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Trump has long been fixated on his predecessor. Since May 1, as his presidential campaign against former Vice President Joe Biden has heated up, Trump has made at least 12 separate false claims about Obama and his record in office.
Trump added a new one Tuesday in a speech about police reform, declaring that Obama and Biden "never even tried" to fix problems in policing. That's not even close to true.
Here's the list of 12 separate false claims.
1) Obama didn't try on police reform
Trump touted his own efforts to address policing problems, then said, "President Obama and Vice President Biden never even tried to fix this during their eight-year period. The reason they didn't try is because they had no idea how to do it."
Facts First: Obama and his administration took multiple significant steps to try to improve policing. Trump's claim is "absolutely wrong," Samuel Walker, an expert on policing policy and a professor emeritus of criminal justice at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said Tuesday.
Obama's Department of Justice initiated "pattern-or-practice" investigations into troubled police departments and secured court-enforceable consent decrees or other agreements in which cities including Baltimore, Cleveland, Portland and Miami formally agreed to make changes.
In the last month of Obama's presidency, the Department of Justice reported that "since 2009, the Civil Rights Division has opened 25 investigations into law enforcement agencies and is currently enforcing 19 agreements, including 14 consent decrees and one post-judgment order."
In 2014, after the unrest that followed the killing of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, Obama launched the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing, which in 2015 put forward dozens of recommendations for improvement. The administration provided grants to some departments that were implementing the recommendations.
In 2015, following criticism of the police use of military equipment during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Obama placed new conditions on, though did not stop, the transfer of surplus military supplies to police. He also in 2015 secured federal funding for some police departments to buy body cameras. The same year, he launched an initiative to encourage police officers to make more data publicly available, including data on the use of force.
The Trump administration has curtailed the use of pattern-or-practice probes and consent decrees and lifted Obama's restrictions on the transfer of military equipment.
2) Obama didn't try on criminal justice reform
Trump claimed: "I did Criminal Justice Reform, something Obama & Biden didn't even try to do - & couldn't do even if they did try."
Facts First: The Obama administration did try to get a criminal justice reform bill passed; a bipartisan bill failed in the Senate during the 2016 presidential election, when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell decided not to bring it up for a vote.
The Obama administration nonetheless took its own reform steps that did not require Republican approval, such as banning the use of solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons, working with state and local governments to reduce pre-trial incarceration and the incarceration of people with mental illnesses, and instructing federal prosecutors to try to avoid triggering mandatory minimum sentences for certain non-violent drug offenders.
3) Obama didn't start the effort to end HIV/AIDS
Trump claimed that the Obama administration "should have started" the effort to eradicate HIV/AIDS in the US, but "they did nothing."
Facts First: The Obama administration spent billions on anti-HIV/AIDS efforts, both domestically and globally.
4) Trump was the one who got Veterans Choice passed
Trump claimed that "I got Choice" for veterans after others had tried "for 50 years" to create this health care program.
Facts First: Obama signed the Veterans Choice bill into law in 2014; it was a bipartisan initiative led by Sen. Bernie Sanders and the late Sen. John McCain. In 2018, Trump signed the VA Mission Act, which expanded and changed the Choice program.
This is one of Trump's most-repeated false claims. By our count, he made it 59 times between June 8, 2019 and June 7, 2020 alone.
5) The Obama administration left Trump faulty coronavirus tests
Trump claimed that the Obama administration left him "broken" coronavirus tests.
Facts First: The faulty initial test for the coronavirus was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since this is a new virus that was first identified during Trump's presidency, tests couldn't possibly have been inherited as "broken" or "obsolete."
6) The Obama administration didn't leave Trump any ventilators
Trump claimed that his administration "inherited nothing" from the Obama administration in terms of medical supplies -- and that "when we started, we didn't have ventilators."
Facts First: While the exact number of ventilators in the national stockpile at the time of Trump's inauguration in 2017 is not known, Richard Branson, a professor at the University of Cincinnati's medical school and editor of the medical journal Respiratory Care, says thousands of ventilators were purchased for the stockpile during the Obama administration and were not used before Trump took office. In addition, journalists personally saw ventilators in the stockpile when they visited facilities in 2016, as FactCheck.org has noted. While the stockpile did have depleted stocks of some supplies like masks, there were significant stores of other items.
7) The Obama administration left the military with no ammunition
Trump claimed that the military had "no ammunition" when he took office.
Facts First: This is a significant exaggeration. According to military leaders, there was a shortfall in certain kinds of munitions, particularly precision-guided bombs, late in the Obama presidency and early in the Trump presidency. But the claim that there was "no ammunition" is not true; military leaders did not say, at least publicly, that they had completely run out of any kind of bomb, let alone ammunition in general.
8) The Obama administration left NASA dead
Trump said "the space program was over" before he took office and that NASA was dead: "What we've done with NASA is amazing. We've brought it back from the dead. It was not essentially functioning, and now it's one of the great centers in the world."
Facts First: Trump is entitled to criticize Obama's handling of NASA, but it's a clear exaggeration to say NASA was "dead" or that the space program was "over." The launch Trump attended in June, in which NASA astronauts were aboard a private company's spacecraft, was the product of a commercial crew program created under Obama.
"It is NOT correct that NASA was dead under the Obama administration," said John Logsdon, the founder of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, where he is a professor emeritus, and a former member of the NASA Advisory Council; "much was started, like the commercial crew program."
9) The Obama administration said manufacturing was gone from the US
Trump said: "The previous administration said, 'Manufacturing, we're not doing that. It's gone from this country.' They were wrong."
Facts First: The Obama administration never said it was "not doing" manufacturing. Trump appeared to be referring to a remark Obama made at a PBS town hall in 2016 -- but he was inaccurately describing what Obama said.
Obama scoffed at Trump's campaign promises to bring back what Obama called "jobs of the past" without providing specifics on how he would do so. Contrary to Trump's repeated claim, though, Obama didn't say manufacturing was dead or gone; Obama boasted of how many manufacturing jobs were being created during his presidency, saying, "We actually make more stuff, have a bigger manufacturing base today than we've had in most of our history."
10) Obama wiretapped Trump
Trump claimed that his 2017 tweets alleging that Obama had wiretapped him in Trump Tower had been proven correct: "Remember how you thought that was such a terrible tweet, right? I was right."
Facts First: Trump was not right. There is still no evidence that Trump was wiretapped, let alone that Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump. The Justice Department said in a 2017 court filing that there are no records related to wiretaps like the ones Trump described. Then-FBI Director James Comey told Congress in 2017 that "we have no information to support those tweets."
Paul Manafort, who served as Trump's campaign chairman, was wiretapped before and after the election, CNN has reported, and Manafort had a residence in Trump Tower. But a wiretap of someone living in Trump's apartment building is not the same as a wiretap of Trump himself.
11) Obamacare ended competition among health insurers
Announcing an effort to lower insulin costs for people enrolled in Medicare, Trump said: "In the past, Obamacare prevented insurance providers from competing to offer lower costs for seniors. There was no competition, there was no anything, and they ran away with what took place, and the seniors were horribly hurt."
Facts First: It's not true that there was no price competition among insurers because of Obamacare.
"Obamacare actually didn't affect competition in the market for prescription drug coverage. There were reductions in the number of drug plans available during the Obama administration in an effort to root out needlessly duplicative plan offerings, but seniors have consistently had dozens of plan options over the years," said Juliette Cubanski, deputy director of the Medicare policy program at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
12) Obama got poor poll results on his handling of H1N1
Trump suggested that his response to the coronavirus has polled better than Obama's response to the H1N1 pandemic of 2009: "We are getting great marks for the handling of the CoronaVirus pandemic...Compare that to the Obama/Sleepy Joe disaster known as H1N1 Swine Flu. Poor marks, bad polls - didn't have a clue!"
Facts First: Contrary to Trump's strong suggestion here, Obama got higher ratings in polls on his handling of the H1N1 pandemic than Trump has gotten in polls on his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
As of May 10, the date of this Trump tweet, FiveThirtyEight's aggregate of polls found that Trump had a 43.5% approval rating on his handling of the coronavirus. A Gallup poll conducted in April 2009, the month of the first confirmed H1N1 cases in the US, found that 66% approved of how the Obama administration was handling the situation. In a CNN poll conducted in late October and early November 2009, 57% approved of Obama's handling of the response.
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lol what a load of rubbish, most of those are not even what Trump blames the gay muslim for.
Fake news strikes again.
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Just let out of prison by Deblasio ?
Trump has long been fixated on his predecessor. Since May 1, as his presidential campaign against former Vice President Joe Biden has heated up, Trump has made at least 12 separate false claims about Obama and his record in office.
Trump added a new one Tuesday in a speech about police reform, declaring that Obama and Biden "never even tried" to fix problems in policing. That's not even close to true.
Here's the list of 12 separate false claims.
1) Obama didn't try on police reform
Trump touted his own efforts to address policing problems, then said, "President Obama and Vice President Biden never even tried to fix this during their eight-year period. The reason they didn't try is because they had no idea how to do it."
Facts First: Obama and his administration took multiple significant steps to try to improve policing. Trump's claim is "absolutely wrong," Samuel Walker, an expert on policing policy and a professor emeritus of criminal justice at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said Tuesday.
Obama's Department of Justice initiated "pattern-or-practice" investigations into troubled police departments and secured court-enforceable consent decrees or other agreements in which cities including Baltimore, Cleveland, Portland and Miami formally agreed to make changes.
In the last month of Obama's presidency, the Department of Justice reported that "since 2009, the Civil Rights Division has opened 25 investigations into law enforcement agencies and is currently enforcing 19 agreements, including 14 consent decrees and one post-judgment order."
In 2014, after the unrest that followed the killing of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, Obama launched the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing, which in 2015 put forward dozens of recommendations for improvement. The administration provided grants to some departments that were implementing the recommendations.
In 2015, following criticism of the police use of military equipment during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Obama placed new conditions on, though did not stop, the transfer of surplus military supplies to police. He also in 2015 secured federal funding for some police departments to buy body cameras. The same year, he launched an initiative to encourage police officers to make more data publicly available, including data on the use of force.
The Trump administration has curtailed the use of pattern-or-practice probes and consent decrees and lifted Obama's restrictions on the transfer of military equipment.
2) Obama didn't try on criminal justice reform
Trump claimed: "I did Criminal Justice Reform, something Obama & Biden didn't even try to do - & couldn't do even if they did try."
Facts First: The Obama administration did try to get a criminal justice reform bill passed; a bipartisan bill failed in the Senate during the 2016 presidential election, when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell decided not to bring it up for a vote.
The Obama administration nonetheless took its own reform steps that did not require Republican approval, such as banning the use of solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons, working with state and local governments to reduce pre-trial incarceration and the incarceration of people with mental illnesses, and instructing federal prosecutors to try to avoid triggering mandatory minimum sentences for certain non-violent drug offenders.
3) Obama didn't start the effort to end HIV/AIDS
Trump claimed that the Obama administration "should have started" the effort to eradicate HIV/AIDS in the US, but "they did nothing."
Facts First: The Obama administration spent billions on anti-HIV/AIDS efforts, both domestically and globally.
4) Trump was the one who got Veterans Choice passed
Trump claimed that "I got Choice" for veterans after others had tried "for 50 years" to create this health care program.
Facts First: Obama signed the Veterans Choice bill into law in 2014; it was a bipartisan initiative led by Sen. Bernie Sanders and the late Sen. John McCain. In 2018, Trump signed the VA Mission Act, which expanded and changed the Choice program.
This is one of Trump's most-repeated false claims. By our count, he made it 59 times between June 8, 2019 and June 7, 2020 alone.
5) The Obama administration left Trump faulty coronavirus tests
Trump claimed that the Obama administration left him "broken" coronavirus tests.
Facts First: The faulty initial test for the coronavirus was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since this is a new virus that was first identified during Trump's presidency, tests couldn't possibly have been inherited as "broken" or "obsolete."
6) The Obama administration didn't leave Trump any ventilators
Trump claimed that his administration "inherited nothing" from the Obama administration in terms of medical supplies -- and that "when we started, we didn't have ventilators."
Facts First: While the exact number of ventilators in the national stockpile at the time of Trump's inauguration in 2017 is not known, Richard Branson, a professor at the University of Cincinnati's medical school and editor of the medical journal Respiratory Care, says thousands of ventilators were purchased for the stockpile during the Obama administration and were not used before Trump took office. In addition, journalists personally saw ventilators in the stockpile when they visited facilities in 2016, as FactCheck.org has noted. While the stockpile did have depleted stocks of some supplies like masks, there were significant stores of other items.
7) The Obama administration left the military with no ammunition
Trump claimed that the military had "no ammunition" when he took office.
Facts First: This is a significant exaggeration. According to military leaders, there was a shortfall in certain kinds of munitions, particularly precision-guided bombs, late in the Obama presidency and early in the Trump presidency. But the claim that there was "no ammunition" is not true; military leaders did not say, at least publicly, that they had completely run out of any kind of bomb, let alone ammunition in general.
8) The Obama administration left NASA dead
Trump said "the space program was over" before he took office and that NASA was dead: "What we've done with NASA is amazing. We've brought it back from the dead. It was not essentially functioning, and now it's one of the great centers in the world."
Facts First: Trump is entitled to criticize Obama's handling of NASA, but it's a clear exaggeration to say NASA was "dead" or that the space program was "over." The launch Trump attended in June, in which NASA astronauts were aboard a private company's spacecraft, was the product of a commercial crew program created under Obama.
"It is NOT correct that NASA was dead under the Obama administration," said John Logsdon, the founder of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, where he is a professor emeritus, and a former member of the NASA Advisory Council; "much was started, like the commercial crew program."
9) The Obama administration said manufacturing was gone from the US
Trump said: "The previous administration said, 'Manufacturing, we're not doing that. It's gone from this country.' They were wrong."
Facts First: The Obama administration never said it was "not doing" manufacturing. Trump appeared to be referring to a remark Obama made at a PBS town hall in 2016 -- but he was inaccurately describing what Obama said.
Obama scoffed at Trump's campaign promises to bring back what Obama called "jobs of the past" without providing specifics on how he would do so. Contrary to Trump's repeated claim, though, Obama didn't say manufacturing was dead or gone; Obama boasted of how many manufacturing jobs were being created during his presidency, saying, "We actually make more stuff, have a bigger manufacturing base today than we've had in most of our history."
10) Obama wiretapped Trump
Trump claimed that his 2017 tweets alleging that Obama had wiretapped him in Trump Tower had been proven correct: "Remember how you thought that was such a terrible tweet, right? I was right."
Facts First: Trump was not right. There is still no evidence that Trump was wiretapped, let alone that Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump. The Justice Department said in a 2017 court filing that there are no records related to wiretaps like the ones Trump described. Then-FBI Director James Comey told Congress in 2017 that "we have no information to support those tweets."
Paul Manafort, who served as Trump's campaign chairman, was wiretapped before and after the election, CNN has reported, and Manafort had a residence in Trump Tower. But a wiretap of someone living in Trump's apartment building is not the same as a wiretap of Trump himself.
11) Obamacare ended competition among health insurers
Announcing an effort to lower insulin costs for people enrolled in Medicare, Trump said: "In the past, Obamacare prevented insurance providers from competing to offer lower costs for seniors. There was no competition, there was no anything, and they ran away with what took place, and the seniors were horribly hurt."
Facts First: It's not true that there was no price competition among insurers because of Obamacare.
"Obamacare actually didn't affect competition in the market for prescription drug coverage. There were reductions in the number of drug plans available during the Obama administration in an effort to root out needlessly duplicative plan offerings, but seniors have consistently had dozens of plan options over the years," said Juliette Cubanski, deputy director of the Medicare policy program at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
12) Obama got poor poll results on his handling of H1N1
Trump suggested that his response to the coronavirus has polled better than Obama's response to the H1N1 pandemic of 2009: "We are getting great marks for the handling of the CoronaVirus pandemic...Compare that to the Obama/Sleepy Joe disaster known as H1N1 Swine Flu. Poor marks, bad polls - didn't have a clue!"
Facts First: Contrary to Trump's strong suggestion here, Obama got higher ratings in polls on his handling of the H1N1 pandemic than Trump has gotten in polls on his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
As of May 10, the date of this Trump tweet, FiveThirtyEight's aggregate of polls found that Trump had a 43.5% approval rating on his handling of the coronavirus. A Gallup poll conducted in April 2009, the month of the first confirmed H1N1 cases in the US, found that 66% approved of how the Obama administration was handling the situation. In a CNN poll conducted in late October and early November 2009, 57% approved of Obama's handling of the response.
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Glad you’re back posting. Hopefully all is well.
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lol what a load of rubbish, most of those are not even what Trump blames the gay muslim for.
Fake news strikes again.
Claiming "fake news" is just the new way that you guys allow yourselves to put your heads in the sand and not have to think. For you guys, mindlessness is bliss.
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Glad you’re back posting. Hopefully all is well.
Much appreciated! Good to see you again!
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Just let out of prison by Deblasio ?
I guess you just don't care about 117,000 people dead due to Trump's incompetence.
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I guess you just don't care about 117,000 people dead due to Trump's incompetence.
Trump killed them?
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Which democrat rag did you you cut and paste that list from?
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Glad you’re back posting. Hopefully all is well.
Great sarcasm.
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Trump killed them?
Basically, yes!...by not acting fast enough and doing very little when he did act... He's advocated for opening up the economy and that's been a complete disaster...cases are riding and the pace of deaths is actually accelerating...and now he's going to hold a rally where even more people are going to be affected...you guys just don't get it, that TRUMP DOESN'T GIVE A HELL ABOUT YOU OR ME
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Which democrat rag did you you cut and paste that list from?
It's a fact. Something you ball-lickers wouldn't know anything about
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It's a fact. Something you ball-lickers wouldn't know anything about
Sure it is, at least you Obama ball lickers believe so.
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It's a fact. Something you ball-lickers wouldn't know anything about
facts ? hilarious ::) fact is you are a gullible fool
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If you like your insurance you can keep it
If you like your dr you can keep him
Insurance costs will go down an average of 2500 dollars
Who said that?
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If you like your insurance you can keep it
If you like your dr you can keep him
Insurance costs will go down an average of 2500 dollars
Who said that?
President Obama said these things and all three were and remain essentially true.
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President Obama said these things and all three were and remain essentially true.
Agreed...the ball-lickers constantly point to those statements and try to characterize them as lies....THEY WERE CAMPAIGN PROMISES....which ALL politicians do...and Yes, as Abraham says, they are all essentially true.....however Trump has told THOUSANDS of lies and the ball-lickers are SILENT
STRANGE.........
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Agreed...the ball-lickers constantly point to those statements and try to characterize them as lies....THEY WERE CAMPAIGN PROMISES....which ALL politicians do...and Yes, as Abraham says, they are all essentially true.....however Trump has told THOUSANDS of lies and the ball-lickers are SILENT
STRANGE.........
Don't make us get started on Biden.
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President Obama said these things and all three were and remain essentially true.
Only true if you are getting free or subsidized insurance. Those that actually pay their way through life got increases
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Basically, yes!...by not acting fast enough and doing very little when he did act... He's advocated for opening up the economy and that's been a complete disaster...cases are riding and the pace of deaths is actually accelerating...and now he's going to hold a rally where even more people are going to be affected...you guys just don't get it, that TRUMP DOESN'T GIVE A HELL ABOUT YOU OR ME
1. Explain when he should have "acted" and what should have been done. What date?
2. Why are mass protests ok, but rallies are not?
3. Why is it ok to have hundreds in and around a Home Depot, but kids can't play a game of little league.
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Don't make us get started on Biden.
Classic deflection...don't talk about my guy or I'll talk about yours
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1. Explain when he should have "acted" and what should have been done. What date?
2. Why are mass protests ok, but rallies are not?
3. Why is it ok to have hundreds in and around a Home Depot, but kids can't play a game of little league.
Waited too long to prepare for what was coming....took only half measures when the deaths were at their peak and has since actually DISCOURAGED people from social distancing and wearing masks when the data clearly shows that such actions work (look at NY)....he and Republican governor's have opened up states too early and now infections are skyrocketing and deaths are increasing.....and now, during this time when the epidemic is spiking big time, he is totally silent on the issue when federal leadership is needed...he also dismantled our pandemic dept. when he took office...then tried to blame Obama..(even Mitch McConnell said that was a lie)...to top it off he consistently gave out wrong information in his press conferences...remember his advice that we all inject ourselves with disinfectant??????.....WOW
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Not going to address each one individually, but most of those are bullshit. Most of that stuff they are giving obama credit for were rollovers from Bush. The media is the enemy of the people.
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Waited too long to prepare for what was coming....took only half measures when the deaths were at their peak and has since actually DISCOURAGED people from social distancing and wearing masks when the data clearly shows that such actions work (look at NY)....he and Republican governor's have opened up states too early and now infections are skyrocketing and deaths are increasing.....and now, during this time when the epidemic is spiking big time, he is totally silent on the issue when federal leadership is needed...he also dismantled our pandemic dept. when he took office...then tried to blame Obama..(even Mitch McConnell said that was a lie)...to top it off he consistently gave out wrong information in his press conferences...remember his advice that we all inject ourselves with disinfectant??????.....WOW
Please explain what "waited to long to prepare" means. Please be specific.
NY is a terrible example for "what works". They were a complete disaster, and their numbers skew the entire country.
He did not "dismantle the pandemic department". That is a complete myth that you should research and stop spreading the lie.
It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.
One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled.
He did not give advice that we should inject ourselves with a disinfectant. That is a complete myth that you should research and stop spreading the lie. He said that if disinfectants work instantly outside the body, it would be good if we could develop something that acted similarly inside the body. He never said to inject, and he said anything done should be done with medical supervision.
Looks like the media controls your thoughts and actions. You hate the President so much you believe anything that makes him look bad.
Did the gov't handle this perfectly? No. All governments botched this to an extent. But, the US followed the advice of Fauci from Feb on.
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Classic deflection...don't talk about my guy or I'll talk about yours
Why not? You only get to choose 1 in November. If you are always complaining about one candidate that must mean you are happy with the other. Are you happy with Biden? Do you see him as a better candidate for the job?
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:'( :'( :'( Andre :'( :'( :'(
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Trump has long been fixated on his predecessor. Since May 1, as his presidential campaign against former Vice President Joe Biden has heated up, Trump has made at least 12 separate false claims about Obama and his record in office.
Trump added a new one Tuesday in a speech about police reform, declaring that Obama and Biden "never even tried" to fix problems in policing. That's not even close to true.
Here's the list of 12 separate false claims.
1) Obama didn't try on police reform
Trump touted his own efforts to address policing problems, then said, "President Obama and Vice President Biden never even tried to fix this during their eight-year period. The reason they didn't try is because they had no idea how to do it."
Facts First: Obama and his administration took multiple significant steps to try to improve policing. Trump's claim is "absolutely wrong," Samuel Walker, an expert on policing policy and a professor emeritus of criminal justice at the University of Nebraska at Omaha, said Tuesday.
Obama's Department of Justice initiated "pattern-or-practice" investigations into troubled police departments and secured court-enforceable consent decrees or other agreements in which cities including Baltimore, Cleveland, Portland and Miami formally agreed to make changes.
In the last month of Obama's presidency, the Department of Justice reported that "since 2009, the Civil Rights Division has opened 25 investigations into law enforcement agencies and is currently enforcing 19 agreements, including 14 consent decrees and one post-judgment order."
In 2014, after the unrest that followed the killing of Michael Brown by a police officer in Ferguson, Missouri, Obama launched the President's Task Force on 21st Century Policing, which in 2015 put forward dozens of recommendations for improvement. The administration provided grants to some departments that were implementing the recommendations.
In 2015, following criticism of the police use of military equipment during the 2014 protests in Ferguson, Obama placed new conditions on, though did not stop, the transfer of surplus military supplies to police. He also in 2015 secured federal funding for some police departments to buy body cameras. The same year, he launched an initiative to encourage police officers to make more data publicly available, including data on the use of force.
The Trump administration has curtailed the use of pattern-or-practice probes and consent decrees and lifted Obama's restrictions on the transfer of military equipment.
2) Obama didn't try on criminal justice reform
Trump claimed: "I did Criminal Justice Reform, something Obama & Biden didn't even try to do - & couldn't do even if they did try."
Facts First: The Obama administration did try to get a criminal justice reform bill passed; a bipartisan bill failed in the Senate during the 2016 presidential election, when Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell decided not to bring it up for a vote.
The Obama administration nonetheless took its own reform steps that did not require Republican approval, such as banning the use of solitary confinement for juveniles in federal prisons, working with state and local governments to reduce pre-trial incarceration and the incarceration of people with mental illnesses, and instructing federal prosecutors to try to avoid triggering mandatory minimum sentences for certain non-violent drug offenders.
3) Obama didn't start the effort to end HIV/AIDS
Trump claimed that the Obama administration "should have started" the effort to eradicate HIV/AIDS in the US, but "they did nothing."
Facts First: The Obama administration spent billions on anti-HIV/AIDS efforts, both domestically and globally.
4) Trump was the one who got Veterans Choice passed
Trump claimed that "I got Choice" for veterans after others had tried "for 50 years" to create this health care program.
Facts First: Obama signed the Veterans Choice bill into law in 2014; it was a bipartisan initiative led by Sen. Bernie Sanders and the late Sen. John McCain. In 2018, Trump signed the VA Mission Act, which expanded and changed the Choice program.
This is one of Trump's most-repeated false claims. By our count, he made it 59 times between June 8, 2019 and June 7, 2020 alone.
5) The Obama administration left Trump faulty coronavirus tests
Trump claimed that the Obama administration left him "broken" coronavirus tests.
Facts First: The faulty initial test for the coronavirus was created during Trump's administration, in early 2020, by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Since this is a new virus that was first identified during Trump's presidency, tests couldn't possibly have been inherited as "broken" or "obsolete."
6) The Obama administration didn't leave Trump any ventilators
Trump claimed that his administration "inherited nothing" from the Obama administration in terms of medical supplies -- and that "when we started, we didn't have ventilators."
Facts First: While the exact number of ventilators in the national stockpile at the time of Trump's inauguration in 2017 is not known, Richard Branson, a professor at the University of Cincinnati's medical school and editor of the medical journal Respiratory Care, says thousands of ventilators were purchased for the stockpile during the Obama administration and were not used before Trump took office. In addition, journalists personally saw ventilators in the stockpile when they visited facilities in 2016, as FactCheck.org has noted. While the stockpile did have depleted stocks of some supplies like masks, there were significant stores of other items.
7) The Obama administration left the military with no ammunition
Trump claimed that the military had "no ammunition" when he took office.
Facts First: This is a significant exaggeration. According to military leaders, there was a shortfall in certain kinds of munitions, particularly precision-guided bombs, late in the Obama presidency and early in the Trump presidency. But the claim that there was "no ammunition" is not true; military leaders did not say, at least publicly, that they had completely run out of any kind of bomb, let alone ammunition in general.
8) The Obama administration left NASA dead
Trump said "the space program was over" before he took office and that NASA was dead: "What we've done with NASA is amazing. We've brought it back from the dead. It was not essentially functioning, and now it's one of the great centers in the world."
Facts First: Trump is entitled to criticize Obama's handling of NASA, but it's a clear exaggeration to say NASA was "dead" or that the space program was "over." The launch Trump attended in June, in which NASA astronauts were aboard a private company's spacecraft, was the product of a commercial crew program created under Obama.
"It is NOT correct that NASA was dead under the Obama administration," said John Logsdon, the founder of the Space Policy Institute at George Washington University, where he is a professor emeritus, and a former member of the NASA Advisory Council; "much was started, like the commercial crew program."
9) The Obama administration said manufacturing was gone from the US
Trump said: "The previous administration said, 'Manufacturing, we're not doing that. It's gone from this country.' They were wrong."
Facts First: The Obama administration never said it was "not doing" manufacturing. Trump appeared to be referring to a remark Obama made at a PBS town hall in 2016 -- but he was inaccurately describing what Obama said.
Obama scoffed at Trump's campaign promises to bring back what Obama called "jobs of the past" without providing specifics on how he would do so. Contrary to Trump's repeated claim, though, Obama didn't say manufacturing was dead or gone; Obama boasted of how many manufacturing jobs were being created during his presidency, saying, "We actually make more stuff, have a bigger manufacturing base today than we've had in most of our history."
10) Obama wiretapped Trump
Trump claimed that his 2017 tweets alleging that Obama had wiretapped him in Trump Tower had been proven correct: "Remember how you thought that was such a terrible tweet, right? I was right."
Facts First: Trump was not right. There is still no evidence that Trump was wiretapped, let alone that Obama ordered a wiretap of Trump. The Justice Department said in a 2017 court filing that there are no records related to wiretaps like the ones Trump described. Then-FBI Director James Comey told Congress in 2017 that "we have no information to support those tweets."
Paul Manafort, who served as Trump's campaign chairman, was wiretapped before and after the election, CNN has reported, and Manafort had a residence in Trump Tower. But a wiretap of someone living in Trump's apartment building is not the same as a wiretap of Trump himself.
11) Obamacare ended competition among health insurers
Announcing an effort to lower insulin costs for people enrolled in Medicare, Trump said: "In the past, Obamacare prevented insurance providers from competing to offer lower costs for seniors. There was no competition, there was no anything, and they ran away with what took place, and the seniors were horribly hurt."
Facts First: It's not true that there was no price competition among insurers because of Obamacare.
"Obamacare actually didn't affect competition in the market for prescription drug coverage. There were reductions in the number of drug plans available during the Obama administration in an effort to root out needlessly duplicative plan offerings, but seniors have consistently had dozens of plan options over the years," said Juliette Cubanski, deputy director of the Medicare policy program at the Kaiser Family Foundation.
12) Obama got poor poll results on his handling of H1N1
Trump suggested that his response to the coronavirus has polled better than Obama's response to the H1N1 pandemic of 2009: "We are getting great marks for the handling of the CoronaVirus pandemic...Compare that to the Obama/Sleepy Joe disaster known as H1N1 Swine Flu. Poor marks, bad polls - didn't have a clue!"
Facts First: Contrary to Trump's strong suggestion here, Obama got higher ratings in polls on his handling of the H1N1 pandemic than Trump has gotten in polls on his handling of the coronavirus pandemic.
As of May 10, the date of this Trump tweet, FiveThirtyEight's aggregate of polls found that Trump had a 43.5% approval rating on his handling of the coronavirus. A Gallup poll conducted in April 2009, the month of the first confirmed H1N1 cases in the US, found that 66% approved of how the Obama administration was handling the situation. In a CNN poll conducted in late October and early November 2009, 57% approved of Obama's handling of the response.
Welcome back. I see your wounds have healed since the last beat down. Nice link to the cut and paste....oh wait!!!
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Trump killed them?
Why Mr.Trump kill only 117 000 od democraps !.
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Welcome back. I see your wounds have healed since the last beat down. Nice link to the cut and paste....oh wait!!!
Hey Coach! Hope you've been well!... Still Full of ignorance I see...118,000 dead and counting...you can't spin that....of is that Obama's fault as well???????
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Hey Coach! Hope you've been well!... Still Full of ignorance I see...118,000 dead and counting...you can't spin that....of is that Obama's fault as well???????
It's Communist China's fault. You knew that and still you thought it clever to ax.
Oh yeah...Welcome back! ;D
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The virus entered our country via Europe but disregard that since its factual. Felt bad last night for the Donald. Must sting that the avg BLM protest gets more white people than a Trump rally in Oklahoma. #Sad
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The virus entered our country via Europe but disregard that since its factual. Felt bad last night for the Donald. Must sting that the avg BLM protest gets more white people than a Trump rally in Oklahoma. #Sad
Which came from China. What the fng hell is wrong w you
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It's Communist China's fault. You knew that and still you thought it clever to ax.
Oh yeah...Welcome back! ;D
I try not to explain anymore no matter how many times it’s been debunked. They’re going to believe whatever the fake news and The View tells them.
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lol what a load of rubbish, most of those are not even what Trump blames the gay muslim for.
Fake news strikes again.
no such thing as a Gay muslim..they are are all BI love any hole.
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Hey Coach! Hope you've been well!... Still Full of ignorance I see...118,000 dead and counting...you can't spin that....of is that Obama's fault as well???????
You seemed to have conveniently skipped my questions.
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I try not to explain anymore no matter how many times it’s been debunked. They’re going to believe whatever the fake news and The View tells them.
Andrea just was granted clemency for his felony record and released from prison after a few years.
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The virus entered our country via Europe but disregard that since its factual. Felt bad last night for the Donald. Must sting that the avg BLM protest gets more white people than a Trump rally in Oklahoma. #Sad
Same old pedo mohammedan shit, American hater pretends to be (only) anti Trump.
+ it's not yours country !.
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It's Communist China's fault. You knew that and still you thought it clever to ax.
Oh yeah...Welcome back! ;D
I only asked because the neocons on here seem to ALWAYS blame everything on Obama...I was just giving them the opportunity to continue what they've always done.
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The virus entered our country via Europe but disregard that since its factual. Felt bad last night for the Donald. Must sting that the avg BLM protest gets more white people than a Trump rally in Oklahoma. #Sad
Agreed...research has shown that the virus actually hit us so hard due to the vacationers from Europe....China is not innocent however...they have a lot to answer for....lying about the initial outbreak and then suppressing doctors who wanted to sound the alarm...I'm surprised their doctors weren't conveniently falling out of windows.....like the doctors in Russia
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Andrea just was granted clemency for his felony record and released from prison after a few years.
120,000 dead and counting...…………………………………………………………………………...…………………………………………………………………………………...
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1. Explain when he should have "acted" and what should have been done. What date?
2. Why are mass protests ok, but rallies are not?
3. Why is it ok to have hundreds in and around a Home Depot, but kids can't play a game of little league.
okay..I'll try to knock these off quickly....
1. Trump spent critical time not going into lockdown mode when he saw how the virus was spreading in China, Italy, etc....told the American people we had a few cases and they would be gone and down to zero in a few days...he downplayed the disease and that caused other people to do so as well, since the POTUS is supposed to be a source of good reliable info......even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, he is now advocating for opening up states and the result has been the virus is now spreading like wildfire and deaths are INCREASING..you simply cannot deny that no matter how much you spin it...
2. Mass protests are a right...hard to curtail...rallies are NOT....although you can argue that falls under the right to assemble just like the demonstrations.....if you look at the protesters however...the overwhelming vast majority were wearing masks and since those demonstrations there has been NO RESULTING SPREAD as of yet from those mass crowds.....Meanwhile it is awfully insensitive to basically insist that masks not be worn and no social distancing take place at a rally you are giving.....Trump just doesn't give a hell
3. for the same reason that schools are closed...even though its been found that basically kids are less vulnerable to the spread, no politician wants to be the guy on record who has caused the virus to spread to children.....better to be safe....grownups have a right to be idiotic.....even so its not a good idea for kids to bring this virus home to their parents and grandparents….. its been shown that a lot of the spread was caused by people bringing it home to their families
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"2. Mass protests are a right...hard to curtail...rallies are NOT....although you can argue that falls under the right to assemble just like the demonstrations.....if you look at the protesters however...the overwhelming vast majority were wearing masks and since those demonstrations there has been NO RESULTING SPREAD as of yet from those mass crowds.....Meanwhile it is awfully insensitive to basically insist that masks not be worn and no social distancing take place at a rally you are giving.....Trump just doesn't give a hell"
Almost as dumb as Deblasio Daughter. Seek help.
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1. Trump spent critical time not going into lockdown mode when he saw how the virus was spreading in China, Italy, etc....told the American people we had a few cases and they would be gone and down to zero in a few days...he downplayed the disease and that caused other people to do so as well, since the POTUS is supposed to be a source of good reliable info......even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, he is now advocating for opening up states and the result has been the virus is now spreading like wildfire and deaths are INCREASING..you simply cannot deny that no matter how much you spin it...
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LOL. You incompetent fat idiot - remember Democrats saying we had no problems and Trump was racist for the China ban?
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3. for the same reason that schools are closed...even though its been found that basically kids are less vulnerable to the spread, no politician wants to be the guy on record who has caused the virus to spread to children.....better to be safe....grownups have a right to be idiotic.....even so its not a good idea for kids to bring this virus home to their parents and grandparents….. its been shown that a lot of the spread was caused by people bringing it home to their families
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Yet your messiah Cuomo put all those people in nursing homes.
Seek help fool.
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1. Trump spent critical time not going into lockdown mode when he saw how the virus was spreading in China, Italy, etc....told the American people we had a few cases and they would be gone and down to zero in a few days...he downplayed the disease and that caused other people to do so as well, since the POTUS is supposed to be a source of good reliable info......even if you want to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, he is now advocating for opening up states and the result has been the virus is now spreading like wildfire and deaths are INCREASING..you simply cannot deny that no matter how much you spin it...
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LOL. You incompetent fat idiot - remember Democrats saying we had no problems and Trump was racist for the China ban?
I'm not going to say Trump is a racist (although all evidence points to such)...but it does call into question why he banned China (which was fine with me) but DID NOT ban travel right away from Europe where it was later found MOST OF THE CASES WERE COMING FROM...its still something as a leader he has to answer for.....unfortunately ball-licking sheep like you don't want to question anything Trump does
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3. for the same reason that schools are closed...even though its been found that basically kids are less vulnerable to the spread, no politician wants to be the guy on record who has caused the virus to spread to children.....better to be safe....grownups have a right to be idiotic.....even so its not a good idea for kids to bring this virus home to their parents and grandparents….. its been shown that a lot of the spread was caused by people bringing it home to their families
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Yet your messiah Cuomo put all those people in nursing homes.
Seek help fool.
Which was the recommendation at the time and which he too has had to answer for.....HOWEVER look at New York's numbers and the number for the rest of the nation.....especially those in Republican states...whose numbers are going up and whose are going down?..Cuomo has done an excellent job....What has Trump done?????????
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I'm not going to say Trump is a racist (although all evidence points to such)...but it does call into question why he banned China (which was fine with me) but DID NOT ban travel right away from Europe where it was later found MOST OF THE CASES WERE COMING FROM...its still something as a leader he has to answer for.....unfortunately ball-licking sheep like you don't want to question anything Trump does
We should have definately cut off europe earlier and screw Deblasio and Cuomo for disagreeing.
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I'm not going to say Trump is a racist (although all evidence points to such)...but it does call into question why he banned China (which was fine with me) but DID NOT ban travel right away from Europe where it was later found MOST OF THE CASES WERE COMING FROM...its still something as a leader he has to answer for.....unfortunately ball-licking sheep like you don't want to question anything Trump does
1. What has he done in office that points to him being racist? "All evidence" as you put it.
2. When Trump instituted the travel ban, Pelosi immediately introduced legislation to limit his power to do this. It's completely disingenuous to ignore this, and think he could have just locked down the country and limited travel. On March 2, there we 100 confirmed cases in the US. Locking down was impossible, Fauci himself has said this.
3. Based on the evidence I provided, are you able to admit you were wrong about the disabling of the pandemic department, and the suggestion of injecting disinfectants?
As I've said, all governments have made mistakes. But for you to attribute all Covid death to him is just TDS at best, completely stupid and shortsighted at worst.
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1. What has he done in office that points to him being racist? "All evidence" as you put it.
2. When Trump instituted the travel ban, Pelosi immediately introduced legislation to limit his power to do this. It's completely disingenuous to ignore this, and think he could have just locked down the country and limited travel. On March 2, there we 100 confirmed cases in the US. Locking down was impossible, Fauci himself has said this.
3. Based on the evidence I provided, are you able to admit you were wrong about the disabling of the pandemic department, and the suggestion of injecting disinfectants?
As I've said, all governments have made mistakes. But for you to attribute all Covid death to him is just TDS at best, completely stupid and shortsighted at worst.
Not attributing all covid deaths to him at all...This was a new phenomenon and we have had no modern experience with this type of thing....I don't blame Trump for the initial infections and deaths...HOWEVER as this covid pandemic has continued to grow, what steps exactly did Trump to to stem the tide....compared him to Mario Cuomo of NY who paced NY in total lockdown and has gradually opened NY up again...We had almost 900 deaths daily when this thing started now we have less than 20 deaths per day but the other starts, mostly republican bootlickers are skyrocketing because Trump refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of the matter...he doesn't even talk about it at all any more while 120.,000 Americans are dead....the problem is guys like you have been drawn into the Trump cult and refuse to see the truth
As for being racist, his refusal to denounce white supremacists...…..his support for keeping up statues of white supremacists…..he supports keeping the names of white supremacists on Forts....his DACA policies.....his travel ban on muslims…...His use of historically racist slogans....
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Not attributing all covid deaths to him at all...This was a new phenomenon and we have had no modern experience with this type of thing....I don't blame Trump for the initial infections and deaths...HOWEVER as this covid pandemic has continued to grow, what steps exactly did Trump to to stem the tide....compared him to Mario Cuomo of NY who paced NY in total lockdown and has gradually opened NY up again...We had almost 900 deaths daily when this thing started now we have less than 20 deaths per day but the other starts, mostly republican bootlickers are skyrocketing because Trump refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of the matter...he doesn't even talk about it at all any more while 120.,000 Americans are dead....the problem is guys like you have been drawn into the Trump cult and refuse to see the truth
Hmmm....
I guess you just don't care about 117,000 people dead due to Trump's incompetence.
Cuomo has more direct responsibility for casualties than anyone, due his disallowing of nursing homes to not admit Covid positive people. And, as stated, and PROVEN, we couldn't lockdown the country early March, you're just saying things now, without backup.
As for your cult comment, if you read anything here rather than make assumptions, you'd know that's not the case. I back up my arguments with facts, something you haven't done. And you still haven't admitted you were wrong about the pandemic dept and injection of disinfectants.
As for being racist, his refusal to denounce white supremacists...…..his support for keeping up statues of white supremacists…..he supports keeping the names of white supremacists on Forts....his DACA policies.....his travel ban on muslims…...His use of historically racist slogans....
Refusal to denounce white supremacists?
“Racism is evil. And those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans,” he added.
You're making shit up at this point lol.
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Not attributing all covid deaths to him at all...This was a new phenomenon and we have had no modern experience with this type of thing....I don't blame Trump for the initial infections and deaths...HOWEVER as this covid pandemic has continued to grow, what steps exactly did Trump to to stem the tide....compared him to Mario Cuomo of NY who paced NY in total lockdown and has gradually opened NY up again...We had almost 900 deaths daily when this thing started now we have less than 20 deaths per day but the other starts, mostly republican bootlickers are skyrocketing because Trump refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of the matter...he doesn't even talk about it at all any more while 120.,000 Americans are dead....the problem is guys like you have been drawn into the Trump cult and refuse to see the truth
As for being racist, his refusal to denounce white supremacists...…..his support for keeping up statues of white supremacists…..he supports keeping the names of white supremacists on Forts....his DACA policies.....his travel ban on muslims…...His use of historically racist slogans....
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo sent more than 4,300 recovering coronavirus patients to nursing homes across the Empire State, according to the Associated Press."It was the single dumbest decision anyone could make if they wanted to kill people," one New Yorker who lost his 88-year-old father to the virus told the AP.
Obama was OK with - statues of white supremacists….. white supremacists on Forts.... DACA policies.....travel ban on muslims.
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Hmmm....
Cuomo has more direct responsibility for casualties than anyone, due his disallowing of nursing homes to not admit Covid positive people. And, as stated, and PROVEN, we couldn't lockdown the country early March, you're just saying things now, without backup.
As for your cult comment, if you read anything here rather than make assumptions, you'd know that's not the case. I back up my arguments with facts, something you haven't done. And you still haven't admitted you were wrong about the pandemic dept and injection of disinfectants.
Refusal to denounce white supremacists?
You're making shit up at this point lol.
This is why arguing with neocons is a waste of time...you guys never admit when you're wrong anyway....Trump has said a lot things that he has taken back later...and making one statement and then acting contrary to those statements is what he does all the time...you know that...as I said he fumbled concerning the virus outbreak...but what's the excuse now these many months later???....you keep making excuses while people are dying.....even Trump's own people caught the virus in Tulsa after he was told not to hold rallies at this time....and he just admitted he told his people to slow down testing... DURING A PANDEMIC????
WOW...talk about incompetence.......120, 000 dead.....keep licking
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This is why arguing with neocons is a waste of time...you guys never admit when you're wrong anyway....Trump has said a lot things that he has taken back later...and making one statement and then acting contrary to those statements is what he does all the time...you know that...as I said he fumbled concerning the virus outbreak...but what's the excuse now these many months later???....you keep making excuses while people are dying.....even Trump's own people caught the virus in Tulsa after he was told not to hold rallies at this time....and he just admitted he told his people to slow down testing... DURING A PANDEMIC????
WOW...talk about incompetence.......120, 000 dead.....keep licking
1. I'm not a neocon. I'm independent/libertarian. In total, I dislike both parties - they suck. But in the past few years, the Democrats have set new standards for lunacy, pandering and hypocrisy, so I end up defending the right more often than not. Also note - You make a lot of assumptions and ad-hominem attacks instead of just discussing the issue at hand. It makes it difficult to have a genuine discussion.
2. Trump denounced white supremacy on multiple occasions. He's never "taken it back". Please back this up with a link.
3. You haven't provided any facts of what could be done differently after I pointed out Fauci said it would have been impossible to close the country in March.
4. You said "neocons" can't admit when they're wrong. I've asked you multiple times if you are willing to admit you are wrong on the dismantling of the pandemic department, and the suggestion to inject disinfectants after I showed you real information and quotes. You have ignored that - basically you are doing EXACTLY what you are accusing others of, in addition to not backing up your comments with anything tangible that can be discussed. You said you didn't blame Trump for all the covid deaths. I showed you an exact quote of yours saying just that. You ignored that too.
My goodness man.
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This is why arguing with neocons is a waste of time...you guys never admit when you're wrong anyway....Trump has said a lot things that he has taken back later...and making one statement and then acting contrary to those statements is what he does all the time...you know that...as I said he fumbled concerning the virus outbreak...but what's the excuse now these many months later???....you keep making excuses while people are dying.....even Trump's own people caught the virus in Tulsa after he was told not to hold rallies at this time....and he just admitted he told his people to slow down testing... DURING A PANDEMIC????
WOW...talk about incompetence.......120, 000 dead.....keep licking
'Andrey' SF1900 was infected & you didn't care about him ...................
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This is why arguing with neocons is a waste of time...you guys never admit when you're wrong anyway....Trump has said a lot things that he has taken back later...and making one statement and then acting contrary to those statements is what he does all the time...you know that...as I said he fumbled concerning the virus outbreak...but what's the excuse now these many months later???....you keep making excuses while people are dying.....even Trump's own people caught the virus in Tulsa after he was told not to hold rallies at this time....and he just admitted he told his people to slow down testing... DURING A PANDEMIC????
WOW...talk about incompetence.......120, 000 dead.....keep licking
Pfffffft..."Neocon". FTN. I've been Conservative since my conception. As for not admitting to being "wrong"?
When an entire party, i.e., the Democrats, calls that which is wrong, now right and that which is good now evil, I'd say your head is up the wrong ass.
But you'd probably say the weathers fine. Oh...And hopefully you'll pass on and make it 120,001.