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Title: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2020, 07:56:26 PM
Got screwed. People have written him off but I'm still rooting for him.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: AbrahamG on May 07, 2020, 08:20:14 PM
Got screwed. People have written him off but I'm still rooting for him.

Same here.  I've asked before but how can you possibly explain to a non fan that the guy on the left is Mr. Olympia and better than the guy on the right? 
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: gib on May 07, 2020, 09:47:07 PM
Ramy deserved to beat Phil in that contest.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: harmankardon1 on May 07, 2020, 11:06:46 PM
Agree ramy was the clear winner in 2017...

Another gift for the gift.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: harmankardon1 on May 07, 2020, 11:07:46 PM
Look at phils obliques.... What a fucking mess.

And the guy was as narrow as shit, I was never a fan of his look,
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 07, 2020, 11:18:11 PM
Look at phils obliques.... What a fucking mess.

And the guy was as narrow as shit, I was never a fan of his look,

To be fair, I think he looked great when he first came out and didn't have the gut and hernia.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/7f/e4/4c/7fe44cafc998191771931620044521b5--bodybuilding-motivation-bodybuilding-fitness.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/3c/2d/8a/3c2d8a37e20f77eae96764d47fee0c5c--phil-heath-mr-olympia.jpg)
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/9a/82/04/9a8204e72097f05d08af6dbb4df15c0c--phil-heath-fitness-bodybuilding.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: illuminati on May 08, 2020, 01:57:54 AM
Got screwed. People have written him off but I'm still rooting for him.

Another one of them Awful judging decisions
In them Pics it’s Not even Remotely Close - Ramy wins by a landslide 🙄
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Mr Anabolic on May 08, 2020, 03:15:19 AM
Everything seems to be rigged/manipulated these days. 
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: oldtimer1 on May 08, 2020, 05:09:23 AM
Just not a fan of current day bodybuilding. It seems like soft bloated muscle instead of dense hard muscle.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: affeman on May 08, 2020, 05:26:02 AM
Another one of them Awful judging decisions
In them Pics it’s Not even Remotely Close - Ramy wins by a landslide 🙄

Turn em' around and you know why Phil won. Different ballgame ::)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-Vs-Big-Ramy-Back-Double-Biceps.jpg)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-vs-Big-Ramy-Lat-Spread-Pose.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: lightweight83 on May 08, 2020, 05:28:29 AM
Phil had a couple good years early on, before he become the king of the bubble gut.  But Ramy destroyed him in a few contests. 
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Grape Ape on May 08, 2020, 10:28:08 AM
Turn em' around and you know why Phil won. Different ballgame ::)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-Vs-Big-Ramy-Back-Double-Biceps.jpg)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-vs-Big-Ramy-Lat-Spread-Pose.jpg)


LOL, circling Phil's back leg and Ramy's front in the second pic.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Darren Avey on May 08, 2020, 10:30:55 AM
He absolutely owned him in the double bi back shot
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: SOMEPARTS on May 08, 2020, 01:41:25 PM
Turn em' around and you know why Phil won. Different ballgame ::)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-Vs-Big-Ramy-Back-Double-Biceps.jpg)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-vs-Big-Ramy-Lat-Spread-Pose.jpg)



Ok, but from the front you'd just circle ALL of Ramy.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Skeletor on May 08, 2020, 01:46:29 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVD5dG0S/therealheath.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: robcguns on May 08, 2020, 01:51:20 PM
I like Phil’s build much better than ramys.being narrower his muscle looks more.ramy is so big and spread out.i like the so much muscle look that it looks awkward on him look over big and spread out.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Rambone on May 08, 2020, 03:40:31 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVD5dG0S/therealheath.jpg)

Phil needs to read this NY Times best seller

(https://www.bolerium.com/pictures/medium/81006.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2020, 04:17:31 PM
Turn em' around and you know why Phil won. Different ballgame ::)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-Vs-Big-Ramy-Back-Double-Biceps.jpg)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-vs-Big-Ramy-Lat-Spread-Pose.jpg)

Yes, Phil is better from the back but not to the degree that offsets how much Ramy crushes him from the front.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2020, 04:18:47 PM


Ok, but from the front you'd just circle ALL of Ramy.

LOL! EXACTLY!
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Methyl m1ke on May 08, 2020, 05:47:21 PM
Yes, Phil is better from the back but not to the degree that offsets how much Ramy crushes him from the front.

Ramy never cruahed Phil from the front.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: illuminati on May 08, 2020, 06:26:01 PM
Turn em' around and you know why Phil won. Different ballgame ::)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-Vs-Big-Ramy-Back-Double-Biceps.jpg)

(http://www.indianbodybuilding.co.in/Articles/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Phil-vs-Big-Ramy-Lat-Spread-Pose.jpg)


Fair point I’d edge Phil in the back -
Only from the front you’d have to just draw a circle ⭕️ around Ramy it Totally Night & day
Yet you didn’t bother circling the front for some reason 🙄🙄
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2020, 06:40:33 PM
Ramy never cruahed Phil from the front.

Well, it just goes to show how subjective bbing is. For most, it is blatantly obvious. I mean, just on gut alone, forget the narrow clavicles and thick obliques. But you can have your opinion and the judges agreed with you and that's ultimately what counts. Same case with Franco in 1981 and Jay vs Victor in 2007. The people saw it
differently.

These kinds of chasms between popular opinion and often politically motivated judging is doing bbing any favors.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: che on May 08, 2020, 06:53:36 PM
Yes, Phil is better from the back but not to the degree that offsets how much Ramy crushes him from the front.

It reminds me of


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZGaGMqSsctY/hqdefault.jpg)

(https://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/146/images/Nasser_El_Sonbaty_392.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2020, 06:55:24 PM
It reminds me of


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZGaGMqSsctY/hqdefault.jpg)

(https://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/146/images/Nasser_El_Sonbaty_392.jpg)

I'm a huge fan of Dorain but I was not "comfortable" with that victory.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Earl1972 on May 08, 2020, 08:05:02 PM
phil won fair and square

ramy might have looked better in 2 poses, that's it

phil was much harder and much more complete, this was an off phil but he was the clear winner

ramy is too soft and too unbalanced

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Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: illuminati on May 08, 2020, 08:14:56 PM
phil won fair and square

ramy might have looked better in 2 poses, that's it

phil was much harder and much more complete, this was an off phil but he was the clear winner

ramy is too soft and too unbalanced

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You’re correct Phil did win. Yes.
And the record will always show that.

From the pics Ramy overwhelms Phil from the front & Phil edges Ramy from the back.
Overall I’d of Voted for Ramy.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: G_Thang on May 08, 2020, 09:06:42 PM

LOL, circling Phil's back leg and Ramy's front in the second pic.

I just looked at the front.  His only advantage over Phil is his abs. you can't beat MrO with just abs. Ramy is nothing more than ruhl 2.0
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Earl1972 on May 08, 2020, 09:30:26 PM

You’re correct Phil did win. Yes.
And the record will always show that.

From the pics Ramy overwhelms Phil from the front & Phil edges Ramy from the back.
Overall I’d of Voted for Ramy.

you looked at 2 pics from the front, also 2 pics that don't show how much harder phil was than ramy

of course you voted for ramy, you have always been anti phil

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Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: illuminati on May 08, 2020, 09:43:57 PM
you looked at 2 pics from the front, also 2 pics that don't show how much harder phil was than ramy

of course you voted for ramy, you have always been anti phil

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Nope incorrect- Your wrong yet again
When Phil 1st came on the pro scene he had a good physique- needing some work on his
Back & Legs iirc - and he did the work & brought them up Very very well.
His 1st 2/3 wins he looked very good - only real fault his Narrowness & small pecs.
Once his Gut started expanding his physique went down (dan) hill.

Strange that you’ve only selected 2 pics to try illustrate your points.

As always- Opinions Vary.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 08, 2020, 11:59:26 PM
phil won fair and square

ramy might have looked better in 2 poses, that's it

phil was much harder and much more complete, this was an off phil but he was the clear winner

ramy is too soft and too unbalanced

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I can't believe anybody can look at Ramy's abs and look at Phil's and say Ramy is too soft. But, like I said, it's all subjective.

Jeeze man, too soft? Just look at the difference especially in the quads and hams.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ1MgE-XkAM_I4R.jpg)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2020, 12:01:07 AM
I just looked at the front.  His only advantage over Phil is his abs. you can't beat MrO with just abs. Ramy is nothing more than ruhl 2.0

Not the chest, width, and V taper?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=665580.0;attach=1172568;image)
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: G_Thang on May 09, 2020, 12:37:20 AM
Not the chest, width, and V taper?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=665580.0;attach=1172568;image)

one buy is flexed while the other is relaxed.  that's all i see.  i also see the relaxed guy has better arms, quads, lats, traps and delts for his frame.  flexed guy had better abs that day. did i miss something? 
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Methyl m1ke on May 09, 2020, 01:07:03 AM
It reminds me of


(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZGaGMqSsctY/hqdefault.jpg)

(https://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/146/images/Nasser_El_Sonbaty_392.jpg)

Ive gone back and forth over the years and my final verdict is that Nassers back was not so bad that Dorian deserved the victory. Nasser should have won. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2020, 01:10:08 AM
one buy is flexed while the other is relaxed.  that's all i see.  i also see the relaxed guy has better arms, quads, lats, traps and delts for his frame.  flexed guy had better abs that day. did i miss something?

I disagree. As does the majority here does. It's not an ab contest, sure, but there comes a point where it's so bad that it detracts for the whole physique. But I understand why you ignored the side chest shot.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pellius on May 09, 2020, 01:11:26 AM
Ive gone back and forth over the years and my final verdict is that Nassers back was not so bad that Dorian deserved the victory. Nasser should have won. Just my opinion.

Arnold, Mike Mentzer, and Dorian are my favorites bbers but I am, reluctantly, inclined to agree with you.
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: pamith on May 09, 2020, 09:27:29 AM
People just want Ramy to win because they are sick and tired of the sport being dominated by blacks, people want a white champion, the truth is Ramy was bigger but bodybuilding is NOT just about size, it's also about aesthetics, and Phil is way more aesthetic
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Jayel on May 09, 2020, 10:33:33 PM
Same here.  I've asked before but how can you possibly explain to a non fan that the guy on the left is Mr. Olympia and better than the guy on the right?

Ask Sweinberger  ::)
One of Ramy’s pecs is equal to the size of Phil’s entire chest
Title: Re: When Ramy destroyed Phil
Post by: Earl1972 on May 10, 2020, 07:58:35 PM
Nope incorrect- Your wrong yet again
When Phil 1st came on the pro scene he had a good physique- needing some work on his
Back & Legs iirc - and he did the work & brought them up Very very well.
His 1st 2/3 wins he looked very good - only real fault his Narrowness & small pecs.
Once his Gut started expanding his physique went down (dan) hill.

Strange that you’ve only selected 2 pics to try illustrate your points.

As always- Opinions Vary.

yes his gut expanded, so did every other pro especially the guys that won the olympia so what is your point?

i went with the 2 pics that were posted in this thread



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