All drugs.
He only picked people from his own time. No sense of history. Probably doesn't know who Sergio Oliva is.
I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle. maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever. hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.'
and what does your post have to do with how these guys look nowdays when they retire? nothing! my point is why do they just not care anymore how they look? could you imagine a "super model" who retires then goes in public all fat no makeup greasy hair unshaven legs etc. i dont think so. kinda like arnold. hes movies were great back when he still looked like arnold and the roles were believable. when he no longer had a build his movies tanked. he wasnt "arnold" any more. stallonne even though hes old maintaines a good body and his movies are still somewhat believable
I kinda get what you're saying but Stallone was like 150lbs when ripped for movie roles. IOW a tiny tit. Looked good on screen, but so did Bruce Lee and he was an even tinier tit, what 120-130lbs?
Dennis Wolf today has muscle that Stallone was a million miles from ever achieving. Dennis is just on TRT and probably has problems with the neck so probably can't load many exercises. Plus probably has had worrying labs every now and then and figures it's better to slim down, try to get the heart to reduce in size etc.
Mark Wahlberg was/is also a tiny tit, but at least neither Stallone nor Wahlberg allowed Lee Priest to shit on their chest, then have the audacity to call Getbiggers racist. So you have to give it to them for that.
All drugs.
All drugs.
THIS!
Will never forgive Karen for that.
Calling us KKK just for being concerned with our society and how it devolves.
THIS!
Will never forgive Karen for that.
Calling us KKK just for being concerned with our society and how it devolves.
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A lot of these guys retire and then start with the ugly tattoos. wtf?
Dennis is tiny now because his testicles don't produce anything on their own. For years they were non-functional and now? Atrophied.
This is pretty much the norm among top competitors of the last few decades. Sheit...Even gym rants take more than the guys of the 60s and 70s. Of course I have no real idea of what they typical idiot gym rat takes but why they take anything at all comes down to one word.
Ego.
Dennis was great and was robbed of the Olympia at least once or twice. Hopefully he and his wife have a long and happy life together ahead of them as he seems a good man.
As for "booty"? If that was her condemning my President?
FTN.
Dennis is tiny now because his testicles don't produce anything on their own. For years they were non-functional and now? Atrophied.
This is pretty much the norm among top competitors of the last few decades. Sheit...Even gym rants take more than the guys of the 60s and 70s. Of course I have no real idea of what they typical idiot gym rat takes but why they take anything at all comes down to one word.
Ego.
A lot of these guys retire and then start with the ugly tattoos. wtf?
I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle. maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever. hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.
I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle. maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever. hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.
Looks like he needs to carb up on some cheese burgers again
Dennis and his downsizing is addressed here at the beginning of this video, in that discussion between Steve Kuclo and Dennis:
^ Although it isn't mentioned whether or not Dennis is now no longer bigbychoices, or if he is because he had no choices [possibly due to a neck injury that Getbig's own Van Bilderass alluded to above]. Or maybe he got small because someone give him the wrong advices.
I always find it funny when people say "He looks good - looks healthy", which I always find is code for saying that a retired pro got smaller. ;D
In 2012-2013 when Jay "shrunk" down to 260-lb [which is technically true, as his previous offseason weight was normally in the 295- to 310-lb range], he said that a lot of people were telling him that he was "getting lean", or that his shoulders were looking leaner than usual. All veiled ways of telling him that he was getting smaller.
But in the end, it was good for Jay to do that, and to be honest, I think he should get even smaller than he is now.
Unfortunately with a lot of pros, when they competed at 5'9" and 255-lb, and were offseason at 300+, they have a tendency to look a bit strange sometimes when they are 250-lb at their normal offseason bodyfat.
In the case of Ronnie and Jay, they would look like they need to be inflated, even if at 240-lb.
Kevin Levrone was THE exception to that rule - he could be 180-200-220-240- or even almost 260-lb in contest condition at 5'9.5", and he looked good at all of those weights. Whereas Ronnie Coleman at 250-lb has big hands, and other remnants of his former size, and just looks like he needs to fill out. I think that factors in to some of the body dysmorphic issues that some retired pros have, which prevents them from downsizing as they probably should, for the sake of their health.
I think Generation Iron's new movie "Bigorexia" is out this month, sometime pretty soon. It probably talks about this thought process, among recently retired pro bodybuilders.
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He doesn't look too skinny in this video. He actually looks athletic. I'm guessing the slin went out, hgh was lowered or dropped, and he's just on TRT+ (500 mg - 1000 mg)
Getbig's own Van Bilderass has a really good eye for determining what sort of cycle a person is on. I'm not the sort of person who expects bodybuilders to stay big after they retire.
What I find sad though is that if a retired pro bodybuilder TRULY went off gear, and just ate a bodybuilding diet and trained hard, they would be radically smaller in size. Really, nothing close to how they looked prior. And that's kind of sad. You could literally take a top pro bodybuilder, have him retire and change nothing but switch from all the gear to TRT-only, and he would look night and day difference, even with no health problems. It wouldn't be close.
There's a big difference between big cycles and TRT, but the difference between nothing at all and just TRT or slightly above "real" TRT, say 200mg a week, can be absolutely crazy.
Some bodybuilders can maintain pretty impressively for long periods of time on just a CC of test and a couple of units of GH. I would say that even 100mg of test will give a 40 year old guy a big advantage over a natural, completely healthy guy with healthy T levels.
Some retired bodybuilders who downsize and go on TRT maintain extremely lean bodies. I wonder if that's their natural genetics or if the drugs changed their metabolisms permanently somehow. Like Palumbo, who if I'm not mistaken claims to be on nothing at all, not even TRT, which he says would immediately put 20lbs on him - wouldn't be good for his heart condition. He might not be lying.
I dont get it. These guys retire or whatever and then they dont even try to maintain any muscle. It doesnt make sense UNLESS the doc said it will kill them due to other health reasons. I mean most of us actually like to train. I know they cant stay at 250 plus pounds but they could stay around 200 with muscle. maybe they are just burned out mentally and physically to workout but yet they still do videos or expos or whatever. hell stallone looks awesome and hes in his 70s.
He is "tiny" only compared to his own previous self. Compared to the average man he is still huge and very muscular. He does not have tanked T because he is on TRT with a little GH too mlst likely.
Every bodybuilder, even the 70s guys had/have impaired testosterone production. This is not something that only occurred recently with increasing doses - this condition occurs with any meaningful use of anabolics. Even if a guy recovered normal production, how much muscle is a normal average of maybe 35mg of test going to maintain compared to the 5,000mg it took to build it?
I think Dennis is small now mostly because of a neck injury and because he doesn't care about being huge. I think however that he is extremely lean compared to the average man, and his muscle mass is way higher.
There's really no way to win for a former top bb. Stay big and they are addicts. Downsize and they are weak mentally and physically.
99% of pro bodybuilders never built their foundations before getting huge. When they come off they shrink back to what they were. The muscle you gain juicing is mostly temporary. The muscle gained drug free is mostly permanent.
He doesn't look too skinny in this video. He actually looks athletic. I'm guessing the slin went out, hgh was lowered or dropped, and he's just on TRT+ (500 mg - 1000 mg)
I doubt trt is 500mg haha! Nothing 500-1000 is considered anything close to trt or “trt +” you are simply just “using gear” at that point
Pro Emeric Delzceg got some guys doing "microdoses" of 10mg of enanthate a day, supposedly is enough to give guys good numbers in the upper-normal range. Stan Efferding claims his TRT is 20mg of Enanthate a day, but he obviously hits cycles in there too.
Pro Emeric Delzceg got some guys doing "microdoses" of 10mg of enanthate a day, supposedly is enough to give guys good numbers in the upper-normal range. Stan Efferding claims his TRT is 20mg of Enanthate a day, but he obviously hits cycles in there too.
enanthate is long acting, why would you bother injecting every day? seems like a waste of time to me
enanthate is long acting, why would you bother injecting every day? seems like a waste of time to me
In-N-Out Burger?
Do they have those in Canada? I have to confess that I have never eaten at In and Out. Are the burgers THAT good?(https://preview.redd.it/uthh9co296w41.jpg?auto=webp&s=0c4eed94c50449ef07d4d1a2af22bd087c2c62b4)
Food down here - both basic southern soul food and especially REAL Cajun - sets the bar kind of high for food. That said - I am not a huge seafood fan. I love gumbo but prefer chicken and andouille sausage over shrimp.
My wife is a friggin kick azz cook - and somehow make clean meals taste like the creole good! But every now and again I do love a tasty burger.
I guess this is totally derailing the thread - but WHO has the best burger?
They claim ED results in higher and more stable levels. Some HRT docs are doing this too. The interesting thing with enanthate is that it actually raises test faster than prop, though longer acting. Peak levels are at 12 hours with enanthate according to Emeric. The thing with 10mg shots is that you just pop them under the skin with an insulin pin. I have tried subq shots and I can do half a ML no problem if it's pharma test with low preservatives. There are even injector pens for subq test enanthate nowadays, 50-75-100mg in each dose.
https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/
Interesting. I've heard of doing subq but thought you didn't get as much absorption. I seems to make sense to me as muscle is active tissue with blood flow and subq just goes into the fat but, tbh, I really don't know and just speculating.
I'm on TRT so that is 1cc intramuscularly per week and I dread it. I would much rather do two .5cc twice a week with an insulin pin subq. Actually, the longest needle I've seen on an insulin syringe is a half an inch and that will go into a muscle if you are pinning the delts. I would much rather use a 29-30 gauge if the oil will go through it and I assume you have to back load it. And twice a week of cyp will give even more even levels.
What is the minimum gauge who can use to get oil to go through an insulin syringe?
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Interesting. I've heard of doing subq but thought you didn't get as much absorption. I seems to make sense to me as muscle is active tissue with blood flow and subq just goes into the fat but, tbh, I really don't know and just speculating.
I'm on TRT so that is 1cc intramuscularly per week and I dread it. I would much rather do two .5cc twice a week with an insulin pin subq. Actually, the longest needle I've seen on an insulin syringe is a half an inch and that will go into a muscle if you are pinning the delts. I would much rather use a 29-30 gauge if the oil will go through it and I assume you have to back load it. And twice a week of cyp will give even more even levels.
What is the minimum gauge who can use to get oil to go through an insulin syringe?
Buy insulin syringes and pins separately. Use a regular drawing pin and then switch. Backloading is a bitch. I have used 30g half inch no problem. Doesn't even go in especially slowly, quick and easy. I would load a bunch at a time, say 30 pins if you want to do ED or EOD, that way you don't have to fumble around with your gear every day.
If you go on pubmed there are a bunch of studies on SC testosterone, how it's preferred for patient ease when self-administering. Even saw a study on SC test undecanoate, a 4ml shot, which caused more pain than IM but that's a huge shot, my god :o
I will do an "enhanced TRT" here now myself, I'm thinking 20mg Test E, 2.5mg Trest A and 5mg Mast P, every day or every other day if I'm lazy :D
try mixing a small amount of Masteron propionate with it, it goes through much easier
Every insulin syringe I have ever seen has a NONdetachable needle. I've never seen insulin needles sold separately. There are 30 gauge needles for regular syringes but I doubt you could get oil to pass through them. Regular syringes don't have the pounds per square inch pressure that the insulin syringe has. It's the difference when a 125 pound women steps on your foot wearing shoes with a flat heel than if she steps on your foot with a spiked heel.
Looks terrible. I wonder if he regrets injecting all that oil into certain body parts now. It's just going to get worse.
Why? Does Masteron use a different carrier oil? If so, why not just use that oil? I don't really want to use Mast. I like my hair.
Looks terrible. I wonder if he regrets injecting all that oil into certain body parts now. It's just going to get worse.
Why? Does Masteron use a different carrier oil? If so, why not just use that oil? I don't really want to use Mast. I like my hair.
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its a lot thinner oil, and 25mgs mast a week isnt going to lose your hair
and what does your post have to do with how these guys look nowdays when they retire? nothing! my point is why do they just not care anymore how they look? could you imagine a "super model" who retires then goes in public all fat no makeup greasy hair unshaven legs etc. i dont think so. kinda like arnold. hes movies were great back when he still looked like arnold and the roles were believable. when he no longer had a build his movies tanked. he wasnt "arnold" any more. stallonne even though hes old maintaines a good body and his movies are still somewhat believable
Imagine you on some Mast, your calves and arms are already vascular as fuck you will become vein man!
Unfortunately, with the dubious exception of male gym rats, most consider visible veins to be somewhat unattractive if not gross. Enough people already find me somewhat unattractive if not gross. It's not a quality I want to emphasize further.
Unfortunately, with the dubious exception of male gym rats, most consider visible veins to be somewhat unattractive if not gross. Enough people already find me somewhat unattractive if not gross. It's not a quality I want to emphasize further.
Some women love muscular veiny forearms in particular. Quite a few actually. Dudes give respect, girls get hot and bothered :D
Why? Does Masteron use a different carrier oil? If so, why not just use that oil? I don't really want to use Mast. I like my hair.
at least you have personality, personality goes a long way...
Some women love muscular veiny forearms in particular. Quite a few actually. Dudes give respect, girls get hot and bothered :D
I've only met a few women that found vascularity attractive. Most of the girls i know think it's gross to have large veins everywhere. Women who are into working out usually like it though.
I've always been vascular, it's genetic. Even when i'm a little heavy my arms and legs are covered in veins.
Dated a nurse a while back who was obsessed with my arms. Always joked she wanted to take my blood with a 18g needle, i think it turned her on a bit. ;D
IOGIYWITB - I've had at least a dozen guys comment on my calves, it was an inside joke with my ex GF. We are standing in line at a grocery store and this guy walks up to me "nice calves bro", then just gives me a thumbs up and walks off. My GF at the time thought it was hilarious, so she told everyone about it and always messed with me about it. My calves aren't that great, but they are vascular as hell and have good shape to them. Only bodypart i've ever had random dudes comment on. "How do you train your calves"? It's genetic, my dad's calves look great too and he hasn't lifted weights in 30 years. No homo.
The carrier used depends on which source youre getting it from. Heat your gear under running hot water after you load the syringe. 40 seconds will work.
Oh and stop being a pussy about having to stick yourself.
Don't you live in Finland?
Long sleeve shirts or tops that are rolled up past the elbow are a huge turn on for a lot of women. Add decent looking forearms to the mix and they'll be creaming themselves.(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSvh5-YPrJlR9B8Cl53Sn4kbk2SWvi468xZq_t5ncGLJQ&usqp=CAU&ec=45714077)
Finn living in Sweden :D
I've had dudes on the bus pointing at my forearms and doing a thumbs up. Usually arabs, homo alert :D
Females occasionally want to touch the forearms. If you google attractive bodyparts forearms come up at the top for females. Extremes may not be attractive but I think females like "strong" forearms. I think quite a few chicks like extremes like Frank McGrath's forearms as well. Perhaps veiny forearms make them think of cocks :D
why the tattoos?
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Translation: “Duuuuhhh.....at least she won’t have to buy that many Father’s Day cards.”
HE IS USELESS TO US NOW !!
why the tattoos?
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why the tattoos?
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They are a symbol of his individuality.
I guess ???
THIS!
Will never forgive Karen for that.
Calling us KKK just for being concerned with our society and how it devolves.