Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Marty Champions on July 12, 2020, 10:26:54 AM

Title: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 12, 2020, 10:26:54 AM
Are minorities and poor white people going to keep hammering this idea or will the gov allow for affordable housing. Gotta love how its a race and class argument when simply its the gov that makes you pay out the ass for some dirt, tile, pipes, brick,wires and wood that you have to buy and build yourself.

The average poor family can build an entire 3 bedroom house themselves under 5k in materials
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 12, 2020, 10:25:40 PM
The average poor family has neither 5k nor skills to build a birdhouse let alone a real house.

That being said, there are people who build 5k houses and live in them - they are are called hillbillies.

The reason housing is expensive for working people is govt and banks.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Pray_4_War on July 12, 2020, 10:37:24 PM
They should stop being poor.

Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Methyl m1ke on July 12, 2020, 11:48:13 PM
Housing prices depend on what people are willing to pay. Also nevermind someparts beat me to it. The amount of skill that goes into every new home built in this country is extraordinary. Go try and build a staircase from scratch without the internet or anyone helping onky you and your ingenuity. Or get a foundation level. The list goes on.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: harmankardon1 on July 13, 2020, 12:05:22 AM
Yeah exactly^ no average joe can just build a house....
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Kwon on July 13, 2020, 02:08:28 AM
Yeah exactly^ no average joe can just build a house....

Need to be a Mogul like Goodrum to be able to do so
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Body-Buildah on July 13, 2020, 02:29:18 AM
Prime can have them come stay with his family
they'll be safe, honest
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: IroNat on July 13, 2020, 03:19:16 AM
Affordable housing development in Seattle...

(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/styles/x_large/public/201412/IMG_4716.JPG)

Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2020, 07:04:37 AM
jed did pretty good for himself     
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2020, 07:06:46 AM
jed did pretty good for himself     

             
&t=2s
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Methyl m1ke on July 13, 2020, 07:20:33 AM
Back to.back posts are always a bit risky but quoting your own post and it being a back to back post is just straight up tacky.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 13, 2020, 07:22:37 AM
The average poor family has neither 5k nor skills to build a birdhouse let alone a real house.

That being said, there are people who build 5k houses and live in them - they are are called hillbillies.

The reason housing is expensive for working people is govt and banks.
Just need 5k in bricks , plywood, 2x8's , 2x4's ect. You do need alot of materials and tools . But yeah people want affordable housing that means tax payers should pay for it right?
The best way to appease middle n low income folk is let them build there own, no red tape, then everyone becomes self reliant
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 13, 2020, 07:32:34 AM
Are minorities and poor white people going to keep hammering this idea or will the gov allow for affordable housing. Gotta love how its a race and class argument when simply its the gov that makes you pay out the ass for some dirt, tile, pipes, brick,wires and wood that you have to buy and build yourself.

The average poor family can build an entire 3 bedroom house themselves under 5k in materials

You couldn’t even buy a lumber package for a 1,000 square foot house for $5k. I’d like to know where you’re buying from.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2020, 07:45:51 AM
You couldn’t even buy a lumber package for a 1,000 square foot house for $5k. I’d like to know where you’re buying from.

Marty Champion/Falcon, is getting his parts to build a house from this location:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CduMXVTyxr4su5_q2X47Nd-Gqrsk6yrRd74sx9rTA9X-Bp-QV2FlrzPOLwxaH21vLmRTE7MTmCJKjUs-Z_A_2Jcf3xT43QudWxAW95yEog_of1L5Oz1tnKlNZJ6omZldJYeB)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSHM-lAkzt3Po6baWdVuoQSbPECD-CUWyjE_g&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 13, 2020, 07:57:59 AM
Marty Champion/Falcon, is getting his parts to build a spaceshit from this location:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CduMXVTyxr4su5_q2X47Nd-Gqrsk6yrRd74sx9rTA9X-Bp-QV2FlrzPOLwxaH21vLmRTE7MTmCJKjUs-Z_A_2Jcf3xT43QudWxAW95yEog_of1L5Oz1tnKlNZJ6omZldJYeB)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSHM-lAkzt3Po6baWdVuoQSbPECD-CUWyjE_g&usqp=CAU)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Mr Anabolic on July 13, 2020, 08:13:06 AM
Marty Champion/Falcon, is getting his parts to build a house from this location:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CduMXVTyxr4su5_q2X47Nd-Gqrsk6yrRd74sx9rTA9X-Bp-QV2FlrzPOLwxaH21vLmRTE7MTmCJKjUs-Z_A_2Jcf3xT43QudWxAW95yEog_of1L5Oz1tnKlNZJ6omZldJYeB)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSHM-lAkzt3Po6baWdVuoQSbPECD-CUWyjE_g&usqp=CAU)

Andy Griffith did it already...

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1G0kN4l7qGc/URWzgeRDojI/AAAAAAABACM/8HJlWH-JXI0/s1600/Time+Sheet.jpg)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Notomorrow on July 13, 2020, 08:14:22 AM
Are minorities and poor white people going to keep hammering this idea or will the gov allow for affordable housing. Gotta love how its a race and class argument when simply its the gov that makes you pay out the ass for some dirt, tile, pipes, brick,wires and wood that you have to buy and build yourself.

The average poor family can build an entire 3 bedroom house themselves under 5k in materials
Problem is government regulations when they get an inspector on the property. Zoning laws, strict rules and fines, "safety" compliance code standards that can be confusing and expensive to follow. Building one's own home is the heart and soul of America, going back to the Homestead Act and before. Very hard to do now, unless you are in an out of the way, rural area. Fantastic idea to solve affordable housing though. After WW2, returning Vets used to pick out a home plan to build their own house from Sears. Rarely done now.
 
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: _bruce_ on July 13, 2020, 08:32:44 AM
Problem is government regulations when they get an inspector on the property. Zoning laws, strict rules and fines, "safety" compliance code standards that can be confusing and expensive to follow. Building one's own home is the heart and soul of America, going back to the Homestead Act and before. Very hard to do now, unless you are in an out of the way, rural area. Fantastic idea to solve affordable housing though. After WW2, returning Vets used to pick out a home plan to build their own house from Sears. Rarely done now.

Interesting.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 09:12:19 AM
Back to.back posts are always a bit risky but quoting your own post and it being a back to back post is just straight up tacky.

Funk does that a lot, especially lately. He is really old though so he's pulling a Biden, haha
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 09:13:33 AM
Marty Champion/Falcon, is getting his parts to build a house from this location:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/CduMXVTyxr4su5_q2X47Nd-Gqrsk6yrRd74sx9rTA9X-Bp-QV2FlrzPOLwxaH21vLmRTE7MTmCJKjUs-Z_A_2Jcf3xT43QudWxAW95yEog_of1L5Oz1tnKlNZJ6omZldJYeB)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSHM-lAkzt3Po6baWdVuoQSbPECD-CUWyjE_g&usqp=CAU)

In my former home town the richest guy among a ton of millionaires is the one who owns a scrap steel business.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2020, 09:23:10 AM
In my former home town the richest guy among a ton of millionaires is the one who owns a scrap steel business.

Give him Falcons number.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 09:32:35 AM
You couldn’t even buy a lumber package for a 1,000 square foot house for $5k. I’d like to know where you’re buying from.


Yes you can....you can even build a home  for 1000 bucks.  Doing it in Chicago
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 09:35:12 AM
Are minorities and poor white people going to keep hammering this idea or will the gov allow for affordable housing. Gotta love how its a race and class argument when simply its the gov that makes you pay out the ass for some dirt, tile, pipes, brick,wires and wood that you have to buy and build yourself.

The average poor family can build an entire 3 bedroom house themselves under 5k in materials



Only in a place like Presidio,  TX where there are no building permits.   Rising Housing prices are not the only problem but a stagnation of income.  Minimum wage is 15 years old and it needs to be raised
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 13, 2020, 09:46:06 AM

Yes you can....you can even build a home  for 1000 bucks.  Doing it in Chicago

Go on...


In my former home town the richest guy among a ton of millionaires is the one who owns a scrap steel business.

It’s volitile. Steel and non ferrous are in the toilet right now. Just like stocks, you buy and hold at the wrong time and you’re fucked.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2020, 09:48:31 AM
Would love to see how shitty a house is for a grand, can barely dig shutter and pour a half decent size slab for a grand, never mind build owt on the fucker
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2020, 09:50:14 AM
Dome homes, hobbit homes, and tiny houses are all cheap.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 10:04:57 AM
Go on...


It’s volitile. Steel and non ferrous are in the toilet right now. Just like stocks, you buy and hold at the wrong time and you’re fucked.


Go here.  Built the home for 2k and solar for 1k...still lives there today

https://www.simplesolarhomesteading.com/
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 10:12:13 AM
Give him Falcons number.

I don't know Falcon's number. You can send it to me via DM and no one will know.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 10:13:57 AM


Only in a place like Presidio,  TX where there are no building permits.   Rising Housing prices are not the only problem but a stagnation of income.  Minimum wage is 15 years old and it needs to be raised

Minimum wage never lifts the standard of living. As an astute businessman you should know this. As wages rise prices rise and the cycle repeats.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SF1900 on July 13, 2020, 10:20:20 AM
In my former home town the richest guy among a ton of millionaires is the one who owns a scrap steel business.

You sound like quite the 260 pound ripped to the bone getbig millionaire!!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2020, 10:22:17 AM
Funk does that a lot, especially lately. He is really old though so he's pulling a Biden, haha
                   the FDS is strong today. you got to love sleepy joe though. i would have just stuck with creepy but whatever
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 13, 2020, 10:24:06 AM
Are minorities and poor white people going to keep hammering this idea or will the gov allow for affordable housing. Gotta love how its a race and class argument when simply its the gov that makes you pay out the ass for some dirt, tile, pipes, brick,wires and wood that you have to buy and build yourself.

The average poor family can build an entire 3 bedroom house themselves under 5k in materials

Please give this account back to the original Johnny Falcon
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 10:25:40 AM
                   the FDS is strong today. you got to love sleepy joe though. i would have just stuck with creepy but whatever

lol You make it easy bro. Are you creepy too?
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2020, 10:26:37 AM
here you go your next home for 1500 dollars. you're welcome.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 13, 2020, 10:28:40 AM
lol You make it easy bro. Are you creepy too?
                     ;)  it's all in fun dude. no offense intended. ;)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 13, 2020, 10:35:36 AM

Yes you can....you can even build a home  for 1000 bucks.  Doing it in Chicago

LOL!

Vince this is some of your best work!
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 10:39:18 AM
Minimum wage never lifts the standard of living. As an astute businessman you should know this. As wages rise prices rise and the cycle repeats.


It actually hurts businesses because it means that people have less to spend.  It's the reason why Seattle and San Francisco is a shithole with tons of tent cities.  That's also why I live in South Carolina.  Low cost housing, good income, tax friendly for businesses, etc.  One of the few times that conservatism works and liberalism doesnt...especially the gentrification of neighborhood...running out families of black people to open up a Bubble Tea Cafe...🙄
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2020, 11:02:19 AM

It actually hurts businesses because it means that people have less to spend.  It's the reason why Seattle and San Francisco is a shithole with tons of tent cities.  That's also why I live in South Carolina.  Low cost housing, good income, tax friendly for businesses, etc.  One of the few times that conservatism works and liberalism doesnt...especially the gentrification of neighborhood...running out families of black people to open up a Bubble Tea Cafe...🙄
Tell us all the times liberalism works.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 13, 2020, 11:25:30 AM

Go here.  Built the home for 2k and solar for 1k...still lives there today

https://www.simplesolarhomesteading.com/

Windows, doors, accessories, etc. not included.

Why would any decent human being want to live in a dog house that is barely fit for broke black homos?
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 13, 2020, 11:46:11 AM
Windows, doors, accessories, etc. not included.

Why would any decent human being want to live in a dog house that is barely fit for broke black homos?
If the socialists win we may all be living in shit houses like that.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 12:32:35 PM
                     ;)  it's all in fun dude. no offense intended. ;)

Fair enough :)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 12:37:06 PM

It actually hurts businesses because it means that people have less to spend.  It's the reason why Seattle and San Francisco is a shithole with tons of tent cities.  That's also why I live in South Carolina.  Low cost housing, good income, tax friendly for businesses, etc.  One of the few times that conservatism works and liberalism doesnt...especially the gentrification of neighborhood...running out families of black people to open up a Bubble Tea Cafe...🙄

I live in South Carolina too. I live here because the state doesn't mandate outrageous costs that I experienced in New York state. That's tax friendly. Seattle btw has mandated $15 an hour minimum wage and it is a bigger shithole now than ever.

Hourly rates should follow supply and demand. That allows the labor pool to adjust itself. For example, i just paid a freelance Solidworks designer $50 an hour because that is what a quality guy will get on the open market. I did find guys at $15 an hour but their skills were lacking.

Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Hypertrophy on July 13, 2020, 12:38:30 PM
If the socialists win we may all be living in shit houses like that.

Socialism aka "Communism lite" only works for those in power and their enablers. It is predicated on a mass population becoming their bitches. To do so requires them to remove guns first...
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 02:17:20 PM
Windows, doors, accessories, etc. not included.

Why would any decent human being want to live in a dog house that is barely fit for broke black homos?


Tar Paper can be used in place of windows, door and accessories can be found in a junkyard or goodwill. 

I said that you can build...didnt say anything about it being Beverly Hills mansion🙄
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Henda on July 13, 2020, 02:19:14 PM
May as well live in a fucking rabbit hutch
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 13, 2020, 02:36:19 PM

Tar Paper can be used in place of windows, door and accessories can be found in a junkyard or goodwill. 

I said that you can build...didnt say anything about it being Beverly Hills mansion🙄

You want tar paper windows in Chicago?

Holy fuck, that is a Primemuscle-level stupid post.

Who the fuck in this day and age scrounges for housing materials in a junkyard?

Holy fuck Beetlejuice, you’re a full on moron.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 02:42:08 PM
You want tar paper windows in Chicago?

Holy fuck, that is a Primemuscle-level stupid post.

Who the fuck in this day and age scrounges for housing materials in a junkyard?

Holy fuck Beetlejuice, you’re a full on moron.


I lived in Sylva, NC in Jackson County.  Lot of hillbillies up there that do that shit.  Tar paper windows, wood stove, log or stick built cabins and A Frames...even seen military tents.

I dont care about Chicago but watch and learn

Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: kh300 on July 13, 2020, 04:07:27 PM
This topic always comes up with my liberal friends here in New York. They never care to hear the main cause of such high home prices here is the fact you pay 10k for 1/2 an acre of property tax. The high taxes on equipment, builders, materials. They would much rather believe the reason is greed from the builders not the government.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 13, 2020, 07:45:33 PM

I lived in Sylva, NC in Jackson County.  Lot of hillbillies up there that do that shit.  Tar paper windows, wood stove, log or stick built cabins and A Frames...even seen military tents.

I dont care about Chicago but watch and learn



Vince those tiny dwellings aren’t approved for any sort of living in California. He might be helping people if he kept them on his property but LA County was not allow them legally.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 13, 2020, 09:19:22 PM
Vince those tiny dwellings aren’t approved for any sort of living in California. He might be helping people if he kept them on his property but LA County was not allow them legally.

That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 14, 2020, 05:11:08 AM
That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome
Most states they are as well.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 09:35:18 AM
Prime can have them come stay with his family
they'll be safe, honest

Actually, I'm out of room. They can sleep in the backyard or set up a tent in the neighborhood green-space.  ;D
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 09:46:16 AM
Affordable housing development in Seattle...

(http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuow/files/styles/x_large/public/201412/IMG_4716.JPG)

This is very much like the affordable housing you see all over Portland these days. The city used to have the police roust people out of theses encampments. That is apparently not happening anymore. Portland is starting to look like a third world country.

(https://katu.com/resources/media/4e82da8d-f505-4072-8714-3ce180935aae-large16x9_VOHOMELESSMTGSAM730.transfer_frame_1313.jpg?1586554375644)

(https://www.wweek.com/resizer/o8qmKkKXhz9E5Y0ZNAUjYCRMoNs=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/s3.amazonaws.com/arc-wordpress-client-uploads/wweek/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/09233016/P1055319.jpg)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 09:57:40 AM
Problem is government regulations when they get an inspector on the property. Zoning laws, strict rules and fines, "safety" compliance code standards that can be confusing and expensive to follow. Building one's own home is the heart and soul of America, going back to the Homestead Act and before. Very hard to do now, unless you are in an out of the way, rural area. Fantastic idea to solve affordable housing though. After WW2, returning Vets used to pick out a home plan to build their own house from Sears. Rarely done now.

Sears retired their "big book" catalog in 1993.

This is a Sears catalog kit home, The Magnolia. It cost $5,140. to build. The house still exists today but if you want to buy it, it cost over $1,000,000.

(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2018/10/16/magnolia---catalog-7a96d715be119117e5a7eb7b384305c01bc193b2-s800-c85.jpg)

(https://media.brstatic.com/2018/11/06145026/Sears-catalog-kit-homes-from-early-1900s-still-exist-today-and-some-are-selling-for-millions-of-dollars.jpg)

The "good old days" are long gone.





Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 10:19:14 AM
Would love to see how shitty a house is for a grand, can barely dig shutter and pour a half decent size slab for a grand, never mind build owt on the fucker

Marty is a dreamer. A gallon of quality paint is nearly $50 - $70 from Sherman Williams or Benjamin Moore paint companies.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2020, 10:27:19 AM
perfect house for the average get bigger. smaller house for your servants, all you need is an electrified fence to keep out the peons.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 14, 2020, 10:56:44 AM
That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome

There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Humble Narcissist on July 14, 2020, 11:01:12 AM
There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.
Yep, lots of empty warehouses, former factories, hospitals, etc, not serving any purpose right now that could be made useful.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 14, 2020, 11:37:51 AM
There are many reasons CA is messed up but tiny houses arent the issue, taking care of the mentally ill is the biggest issue. LA county has more people living in it that 45 states, that includes NC.

While I agree the tiny house would seem like a better option than tent cities, they actually create more issues. What needs to be done is converting old warehouses, or mental facilities into homeless shelters. But property is valuable in LA, so until someone figures out how to make a profit from the homeless, the problem wont change.


But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SF1900 on July 14, 2020, 11:41:09 AM

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Vince, let’s build a tiny house and live in it together.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 11:57:46 AM

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Let me get this straight chocolatehomo.

You approve of tar paper windows, but disapprove of California?

Holy fuck TBombz and Primehomosexual really do have competition for board idiot status.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Henda on July 14, 2020, 12:00:22 PM
Had to look up tar paper never realised It was roofing felt people actually make windows out it in this day and age?
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 12:03:50 PM
Had to look up tar paper never realised It was roofing felt people actually make windows out it in this day and age?

Only “people” who think they can build a house for $1,000 using windows from a junkyard.

Or what we in America call....retards.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 12:33:57 PM

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Have you been to California?

Pebble Beach, CA
(https://na.rdcpix.com/1273383400/1a891d2319ee359502ef7d0c2408b398w-c117546xd-w640_h480_q80.jpg)
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 14, 2020, 01:13:22 PM

But they are not coverting warehouses....theres a difference between action and works.  The tiny houses were paid for by one man...not the city and they tore them down.  They weren't the best but better and more safe than those tarp tents

You can defend California all you want but it's a high tax, high rent , shithole.  Deal with it

Meh.

You're a former pro wrestler, entrepreneur, gay, minority living in the South, you'd think you would like California.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2020, 02:23:52 PM
Yep, lots of empty warehouses, former factories, hospitals, etc, not serving any purpose right now that could be made useful.
   they would rather see people freeze than keep open a facility like ASH which is scheduled to be ripped down.  it was seen in the movie glass.                 
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 02:30:24 PM
   they would rather see people freeze than keep open a facility like ASH which is scheduled to be ripped down.  it was seen in the movie glass.                 


And who would pay to “keep it open?”
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 14, 2020, 02:34:22 PM
And who would pay to “keep it open?”


The taxpayer....that is right after the mayor's brother's new company does asbestos abatement and they both become millionaires. It's how the world works folks.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 02:37:22 PM

The taxpayer....that is right after the mayor's brother's new company does asbestos abatement and they both become millionaires. It's how the world works folks.

So the hard working farmers in Nebraska would be forced to pay for a food, clothing, and shelter issue in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco?
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: funk51 on July 14, 2020, 02:40:21 PM
And who would pay to “keep it open?”
                  i guess you would rather see us do this with the homeless.   
&t=13s
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 04:36:37 PM
                  i guess you would rather see us do this with the homeless.   
&t=13s

Typical liberal, ready to implement their fairy tale ideas using other people’s money.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 14, 2020, 05:02:45 PM
So the hard working farmers in Nebraska would be forced to pay for a food, clothing, and shelter issue in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco?

Walt do you think Nebraska farmers pay enough tax to help out the homeless on the west coast?

Taxpayers are paying for the homeless as is, we should at least use the money in a responsible manner. If the government can figure out a way to subsidize housing projects and EBT cards that can be used to buy McDonald’s, they  should be able to figure out a way to house the homeless.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 05:49:43 PM
Walt do you think Nebraska farmers pay enough tax to help out the homeless on the west coast?

Taxpayers are paying for the homeless as is, we should at least use the money in a responsible manner. If the government can figure out a way to subsidize housing projects and EBT cards that can be used to buy McDonald’s, they  should be able to figure out a way to house the homeless.

First off....let’s separate the people who are homeless because of REAL mental illness from the people who are homeless because of drugs, laziness, or bad personal choices.

If you moved from Ohio to Seattle because you “dug the music scene”, have no education or skills, and can’t figure out why you can’t afford to live downtown when you only work 20 hours a week for $12/hr., then I don’t care if you live in a fucking tent at Chernobyl.

But I don’t believe that the federal government or any other state should indiscriminately or disproportionately bail out California for the mess they are in, or the third world meltdown they are headed towards. So no, I don’t think Governor Fuck-Up Newsom should be reaching into the pocket of Nebraska farmers, no more than rich people from Silicon Valley should be paying for 7 generations of family members on welfare in Chicago.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 14, 2020, 06:25:04 PM
That's why California is so fucked up.  I'd rather have those homes than those eye stores of tents.  In NC , tiny homes are welcome
agreed , our gov wants us to live in shit we cant afford and denies us a reasonable alternative. The really want us to work hard and have a difficult time
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Dave D on July 14, 2020, 06:29:22 PM
First off....let’s separate the people who are homeless because of REAL mental illness from the people who are homeless because of drugs, laziness, or bad personal choices.

If you moved from Ohio to Seattle because you “dug the music scene”, have no education or skills, and can’t figure out why you can’t afford to live downtown when you only work 20 hours a week for $12/hr., then I don’t care if you live in a fucking tent at Chernobyl.

But I don’t believe that the federal government or any other state should indiscriminately or disproportionately bail out California for the mess they are in, or the third world meltdown they are headed towards. So no, I don’t think Governor Fuck-Up Newsom should be reaching into the pocket of Nebraska farmers, no more than rich people from Silicon Valley should be paying for 7 generations of family members on welfare in Chicago.

I cant argue with this.

There should be some sort of "work/job/skills" for those on long term government assistance. As in they work general labor/maintenance for road crews, bridge improvements  for 40 hours a week at $10 an hour (or whatever is fair based on the assistance they recieve) until they fond permanent work.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 14, 2020, 06:38:23 PM
U can get or make windows very cheap. U can use a shipping container and with a 150buc grinder cut out sky lights  u can make it very nice

Behr satin exterior paint 45 buck , high quality.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Tapeworm on July 14, 2020, 06:53:32 PM
Had to look up tar paper never realised It was roofing felt people actually make windows out it in this day and age?

I think bituminous paper has been conflated with actual felt, which is a sheet of animal fur and probably the product of choice before petroleum science. There was a builder online years ago who was a proponent of actual felt as a building wrap since it was vapor permeable but became impermeable to water with exposure (as the animal hair expanded with wetting, making the matrix impassable. Hair swelling is also why you don't use a bristle hair brush with water based paints). Can't remember what his objection to Tyvek was but the dude was proudly dinosaurish about it and insisted he was right.

Seems likely that merchants just kept calling any roofing underlay "felt" since that's what everyone knew it as. Probably got to the point where if a guy asked for felt underlay, and they gave him actual animal felt, he'd say wtf is this, I want some roofing felt, lol. Kind of like how most yanks will ask you for tin foil, and you hand them al foil, they'll say thanks that's exactly what I wanted.

Idk what Melvin is talking about. You can't make a window out of tar paper. A window is something which lets light in and you can see through when it's closed. That's how glass works, Vince.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 14, 2020, 06:53:41 PM
First off....let’s separate the people who are homeless because of REAL mental illness from the people who are homeless because of drugs, laziness, or bad personal choices.

If you moved from Ohio to Seattle because you “dug the music scene”, have no education or skills, and can’t figure out why you can’t afford to live downtown when you only work 20 hours a week for $12/hr., then I don’t care if you live in a fucking tent at Chernobyl.

But I don’t believe that the federal government or any other state should indiscriminately or disproportionately bail out California for the mess they are in, or the third world meltdown they are headed towards. So no, I don’t think Governor Fuck-Up Newsom should be reaching into the pocket of Nebraska farmers, no more than rich people from Silicon Valley should be paying for 7 generations of family members on welfare in Chicago.


Dats raycissst.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: SOMEPARTS on July 14, 2020, 06:56:11 PM
So the hard working farmers in Nebraska would be forced to pay for a food, clothing, and shelter issue in Seattle, Portland, and San Francisco?


Technically nobody is paying for it because they are printing dollars to cover the already bankrupt system that has been long in place. The tax base is a joke with no balanced budget enforcement. They have proven that they don't even need taxes at this point. The whole idea of spending has decoupled from tax receipts, and the voters have no power to change it at this point.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Primemuscle on July 14, 2020, 06:57:39 PM
   they would rather see people freeze than keep open a facility like ASH which is scheduled to be ripped down.  it was seen in the movie glass.                 


It is a beautiful looking building that ought to be preserved and given a purpose. Unfortunately, it can be considerably more expensive to repair, maintain and possibly covert existing older buildings than it is to demolish them and build new. Here in the west we are prone to earthquakes. Just making a structure earthquake sound, can more more expensive than replacing it.  It is a problem many schools face because they like it appears Allentown State Hospital is, are un-reinforced brick and mortar. Not to forget that clay brick disintegrates overtime. Beautiful, historic buildings don't last indefinitely.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Walter Sobchak on July 14, 2020, 09:05:54 PM

Dats raycissst.

Well of course....in the year of our Lord 2020 AD I am considered a racist by the insane looney idiots on the left.

Now ask me if I care.
Title: Re: Always hear crap about how we need more affordable housing
Post by: Marty Champions on July 15, 2020, 05:17:18 AM
The real felt paper ive seen is used as the underlayment for a poured hot tar roof