of Chinese companies’ financial statements has always been a serious issue. The running joke about Chinese companies is that they have three sets of accounting books: one for the regulators, one for the investors, and one for the managers — and only the last contains the true information. In 2018, the Wall Street Journal reported that auditors declined to endorse 219 annual reports prepared by Chinese companies, which means these auditors either found serious issues with those reports or had expressed concern about the companies’ likelihood of survival.

Unfortunately, some of China’s home-grown accounting and auditing firms are just as unreliable as their corporate clients. Rather than acting as gatekeepers, these firms have turned a blind eye to their clients’ fabricated financial statements. The problem has become so impermissible and so prevalent that last year, the China Securities Regulatory Commission launched investigations of China’s homegrown accounting firms Ruihua and GP for suspected violation of securities law.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the Chinese authorities’ investigation found that one of GP’s corporate clients inflated its cash holding by $4 billion, and one of Ruihua’s corporate clients overstated its profit for four years until 2018 by $1.7 billion. As a result of these investigations, at least 23 of Ruihua’s corporate clients either delayed or canceled their fundraising plans.

While Beijing attempts to address corporate fraud by cleaning house from time to time, it is ultimately responsible for fostering such bad corporate behaviors in its policies. Chinese law requires that financial records remain in China. Beijing has prevented the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and the U.S. accounting board from inspecting China-based auditors of U.S.-listed Chinese firms by invoking national security concerns.

Foreign investors have limited legal resources to hold these Chinese companies and their management accountable. Because Beijing actively shields Chinese firms from U.S. regulators, these companies have no incentives to provide a true picture of their financial health to investors.

Coronavirus Exposes Corporate Fraud
While corporate fraud is nothing new in China, the coronavirus outbreak helped bring this new wave of scandals to light. China’s economy collapsed after the two months of lockdown. Corporate fraudulent activities that were previously easily disguised in a growth environment suddenly have nowhere to hide.

Just like how the 2008 financial crisis brought down Bernie Madoff, more scandals will likely emerge after the coronavirus outbreak. As Warren Buffett once said, “You only find out who is swimming naked when the tide goes out.”

China needs foreign investors to revive its economy, but these corporate scandals, along with reports of faulty exports of medical equipment, don’t help instill any confidence in investors. We already know that China’s official coronavirus-related data is not reliable. Now investors are questioning if that is also the case with financial data of Chinese companies. Beijing can no longer hide behind its nationalistic rhetoric and dismiss these concerns.

If Beijing doesn’t change its policies and address these corporate scandals immediately, by the time the pandemic is over, investors might not touch stocks of Chinese companies ever again. That will truly devastate China’s economy.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: George Whorewell on April 13, 2020, 05:07:47 PM
Straw getting sodomized as per usual

feels good to be back
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 14, 2020, 04:07:49 AM
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Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 14, 2020, 09:27:14 AM
China Hit With Surge in New COVID-19 Cases, Highest Numbers in Weeks
NN ^ | 04-14-20 | Jay Greenberg
Posted on 4/14/2020, 12:02:20

China has been hit with a surge in new COVID-19 cases, recording its highest number for five weeks, after recently relaxing coronavirus lockdown measures.The soaring confirmed coronavirus cases are now sparking fears the communist country will be hit with a "second wave" of the deadly Chinese virus.

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Post by: Grape Ape on April 14, 2020, 09:36:46 AM
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Maher was right there.

However, he's probably worried his comments months ago about hoping for a recession to get rid of Trump and really going to bite him.
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Post by: polychronopolous on April 14, 2020, 06:01:23 PM
Shout out to Dallas Fort Worth media legend Mike Fisher for the YouTube video down below.

President Trump Tabs Jerry Jones, Mark Cuban to ‘Re-Open America’ Advisory Board

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DALLAS - President Donald Trump recently met with all of the major-league sports commissioners to discuss the issue of COVID-19. And on Tuesday he announced another sports-related next step: The formation of a “Re-Open America” advisory committee that will include Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

“We need to get our sports back,” Trump said in his Tuesday briefing from the White House.

Other names on the committee include NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, NBA commissioner  Adam Silver, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Dana White, and Vince McMahon.

The NBA, NHL and MLB have seen their regular seasons impacted by the coronavirus outbreak, which each league going on "hiatus.”

The NFL has had to cancel the annual owner meetings, has prohibited teams from using their facilities in the usual extensive way, and has turned its NFL Draft (April 23-25) into a TV event rather than one attended by half-a-million people, as was the original plan in Las Vegas.
 
Sports leaders have been vocal and optimistic about how sports and entertainment can be key to America's mental health; the White House clearly shares those views.

https://1053thefan.radio.com/articles/news/trump-tabs-jerry-jones-mark-cuban-to-%E2%80%98re-open-america

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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2020, 02:05:03 AM

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China didn’t warn public of likely pandemic for 6 key days
Associated Press ^ | April 15, 2020
Posted on 4/15/2020, 1:33:00 AM by Olog-hai

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations.

President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by that time, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and expert estimates based on retrospective infection data.

Six days.

That delay from Jan. 14 to Jan. 20 was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing the virus.

But the delay by the first country to face the new coronavirus came at a critical time — the beginning of the outbreak. China’s attempt to walk a line between alerting the public and avoiding panic set the stage for a pandemic that has infected almost 2 million people and taken more than 126,000 lives.

“This is tremendous,” said Zuo-Feng Zhang, an epidemiologist at the University of California, Los Angeles. “If they took action six days earlier, there would have been much fewer patients and medical facilities would have been sufficient. We might have avoided the collapse of Wuhan’s medical system.” …

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Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: OzmO on April 15, 2020, 06:45:49 AM
Those fuckers need to be held accountable for this after it's over.  They should get charged what our economy lost against the debt they have on us.



Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2020, 11:20:55 AM
https://apnews.com/68a9e1b91de4ffc166acd6012d82c2f9?fbclid=IwAR1QCW-NZyWOqNqmOKXatbp25_ERolhxGdeTBvbfzguvO0uY91VIj0zAis4

This is why Strawfagget can go eat a bigfatD! 

Those disgusting communist worthless lying scum are all responsible for this.   
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: OzmO on April 15, 2020, 11:30:27 AM
https://apnews.com/68a9e1b91de4ffc166acd6012d82c2f9?fbclid=IwAR1QCW-NZyWOqNqmOKXatbp25_ERolhxGdeTBvbfzguvO0uY91VIj0zAis4

This is why Strawfagget can go eat a bigfatD! 

Those disgusting communist worthless lying scum are all responsible for this.   

these mother fuckers owe the world the cost of this virus. 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 15, 2020, 11:40:12 AM
these mother fuckers owe the world the cost of this virus. 

This lays out clearly how they F'd the entire world 
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2020, 06:00:01 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-china-nuclear/china-may-have-conducted-low-level-nuclear-test-blasts-us-says-idUSKCN21X386?fbclid=IwAR3rHIWNw7prI9VyK8CYOZUa5I89NjPv2AqKr4YDTrMWzQTaMSwuI9o7Omw


whoa! 

Still want carry water for these pigs Strawqueen?
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2020, 06:19:25 AM
Leaked State Department cables add weight to the theory that COVID-19 started in a Wuhan virology lab
The Blaze ^ | April 15, 2020 | Phil Silver
Posted on 4/16/2020, 9:17:50


In 2018 — nearly two years before the start of the global coronavirus pandemic — U.S. officials in China sent warnings to Washington expressing safety concerns over a Wuhan facility's research into coronaviruses in horseshoe bats, adding weight to the theory that the novel virus originated in a lab and not at a Wuhan wet market.

The news broke in a report Wednesday by Josh Rogin of the Washington Post, who said that he obtained access to the first of two diplomatic cables sent from State Department officials who had visited the Wuhan Institute of Virology in January and March 2018.

According to Rogin, in January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing sent American science diplomats to the Wuhan lab, which had in 2017 become the first lab in China to achieve BSL-4 clearance, or the highest level of bioresearch safety. That clearance — granted by a Chinese accrediting agency — allowed researchers at the lab to study the world's most dangerous pathogens.

Evidently, what the U.S. officials discovered during their visits concerned them so much that they proceeded to send two Sensitive But Unclassified cables back to Washington. In the first cable, according to Rogin, the officials warned that inadequate safety measures and risky research could result in a new SARS-like pandemic.

"During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators to safely operate this high-containment laboratory," states the Jan. 19, 2018 cable.

"Most importantly...the researchers also showed that various SARS-like coronaviruses can interact with ACE2, the human receptor identified for SARS-coronavirus. This finding strongly suggests that SARS-like coronaviruses from bats can be transmitted to humans to cause SARS-like diseases. "

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Post by: OzmO on April 16, 2020, 06:45:31 AM
Coronavirus sprang from Wuhan facility as China strove to compete with US, sources say

(https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources)
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2020, 07:12:37 AM
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Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2020, 08:00:07 AM
Bombshell: Documents Show China Knew About Coronavirus Human-to-Human Transmission While Denying It to the World
Townhall ^ | 04/16/2020 | Guy Benson
Posted on 4/16/2020, 10:36:07 AM by SeekAndFind

This isn't a "bombshell" in the sense that it delivers stunning or shocking information. We already knew that China's government has been lying to the world for months about the Wuhan coronavirus, with their active cover-up alive and well -- very much unlike an unknown number of their citizens. Nevertheless, yesterday's Associated Press scoop, featuring information gleaned from leaked internal documents, is damning and remarkable for the timeline it exposes:

Bombshell from @AP: internal Chinese documents show central govt held teleconference on Jan 14 with instructions from Xi on epidemic & acknowledged likely H2H transmission.
China CDC and WHO publicly said that day "no clear evidence" of transmission. https://t.co/epU4m33SRo— Gerry Shih (@gerryshih) April 15, 2020

In the six days after top Chinese officials secretly determined they likely were facing a pandemic from a new coronavirus, the city of Wuhan at the epicenter of the disease hosted a mass banquet for tens of thousands of people; millions began traveling through for Lunar New Year celebrations. President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by that time, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and expert estimates based on retrospective infection data...the six-day delay by China’s leaders in Beijing came on top of almost two weeks during which the national Center for Disease Control did not register any cases from local officials, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirm. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan but across the country...what is clear, experts say, is that China’s rigid controls on information, bureaucratic hurdles and a reluctance to send bad news up the chain of command muffled early warnings.

Further details on the tick tock demonstrate that Chinese officials understood the reality about human-to-human transmission far sooner than they let on:

The documents show that the head of China’s National Health Commission, Ma Xiaowei, laid out a grim assessment of the situation on Jan. 14 in a confidential teleconference with provincial health officials. A memo states that the teleconference was held to convey instructions on the coronavirus from President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang and Vice Premier Sun Chunlan, but does not specify what those instructions were...Under a section titled “sober understanding of the situation,” the memo said that “clustered cases suggest that human-to-human transmission is possible.” It singled out the case in Thailand, saying that the situation had “changed significantly” because of the possible spread of the virus abroad. “With the coming of the Spring Festival, many people will be traveling, and the risk of transmission and spread is high,” the memo continued. “All localities must prepare for and respond to a pandemic.” In the memo, Ma demanded officials unite around Xi and made clear that political considerations and social stability were key priorities during the long lead-up to China’s two biggest political meetings of the year in March. While the documents do not spell out why Chinese leaders waited six days to make their concerns public, the meetings may be one reason.

January 14 is a significant date because it coincides with the World Health Organization's infamous tweet repeating China's bogus assurances to the global community about human-to-human spread. Beijing knew this was false, yet their lapdogs at WHO were spoon-fed false information that harmed and delayed the world's collective response to the outbreak (despite warnings to the contrary):

Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China????. pic.twitter.com/Fnl5P877VG— World Health Organization (WHO) (@WHO) January 14, 2020


Even after it became undeniably clear that China had lied and suppressed information, WHO's leader continued to lavish praise on the communist regime, which had been instrumental in his ascension to the influential position (perhaps Beijing saw Tedros' alleged cover-up of a cholera outbreak in Africa as a feature, not a bug, of his candidacy). Beyond that, top WHO officials have also notably antagonized Taiwan, further doing China's political bidding. The Associated Press obtained the documents from a whistleblower who understandably requested anonymity, then confirmed their authenticity with others. If these sources are ever revealed, it's likely that they'd be "disappeared," along with other truth-tellers and critics of the regime on this front. Enforced censorship is a theme of the AP piece:

The punishment of eight doctors for “rumor-mongering,” broadcast on national television on Jan. 2, sent a chill through the city’s hospitals. “Doctors in Wuhan were afraid,” said Dali Yang, a professor of Chinese politics at the University of Chicago. “It was truly intimidation of an entire profession.”

And now the bully regime that throws minorities into internment camps, violently suppresses liberties, enforces mandatory abortions, harvests organs from political prisoners, and continues to lie about the deadly pandemic it uniquely and outrageous enabled is scolding the Trump administration for its tough but correct decision to withhold funding from the failed and compromised WHO, pending an investigation:

NEW: China urges the U.S. not to halt its funding to the World Health Organization, saying it would undermine the global fight against the coronavirus pandemic. https://t.co/T3P78xmT5x pic.twitter.com/MwbvYuunQO— ABC News (@ABC) April 15, 2020


The United States has been the top contributor nation to the World Health Organization for years, by a long shot. If China is so upset about what's happening here, allow me to strongly endorse this sentiment: "Let China pay for its own mouthpiece."
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on April 16, 2020, 12:42:13 PM
China's inaction for 3 days in January at root of pandemic
Nikkei Asian Review ^ | March 19, 2020 | KATSUJI NAKAZAWA
Posted on 4/16/2020, 3:26:47 PM by Renkluaf

Chinese students are returning home in droves from European countries, convinced that it is now safer to be in China to avoid the new coronavirus.

For municipalities such as Beijing, the arrivals pose a serious risk of a second wave of infections, as the students come back from virus-hit nations.

Right as the battle against the invisible enemy looked as if it had turned a corner and given China a glimmer of hope, the second wave threatens to cancel hard-earned gains.

The response toward the students has been harsh on Chinese social media. "They left the country in the first place because they like foreign countries better. Don't return with the virus now," one poster wrote.

"They are spoiled rich kids, and they run away when times get tough," wrote another.

Fearing a second wave, the Beijing government made a bombshell announcement that all travelers arriving in the Chinese capital from abroad would be forcibly quarantined for 14 days at "centralized observation centers" designated by authorities.

The compulsory quarantine, which went into force on Monday, applies to foreign nationals as well. Arrivals are isolated regardless of whether they have symptoms, and they have to pay for their stay.

The purpose of the compulsory quarantine is to tightly control SARS-CoV-2 -- the new coronavirus that has spread to various parts of the world from Wuhan, in China's Hubei Province.

The number of cases brought back into China from abroad has been surging in recent days. According to figures released by the Chinese government on Tuesday, the total number of imported cases in China reached 143, with Beijing alone accounting for 40 of them.

The infections have ignited worries of a small leak sinking a great ship.

If the virus were to catch fire again, this time through carriers coming back from overseas, all the stringent movement-restrictions enforced within China will have been meaningless. The progress made so far in the "people's war on the virus," which Chinese President Xi Jinping repeatedly talks about, could be reduced to ashes.

Zhong Nanshan -- the 83-year-old medical doctor specializing in respiratory diseases who became a national hero in the fight against SARS in 2003 -- is spearheading the fight against this coronavirus.

Zhong's team made an interesting observation of the threat China was facing in the initial stages of the crisis. Noting that the actual situation in Hubei in January was far worse than the media was suggesting, his team said that "a five-day delay in controlling the virus would have led to three times as many infections."

The team added that a "failure to control the situation in Wuhan would have caused a second peak of the outbreak in Hubei Province around mid-March and would have continued until late April."

It was a race against time.

The Chinese government locked down Wuhan on Jan. 23, halting all public transportation going in and out of the city. The following day an order was issued suspending group travel within China. But in a blunder that would have far reaching consequences, China did not issue an order suspending group travel to foreign countries until three days later, on Jan. 27.

In retrospect, it was a painful mistake. This is what happened in those critical three days:

The weeklong Lunar New Year string of holidays began on Jan. 24, with the outbound traffic peak lasting through Jan. 27.

The Chinese government let the massive exodus of group travelers continue despite the public health crisis. No explanation has been given.

Furthermore, while suspending group travel, China did nothing to limit individuals traveling overseas.

Groups account for less than half of all Chinese tourists heading abroad.

Chinese travelers journeyed to Japan, South Korea, Italy, Spain, France, the U.K., Australia, North America and South America, one planeload after another.

This was happening while many restaurants in China were unable to open for business due to the outbreak. It is said that once abroad, many Chinese prolonged their vacations as much as possible to avoid having to return home.

The number of infections gradually increased at popular winter destinations, such as Japan's Hokkaido. In other destinations like Thailand, cases have surged in recent days.

A considerable number of Chinese individual travelers were staying put in the Hokkaido capital of Sapporo in mid-February, even after the annual Snow Festival ended.

The five-day delay that Zhong's team warned about did not happen. But in reality, a three-day delay did. And as the doctor predicted, infections spread to many people, and across the world. Now we are seeing the "second wave" that the team talked about.

After the first wave hit China, the outbreak went on a second wave across the world, especially in Europe. The number of deaths from the coronavirus in Italy, home to many Chinese residents, has topped 2,100.

The delay in the Chinese government's ban on group travel to foreign countries may have helped to double or possibly triple the number of people infected.

In the days before Wuhan was locked down on Jan. 23, as many as 5 million of its 11 million citizens had already left the city, as the mayor and others have testified.

Chinese authorities are now busy coping with a growing number of coronavirus cases flying back into the country. A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson described the inflow as "the main risk" the country is facing.

To accommodate the inbound travelers, the Beijing government has reopened Xiaotangshan Hospital. If travelers arriving in Beijing on flights from abroad test positive for the virus during their compulsory 14-day intensive observation period, they will be sent to the hospital, which has a little more than 1,000 beds.

The hospital is far away from the central part of Beijing. It was thrown up during the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome to quarantine patients.

This time, renovation work was launched at the end of January to prepare for a possible dramatic rise in the number of patients in Beijing.

The reopening is a symbol of Beijing facing another crisis.

The compulsory 14-day quarantine cannot be good for business. Foreign businesspeople will likely be scared away. It will become difficult for China to attract foreign investment, and supply chain disruptions could become even more serious.

Already, China's economy has been dealt a serious blow. The main economic figures for the January-February period, including industrial production, all posted negative growth for the first time since records began. Growth in gross domestic product for the January-March quarter is also likely to be negative.

The virus's spread in Europe and the U.S. will lead to a slump in demand for goods exported by China.

The current crisis will also affect China's politics. When can a postponed annual session of the National People's Congress, China's parliament, be held? It depends on whether the second wave of infections can be contained.

The Chinese leadership has envisioned a V-shaped economic recovery beginning in April. But the global spread of the virus has cast a dark cloud over that scenario.

Xi's team faces a bumpy road ahead as it seeks to simultaneously move the stalled domestic economy ahead and bring the virus under control.

Katsuji Nakazawa is a Tokyo-based senior staff writer and editorial writer at Nikkei. He has spent seven years in China as a correspondent and later as China bureau chief. He is the 2014 recipient of the Vaughn-Ueda International Journalist prize for international reporting.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Yamcha on April 19, 2020, 09:09:25 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2020, 05:49:57 AM
DHS report: China hid virus’ severity to hoard supplies
AP ^ | 05 03 2020 | WILL WEISSERT



U.S. officials believe China covered up the extent of the coronavirus outbreak — and how contagious the disease is — to stock up on medical supplies needed to respond to it, intelligence documents show.

Chinese leaders “intentionally concealed the severity” of the pandemic from the world in early January, according to a four-page Department of Homeland Security intelligence report dated May 1 and obtained by The Associated Press. The revelation comes as the Trump administration has intensified its criticism of China, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo saying Sunday that that country was responsible for the spread of disease and must be held accountable.

The sharper rhetoric coincides with administration critics saying the government’s response to the virus was slow and inadequate. President Donald Trump’s political opponents have accused him of lashing out at China, a geopolitical foe but critical U.S. trade partner, in an attempt to deflect criticism at home.

Not classified but marked “for official use only,” the DHS analysis states that, while downplaying the severity of the coronavirus, China increased imports and decreased exports of medical supplies. It attempted to cover up doing so by “denying there were export restrictions and obfuscating and delaying provision of its trade data,” the analysis states.

The report also says China held off informing the World Health Organization that the coronavirus “was a contagion” for much of January so it could order medical supplies from abroad — and that its imports of face masks and surgical gowns and gloves increased sharply.

Those conclusions are based on the 95% probability that China’s changes in imports and export behavior were not within normal range, according to the report.

SNIP

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Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2020, 08:07:10 AM
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/03/us-intelligence-documents-accuse-china-of-covering-up-coronavirus-outbreak.html?__source=Facebook%7Cmain&fbclid=IwAR0HMChO_uZ1d4XzokrvraXFgZVIiKgT1IZV64e_C3WTDxULhw_zTTnbKwg

Straw TWINK can f off along w the rest of the libs.

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Soul Crusher on May 04, 2020, 08:16:36 AM
China pushes back against US claims that Coronavirus originated from Wuhan lab
CNN ^ | 05/04/2020 | Nectar Gan
Posted on 5/4/2020


A nationalist tabloid controlled by the Chinese Communist Party has dismissed claims by the Trump administration that the novel coronavirus originated from a laboratory, as the war of words over the pandemic escalates between Washington and Beijing.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Sunday in an interview with ABC that there was "enormous evidence" Covid-19 originated in a laboratory in the Chinese city of Wuhan, where the outbreak was first detected last December. He did not provide details to support the claim.

Responding to Pompeo's comments, China's state owned Global Times newspaper said in an editorial Monday that the former CIA director had "stunned the world with groundless accusations."

"Since Pompeo said his claims are supported by 'enormous evidence,' then he should present this so-called evidence to the world, and especially to the American public who he continually tries to fool," the editorial said.

"The truth is that Pompeo does not have any evidence, and during Sunday's interview, he was bluffing."

CNN reached out to China's foreign ministry for comment on Pompeo's claims, but received no response. The country is in the middle of a five-day holiday that runs through Tuesday.

Scientists around the world have condemned conspiracy theories suggesting that Covid-19 does not have a natural origin, pointing to studies that suggest it originated in wildlife.

China has faced criticism at home and abroad over its handling of the virus, especially during the initial outbreak. It was accused of silencing whistle-blowers and delaying in informing the public about the severity of the crisis.

But critics allege Washington has ramped up efforts to blame China for the global spread of the virus as it faces growing criticism at home for its own handling of the pandemic. To date, the US has recorded more than 1.1 million cases

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Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Dos Equis on May 04, 2020, 04:42:11 PM
Shout out to Dallas Fort Worth media legend Mike Fisher for the YouTube video down below.

President Trump Tabs Jerry Jones, Mark Cuban to ‘Re-Open America’ Advisory Board

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DALLAS - President Donald Trump recently met with all of the major-league sports commissioners to discuss the issue of COVID-19. And on Tuesday he announced another sports-related next step: The formation of a “Re-Open America” advisory committee that will include Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban and Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

“We need to get our sports back,” Trump said in his Tuesday briefing from the White House.

Other names on the committee include NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, NBA commissioner  Adam Silver, MLB commissioner Rob Manfred, NHL commissioner Gary Bettman, Patriots owner Robert Kraft, Dana White, and Vince McMahon.

The NBA, NHL and MLB have seen their regular seasons impacted by the coronavirus outbreak, which each league going on "hiatus.”

The NFL has had to cancel the annual owner meetings, has prohibited teams from using their facilities in the usual extensive way, and has turned its NFL Draft (April 23-25) into a TV event rather than one attended by half-a-million people, as was the original plan in Las Vegas.
 
Sports leaders have been vocal and optimistic about how sports and entertainment can be key to America's mental health; the White House clearly shares those views.

https://1053thefan.radio.com/articles/news/trump-tabs-jerry-jones-mark-cuban-to-%E2%80%98re-open-america



Outstanding idea.
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Straw Man on May 04, 2020, 04:44:18 PM
Straw getting sodomized as per usual

feels good to be back

And you're still projecting your gay fantasies again....as usual

I haven't even looked at this thread

A few weeks ago a mod (I wonder who) banned me for posting inconvenient facts about the Liar in Chief

Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Straw Man on May 04, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
Looks like Trump and Trumptards are still looking for any excuse to distract the country from Trump continuing disastrous response to this thread to our country

If only he hadn't ignored his own Daily Briefings in January and immediately ramped up nationwide testing and contact tracing maybe we wouldn't have had to shut down the country

Oh well, I'm sure he's preparing us for a swift response to the next pandemic

I hear he might even create a pandemic response office in the White House

That would be a great idea
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on May 05, 2020, 12:33:06 AM


A few weeks ago a mod (I wonder who) banned me for posting inconvenient facts about the Lion in Chief



I pay him in Aussie $ to ban you  ;D
Title: Re: Let's being FNG GDDMN Real - the blame for here is on China alone.
Post by: illuminati on May 05, 2020, 02:09:21 AM


A few weeks ago a mod (I wonder who) banned me for posting inconvenient facts about the Liar in Chief


As much as I dislike you Generally & your Non Stop Butt hurt crying & whinging about Your Great Leader Donald, - Stop Posting about Him as Your Posts on the UFO thread are much better to Read.