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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: ziballz on August 03, 2020, 01:24:31 PM
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Not by suicide, as we were previously told ???
From his official IG page.
(https://i.redd.it/9mzfmp9h2te51.jpg)
Nick's video
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ALL THESE GUYS THINK THEY ARE GOING TO WIN THE OLYMPIA !!
DELUSIONS OF PEACE.
RIP
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so this is a dig at Dead Con 1 and Singerman basically
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Ban hearts
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Genetic abnormality of Peace.
(Copy-Kwon-Cat)
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it hereditary causes
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so, WHY DID Aaron and FLEX LEWIS, go to social media, and say it was suicide, the moment luke died, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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He died of a congenitally bloated ego.
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so, WHY DID Aaron and FLEX LEWIS, go to social media, and say it was suicide, the moment luke died, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Denial, push the blame to something else
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so, WHY DID Aaron and FLEX LEWIS, go to social media, and say it was suicide, the moment luke died, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
First Dallas and now Luke, clearly there is a pattern here as someone else mentioned.
Aaron and his shady Red CON Artists turned Dallas into a Frankenstein. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same with Luke. I remember when Dallas died, he (Aaron) created the "Dallas McCarver foundation" which raised close to $50,000. He called it a Non-profit but the status was never applied nor approved. Legally an org can't take money until the foundation status is approved. The Foundation was set up up in the names of Aaron, Dallas's GF, and one of Aaron's employee named Eduardo AFAIK. Dallas's family were nowhere in it. When word got out - Aaron threatened Nick S&P with a libel suit if he didn't take his IG posts down.
Scumbags gonna Scumbag.
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No ones wants to take accountability for their actions. He abused drugs. His choice. Doesn't mean Aaron Singerman isn't a sleazy dirtbag. He is and always will be.
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how would they have known it was a suicide when his "friends" declared it! was way too hastly, unless he was hanged, or wrist was slit! I knew it was BS, Luke was like MVP of that year, he got famous recently and FAST too, why would he be depressed when he was on top of the bodybuilding industry, wish more investigation is to be done with his "buddies" and "sponsors"
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Natural death over suicide can sometimes be argued where theres life insurance involved, but I doubt Luke or any pro bodybuilder would be covered, and autopsy and blood work would just neutralise any claim. But weird to claim suicide then heart failure, heart failure from a drug overdose ? wouldn't that still be suicide, maybe not, if the drug use was non narcotic and ongoing.
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Natural death over suicide can sometimes be argued where theres life insurance involved, but I doubt Luke or any pro bodybuilder would be covered, and autopsy and blood work would just neutralise any claim. But weird to claim suicide then heart failure, heart failure from a drug overdose ? wouldn't that still be suicide, maybe not, if the drug use was non narcotic and ongoing.
Thankyou smart post^
There's more here than seems, I think this post by family without any evidence, is not something to be taken too seriously regarding what actually happened. I think suicide is the real COD here.
Had he not actually killed himself the family would have made a huge effort at the time of his death to correct those " rumours" instead nothing was said until now and it's just a little heart failure mention,
As you say death by OD or asphyxiation ect can cause heart failure.
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Thankyou smart post^
There's more here than seems, I think this post by family without any evidence, is not something to be taken too seriously regarding what actually happened. I think suicide is the real COD here.
Had he not actually killed himself the family would have made a huge effort at the time of his death to correct those " rumours" instead nothing was said until now and it's just a little heart failure mention,
As you say death by OD or asphyxiation ect can cause heart failure.
so you are assuming it was suicide because Aaron singerman and redcon said so?
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2 top IFBB pro’s died of a heart attack in less than 3 years: Dallas McCarver and Luke Sandoe
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how would they have known it was a suicide when his "friends" declared it! was way too hastly, unless he was hanged, or wrist was slit! I knew it was BS, Luke was like MVP of that year, he got famous recently and FAST too, why would he be depressed when he was on top of the bodybuilding industry, wish more investigation is to be done with his "buddies" and "sponsors"
Flex Lewis lives in Florida, same city boca raton as singerman, and close friends with that scumbag
They are all in it together, Dallas, singerman, flex, Luke
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ALL THESE GUYS THINK THEY ARE GOING TO WIN THE OLYMPIA !!
DELUSIONS OF PEACE.
RIP
No delusions about it. Just emphasizes the fact that every serious bodybuilder needs a doctor as a professional friend and religious medical follow-up. Luke's demise probably could have been avoided.
Sad.
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No delusions about it. Just emphasizes the fact that every serious bodybuilder needs a doctor as a professional friend and religious medical follow-up. Luke's demise probably could have been avoided.
Sad.
i disagree, at that "level" of mr olympia, you pretty much have to be dumb and bold enough, to risk it all... Luke died for us bitches!
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Fouad and that Chow guy intimated that Luke was involved
with rec drugs. And that other unmentioned factors made them absolutely certain it was suicide. It could be a suicide note, or dying in a way he had hinted at previously, who knows.
I would bet it was suicide, no reason to make it up, especially since suicide is looked down upon. Toxicology report would be interesting. My guess is there were narcotics in his system and the drugs led to heart failure.
so you are assuming it was suicide because Aaron singerman and redcon said so?
Singerman posted as the story broke that is wasn't suicide. In all caps.
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so you are assuming it was suicide because Aaron singerman and redcon said so?
Did you read my post dipshit?
His family didn't dispute suicide as COD until now, they have provided no evidence of "heart failure" added to that heart failure is a very broad term .....
If they have proof he died of heart failure simply post a coroners report/autopsy to disprove the suicide. But they won't because the report will say something like "death resulted from heart failure due to asphyxiation, overdose etc" ....
Some fucking dumbasses getting around.
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2 top IFBB pro’s died of a heart attack in less than 3 years: Dallas McCarver and Luke Sandoe
Heart attack and heart failure are not the same thing.
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Did you read my post dipshit?
His family didn't dispute suicide as COD until now, they have provided no evidence of "heart failure" added to that heart failure is a very broad term .....
If they have proof he died of heart failure simply post a coroners report/autopsy to disprove the suicide. But they won't because the report will say something like "death resulted from heart failure due to asphyxiation, overdose etc" ....
Some fucking dumbasses getting around.
So the people who found him including his training partner all said it was suicide. His family never disputed this but for some reason decided to post on his IG account and change the narrative. He talked specifically about what he used this off season in a recent video and it would be trt for many gym rats.
And as expected now people will blame BB.
Heart attack and heart failure are not the same thing.
Exactly. Many drug overdoses cause heart failure including, heroin, cocaine, meth, slin etc.
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Why are people with genetic heart defects so drawn to bodybuilding? A real head scratcher.
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Why are people with genetic heart defects so drawn to bodybuilding? A real head scratcher.
;D ;D ;D
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Did you read my post dipshit?
His family didn't dispute suicide as COD until now, they have provided no evidence of "heart failure" added to that heart failure is a very broad term .....
If they have proof he died of heart failure simply post a coroners report/autopsy to disprove the suicide. But they won't because the report will say something like "death resulted from heart failure due to asphyxiation, overdose etc" ....
Some fucking dumbasses getting around.
there was no proof he committed suicide other then what his "friends" report. If you are about to commit suicide,you would leave a note behind or something, Overdose on party drugs like cocaine is a different story. I guess luke and Epstein are one of the anomaly's to commit suicide without notice except the people around him lol
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there was no proof he committed suicide other then what his "friends" report. If you are about to commit suicide,you would leave a note behind or something, Overdose on party drugs like cocaine is a different story. I guess luke and Epstein are one of the anomaly's to commit suicide without notice except the people around him lol
Meh, the note thing is not always the case and doesn’t really strengthen your case. If this helps the family cope, so be it but it doesn’t change what happened. Few competitors I know shed some light on this recently and the original story seems to be the truth.
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Meh, the note thing is not always the case and doesn’t really strengthen your case. If this helps the family cope, so be it but it doesn’t change what happened. Few competitors I know shed some light on this recently and the original story seems to be the truth.
i guess thats true, i just find it hard to believe he got depressed and offed himself, he became a big star recently, until then, no one knew who he was
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i guess thats true, i just find it hard to believe he got depressed and offed himself, he became a big star recently, until then, no one knew who he was
My youngest brother took his own life. He didn't leave a note and prior to blowing his brains out and did not show any signs of being suicidal. He had been a meth addict but was clean (autopsy report) when he took his life.
Sandoe was also a drug addict with steroids and the like.
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Why are people with genetic heart defects so drawn to bodybuilding? A real head scratcher.
Its the same with liver and kidney disease...
amazing coincidence
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First Dallas and now Luke, clearly there is a pattern here as someone else mentioned.
Aaron and his shady Red CON Artists turned Dallas into a Frankenstein. I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same with Luke. I remember when Dallas died, he (Aaron) created the "Dallas McCarver foundation" which raised close to $50,000. He called it a Non-profit but the status was never applied nor approved. Legally an org can't take money until the foundation status is approved. The Foundation was set up up in the names of Aaron, Dallas's GF, and one of Aaron's employee named Eduardo AFAIK. Dallas's family were nowhere in it. When word got out - Aaron threatened Nick S&P with a libel suit if he didn't take his IG posts down.
Scumbags gonna Scumbag.
Sleazy as hell.
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My youngest brother took his own life. He didn't leave a note and prior to blowing his brains out and did not show any signs of being suicidal. He had been a meth addict but was clean (autopsy report) when he took his life.
Sandoe was also a drug addict with steroids and the like.
sorry to hear that, METH is a different breed of drugs on its own and i wouldn't wish that addiction even on my worst enemy
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Fouad and that Chow guy intimated that Luke was involved
with rec drugs. And that other unmentioned factors made them absolutely certain it was suicide. It could be a suicide note, or dying in a way he had hinted at previously, who knows.
I would bet it was suicide, no reason to make it up, especially since suicide is looked down upon. Toxicology report would be interesting. My guess is there were narcotics in his system and the drugs led to heart failure.
Singerman posted as the story broke that is wasn't suicide. In all caps.
He smoked pot like it was coffee. Every day before bed he said if I remember right. So that leads me to believe he took lightly on rec drugs aswell.
Not to mention being on tren and all that other stuff that is known to affect your psyche.
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He smoked pot like it was coffee. Every day before bed he said if I remember right. So that leads me to believe he took lightly on rec drugs aswell.
Not to mention being on tren and all that other stuff that is known to affect your psyche.
His friends has said he had "problems" even before bodybuilding. A couple of years ago I read somewhere that Luke said he couldn't use tren due to psych issues. Whether completely true or not it means he was someone who was "sensitive" mentally. When he died it was also mentioned, I think he even talked about it on some podcast (?), that he had just started taking antidepressants.
It is known that when initiating antidepressant use suicide risk actually goes up. It's like inhibitions from the depression
lift and you suddenly get the strength to act upon suicidal ideations, you may act impulsively. Now I have no idea what is what here or Luke's mindset - just my thoughts.
It's not necessarily so that drug users think lightly of drug use, or that they don't understand the risks, it may be that
drug use seems like one of the only viable ways to survive mental torment. It can actually be a completely rational way to regulate mood. Not necessarily good, especially long term, but rational.
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Abusing rec drugs when you have depression can leave people in a hole that they feel they can't get out of, a lot of people take their lives at that low point when all they have to do is wait for the brain chemistry to rebalance, the trouble is with long term abuse and a disposition to depression, it doesn't or it does less so everytime, leaving the user or addict worse off, like others here i unfortunately have first hand experience through a family member, its heart breaking, I hope your brother Scott found the peace in death that escaped him in life, truly heart breaking i suffer similar.
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The true reason for his demise...Covid.
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so this is a dig at Dead Con 1 and Singerman basically
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100% - supplement companies supply their athletes with all the gear then need. Deadcon1, as long as the Ferrari payment is made . ..
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