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they suspect it was the covid 19 that caused bob gruskin's death april 14. he touched many careers of east coast bodybuilders.
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:'( no pun intended.
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:'(
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RIP
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RIP.
Gruskin was once considered a top steroid procurer in the 80's, early 90's. Wayne Demilia mentioned him having refrigerators of the stuff for his "big, thick, good-looking white guys" :). Source -
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZeCEBQAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&pg=PA318#v=onepage&q=gruskin&f=false .
(Click page 318 for the story).
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RIP.
Gruskin was once considered a top steroid procurer in the 80's, early 90's. Wayne Demilia mentioned him having refrigerators of the stuff for his "big, thick, good-looking white guys" :). Source -
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZeCEBQAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&pg=PA318#v=onepage&q=gruskin&f=false .
(Click page 318 for the story).
good find i have that book along with fair's book on york pa.
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RIP.
Gruskin was once considered a top steroid procurer in the 80's, early 90's. Wayne Demilia mentioned him having refrigerators of the stuff for his "big, thick, good-looking white guys" :). Source -
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZeCEBQAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&pg=PA318#v=onepage&q=gruskin&f=false .
(Click page 318 for the story).
You can’t swing a dead cat in this industry without hitting a shmoe.
J
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RIP.
Gruskin was once considered a top steroid procurer in the 80's, early 90's. Wayne Demilia mentioned him having refrigerators of the stuff for his "big, thick, good-looking white guys" :). Source -
https://books.google.com/books?id=ZeCEBQAAQBAJ&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&lpg=PP1&pg=PA318#v=onepage&q=gruskin&f=false .
(Click page 318 for the story).
Gawd - this "industry" is just another form of prostitution.
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The only cause of death for bodybuilders is steroids.
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Chris Acetos mentor. Taught Chris most of what he knows nutrition wise. Check Acetos Instagram. Alreasy a post on Gruskin.
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Full schmoe certification for certain, but very well liked and knowledgeable from everything that is out there.
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=665030.0;attach=790504;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=665030.0;attach=790505;image)
Full schmoe certification for certain, but very well liked and knowledgeable from everything that is out there.
Lmao! The original Lon Teper
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Good eye for talent ;);)all aau guys looked great ,legs were always top notch on them.used to gym come to where I trained in early 90s I trained around a lot of local good bbers then.they all knew him.
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Full schmoe certification for certain, but very well liked and knowledgeable from everything that is out there.
Did he swallow too? LOL
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Bob had a lot to do with jump starting the careers of many of my friends from back in Springfield Mass.
Jeff,King,Chris Aceto,Pat Hayes Rick Sampson and Rich Roy just to name a few .
I met Bob in the gym back in the 1970s but got to know him much better later on in life when I competed in the NABBA USA bodybuilding organization.
Was always very nice to me and loved reminiscing about King and Aceto and the other guys from our gym.
Was heavily involved in NABBA USA.......lots of conjecture about Bob being gay but he never seemed that way to me and if he was,it is what it is..........he was cool with me.
RIP
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Chris Acetos mentor. Taught Chris most of what he knows nutrition wise. Check Acetos Instagram. Alreasy a post on Gruskin.
Aceto ( like him or not ) is a decent man. No question he would post as soon as he found out.
J
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Harmless schmoe. He will be saved.
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My first show was promoted by Bob. He said I will be Mr. Universe one day, I didnt believe that at the time but it pushed me to train harder and pursue competing. Compared to NPC, NABBA treated athletes very well and back stage always had plenty of weights, fruits, and water for athletes needs. I didnt know he trained many greats at the time, had I known, perhaps I'd sought his help. He was a great guy and will be missed.
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Had a nation wide role but really helped out a lot of the local guys in NY
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Guzman,+Jose
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Had a nation wide role but really helped out a lot of the local guys in NY
http://musclememory.com/show.php?a=Guzman,+Jose
and pa joe meeko being one.
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Chris Acetos mentor. Taught Chris most of what he knows nutrition wise. Check Acetos Instagram. Alreasy a post on Gruskin.
WRONG!!
Jeff King taught Chris.................I was there and I`m right.
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If I can read through the lines he was a drug dealer for bodybuilders?
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If I can read through the lines he was a drug dealer for bodybuilders?
That's what I've always heard, but never any detailed stories. Gruskin was a chemistry professor for one of the city colleges for many years, and supposedly knew how to source, and such. Plus, he had an in with most of the important people, particularly on the east coast because he was around covering contests, doing magazine interviews, etc....
For what it's worth, I never heard anything bad about him either, which is rare, in fact most seem to speak about him in glowing terms. He was like a lower budget Ed Conners it seems.
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Fat and bald, looking unhealthy, and yet he lived to be 83, may he rest in peace, may God bless his soul
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he was affiliated with those cheap east coast bodybuilding mags in the late 70's early 80's , he held titles like associated editor and such.
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Dave Polumbo/RxMuscle has a really good 2 part series on Bob and the guys he trained.
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Dave Polumbo/RxMuscle has a really good 2 part series on Bob and the guys he trained.
good find.
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Dave Polumbo/RxMuscle has a really good 2 part series on Bob and the guys he trained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSoJeCe508Y
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;D http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Teen+Mr+America+-+AAU&y=1977
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another guy mentioned in video mr super spectrim
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RIP
Reminds me so much of Lonnie Teper by way of his facial expressions and industry involvement.
"1"
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When I was a kid Bob was in the gym doing a photo shoot with Pat Hayes.............told me I looked good and if I brought up my legs he`d get me in a magazine.
100 years later and over 60 contests and still never had legs......but not for lack of training my balls off !! LOL ;D
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RIP
Reminds me so much of Lonnie Teper by way of his facial expressions and industry involvement.
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He was a schmoe’s schmoe. May he Rest In Peace
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When I was a kid Bob was in the gym doing a photo shoot with Pat Hayes.............told me I looked good and if I brought up my legs he`d get me in a magazine.
100 years later and over 60 contests and still never had legs......but not for lack of training my balls off !! LOL ;D
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/8c/9c/cd8c9ced0921ccb2ae827f37367c3b70.jpg)
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WRONG!!
Jeff King taught Chris.................I was there and I`m right.
Ok....then I guess Acetos own words on his Instagram are lies. Aceto says that Gruskin taight him everything he knows.
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I did a tribute show for Bob Gruskin on my Bodybuilding Legends Podcast with John DeFendis, Tom Terwilliger, Jerry Scalesse and Richard Politano -
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I did a tribute show for Bob Gruskin on my Bodybuilding Legends Podcast with John DeFendis, Tom Terwilliger, Jerry Scalesse and Richard Politano -
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8)Good stuff
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(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/cd/8c/9c/cd8c9ced0921ccb2ae827f37367c3b70.jpg)
probably the one from this mag that's pat on the cover.
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EATING FOR THE HARD GAINER BY JOE MEEKO
joe meeko bodybuilding diet
9. April 2020 by Mr.Berg
The following article was written by Mr. America Winner (1984) Joe Meeko in magazine S&H around 1980. – Mr. Berg
“When I became seriously interested in bodybuilding, I attended a number of seminars conducted by top bodybuilders – Mike Mentzer and Gary Leonard, to name but two.
The majority of the seminars were on nutrition and, quite frankly, I wasn’t all that interested in listening to a talk on how to eat. I wanted to know how to train – what exercises were best for what bodypart, etc.
I wanted them to tell me how to become bigger…and they were doing just that but I was too naive in the sport to realize it. Eventually, though, I saw the light. And from these seminars – and from a lot of nutrition articles I’ve read subsequently – I’ve learned that bodybuilding is about 75 percent nutrition and 25 percent hard training.
Believe me, there is much truth to the saying, “You are what you eat.” You can train for hours on end in the gym but if you don’t eat right, you’ll gain nothing.
An example of this can be seen in abdominals training – you can do 1000 situps a day and all of the leg raises you want but your abs won’t show through if you don’t eat the right foods to burn off the fat in and around these muscles.
When I began bodybuilding – and I’m sure the same is true for most beginners – mass was very important to me. We all want to become bigger so we go to the gym and train like madmen. Because of this, we think we are going to grow. But, as stated, we must eat the right foods – and in sufficient quantities – in order to obtain the mass we want.
joe meeko bodybuilding diet
By eating the right foods, I mean good quality protein and good quality carbohydrates. Even if you are training properly and eating the proper foods, however, you still might not grow if you’re not eating enough. This is the problem I encountered when I started training.
Because of my unusually fast metabolism, I had trouble putting on muscle-weight even though I was training hard and eating right. To solve this problem, I began to force-feed myself..even when I wasn’t hungry. Of course it was a very uncomfortable way to gain weight, but I thought it was necessary.
I would eat until I felt as though I had to vomit, and then I would relax awhile until the feeling of nausea went away. Then I would force something else down..and this process went on throughout the day. I even had to start force-feeding myself with high-calorie junk foods once in a while because the good foods I ate didn’t contain enough calories for me to have a positive weight gain.
At first, as you might imagine, this method simply does not work, because your body will reject the extra food you are taking in. After a time, though, the body will begin to accept the extra food and you’ll begin to put on weight. The time span for this effect, of course, will be different for everyone. Some words of caution: I am not recommending that someone force-feed himself the way I did, but if you are not gaining weight and you are training hard, you are simply probably not taking in enough food.
If you are trying to bulk up and put on mass, you will have to sacrifice some muscularity or “cuts”. However, don’t let more than an inch of fat accumulate around year waist. Anything more is an abnormal amount while trying to put on size.
Now for some specifics: Most of the food you consume should come from natural sources — protein, for example, from egg whites, fish, chicken and good lean meats, and your carbohydrates from potatoes, pasta, breads, fruits and vegetables.
Also, keep your fat consumption as low as possible. In fact, the fat you’ll get from even the lean red meats will be sufficient. By all means, though, avoid butter, cheeses, cakes and pies – these are true junk foods which will go right to your waist and they are very difficult to work off.
An average meal for me is as follows: My protein is consumed first because the digestion time for this food element is longer than that for carbohydrates. Therefore, I start with two-dozen egg whites, a pound or so of haddock, and about a pound of chicken breasts. Then I have my carbohydrates – a half-box of spaghetti, a bowl of rice, and a fruit salad consisting of two bananas, grapes, chunks of pineapple and apples.
Now get ready for what some people consider a shocker. With slight variations in some of the protein and carbohydrate sources, I repeated this meal about five times during the day.
One important rule in any weight gaining program is to eat a greater number of smaller meals – as opposed to a few larger ones – because your body will absorb more nutrients this way.
Now I realize that the meals I eat might seem rather large, but they are average for me because I burn up the foods quickly due to my metabolism. If I didn’t eat this much food I would start to shrink and burn muscle.
As far as food supplementation is concerned, you can get part of your protein source from the powdered drinks on the market, which are easily absorbed by the body. In the past, I used two or three protein drinks – mixed with whole milk – per day.
Now, I take a protein drink right after a training session. Each drink contains at least 30 grams of protein and it may even contain enough carbohydrates for quick energy. I mix the powder with orange juice – or any other juice – or low fat milk.
Recently, I have been taking free-form amino acids. They are quickly absorbed by the body and they help, specifically, in recuperation. Since taking the aminos – usually five or six tablets with each meal – I don’t seem to get as sore the day after a workout.
As for the natural growth hormone stimulants – arginine and arnithine – I have not tried them as yet but I intend to in the near future.
Vitamins? I don’t go overboard with them since I get most of my vitamins and minerals from the foods I eat. But bear in mind that many of the vitamins are water-soluble – cannot be stored – and your body needs and uses them every day. Among these are the B-complex vitamins and vitamin C. You also need an adequate source of minerals for normal body metabolism and growth.
For some, of course, there is a definite need for vitamin mineral supplementation, especially if food intake is inadequate or if one fails to eat balanced foods. Although many of the vitamin-mineral supplements available commercially are fine, seek out those which are time-released, balanced and highly absorbable.
An excellent book on nutrition, one which should be a must in any bodybuilder’s reference library, is The Nutrition Almanac, published by the McGrow-Hill Book Company of New York City. It can definitely provide the answers to most of your questions on nutrition.
Please remember that the amount of force-feeding I did is not recommended for everyone – even if, like me, you are a hard gainer. I went about it in a slow, gradual way over a period of years until I was able to consume all the food that I new eat. I only suggest you try it if all else fails.
Remember, too, that muscle mass does not come easily. For some, it takes years of proper eating and hard, consistent training. So if you’re not gaining weight, be patient and don’t get discouraged. Keep training hard and eating quality foods in sufficient quantities and the gains will come.”
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All my good old friends from Big Daddy in Springfield............. great guys.
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Was Chick friends with him?
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EATING FOR THE HARD GAINER BY JOE MEEKO
joe meeko bodybuilding diet
9. April 2020 by Mr.Berg
The following article was written by Mr. America Winner (1984) Joe Meeko in magazine S&H around 1980. – Mr. Berg
“When I became seriously interested in bodybuilding, I attended a number of seminars conducted by top bodybuilders – Mike Mentzer and Gary Leonard, to name but two.
The majority of the seminars were on nutrition and, quite frankly, I wasn’t all that interested in listening to a talk on how to eat. I wanted to know how to train – what exercises were best for what bodypart, etc.
I wanted them to tell me how to become bigger…and they were doing just that but I was too naive in the sport to realize it. Eventually, though, I saw the light. And from these seminars – and from a lot of nutrition articles I’ve read subsequently – I’ve learned that bodybuilding is about 75 percent nutrition and 25 percent hard training.
Believe me, there is much truth to the saying, “You are what you eat.” You can train for hours on end in the gym but if you don’t eat right, you’ll gain nothing.
An example of this can be seen in abdominals training – you can do 1000 situps a day and all of the leg raises you want but your abs won’t show through if you don’t eat the right foods to burn off the fat in and around these muscles.
When I began bodybuilding – and I’m sure the same is true for most beginners – mass was very important to me. We all want to become bigger so we go to the gym and train like madmen. Because of this, we think we are going to grow. But, as stated, we must eat the right foods – and in sufficient quantities – in order to obtain the mass we want.
joe meeko bodybuilding diet
By eating the right foods, I mean good quality protein and good quality carbohydrates. Even if you are training properly and eating the proper foods, however, you still might not grow if you’re not eating enough. This is the problem I encountered when I started training.
Because of my unusually fast metabolism, I had trouble putting on muscle-weight even though I was training hard and eating right. To solve this problem, I began to force-feed myself..even when I wasn’t hungry. Of course it was a very uncomfortable way to gain weight, but I thought it was necessary.
I would eat until I felt as though I had to vomit, and then I would relax awhile until the feeling of nausea went away. Then I would force something else down..and this process went on throughout the day. I even had to start force-feeding myself with high-calorie junk foods once in a while because the good foods I ate didn’t contain enough calories for me to have a positive weight gain.
At first, as you might imagine, this method simply does not work, because your body will reject the extra food you are taking in. After a time, though, the body will begin to accept the extra food and you’ll begin to put on weight. The time span for this effect, of course, will be different for everyone. Some words of caution: I am not recommending that someone force-feed himself the way I did, but if you are not gaining weight and you are training hard, you are simply probably not taking in enough food.
If you are trying to bulk up and put on mass, you will have to sacrifice some muscularity or “cuts”. However, don’t let more than an inch of fat accumulate around year waist. Anything more is an abnormal amount while trying to put on size.
Now for some specifics: Most of the food you consume should come from natural sources — protein, for example, from egg whites, fish, chicken and good lean meats, and your carbohydrates from potatoes, pasta, breads, fruits and vegetables.
Also, keep your fat consumption as low as possible. In fact, the fat you’ll get from even the lean red meats will be sufficient. By all means, though, avoid butter, cheeses, cakes and pies – these are true junk foods which will go right to your waist and they are very difficult to work off.
An average meal for me is as follows: My protein is consumed first because the digestion time for this food element is longer than that for carbohydrates. Therefore, I start with two-dozen egg whites, a pound or so of haddock, and about a pound of chicken breasts. Then I have my carbohydrates – a half-box of spaghetti, a bowl of rice, and a fruit salad consisting of two bananas, grapes, chunks of pineapple and apples.
Now get ready for what some people consider a shocker. With slight variations in some of the protein and carbohydrate sources, I repeated this meal about five times during the day.
One important rule in any weight gaining program is to eat a greater number of smaller meals – as opposed to a few larger ones – because your body will absorb more nutrients this way.
Now I realize that the meals I eat might seem rather large, but they are average for me because I burn up the foods quickly due to my metabolism. If I didn’t eat this much food I would start to shrink and burn muscle.
As far as food supplementation is concerned, you can get part of your protein source from the powdered drinks on the market, which are easily absorbed by the body. In the past, I used two or three protein drinks – mixed with whole milk – per day.
Now, I take a protein drink right after a training session. Each drink contains at least 30 grams of protein and it may even contain enough carbohydrates for quick energy. I mix the powder with orange juice – or any other juice – or low fat milk.
Recently, I have been taking free-form amino acids. They are quickly absorbed by the body and they help, specifically, in recuperation. Since taking the aminos – usually five or six tablets with each meal – I don’t seem to get as sore the day after a workout.
As for the natural growth hormone stimulants – arginine and arnithine – I have not tried them as yet but I intend to in the near future.
Vitamins? I don’t go overboard with them since I get most of my vitamins and minerals from the foods I eat. But bear in mind that many of the vitamins are water-soluble – cannot be stored – and your body needs and uses them every day. Among these are the B-complex vitamins and vitamin C. You also need an adequate source of minerals for normal body metabolism and growth.
For some, of course, there is a definite need for vitamin mineral supplementation, especially if food intake is inadequate or if one fails to eat balanced foods. Although many of the vitamin-mineral supplements available commercially are fine, seek out those which are time-released, balanced and highly absorbable.
An excellent book on nutrition, one which should be a must in any bodybuilder’s reference library, is The Nutrition Almanac, published by the McGrow-Hill Book Company of New York City. It can definitely provide the answers to most of your questions on nutrition.
Please remember that the amount of force-feeding I did is not recommended for everyone – even if, like me, you are a hard gainer. I went about it in a slow, gradual way over a period of years until I was able to consume all the food that I new eat. I only suggest you try it if all else fails.
Remember, too, that muscle mass does not come easily. For some, it takes years of proper eating and hard, consistent training. So if you’re not gaining weight, be patient and don’t get discouraged. Keep training hard and eating quality foods in sufficient quantities and the gains will come.”
TEXTBOOK ANSWERS LOL,,,NO TALK OF THE JUICE NEEDED
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Bob was an original schmoe
he would take young bodybuilders to his shitty basement in NY have them pose for him, supply them with muscle drugs
helped a lot of people move fwd in this retarded industry
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EATING FOR THE HARD GAINER BY JOE MEEKO
joe meeko bodybuilding diet
9. April 2020 by Mr.Berg
The following article was written by Mr. America Winner (1984) Joe Meeko in magazine S&H around 1980. – Mr. Berg
An average meal for me is as follows: My protein is consumed first because the digestion time for this food element is longer than that for carbohydrates. Therefore, I start with two-dozen egg whites, a pound or so of haddock, and about a pound of chicken breasts. Then I have my carbohydrates – a half-box of spaghetti, a bowl of rice, and a fruit salad consisting of two bananas, grapes, chunks of pineapple and apples.
Now get ready for what some people consider a shocker. With slight variations in some of the protein and carbohydrate sources, I repeated this meal about five times during the day.
So just 120 egg whites, 5lbs of haddock, 5lbs of chicken breast, 5 bowls of rice, 2 and a half boxes of spaghetti and 10 bananas... a day...
Seems legit.
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So just 120 egg whites, 5lbs of haddock, 5lbs of chicken breast, 5 bowls of rice, 2 and a half boxes of spaghetti and 10 bananas... a day...
Seems legit.
yeah great and say your drug free buying into this you will be smooth as a baby whale..or crap your brains out ..
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yeah great and say your drug free buying into this you will be smooth as a baby whale..or crap your brains out ..
Or crap a baby whale out...
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Bob was an original schmoe
he would take young bodybuilders to his shitty basement in NY have them pose for him, supply them with muscle drugs
helped a lot of people move fwd in this retarded industry
How do you know?
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How do you know?
Personally, I don't. But what's with these out-of-shape men who follow bodybuilding, but don't work out? My assumption is that they are homosexuals. I'm not passing judgment, but what else could it be?
Why would someone be so dedicated to the bodybuilding industry, who doesn't even train?
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He could have been gay but I spoke to him on 10 or more different occasions and he seemed normal.....just loved bodybuilding.
If he was gay, I know King,Dufresne,and Aceto were not, as I know them all personally for decades.
Personally I dont care much.
RIP
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He could have been gay but I spoke to him on 10 or more different occasions and he seemed normal.....just loved bodybuilding.
If he was gay, I know King,Dufresne,and Aceto were not, as I know them all personally for decades.
Personally I dont care much.
RIP
Good point. I'm not judging.
If he didn't take advantage of any young male bodybuilders seeking status in the industry, I see no harm. I've just noticed some people in the industry are huge followers, but appear to have no history of working out. It just makes me wonder why they are so interested in bodybuilding.
Do you still speak to Jeff King, wes? He seemed to be happy with family life in recent years.
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Never met him.
But my gaydar is off the scale with the guy.
I’ve been around this bodybuilding thing for decades. Guys like him are plentiful at shows. Always hanging around, greasy sweat staining their shirts, seven cameras hanging about their necks, not even a hint they themselves engage in weight training, hitting up every fresh-faced fella with pro-tan with business cards, scribbled contact info, and words of encouragement.
RIP
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Never met him.
But my gaydar is off the scale with the guy.
I’ve been around this bodybuilding thing for decades. Guys like him are plentiful at shows. Always hanging around, greasy sweat staining their shirts, seven cameras hanging about their necks, not even a hint they themselves engage in weight training, hitting up every fresh-faced fella with pro-tan with business cards, scribbled contact info, and words of encouragement.
RIP
I agree Rob,he did look the part but I have a tatoo on my ass that says "EXIT ONLY" !! :)
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wes said "how do you know"
wes, I dont know (or care) if bob was gay or not, not all schmoes are gay, some just enjoy this odd culture (most are gay though)
always heard he was a good man, but yes, he did have the drug contacts and he did help a lot of people
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wes said "how do you know"
wes, I dont know (or care) if bob was gay or not, not all schmoes are gay, some just enjoy this odd culture (most are gay though)
always heard he was a good man, but yes, he did have the drug contacts and he did help a lot of people
I agree,and I personally have met a lot of swarthy so called photographers in this sport who I jut told to fuck off if I got a bad vibe from them,if I got a good vibe I went on my merry way just the same..............basica lly placating them by taking their card then throwing it away.
I was never one for pics as I had a shitty build.
Bob was always cool with me i all I`m saying.................. .....as far as his personal life goes I have no clue just as he ha none about mine.
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;D http://musclememory.com/show.php?c=Teen+Mr+America+-+AAU&y=1977
I knew a bunch of those guy.
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Good point. I'm not judging.
If he didn't take advantage of any young male bodybuilders seeking status in the industry, I see no harm. I've just noticed some people in the industry are huge followers, but appear to have no history of working out. It just makes me wonder why they are so interested in bodybuilding.
Do you still speak to Jeff King, wes? He seemed to be happy with family life in recent years.
No I haven`t talked to Jeff in eons.
A mutual friend of ours kept in touch with him and told him I was sober and competing and doing well as the last few times he saw me I was on a drinking binge and not looking to well.
Our friend passed away in 2011.
Jeff works in the medical field in some capacity............also heard he ws a reserve state cop,he is an avid hunter and a taxidermist............s till resides in Masachusettes last I heard.
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Matt Dufresne let me train free at his gym in 1997 as I had just returned to Springfield from 4 years of living in Port St. Lucie Florida..............the home of Shizzo! :)
Called him up told him I was broke he said come train for free..............owned his own Golds Gym.
Took 2 busses both ways at 6 AM to train there in the winter.
Showed him a pic of me at 40 winning my class at the Southern States and he asked who trained me and did my diet.............I told him I did and that I wasn`t always an alcoholic as far as learning about bodybuilding went.................he was amazed at my conditioning.
Never asked me for a dime.......really good guy.
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No I haven`t talked to Jeff in eons.
A mutual friend of ours kept in touch with him and told him I was sober and competing and doing well as the last few times he saw me I was on a drinking binge and not looking to well.
Our friend passed away in 2011.
Jeff works in the medical field in some capacity............also heard he ws a reserve state cop,he is an avid hunter and a taxidermist............s till resides in Masachusettes last I heard.
Great post, wes. Thank you for that info.
I had no idea Jeff was a reserve state cop. Nice to hear it sounds like he is doing well.
I think all of Canada is on a drinking binge right now.
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wes said "how do you know"
wes, I dont know (or care) if bob was gay or not, not all schmoes are gay, some just enjoy this odd culture (most are gay though)
always heard he was a good man, but yes, he did have the drug contacts and he did help a lot of people
Haha! Matt, aren't you going to even pretend to be someone else? LOL ;D
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Haha! Matt, aren't you going to even pretend to be someone else? LOL ;D
i pretended i was you when i fucked your dad last time, master of disguise