the only thing that would be worse is football and basketball
many people including myself are fed up with their disrespect and even more angry that many of them plan to kneel for the flag, and this pandemic has helped many of us realize that we don't even miss or need these meaningless games
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It's a poor parallel. Deciding whether to let women join the military based on a utilitarian analysis does nothing to justify throwing a citizen's rights out the window and ejecting them from their home. And if you're dyed in the wool about better simply being better, then I'd point out that having sacrosanct notions, like a citizen's rights, is mo better since it affords us a stable society which isn't subject to the whims and preferences of whoever happens to be the Utility Tsar. And yes, a lot of black people are a pain in the butt. Go to their neighborhood and they'll certainly mean mug you. Quite possibly assault you. For no reason at all. A large percentage of blacks are as racist as you please and everyone seems content to pretend they're not. Still, you don't get to declare their US born citizenship invalid.
The ethnostate argument baffles me. I'm certainly honkier than thou, and far more than most. Still, 1" left of the chin sprouts a single, very suspect, thick, wiry, jet black hair. Just one. Something unpure transpired on some far distant field. Otherwise I'm about as anglo-ger-scandi as it gets, so if I struggle to squeak the white cut with that one whisker then most of you are in very deep shit if we go ethnostate.
If blacks cant make it in the US they cant make it anywhere.
Surely they are miles better off than their african relatives, most africans would love to trade places with them.
How can you go through everyday life and bitch about racism when your relatives in Africia die of malaria by the hundreds of thousands - yearly.
How can they whine about police brutality when in Africa nearly every nation had wars and genocide.
While Black Life Matters protest on the streets in the USA, meanwhile, this has been going on in their motherland:
21st century
2001–present War on Terrorism
1997–present Islamic Terrorism in Egypt
2002–present Islamic insurgency in the Maghreb
2002–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa
2006 Rise of the Islamic Courts Union
2006–2009 Ethiopian War in Somalia
2007–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara
2009–present Islamist civil war in Somalia
2009 Nigerian sectarian violence
2015–present ISIL insurgency in Tunisia
2017–present Islamist insurgency in Mozambique
2002-2003 Conflict in the Pool Department
2002–2004 First Ivorian Civil War
2003–present War in Darfur
2004 French–Ivorian clashes
2004–present Conflict in the guy Delta
2016–present guy Delta conflict
2004–2007 Central African Republic Bush War
2004–present Kivu conflict
2005–2010 Chadian Civil War
2005–2008 Mount Elgon insurgency
2006-2013 Bakassi conflict
2007–2009 Second Tuareg Rebellion
2007–2008 Kenyan crisis
2008 Invasion of Anjouan
2008 Kufra conflict
2008 Djiboutian–Eritrean border conflict
2009–present Sudanese nomadic conflicts
2011–present Ethnic violence in South Sudan
2013–present South Sudanese Civil War
2009 Sudan airstrikes
2009 Dongo conflict
2011 Second Ivorian Civil War
2011 First Libyan Civil War
2011–present Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile
2011-2014 Factional violence in Libya
2012–present Mali War
2012 Heglig Crisis
2012-2013 M23 rebellion
2012 Baragoi clashes
2012–present Central African Republic Civil War
2013–present Batwa–Luba clashes
2013-2019 RENAMO insurgency
2014 Aswan tribal clashes
2014–present Second Libyan Civil War
2016-2017 Pool War
2016 Kasese clashes
2016–present Kamwina Nsapu rebellion
2017–present Anglophone Crisis
But would have a weaker football and basketball team weaken the country as a world power and economic leader? Would our production and innovation in business, science, medicine, technology, and military might be effected one iota?
If blacks cant make it in the US they cant make it anywhere.
Surely they are miles better off than their african relatives, most africans would love to trade places with them.
How can you go through everyday life and bitch about racism when your relatives in Africia die of malaria by the hundreds of thousands - yearly.
How can they whine about police brutality when in Africa nearly every nation had wars and genocide.
While Black Life Matters protest on the streets in the USA, meanwhile, this has been going on in their motherland:
21st century
2001–present War on Terrorism
1997–present Islamic Terrorism in Egypt
2002–present Islamic insurgency in the Maghreb
2002–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Horn of Africa
2006 Rise of the Islamic Courts Union
2006–2009 Ethiopian War in Somalia
2007–present Operation Enduring Freedom - Trans Sahara
2009–present Islamist civil war in Somalia
2009 Nigerian sectarian violence
2015–present ISIL insurgency in Tunisia
2017–present Islamist insurgency in Mozambique
2002-2003 Conflict in the Pool Department
2002–2004 First Ivorian Civil War
2003–present War in Darfur
2004 French–Ivorian clashes
2004–present Conflict in the guy Delta
2016–present guy Delta conflict
2004–2007 Central African Republic Bush War
2004–present Kivu conflict
2005–2010 Chadian Civil War
2005–2008 Mount Elgon insurgency
2006-2013 Bakassi conflict
2007–2009 Second Tuareg Rebellion
2007–2008 Kenyan crisis
2008 Invasion of Anjouan
2008 Kufra conflict
2008 Djiboutian–Eritrean border conflict
2009–present Sudanese nomadic conflicts
2011–present Ethnic violence in South Sudan
2013–present South Sudanese Civil War
2009 Sudan airstrikes
2009 Dongo conflict
2011 Second Ivorian Civil War
2011 First Libyan Civil War
2011–present Sudanese conflict in South Kordofan and Blue Nile
2011-2014 Factional violence in Libya
2012–present Mali War
2012 Heglig Crisis
2012-2013 M23 rebellion
2012 Baragoi clashes
2012–present Central African Republic Civil War
2013–present Batwa–Luba clashes
2013-2019 RENAMO insurgency
2014 Aswan tribal clashes
2014–present Second Libyan Civil War
2016-2017 Pool War
2016 Kasese clashes
2016–present Kamwina Nsapu rebellion
2017–present Anglophone Crisis
I did answer the question in the final paragraph. I gave an example of a country that had done a lot for their minority population and I also explained why it's not possible to give a 1-1 comparison. For you to act like I'm dodging is ridiculous. The fact that it's a point of contention for you doesn't mean it has to be for me. Why would I find it remarkable or noteworthy that a government does things to benefit it's people? Obviously, that is not what happens across the board, but it is not an unusual thing and it's not something that is exclusive to blacks.
lol that was my point, we would lose nothing of value
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I've been rolling this around the old grey matter, as a white fellow is prone to do, and a solution is now at hand. Everyone keeps their rights and no one gets oppressed by another ethnicity. Best of all, you get to live amongst your own.
Sadly, I will have to accept not living in the penthouse of Zone 1 with the inbred redheads, but my grey-blue eyes will see me into a nice neighborhood. Really nice. It's nice in Zone 1, although the constant hit ups from Zone 2, 3, and 4 chicks is a little wearisome.
Matt C will need some time to adjust to his placement amongst the Slavs and Mediterraneans in Zones 14-18 or whatever olive shadiness he's got going on there, as will most of our Italian contingent who seem to believe they're somehow a member of the inner circles. I'm sure Pelius will find great contentment among his own people in Zone 32, the disused industrial park by the train tracks. This isn't to say there's no advancement on the basis of exceptional merit. A light skinned Indian or a wide eyed chinaman might advance as far as Zone 20 with the invention of a perpetual energy device or something.
On a personal note, I'd like to add that it's been real hoot interacting with you Outzone folk. I'm going to miss your quaint earthiness and novel linguistic shenanigans. Don't let anyone tell you you're anything short of utterly adorable.
This thread is a bit of a cuck move.
Pellius and al dogg go at it in another thread with walls of texts that no one was interested in reading. Now pellius makes another thread baiting al dogg and seeking input from others to validate himself.
Very weak bro. You might as well start wearing a dress and call yourself Philippa.
Pellius is right though.
What Zone is Henda in? Would love to visit!
Chest hair is a little dark. And plentiful. I gotta Zone 3 him.
He'll like it there. There's white chicks with dark hair like himself. Buxom. Good breeders. Hearty white stock. Nothing wrong with Zone 3.
I was once engaged in an argument about the necessity in having women in the military and even in combat. I propose the following thought experiment: If we had an all-male military would it's force be in any way reduced? Would we become a less effective fighting force without any women? What if we had an all-women military? Would it be stronger or weaker? Does having women in the military increase our effectiveness? This is not to say that there are no women that will add to the military but is it a necessity? That we can always find a man that will do just as good or better job than any woman? Is having women in the military just a social accommodation?These are all great rhetorical questions.
Now say we had an American society with absolutely no Black people at all. Would we be a better or worse nation? A stronger more prosperous country without Blacks or will it make no difference at all. Now conversely, what if we got rid of all the White people? That this country was run only by Blacks? Would this country be better or worse off or no difference at all?
I'd be curious how someone so brainwashed and dogmatic like Al Doggity would answer a question like this. Hint: he will, like all questions where the truth will incriminate him, not give a simple and direct answer but will hem and haw, dodge and redirect, and bring up strawman arguments and examples that really have no direct relationship to a very simple and direct question. What he will do, is not answer the simple and direct question with a simple and direct answer.
The idea of multiculturalism as a strength assumes that either all involved are equal, or that even the smaller group is somehow stronger in other areas. Even if that might be the case(and I could argue some cases that it would), that idea does not allow for people being unwilling to be a part of the society...as that vastly weakens the overall average contribution.
I don't disagree with you, except for the bolded part above. Just look at the Amish, the Orthodox Jews, and the Asians including Indians. They don't really integrate, but they are productive, don't mooch government assistance, keep to themselves, and don't bother anyone.But Negroes are part of society. The bottom part.
Note the language. It is "not possible" to give a 1-1 comparison. "Not possible?" Really? It's not possible for me to make a direct comparison of America to North Korea, Cuba, Communist China? For me to accuse him of dodging a question he refuses to directly answer is "ridiculous". Why should he "find it remarkable or noteworthy that a government does things to benefit it's people? "
Read that statement again. Just the height of ingratitude. People like him should spend a year in an African country or better yet be force to live there.
If blacks cant make it in the US they cant make it anywhere.
Surely they are miles better off than their african relatives, most africans would love to trade places with them.
How can you go through everyday life and bitch about racism when your relatives in Africia die of malaria by the hundreds of thousands - yearly.
How can they whine about police brutality when in Africa nearly every nation had wars and genocide.
While Black Life Matters protest on the streets in the USA, meanwhile, this has been going on in their motherland:
This thread is a bit of a cuck move.
Pellius and al dogg go at it in another thread with walls of texts that no one was interested in reading. Now pellius makes another thread baiting al dogg and seeking input from others to validate himself.
Very weak bro. You might as well start wearing a dress and call yourself Philippa.
I don't disagree with you, except for the bolded part above. Just look at the Amish, the Orthodox Jews, and the Asians including Indians. They don't really integrate, but they are productive, don't mooch government assistance, keep to themselves, and don't bother anyone.
I don't disagree with you, except for the bolded part above. Just look at the Amish, the Orthodox Jews, and the Asians including Indians. They don't really integrate, but they are productive, don't mooch government assistance, keep to themselves, and don't bother anyone.
I've been rolling this around the old grey matter, as a white fellow is prone to do, and a solution is now at hand. Everyone keeps their rights and no one gets oppressed by another ethnicity. Best of all, you get to live amongst your own.
Sadly, I will have to accept not living in the penthouse of Zone 1 with the inbred redheads, but my grey-blue eyes will see me into a nice neighborhood. Really nice. It's nice in Zone 1, although the constant hit ups from Zone 2, 3, and 4 chicks is a little wearisome.
Matt C will need some time to adjust to his placement amongst the Slavs and Mediterraneans in Zones 14-18 or whatever olive shadiness he's got going on there, as will most of our Italian contingent who seem to believe they're somehow a member of the inner circles. I'm sure Pelius will find great contentment among his own people in Zone 32, the disused industrial park by the train tracks. This isn't to say there's no advancement on the basis of exceptional merit. A light skinned Indian or a wide eyed chinaman might advance as far as Zone 20 with the invention of a perpetual energy device or something.
On a personal note, I'd like to add that it's been real hoot interacting with you Outzone folk. I'm going to miss your quaint earthiness and novel linguistic shenanigans. Don't let anyone tell you you're anything short of utterly adorable.
Why would American Blacks compare their day-to-day lives to African Blacks anymore than you would? They live in this country, were born in this country, most likely haven't been to Africa and don't know any of their African relatives. Why would they be thinking "at least things are better here than Africa" instead of "these are the circumstances in my life that I'm interested in improving".
Why would American Blacks compare their day-to-day lives to African Blacks anymore than you would? They live in this country, were born in this country, most likely haven't been to Africa and don't know any of their African relatives. Why would they be thinking "at least things are better here than Africa" instead of "these are the circumstances in my life that I'm interested in improving".
"The role and importance of Black people in American society"
One would expect a blank page and zero replies.
Because they call themselves african-americans.
They have the same opportunities as everyone else.
For those who don’t want to read the thread in its entirety:
LIf blacks never came to America and stayed in Africa, I'm sure the whites would have just gotten mexicans to do the same work.
Today, wipe out all blacks and seriously the results would be less murder, less crime, less poverty
Now is this their fault? Not at all. Blacks have been oppressed for a long long time so they had no choice of what happened.
This thread is a fine example of a narrow minded person trying to convince fellow narrow minded people that their narrow minded view is the only view possible. The good thing for narrow minded people (at least in their minds) is they can't understand what the hell it is to be anything else than narrow minded and therefore also can't really understand what it is that I'm writing here.
No, actually black slaves were an even better value because they were free, minus room and board. They were actually investment property in that you could sell them if times got hard, which is something you couldn't do with other employees no matter how cheap they were willing to work. And if a couple happened to have a baby, your investment property paid off dividends.
This immense free work force- not cheap work force, but virtually free work force- was the battery of this country's pre-industrial economy.
Not sure if you are waiting to drop the other shoe, but I agree with this (even the bolded, which I did lightly edit) and this is the point I tried to make to pellius that drove him to start this thread. If you were drawing up plans to create a permanent underclass, you would be hard pressed to come up with a blueprint more perfect than the US one related to black history.
He believes that the purpose of the civil war was to give blacks equal rights and that racism directed at blacks pretty much ended at that time. There has never been any suggestion that that's what the civil war was about, but if I point that out, it's me dodging. If I point out that there were still huge systemic challenges following the civil war, that's me being ungrateful and dwelling on the negative.
Not that long ago, I was listening to this podcast about an economic paper that was essentially about tracking innovation through patent law and social forces. (For the sake of brevity, I'll try to whittle it down to most relevant points) So, the way the paper tracked this was by looking at the number of blacks who filed patents during periods following the civil war and dominant social events happening at the time. So, the thing is there was a huge level of black participation in innovation happening in the period immediately following emancipation. But everytime there was major discriminatory legislation passed or major social upheaval that magnified blacks place on the social totem pole, there was a huge drop off in blacks filing for patents that didn't show up in the general population. One of the biggest tremors was the aftermath of the Black Wall Street Attack (which has been talked about here before, so I won't go into it.)
The point I was clearly trying to make with my earlier posts is that there were still massive hurdles that blacks had to overcome during reconstruction and afterwards. They were specifically designed to impede black progress and many were successful.
Every pre-industrial economy across the world.
You are viewing the past from a modern perspective instead of from the mentality of the people of that era.
Nothing to see here. This is just another Getbig racist thread with all the usual folks thoughtlessly acquiescing to each others unflappable, biased and stereotypical viewpoints. Yawn!
why isn't this on cnn?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBh1JOegzIc/
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and of course you chime in with your virtue signaling while you sit in the comfort of you white upper middle class neighborhood and reminding us all you are one of the few lucky white people to never have a negative experience with them
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prime what if this was your daughter?
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBinu1_g-L1/
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So? A lot of different American groups refer to themselves with hyphenates that include where their ancestors are from. Sometimes they don't even bother including the hyphen. But asian-americans and indian-americans and others don't base their quality of life decisions on how it would be if they were in India. They base them on the life they believe they are capable of having here.
No, I'm looking at how the past shaped the modern era.
Firstly, it was pretty common for other places to have a clear path to emancipation. It wasn't necessarily easy or applied to everyone or strictly enforced, but there was commonly a clear implied path. That was not true in America. With very few exceptions, if you were a slave, you were a slave for life.
Secondly, America was unique from what was common in other place in the fact that the slavery system was so race-based that virtually everyone in the country of a particular ethnicity was a slave.
Those differences have a huge impact on what came afterwards.
Blacks in the USA has it so hard.
Funny how the 3% of the worlds blacks are responsible for 100% of the whining and bitching.
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THEY GAVE YOU HIPHOP! BE GRATEFUL!
Wes Montgomery! He was and remains, The Man! As does our own Wes here on the forums.. ;D
Jazz. Real Jazz. That is the gift of black Americans to not just the USA but the world. I am forever grateful for the medium known as Jazz. And of course, the beautiful and divinely gifted vocalist Ella Fitzgerald. She along with Sinatra are my two all time favorite vocalists. That she was black makes not a bit of difference to me. She was beautiful in so many ways.
So there are just two of the real gifts of black Americans (no...I do not capitalize black or white unless they are at the beginning of a sentence or someone's surname).
cRap and hippity-hop are curses. Jazz and Ella are blessings.
It's become more and more apparent to generally decent people that you are a parasitic, predatory, and violent culture, and the only choice left to us is to separate and defend ourselves from your savage, angry people.
As I wistfully mused in my first post on this thread, just how so much better this country would be without people like you and your kind. Americans will gladly pay to set you up somewhere else where you can live free from the White devil. Your own land and your own country. You'll even get the mule promised so many generations ago. Now that's reparations that I can get behind.
No, I said that the War Between the States freed the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation was mentioned specifically and I also made clear that changes don't happen overnight and there has been a steady progression in the advancement of all minority rights. The claim that I said racism toward Blacks ended after the war is just a bald-faced lie.
We fought a war where over a million people died to give Blacks equal rights.The emancipation proclamation was "mentioned specifically" by another poster who was correcting you.
and of course you chime in with your virtue signaling while you sit in the comfort of you white upper middle class neighborhood and reminding us all you are one of the few lucky white people to never have a negative experience with them
this is what i want you to do
download the instagram app on your phone or computer, follow a page called "black_pilled" so you see plenty of short video examples of blacks being parasites among innocent white people
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This is what I want you to do; wise up. I haven't lived where I do my entire life nor am I confined to this neighbor or it's supposed culture.you chose to live in that neighborhood because you know better than to live among them
The emancipation proclamation was "mentioned specifically" by another poster who was correcting you.
As for the rest of that post? Tough titties? I don't know why you think what you're saying is anything new. People always says "it's too much, you'll never be satisfied, you're gonna cause everybody to turn on you" when there's systemic change. Always-whether it's race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. Whether it's now or a century and a half ago. I'm supposed to be worried that the turning point was some guy on the internet who had a largely one sided argument with himself and is exactly as angry as he was in the first post I responded to? (I'll just ignore the irony of the several posts you made claiming that opposition didn't matter because we won the civil war. By your own measures, I guess your post is irrelevant.)
"He believes that the purpose of the civil war was to give blacks equal rights and that racism directed at blacks pretty much ended at that time."
No, I said that the War Between the States freed the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation was mentioned specifically and I also made clear that changes don't happen overnight and there has been a steady progression in the advancement of all minority rights. The claim that I said racism toward Blacks ended after the war is just a bald-faced lie. But that's not surprising as you just hear what you want to hear and say what you want to say and everything that you say, hear, and do is through the prism of racism.
But I am truly overjoyed that you respond and freely express your thoughts and I hope you continue to do so. You are so clueless that you are a prime example of why we have this racial divide. You have no idea the negative effect that you have on decent people that want all people, including Blacks, to prosper and do well in life. Americans are mostly a decent and generous people, but when they hear someone like you, someone that represents a huge majority of Black people, they are sick of it. They are sick of being told how horrible and racist they are. How no matter what they do to improve the lives of Blacks they just get spit on the face and then are demanded to get on their knees and bow to Black people. They, we, are just not going to put up with it anymore. It's reaching a tipping point. People like you breed resentment and anger and do a huge disservice to the many decent Black people out there. It's become more and more apparent to generally decent people that you are a parasitic, predatory, and violent culture, and the only choice left to us is to separate and defend ourselves from your savage, angry people.
So keep talking. Keep feeling sorry for yourself and living a life obsessed with victimhood. Keep blaming others for your failures as you continue to inseminate women and take no responsibility for the children you sired leaving generation after generation of fatherless children. Continue to drink and take and sell drugs and commit crimes and acts of violence. Continue to slaughter each other and burn the cities that you live in that perpetuates the cycle of poverty and failure. You've pushed us to the point that we just don't care anymore save the ever-shrinking class consumed with White guilt who will write you a check as you burn down their businesses. Walmart will soon realize that 100 million dollars they donated to your "cause" was just money pissed away and did nothing but fatten the pocket of the race-baiters like Sharpton that pull your puppet strings.
Preach on. It's time you educated more people as to what you believe and where you are coming from so we can come closer to finally ending you and ending this cancer in our society.
As I wistfully mused in my first post on this thread, just how so much better this country would be without people like you and your kind. Americans will gladly pay to set you up somewhere else where you can live free from the White devil. Your own land and your own country. You'll even get the mule promised so many generations ago. Now that's reparations that I can get behind.
regardless of your beliefs , you sound like a very bitter man
no disrespect, but i'd hate to be you
live and let live
aint glancing at this shit no more
best to ya
Not really. I remember as the plane was taking off and I was moving back to Hawaii and looking out the window I reflected on some of the reasons I am so glad to be moving back home to Hawaii: get away from the "LA" environment and culture and not have to deal with Blacks anymore. My only resentment is what that toxic culture is doing to our country and how the Left enables them.Are there people in Hawaii marching for BLM? I live in a almost all white area and we have young liberal females marching with signs. ::)
you chose to live in that neighborhood because you know better than to live among them
you want me to wise up? you are proof that wisdom doesn't automatically come with age
you are white, bisexual, and successful
they would hate you the most, so you better "wise up"
and what did you think of the videos i posted? no comment says more than anything, is that the america you want the young members of your family to live in?
any white person that approves of BURN LOOT MURDER deserves what they get, but whites sensible enough to see it as terrorism should not have to suffer the same fate
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Are there people in Hawaii marching for BLM? I live in a almost all white area and we have young liberal females marching with signs. ::)
some of the wealthiest white suburbs that i live around had protests, even though they keep taxes high to keep them out ::)Agreed.
young female students are supposedly speaking to school administrators about adding diversity classes in their schools, the only non white kids in their school are asians and indians whose parents are doctors or own a number of convenient stores
we need to raise the voting age to at least 25 for men and not allow women under 40 to vote at all
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So am I to conclude that you live in a ghetto and are therefore more experienced in race relations?
Why would anyone choose to live in a neighborhood that is rife with criminal activity, has an inadequate educational system and low property values if they don't have to? You are right, I do choose to live where I do because of the amenities available. Luckily, I can afford to live here.
I have not watched the videos you. If I do, I will comment on them.
“White guilt” needs to be listed as a disease in the next edition of the Enyclopedia Britannica book setThat along with liberalism and Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Imagine a person that suffered from both TDS and ILSAnd ALS. And PMS.
Its at best meaningless and at worst depressing.Lol, is your racism showing now?
Why not just talk about sam cooke, serge nubret, eddie murphy, mike tyson, vince goodrum etc not all those other morons who never done anything and never will.
Just a suggestion. There's nearly 20 threads about blacks on the first page alone. I thinkt thats excessive.
Lol, is yourracismclarity showing now?
Its at best meaningless and at worst depressing.
Why not just talk about sam cooke, serge nubret, eddie murphy, mike tyson, vince goodrum etc not all those other morons who never done anything and never will.
Just a suggestion. There's nearly 20 threads about blacks on the first page alone. I thinkt thats excessive.
nope don't live in a ghetto, but i have two eyes and two ears and a brain
good to see you admit you don't want to live among blacks any more than the "racists" do
why haven't you watched them yet? they are all under a minute
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So? And there was no "correcting". It was still a lie to say I claim the War Between the States ended racism.
Tough titties? Me? LOL? "Tough titties you. I never claimed to say anything new. Just like you say the same tired old belly-aching and feeling sorry for yourself and how the White man controls your life and keeps you down. You're the bottom rung of society that people look down on and wish would just go away -- and for good reason. You are not just part of the problem. People like you are the problem.
To claim that I am the one that is angry and present a one-sided argument and I am the turning point just betrays your self-absorbed shallowness.That side of the argument I present is called the truth and I have dismissed all of your victim-based crying about how tough life is for "your people".
No one here agrees with you. The country doesn't agree with you.
Couple of pretty elevator examples for an acclaimed afficionado. I'm no pro but Trane, Miles, and Monk are a long way from those 'real jazz' crooners.
Sumahhhhthyme.... eazzzzayhhhhhh. Uh huh. Yep. It surely is.
Are there people in Hawaii marching for BLM? I live in a almost all white area and we have young liberal females marching with signs. ::)
LOL yeah in other threads, you've already established that even an exact quote from you presented in context doesn't count as proof of what you've said.
Your anger is evident in nearly every thread you post in, ones that have nothing to do with race, interactions that involve multiple other posters. Where are these alleged angry, victimized posts of mine? Nothing I've posted has been anything of the sort. My life is fine- beautiful family, great job, plenty of friends across races. I pointed out factual errors in what you said. Anything beyond that was conjured up by your own imagination.
You've said this in two different threads. I don't even have to tell you that even if that was that case, I couldn't care less. But, I'm sure you receive feedback to your posts in dms, so why do you think no one else does? In some cases, it would be cool if people shared their thoughts on the board instead of just dms, but I get why they might not and it's not something I would even judge. Just as you think it's great that my posts are driving people to your side, you and your ilk might be doing the same.
I find it rather ironic that Al Doggity continues to use Pellius' photo as his avatar. Is that being racist?!
I find it rather ironic that Al Doggity continues to use Pellius' photo as his avatar. Is that being racist?!
you chose to live in that neighborhood because you know better than to live among them
you want me to wise up? you are proof that wisdom doesn't automatically come with age
you are white, bisexual, and successful
they would hate you the most, so you better "wise up"
and what did you think of the videos i posted? no comment says more than anything, is that the america you want the young members of your family to live in?
any white person that approves of BURN LOOT MURDER deserves what they get, but whites sensible enough to see it as terrorism should not have to suffer the same fate
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Incidentally, in the 70's My wife and I bought and lived in a house in what was then Portland's "black neighborhood" so I do have a little experience living outside the white "bubble". There was some shit going on there, but there were also a lot of great people who were our neighbors and became our friends. Damn, wish I'd hung onto that place for a couple of decades because the neighborhood became gentrified and that house is worth a fortune today. Live and learn.
Wrong again.Still right.
No, the majority of your posts are preaching and bitching about the plight of the Black man. You've pointed out nothing but your narrow-minded bias.
And I'll keep saying it over and over again. There is no arbitrary limit to how many times the truth should be spoken.
And of course, you don't care. That's the problem. You are clueless and indifferent to how you stoke the flames of racism. Your level of narcissism and self-absorbed victimhood is abundantly apparent to everybody but you. You are only hurting yourselves but it's getting to the point where nobody cares anymore. You will complain about how more of you are in jail than in school. Or how you are disproportionately executed or serving life sentences. But more and more people are realizing that it is not because of racism it's because you deserve it. You brought it on yourself.
I find it rather ironic that Al Doggity continues to use Pellius' photo as his avatar. Is that being racist?!
Al Doggity has to settle for his own black face though.
How is that ironic?
??? Over the years on here, people who didn't know I was black assumed I was black based on the avatar. I could probably pass for white before he could.
You might be zoned in the 20s. We'll see.
Still right.
Sure when you reframe every conversation so that you attribute things to me that I didn't say and change the meaning of things you said, anything can mean anything. Your posts would more accurately be described as preaching and bitching. I don't have a narrow-minded bias. I am one of the most open-minded posters on this forum.
Yes, it's getting to the point..., more and more people..., things are right at the tipping point..., watch your back, blah blah blah. Like I said same song. But even if I pulled up the quote, I'm sure you never claimed anything new is happening. You lack the perspective to see you're proving the point I was making in the other thread. In spite of that, I won't be holding my breath worrying.
How is that ironic?
??? Over the years on here, people who didn't know I was black assumed I was black based on the avatar. I could probably pass for white before he could.
How is that ironic?
??? Over the years on here, people who didn't know I was black assumed I was black based on the avatar. I could probably pass for white before he could.
Still wrong.Righter than ever.
You just gave the board a huge laugh.
You really are so clueless and have any sense of self-awareness. But that's what happens when you've been brain washed since birth.
Talk about projecting. Now you're just getting sad.
And you will continue to worry. I've touched a nerve and it's eating away at you. I've made you realize that no matter how you cut it, you and your people, make our society a worse place. It's too bad for the many decent Black people out there and you disgrace and dishonor them. Your parasitic, violent culture destroys everything and everywhere that you infect with your presence. You think of that every day when you look at my picture.
Damn Prime, You were in Portland during the 70's? It must have been like Africa, oh wait -
Portland, Oregon 1970's population - 87 - 93 % white, 5.6 - 7.7% Black, 1.7 - 2% Spanish * .
(https://legacy.npr.org/news/graphics/2011/02/gr-portlandraces-300.gif).
(https://pics4.city-data.com/sgraphs/races/races-Portland-OR.png).
* See page 93 here - https://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0076/twps0076.pdf .
No way in hell. I never saw your picture and never heard any mention of your race and it was clear to me that you were Black.
As I said before, you are so clueless as to how you come across to people on this board.
Tell us again how you consider yourself the most open-minded person on this board.
Still wrong.
You just gave the board a huge laugh.
You really are so clueless and have any sense of self-awareness. But that's what happens when you've been brain washed since birth.
Talk about projecting. Now you're just getting sad.
And you will continue to worry. I've touched a nerve and it's eating away at you. I've made you realize that no matter how you cut it, you and your people, make our society a worse place. It's too bad for the many decent Black people out there and you disgrace and dishonor them. Your parasitic, violent culture destroys everything and everywhere that you infect with your presence. You think of that every day when you look at my picture.
Righter than ever.
Large factions on this board brag about not being open-minded. It's not even debatable. If we were in agreement, me not being as open-minded as I am would probably be considered a virtue.
Seriously, what would I be worrying about? Towns and cities with almost no black populations are having BLM protests, corporations are falling over themselves to donate to black causes and organizations, people who've posted racist comments are being fired and dropped from contracts, NASCAR of all organizations finally dropped the confederate flag, oscars is instituting some sort of diversity policy. I don't even necessarily think these are all the appropriate moves, but you think I'm somehow looking past all of that and, for some reason, your posts are at the front of my mind in regards to which direction this country is moving?
I guess you're using that as an insult, but for a good period of time there was controversy over whether or not I was actually black and people actually used the fact that they thought I wasn't black as an insult. So, once again, a swing and a miss.
Obviously, I was talking about physical appearance , though.
You are a ugly mofo but truth you speak and you command respect which I appreciate. Men like you are born leaders.
I wish I knew what this meant, but I fear I've been owned. :'(
Only in your mind. Nobody likes you here.Hmm. There might be a few who do :-\
It is debatable. But not to you due to your close-mindedness.I think you must be using some sort of elf definition of close-minded that has a different meaning.
Because you know that eventually, the pity party will end. Everyone will realize that there is nothing that can be done to appease you. Then no one will even try anymore and just separate and, if necessary, defend themselves against your toxic culture.
I don't mean it as an insult at all. It's just your skewed interpretation about everything that you see through the prism of your racism. It was just a statement of fact.
Hmm. There might be a few who do :-\
I think you must be using some sort of elf definition of close-minded that has a different meaning.
Sure, this is my response to posts from a guy who was irritated I corrected him on the internet.
Regardless, considering it was something so many people questioned, it's not really a statement of fact.
You can interpret that second sentence two ways- assuming your meaning is that I view everything through the prism of race and racism, put down the crack pipe.
Nah. Pelius got relegated all the way out in zone 32. But after all, what have the octaroons ever really done for American society?
That's horrific. How much money is a young woman's liberty worth these days? Can't even believe there's such a place. Where exactly is it located?
(https://ontheworldmap.com/libya/libya-location-on-the-africa-map.jpg)
(https://scontent.farn2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/104655273_1959592984174863_286555598228418498_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=ayf98_wru9EAX_z8uUF&_nc_ht=scontent.farn2-1.fna&oh=e0ccb2fc3f6420ac5114b82d306d1222&oe=5F13188E)I thought many American blacks wanted to go to Africa for a better life where there is no racism like in the evil United States? Where are the Wakandan warriors to save those girls?
What did Mike Tyson really bench press? I can't believe it was the 500lb claimedMaybe around 450 lbs
I'm sure there are some other Black militants here that live the life of self-pity victimhood.And? What are you saying, they don't matter? Hate to break it to you, but #AllLivesMatter.
You corrected nothing. Just made up a lie that I claimed slavery ended racism.You wrote it, not me.
You need to pay attention. I said a statement of fact as it pertained to me.No, because the statement you were responding to was that I could probably pass as white BEFORE you, not TO you. And in your response you said "how you come across to people on this board" and "tell us", meaning you felt you were speaking for other people. But I'm sure you'll figure out a way to explain how I'm twisting your words.
I found it ironic how you seemed to be almost proud that you would be thought of as sounding White. You should be. Sounding White means being somewhat articulate and you say the word "ask" not "axe".
Nice try -- NOT! I've never been drunk or high ever in my life nor have I even seen what crack or a crack pipe looks like in real life. I truly doubt you can truthfully say the same thing.
I thought many American blacks wanted to go to Africa for a better life where there is no racism like in the evil United States? Where are the Wakandan warriors to save those girls?
obama's son shopping at macy
No, These Are Not African Slaves At A Market In Libya (https://factcheck.afp.com/no-these-are-not-african-slaves-market-libya)Sure they are, they are just slaves for sex and not cotton pickers.
“A man at a store in #Flint allegedly referred to a black man in the store as a ‘n***er’ while talking on the #phone,” Nasheed said. Michigan police probing whether Macy’s beat down was possible assault
“A man at a store in #Flint allegedly referred to a black man in the store as a ‘n***er’ while talking on the #phone,” Nasheed said. Michigan police probing whether Macy’s beat down was possible assault
Same thing here:
Very Bad
https://twitter.com/SlinksNieuws/status/1273780302125715457 (https://twitter.com/SlinksNieuws/status/1273780302125715457)
Black infant allegedly referred to a black woman as a ‘n***er’, Nasheed said. Police probing whether beat down was possible assault
I watched the videos you've saved to your Instagram. Seeing them made me feel bad for you. Many people like myself save videos and photos of family and friends as well as those on topics which interest us. You are on a bodybuilding forum and yet where are your Instagram videos of bodybuilders or at least exercise routines?
I didn't need to watch your collection of racially charged videos to see what I see in the media everyday. At least in the media we are afforded various perspectives and not just those that confirm our foregone conclusions. Why are there no videos on your Instagram showing the hostile actions of other folks besides blacks? Here's why; your mind is as closed as a steel trap. You only want experiences that confirm what you already think.
At least on Getbig, you have a lot of company so you will likely never question what you believe because there is almost no one here who believes differently or if they do is willing to express this.
Incidentally, in the 70's My wife and I bought and lived in a house in what was then Portland's "black neighborhood" so I do have a little experience living outside the white "bubble". There was some shit going on there, but there were also a lot of great people who were our neighbors and became our friends. Damn, wish I'd hung onto that place for a couple of decades because the neighborhood became gentrified and that house is worth a fortune today. Live and learn.
I watched the videos you've saved to your Instagram. Seeing them made me feel bad for you. Many people like myself save videos and photos of family and friends as well as those on topics which interest us. You are on a bodybuilding forum and yet where are your Instagram videos of bodybuilders or at least exercise routines?
I didn't need to watch your collection of racially charged videos to see what I see in the media everyday. At least in the media we are afforded various perspectives and not just those that confirm our foregone conclusions. Why are there no videos on your Instagram showing the hostile actions of other folks besides blacks? Here's why; your mind is as closed as a steel trap. You only want experiences that confirm what you already think.
At least on Getbig, you have a lot of company so you will likely never question what you believe because there is almost no one here who believes differently or if they do is willing to express this.
Incidentally, in the 70's My wife and I bought and lived in a house in what was then Portland's "black neighborhood" so I do have a little experience living outside the white "bubble". There was some shit going on there, but there were also a lot of great people who were our neighbors and became our friends. Damn, wish I'd hung onto that place for a couple of decades because the neighborhood became gentrified and that house is worth a fortune today. Live and learn.
No IQ there whatsoever, what a psycopath
I thought many American blacks wanted to go to Africa for a better life where there is no racism like in the evil United States? Where are the Wakandan warriors to save those girls?
Damn Prime, You were in Portland during the 70's? It must have been like Africa, oh wait -
Portland, Oregon 1970's population - 87 - 93 % white, 5.6 - 7.7% Black, 1.7 - 2% Spanish * .
(https://legacy.npr.org/news/graphics/2011/02/gr-portlandraces-300.gif).
(https://pics4.city-data.com/sgraphs/races/races-Portland-OR.png).
* See page 93 here - https://www.census.gov/population/www/documentation/twps0076/twps0076.pdf .
(https://i.imgflip.com/45mpyb.jpg)
Good old Prime.
He just can’t figure out what point he’s trying to make.
Arguing about how experienced and cultured he is based on his diverse neighborhood from 45 years ago, no matter what the statistics say... and how that home could have made him a fortune because the neighborhood became gentrified....
I mean seriously you can’t make this up.
Men, whether young or old don't get pregnant and give birth 9 months later. You've claim to not be very smart. I'm beginning to believe you are right about that. ;)
If you can find any videos of blacks beating whites in the media please post them.
Where are all the BLM campaigns to save these black slaves in Africa?
???
So, you are a bigot and "transphobe"?
(https://i.redd.it/hnlop9n2opz31.jpg)
Transgender man in Portland gives birth to baby boy
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2017/08/transgender_man_gives_birth_to.html
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/170608104043-01-trans-man-pregnant-trnd-large-169.jpg)
OOPS! Where's the remaining $29,800,000+ they raised to bail us out of jail? ??? ??? ??? ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4g95Khh/Ea5fi-Xc-Wk-AAh3-T1.jpg) (https://i.postimg.cc/fLMvBRGr/Ea5fge-GXs-AAZCIw.jpg)
My point is simple. I make nothing up, I simply tell it as it is or was...otherwise known as the truth. There is no argument.
I'm not sure how relating that a neighborhood I once lived in later became gentrified has anything to do with my past experience living there. I mentioned it because it is ironic from an investment standpoint. My home today is much larger, newer and in a better school district yet that first home is probably worth more than the one I own now. Housing costs in the city of Portland are disproportionately expensive and out of reach for most people, regardless of their race.
No, These Are Not African Slaves At A Market In Libya (https://factcheck.afp.com/no-these-are-not-african-slaves-market-libya)
https://factcheck.afp.com/no-these-are-not-african-slaves-market-libya
'It Was As if We Weren’t Human.' Inside the Modern Slave Trade Trapping African Migrants
https://time.com/longform/african-slave-trade/
Were not the videos you posted on Instagram (which is social media) taken from the Internet on social media websites? The definition of media is; noun. a plural of medium. (usually used with a plural verb) the means of communication, as radio and television, newspapers, magazines, and the Internet, that reach or influence people widely:
Facebook, which is social media just removed some of Trump's campaign adds because they contained a Nazi symbol....an upside down triangle.
(https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/N3iMq9BFBMoqNtv2X3jo9CMKGP0=/1400x0/top/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/tronc/A2OUUD2OLZGNPAS2TZIAJMKG7Q.png)
I'll have to ignore these hate crimes because the corporate media, which is my only source for news, hasn't reported on them.
https://twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1274059176151363585 (https://twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1274059176151363585)
https://twitter.com/BaronStrucker/status/1273955133781671936 (https://twitter.com/BaronStrucker/status/1273955133781671936)
https://twitter.com/nicjohnson17/status/1273940895574917121 (https://twitter.com/nicjohnson17/status/1273940895574917121)
Jimmy Dore is a Bernie-voting liberal but he explains the corporate censorship of conservative AND liberal independent media very well.
People that follow corporate CNN, etc.. narratives are pure hate. Repulsive sickening bigoted filth, creepy perverted monsters. Fuck you.
While these twitter posts are horrendous to watch, they are hardly major news. You can't honestly expect corporate media to report on every fight that breaks out between what appears to be teenagers. And unless who ever took these videos sent them to mainstream media, how would they even know about them?
If in any of these three examples of juvenile "hate crimes" resulted in a serious injury or death, you can bet the media would be all over it. Imagine if the young fellow who had his skate board stolen by a couple of punks reported it to the police, what do you think the police would do about it? My guess is they'd do nothing. Post some newsworthy examples and you might have a point.
Prime I can’t help you.
Why is it ironic from an investment standpoint? You moved to an area where it was very cheap to live. You said you were one of the few white families in a black neighborhood, in a city that has a small amount of minorities. Then you said the value of the property shot up due to gentrification and you should have held on to the home.
Let me ask what point are you making? Or are you just stating facts?
Why do you argue the value of black lives when you live in a white community? Why are you not also standing up for Hong Kong and Chinese lives, or North Koreans? Those people suffer much worse atrocities than American criminals. And I refer to these men as American criminals because that is what they are regardless of color.
And no they should not have been killed because they are innocent until proven guilty. But we should also use the same standard on the police officers who are making decisions under extreme duress.
The results of 'black leadership' speaks for itself, just look at Africa and Haiti.
Oh, and I guess the 'black lives matter' movement means something to some people in my "lily white' town because they are peacefully protesting in small groups at the roadsides in West Linn. Interestingly enough, I have yet to see an African American among them....but then African Americans make up only 1.79% of the population in this town.
Just to be clear, I wasn't expecting your help. Why would I?
I bought, fixed up and sold several homes for a profit, which I reinvested in the next property thus moving up in value each time. As a result, I live in a beautiful home that I wouldn't have otherwise been able to afford to buy. The irony is, had I stayed put, I'd be living in a nice place, although smaller and lesser in every way except price and proximity to downtown Portland. This is an observation and a fact. It is not a complaint. If I were starting over I would not change anything. I enjoy where I live and it definitely suits my needs. Maybe this is why I've stayed here for 22 years.
One again, I am not arguing anything. I do have an opinion though. It is that people, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, age, occupation (including the police) or religion should all be treated equally. Despite what anyone thinks or the media reports, I believe all criminal suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Unfortunately, this is not true everywhere in the world. It is definitely not the how a lot of folks on Getbig think judging by their posts, which often show extreme prejudice.
Oh, and I guess the 'black lives matter' movement means something to some people in my "lily white' town because they are peacefully protesting in small groups at the roadsides in West Linn. Interestingly enough, I have yet to see an African American among them....but then African Americans make up only 1.79% of the population in this town.
Echoing Joe Friday's famous business-like catch phrase, “Just the facts, ma'am.” :)
OOPS! Where's the remaining $29,800,000+ they raised to bail us out of jail? ??? ??? ??? ???
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4g95Khh/Ea5fi-Xc-Wk-AAh3-T1.jpg)
Epitome of Jewish Nose there! :Dgod's chosen schnoz
Just to be clear, I wasn't expecting your help. Why would I?
I bought, fixed up and sold several homes for a profit, which I reinvested in the next property thus moving up in value each time. As a result, I live in a beautiful home that I wouldn't have otherwise been able to afford to buy. The irony is, had I stayed put, I'd be living in a nice place, although smaller and lesser in every way except price and proximity to downtown Portland. This is an observation and a fact. It is not a complaint. If I were starting over I would not change anything. I enjoy where I live and it definitely suits my needs. Maybe this is why I've stayed here for 22 years.
One again, I am not arguing anything. I do have an opinion though. It is that people, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, age, occupation (including the police) or religion should all be treated equally. Despite what anyone thinks or the media reports, I believe all criminal suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Unfortunately, this is not true everywhere in the world. It is definitely not the how a lot of folks on Getbig think judging by their posts, which often show extreme prejudice.
Oh, and I guess the 'black lives matter' movement means something to some people in my "lily white' town because they are peacefully protesting in small groups at the roadsides in West Linn. Interestingly enough, I have yet to see an African American among them....but then African Americans make up only 1.79% of the population in this town.
Echoing Joe Friday's famous business-like catch phrase, “Just the facts, ma'am.” :)
What exactly are they protesting about?
The policemen responsible for the killing will end up in jail for life or a very long time, the police and government obviously does not condone their behaviour.
I want "reparations" for something that happened in 275 AD!
I want "reparations" for something that happened in 275 AD!
I want "reparations" for something that happened in 275 AD!
Bi!ch, you don't even live in American't.
Bi!ch, you don't even live in American't.That's nationalism!
What is this?
https://twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1274406293617299456 (https://twitter.com/BubetteS/status/1274406293617299456)
Bi!ch, you don't even live in American't.your home is Africa ne@ro
the same where i live, the whitest towns are having protests
they should move to diverse areas if they want diversity so much, otherwise shut the fuck up
one nice white school district in my area borders a horrible black school district, there has been talk of merging the schools for years but the white school district wants no part of it, yet they still had their protests ::)
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I'm looking for around 60 B.C.
Maybe we can join up.
I should post a photo of this interesting phenomena, A few blocks away from me, there is one completely residential street that is about three blocks long and is also dead ended that only gets a small amount of local traffic, mainly just folks who live there and yet about a third of the houses have 'black lives matter' signs posted in front. Only one house has an 'all lives matter' sign. I'm fairly confident that most of the folks living there are white.
Leptoptilos robustus is seeking reparations against Homo floresiensis for their late-Pleistocene role in the Giant Stork Massacre at Komodo Ridge. >:( >:( >:(
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFb6FD47/homo-floresiensis-giant-fauna.jpg)
And? What are you saying, they don't matter? Hate to break it to you, but #AllLivesMatter.
You wrote it, not me.
No, because the statement you were responding to was that I could probably pass as white BEFORE you, not TO you. And in your response you said "how you come across to people on this board" and "tell us", meaning you felt you were speaking for other people. But I'm sure you'll figure out a way to explain how I'm twisting your words.
No, it wasn't any particular point of pride. Pretty much all of the black posters here that I can think of express themselves well and there are plenty of white posters who can barely string a sentence together. It had more to do with you clearly attempting to use a race-based insult that was demonstrably false. (And we can confirm that it was shaping up to be an attempt at an insult because despite you saying it wasn't meant as an insult, you stayed absolutely true to form and contradicted that in the very next post.) To a lesser extent, it was a response to your claim that all of my posts are filtered by racism.
You have a real issue with picking up on sarcasm. As for the second part of that statement, it would just be another thing you were wrong about:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=647323.msg9083512#msg9083512
But it doesn't matter... just keep repeating it and after enough times Kwon will eventually fly out and try to suck you off.
Epitome of Jewish Nose there! :D
Leptoptilos robustus is seeking reparations against Homo floresiensis for their late-Pleistocene role in the Giant Stork Massacre at Komodo Ridge. >:( >:( >:(
(https://i.postimg.cc/NFb6FD47/homo-floresiensis-giant-fauna.jpg)
I should post a photo of this interesting phenomena, A few blocks away from me, there is one completely residential street that is about three blocks long and is also dead ended that only gets a small amount of local traffic, mainly just folks who live there and yet about a third of the houses have 'black lives matter' signs posted in front. Only one house has an 'all lives matter' sign. I'm fairly confident that most of the folks living there are white.