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Title: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: affeman on November 20, 2020, 11:50:58 AM
Dude's genetics must've been literally one in a million :o
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: funk51 on November 20, 2020, 12:03:20 PM
                Teen Mr America - AAU Overall Winners



1956 - John Podrebarac

1957 - Mike Ferraro

1958 - John Gourgott

1959 - Joe Abbenda

1963 - Jerry Daniels

1964 - Bud Schosek

1965 - Dennis Tinerino

1966 - Boyer Coe

1967 - Michael Dayton

1968 - Ken Covington

1969 - Bob Gallucci

1970 - Casey Viator

1971 - R Scott Pace

1972 - Sammie Willis (Related Articles)

1973 - Joseph Ugolik (Related Articles)

1974 - Dan Tobol

1975 - Ron Teufel (Related Articles)

1976 - Mike Torchia

1977 - James Yasenchok

1978 - Rudy Hermosillo

1979 - Lee Haney

1980 - Danny Berumen

1981 - Mike Quinn

1982 - Anthony Watkins

1983 - Victor Terra

1984 - Ted Lopes

1985 - Matt DuFresne

1986 - Derrick Whitsett

1987 - Frank Vassil

1988 - John Vano

1989 - Mike Goll

1990 - Paul Grafas

1992 - Branch Warren

1993 - Jeremy Parmley

1994 - Rodney Bizzell

1995 - Jay Jaillett

1996 - Jay Jaillett

1997 - Justin Leonard

1998 - Jared Tucker

1999 - Roger Morello                      some other contenders,
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 20, 2020, 12:52:44 PM
The old Mid City gym. I worked out there a couple of times. It really was a bit of a dump but it was hard core.  I was there when a photographer was taking pictures of the gym.  A girl working out there that I recognized from the magazines said to the photographer, " I do nudes too with a smile."  One time Tom who owned it had a new policy after bodybuilding took off. No one was allowed to visit the gym walking around the gym floor. I think it got too much traffic from the gays and tourists. 

Another hardcore gym in the area was Atlas in Jersey city, NJ across the river from Manhattan.  It was a second floor walk up on top of a little store. The floor had holes in it from dropped deadlifts. If you didn't know where the holes were under the rug you could twist an ankle. The manager who was not the owner seemed to be a guy down on his luck. He lived in the gym. He had a hot plate, tv and a couch to sleep on.  He was friendly guy. 

People who train in modern gyms would be shocked how gyms were back in the day.  I still think hard core dumps are the best gyms but I do like trying the equipment in modern gyms. Just in my town are two gyms. One looks like a million bucks. Beautiful flooring with new equipment. Maybe 20 treadmills and all the other cardio equipment. A little boxing room and an indoor swimming pool. Women have their hair done, make up and wear those panty hose leggings that's just as good as being naked. Expensive cars are in the parking lot and the beautiful tan people come out of them.

The other gym is the one that I belong to. It's a hard core place. All the machines are over 30 years old. Chalk flies by the powerlifters and the floor gets white. Hard core trainers mix with the old people who go there to socialize.  Maybe the biggest muscular guy I have ever seen workout there. He looks about 350 and is muscular. He couldn't win anything because he is a cross between a strong man contestant and bodybuilder. Very impressive but he doesn't squat or deadlift. He does move impressive weights in other exercises. He mainly works out by himself and has a soft voice that seems weird coming out of this gorilla.  He told me he's just a naturally huge guy and he doesn't use anything. He said he as a training partner who he works out with when his partner is juicing. He said off the juice he can't keep up.  Very few young women work out there. They normally come in to check the place out and leave with a disgusted look on their face. I'm sure they ended up in the above paragraph gym. One thing for sure is a 45lbs plate is a 45lbs plate no matter where you go. Yates and Coleman were the result of working out in a place like the one I'm describing.

On a side note the picture of Harold Poole in Mid city used to live in Union city, NJ. The same place Weider used to have his headquarters prior to moving to California. Rumor was at the time Poole worked for the mob as an intimidator.  Someone correct me if that was false. He lived above a bar that was notorious for mob activity. 
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: funk51 on November 20, 2020, 01:13:09 PM
The old Mid City gym. I worked out there a couple of times. It really was a bit of a dump but it was hard core.  I was there when a photographer was taking pictures of the gym.  A girl working out there that I recognized from the magazines said to the photographer, " I do nudes too with a smile."  One time Tom who owned it had a new policy after bodybuilding took off. No one was allowed to visit the gym walking around the gym floor. I think it got too much traffic from the gays and tourists. 

Another hardcore gym in the area was Atlas in Jersey city, NJ across the river from Manhattan.  It was a second floor walk up for a little store. The floor had holes in it from dropped deadlifts. If you didn't know where the holes were under the rug you could twist an ankle. The manager who was not the owner seemed to be a guy down on his luck. He lived in the gym. He had a hot plate, tv and a couch to sleep on.  He was friendly guy. 
   
People who train in modern gyms would be shocked how gyms were back in the day.  I still think hard core dumps are the best gyms but I do like trying the equipment in modern gyms. Just in my town are two gyms. One looks like a million bucks. Beautiful flooring with new equipment. Maybe 20 treadmills and all the other cardio equipment. A little boxing room and an indoor swimming pool. Women have their hair done, make up and wear those panty hose leggings that's just as good as being naked. Expensive cars are in the parking lot and the beautiful tan people come out of them.

The other gym is the one that I belong to. It's a hard core place. All the machines are over 30 years old. Chalk flies by the powerlifters and the floor gets white. Hard core trainers mix with the old people who go there to socialize.  Maybe the biggest muscular guy I have ever seen workout there. He looks about 350 and is muscular. He couldn't win anything because he is a cross between a strong man contestant and bodybuilder. Very impressive but he doesn't squat or deadlift. He does move impressive weights in other exercises. He mainly works out by himself and has a soft voice that seems weird coming out of this gorilla.  He told me he's just a naturally huge guy and he doesn't use anything. He said he as a training partner who he works out with when his partner is juicing. He said off the juice he can't keep up.  Very few young women work out there. They normally come in to check the place out and leave with a disgusted look on their face. I'm sure they ended up in the above paragraph gym. One thing for sure is a 45lbs plate is a 45lbs plate no matter where you go. Yates and Coleman were the result of working out in a place like the one I'm describing.

On a side note the picture of Harold Poole in Mid city used to live in Union city, NJ. The same place Weider used to have his headquarters prior to moving to California. Rumor was at the time Poole worked for the mob as an intimidator.  Someone correct me if that was false. He lived above a bar that was notorious for mob activity.
   that would be the cheetah club.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: funk51 on November 20, 2020, 01:15:07 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: funk51 on November 20, 2020, 01:18:57 PM
https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=545225.0
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 20, 2020, 02:05:09 PM
Poole was the head bouncer.

I believe a lot of the WWF wrestlers used to train at Mid City when in town.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Never1AShow on November 20, 2020, 05:07:50 PM
                Teen Mr America - AAU Overall Winners



1956 - John Podrebarac

1957 - Mike Ferraro

1958 - John Gourgott

1959 - Joe Abbenda

1963 - Jerry Daniels

1964 - Bud Schosek

1965 - Dennis Tinerino

1966 - Boyer Coe

1967 - Michael Dayton

1968 - Ken Covington

1969 - Bob Gallucci

1970 - Casey Viator

1971 - R Scott Pace

1972 - Sammie Willis (Related Articles)

1973 - Joseph Ugolik (Related Articles)

1974 - Dan Tobol

1975 - Ron Teufel (Related Articles)

1976 - Mike Torchia

1977 - James Yasenchok

1978 - Rudy Hermosillo

1979 - Lee Haney

1980 - Danny Berumen

1981 - Mike Quinn

1982 - Anthony Watkins

1983 - Victor Terra

1984 - Ted Lopes

1985 - Matt DuFresne

1986 - Derrick Whitsett

1987 - Frank Vassil

1988 - John Vano

1989 - Mike Goll

1990 - Paul Grafas

1992 - Branch Warren

1993 - Jeremy Parmley

1994 - Rodney Bizzell

1995 - Jay Jaillett

1996 - Jay Jaillett

1997 - Justin Leonard

1998 - Jared Tucker

1999 - Roger Morello                      some other contenders,

Mid 80s Murderer's Row of Bob Gruskin acolytes?
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 20, 2020, 08:36:54 PM
   that would be the cheetah club.

The place was rumored to be the  Ichiban  tavern. I think Harold's brother got killed at the Cheetah club.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: polychronopolous on November 20, 2020, 08:51:50 PM
Viator, Coe
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 20, 2020, 09:46:24 PM
Jorge chic Bentancourt (sp) probably had the best genetics.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: tommywishbone on November 20, 2020, 10:00:57 PM
Eight time Mr. Olympia Lee Haney.

This thread is now closed.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 21, 2020, 12:07:21 AM
Jorge chic Bentancourt (sp) probably had the best genetics.

This having the best genetics... 20 yrs old

(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=565553.0;attach=614561;image)

Shawn 17 yrs old

(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2008/12/1720yrs20old201983tt0-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 21, 2020, 12:14:15 AM
Dude's genetics must've been literally one in a million :o

Lol one in a million

One in a million would be someone in a real pro sport like basketball, football, baseball, etc
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Matt on November 21, 2020, 12:29:21 AM
Lol one in a million

One in a million would be someone in a real pro sport like basketball, football, baseball, etc

Your post seems to suggest that bodybuilding is a semi-real sport, and I would disagree with that.  No matter how dedicated and disciplined pro bodybuilders are, I just can't call it a sport in any way, shape or form.

As for the most gifted teenage genetics, a Getbigger posted this shot, so the Jesse Eisenberg lookalike on the far-left [fitting] may be the winner of this prestigious title.  Apparently this group was some sort of UK version of the New Kids on the Block.  As for the guy on the far-right...that's not Lee Priest:
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Griffith on November 21, 2020, 01:21:23 AM
Casey Viator, at  apparently 19 in this photo:

(https://www.trulyhuge.com/forum/caseyviator.jpg)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on November 21, 2020, 03:22:41 AM
Lol one in a million

One in a million would be someone in a real pro sport like basketball, football, baseball, etc


Why on earth do you & the likes of you frequent & post on a bodybuilding board when you clearly
Dislike what bodybuilding “Sport” is. Why not find a board on a subject you like & Enjoy.
You’d be happier & we would. So Much Negativity.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: affeman on November 21, 2020, 03:42:36 AM

Why on earth do you & the likes of you frequent & post on a bodybuilding board when you clearly
Dislike what bodybuilding “Sport” is. Why not find a board on a subject you like & Enjoy.
You’d be happier & we would. So Much Negativity.

Well, BB is not exactly a sport, it's more like a COD. So most people with shitty genetics, who still look like shit after many years of "living the lifestyle" (lol) become more and more bitter and negative as they put a lot into it and still get ridiculed or not taken serious by the general public, as they don't even look much better than the averege Joe. Still because of their COD they can't let it go and have to stick around BB-boards and topics etc. and let their inner bitterness and negativity break loose. Pretty sad actually, but it is what it is :)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 21, 2020, 03:46:07 AM
Vic Richards or Casey Viator.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: joswift on November 21, 2020, 03:47:32 AM
                Teen Mr America - AAU Overall Winners



1956 - John Podrebarac

1957 - Mike Ferraro

1958 - John Gourgott

1959 - Joe Abbenda

1963 - Jerry Daniels

1964 - Bud Schosek

1965 - Dennis Tinerino

1966 - Boyer Coe

1967 - Michael Dayton

1968 - Ken Covington

1969 - Bob Gallucci

1970 - Casey Viator

1971 - R Scott Pace

1972 - Sammie Willis (Related Articles)

1973 - Joseph Ugolik (Related Articles)

1974 - Dan Tobol

1975 - Ron Teufel (Related Articles)

1976 - Mike Torchia

1977 - James Yasenchok

1978 - Rudy Hermosillo

1979 - Lee Haney

1980 - Danny Berumen

1981 - Mike Quinn

1982 - Anthony Watkins

1983 - Victor Terra

1984 - Ted Lopes

1985 - Matt DuFresne

1986 - Derrick Whitsett

1987 - Frank Vassil

1988 - John Vano

1989 - Mike Goll

1990 - Paul Grafas

1992 - Branch Warren

1993 - Jeremy Parmley

1994 - Rodney Bizzell

1995 - Jay Jaillett

1996 - Jay Jaillett

1997 - Justin Leonard

1998 - Jared Tucker

1999 - Roger Morello                      some other contenders,

but were they all under 20, the Jnr USA used to have guys in their 20s competing
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: IroNat on November 21, 2020, 04:17:27 AM
How come Morris Finebaum isn't on the list?

Surely you know of him.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Matt on November 21, 2020, 04:50:37 AM
How come Morris Finebaum isn't on the list?

Surely you know of him.

I remember he.  He popped in, then souled out.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: harmankardon1 on November 21, 2020, 05:45:13 AM
At 17 no ones been as freaky as Lee priest was...
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2020, 05:52:57 AM
I took these pics back in 1999 of my 17 year old training partner. He had only done a very small amount steroids at this point, which I injected him with. I think with a substantial cycle he could've been pro level within a few months. But he lost interest in the whole bb thing soon after.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: ChristopherA on November 21, 2020, 05:56:37 AM
Any pics of Franco Santoriello? The Cybergenics poster boy. He looked amazing as a teen
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Darren Avey on November 21, 2020, 06:46:23 AM
Some of these comments are disgraceful.
Bodybuilding is not just a sport but the greatest sport in the universe
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 21, 2020, 10:35:05 AM
I took these pics back in 1999 of my 17 year old training partner. He had only done a very small amount steroids at this point, which I injected him with. I think with a substantial cycle he could've been pro level within a few months. But he lost interest in the whole bb thing soon after.
What does he look like today?
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 21, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
Any pics of Franco Santoriello? The Cybergenics poster boy. He looked amazing as a teen
Cybergenics created monsters. ;D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: funk51 on November 21, 2020, 10:56:21 AM
     
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 21, 2020, 12:15:21 PM

Why on earth do you & the likes of you frequent & post on a bodybuilding board when you clearly
Dislike what bodybuilding “Sport” is. Why not find a board on a subject you like & Enjoy.
You’d be happier & we would. So Much Negativity.

Meltdown
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 21, 2020, 12:17:39 PM
Well, BB is not exactly a sport, it's more like a COD. So most people with shitty genetics, who still look like shit after many years of "living the lifestyle" (lol) become more and more bitter and negative as they put a lot into it and still get ridiculed or not taken serious by the general public, as they don't even look much better than the averege Joe. Still because of their COD they can't let it go and have to stick around BB-boards and topics etc. and let their inner bitterness and negativity break loose. Pretty sad actually, but it is what it is :)

Bingo!
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 21, 2020, 12:22:54 PM
Your post seems to suggest that bodybuilding is a semi-real sport, and I would disagree with that.  No matter how dedicated and disciplined pro bodybuilders are, I just can't call it a sport in any way, shape or form.

As for the most gifted teenage genetics, a Getbigger posted this shot, so the Jesse Eisenberg lookalike on the far-left [fitting] may be the winner of this prestigious title.  Apparently this group was some sort of UK version of the New Kids on the Block.  As for the guy on the far-right...that's not Lee Priest:

Lol I don’t even consider it a sport, funny when other bbers  refer to other bbers as “athletes”

Illumanati is mad he isn’t an “athlete” of any sort, and what he spends his free time in is just a hobby/pageant contest...... never said there was anything wrong with that

I don’t find it to be negative to point out that bbing isn’t a real sport, doesn’t mean I don’t follow working out, being active and living a healthy lifestyle
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Walter Sobchak on November 21, 2020, 12:30:10 PM
At 17 no ones been as freaky as Lee priest was...

Eddie Robinson at 17 years old was way better than Liar Priest.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 21, 2020, 12:53:18 PM
Eddie Robinson at 17 years old was way better than Liar Priest.
Strong as a bull as well.  Benched over 600 as a teenager.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: wes on November 21, 2020, 01:16:22 PM
(https://www.picclickimg.com/d/w1600/pict/114382100647_/MUSCLE-UP-bodybuilding-fitness-magazine-with-poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Earl1972 on November 21, 2020, 01:39:49 PM
I took these pics back in 1999 of my 17 year old training partner. He had only done a very small amount steroids at this point, which I injected him with. I think with a substantial cycle he could've been pro level within a few months. But he lost interest in the whole bb thing soon after.

looked impressive especially for his age, but hard to do damage at the pro level with lats that high

E
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Royalty on November 21, 2020, 01:47:03 PM
Eddie Robinson has to be among the top names
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: anabolicguru on November 21, 2020, 01:48:37 PM
lee was barely 5 foot tall at 17
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2020, 02:26:27 PM
looked impressive especially for his age, but hard to do damage at the pro level with lats that high

E

The lats look extra high there but it wasn't that bad, no one remarked on it back then. His legs were a bit weaker than the upper. Not saying he would have been a top pro but could've got to that level quickly.


What does he look like today?
 

No juice, no training  :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Teutonic Knight 1 on November 21, 2020, 02:40:46 PM
At 17 no ones been as freaky as Lee priest was...



Could be Sammy Ionnidis , 2 X IFBB Junior Mr.Universe  !.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pellius on November 21, 2020, 02:44:22 PM
I took these pics back in 1999 of my 17 year old training partner. He had only done a very small amount steroids at this point, which I injected him with. I think with a substantial cycle he could've been pro level within a few months. But he lost interest in the whole bb thing soon after.

17? That's insane! Sucks when things come easy and they don't give crap. How tall was he?
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: che on November 21, 2020, 02:46:02 PM
Any pics of Franco Santoriello? The Cybergenics poster boy. He looked amazing as a teen

He did look amazing  ,14 years old Franco .






(https://www.jackdup4jesus.com/assets/img/franco_bio_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pellius on November 21, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Well, BB is not exactly a sport, it's more like a COD. So most people with shitty genetics, who still look like shit after many years of "living the lifestyle" (lol) become more and more bitter and negative as they put a lot into it and still get ridiculed or not taken serious by the general public, as they don't even look much better than the averege Joe. Still because of their COD they can't let it go and have to stick around BB-boards and topics etc. and let their inner bitterness and negativity break loose. Pretty sad actually, but it is what it is :)

It's like you just read my diary.  :'(
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Fortress on November 21, 2020, 11:00:13 PM
The lats look extra high there but it wasn't that bad, no one remarked on it back then. His legs were a bit weaker than the upper. Not saying he would have been a top pro but could've got to that level quickly.

 

No juice, no training  :D

You take a lot of semi-naked pics of this cat.

Kinda ghay.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Fortress on November 21, 2020, 11:04:16 PM
Any pics of Franco Santoriello? The Cybergenics poster boy. He looked amazing as a teen

I met Franco when he was a rising “thing” in bodybuilding. At his best.

Not too tall ... and he was very angry and pissy. His face had a constant expression like he just learned his car was stolen and he smelled a rancid fart at the same time.

He was the classic Angry Little Man.

Good physique, though, even if he is a manlet.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 21, 2020, 11:42:26 PM
You take a lot of semi-naked pics of this cat.

Kinda ghay.

I wish I took more. I was his coach, and taught him everything, what little I knew, about training since he was 15 years old. I took maybe 4 or 5 pics with his analog camera because he asked me to, these were scanned later by him. So he has these shitty 5 pics of a period of in his life, 2-3 years of hardcore bodybuilding, which he still cherishes despite abandoning it soon after. Now he can tell stories as an "old" man of his glory days to little kids getting into the gym culture but has hardly any evidence to back it up. No proof of his very good gym lifts either. It's just probable bullshit to the kids, the kind of baloney every old guy tells  :D

I competed too at this time. Can you believe I have zero pics, either on stage or gym? :'( I hated getting my picture taken in general but I regret it now. A friend took some pics of me posing at the gym when I was in shape but when he got them developed the camera had malfunctioned so all I have is 2 out of focus pics lol. Pathetic  :'( :D

I hate this current excessive picture taking and Instagram whoring and narcissism but a moderate amount of pics is nice to have.

A little rant regarding pics  :D

Do you take a lot of pics Fortress? You don't seem like a picture whore either  :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 22, 2020, 05:23:29 AM
The lats look extra high there but it wasn't that bad, no one remarked on it back then. His legs were a bit weaker than the upper. Not saying he would have been a top pro but could've got to that level quickly.

 

No juice, no training  :D
Has good genetics for muscle, should start training again.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Never1AShow on November 22, 2020, 05:44:47 AM
Cybergenics created monsters. ;D

Everyone involved with Cybergenics should have been hung.  Absolute 100% scam, sold to the foolish by the crooked
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: BB on November 22, 2020, 06:01:41 AM
Everyone involved with Cybergenics should have been hung.  Absolute 100% scam, sold to the foolish by the crooked

The workout supplied was pretty good though, made a lot of regular folks bust their ass compared to what was a general fitness workout back then.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 22, 2020, 07:30:05 AM
17? That's insane! Sucks when things come easy and they don't give crap. How tall was he?

That’s  the mindset with some, my friend Kevin was the same way, turned pro in physique, could have gone far too, had a great look, 6 ft tall, good looks, everything came easy, and just quit and never looked back

(https://aestheticmuscleclub.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/kevin-perod-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 22, 2020, 09:21:57 AM
Dude's genetics must've been literally one in a million :o

Besides Lee, always thought Jorge Betancourt had a phenomenal physique

Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 22, 2020, 10:30:21 AM
17? That's insane! Sucks when things come easy and they don't give crap. How tall was he?

He was only 5'4". I measured his arms when he was fluffy and with a pump at almost 18 inches which is nuts. Yeah I know everyone supposedly has 20 inch arms  ::) :D

It suck when those with wonderful genes don't give a crap. I would have done anything to have had the genes for top level bodybuilding.

I have another friend whose arms I measured at a legit 21 when he was barely out of his teens. Now we are both over 40 and his biceps are literally like 3 of mine. It's more like his arms are as big as my quads. Genetics are a bitch :'( :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: affeman on November 22, 2020, 10:51:00 AM
Besides Lee, always thought Jorge Betancourt had a phenomenal physique

Dude was handsome facially as well. Could've starred in Beverly Hills 90210 or smth like that #nohomo
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 22, 2020, 11:06:38 AM
Dude was handsome facially as well. Could've starred in Beverly Hills 90210 or smth like that #nohomo

he was on RX muscle in the last few years and he become very well off with something supplement related.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Fortress on November 22, 2020, 11:18:28 AM
Do you take a lot of pics Fortress? You don't seem like a picture whore either.

No, I don’t.

Don’t give much of a shit about pictures.

Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Never1AShow on November 22, 2020, 01:46:11 PM
The workout supplied was pretty good though, made a lot of regular folks bust their ass compared to what was a general fitness workout back then.

No, the workout was not pretty good.  It was a whole burnout to failure forced negatives nonsense routine specifically designed to not be completed so that they could always claim it was your failure to do their "tough workout" that was the problem and not that they were fraudsters 

Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Van_Bilderass on November 22, 2020, 01:56:43 PM
I only did the Cybergenics Phase 1 kit. I think you were supposed to increase your food drastically for 2 weeks even before you started the specific program and supps  :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Straw Man on November 22, 2020, 02:07:34 PM
Besides Lee, always thought Jorge Betancourt had a phenomenal physique

per his interview with Dave Palumbo he was injecting drugs from  ~ the age of 13 or 13 (almost the same time he started training)

Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Fortress on November 22, 2020, 02:09:36 PM
I only did the Cybergenics Phase 1 kit. I think you were supposed to increase your food drastically for 2 weeks even before you started the specific program and supps  :D

What a load of shit, eh?

I cannot believe I ever put even an ounce of belief in all this fart-powder horsecrap.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Matt on November 22, 2020, 02:17:49 PM
per his interview with Dave Palumbo he was injecting drugs from  ~ the age of 13 or 13 (almost the same time he started training)

14.

That's much better.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: BB on November 22, 2020, 02:20:39 PM
No, the workout was not pretty good.  It was a whole burnout to failure forced negatives nonsense routine specifically designed to not be completed so that they could always claim it was your failure to do their "tough workout" that was the problem and not that they were fraudsters

Ok, I misremembered it, I might be thinking of the Costa/Platz Big Beyond Belief thing. Here was the Cybergenics workout -

 
CYBERGENICS WORKOUT

**Notes on training:
-All training is done immediately following a 13-15 hr fast period, on an empty stomach.
-The muscles are brought to positive and negative failure.
-Rest time is limited to how long your partner takes to finish his/her superset(s).
-Concentrate on raising the weight quick, while lowering it very slow, up to six seconds to do so.
-Do not count reps. Everything is done to failure.
- You can substitute exercises of your choice.

(DAYS 1 and 4)

Diet Day 1: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 4: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs with moderate protein consumption, about 1 to 1.5 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)

Quads and Hams:
Cycle 1 (repeat cycle 4 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Squats at 80% max to + and - failure
Squats at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Sissy squats to + and - failure
Deep knee bends to + and - failure
Flexing for 30 seconds

Cycle 2 (repeat cycle 2 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Leg extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Leg extensions at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Leg curls at 80% max to + and - failure
Leg curls at 50% of the above to + and - failure

Calves:
Cycle 3 (repeat cycle 3 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Calf raises at 90% max to + and - failure
Calf raises at 50% of the above to + and - failure
Single leg calf raises (holding dumbbell) 80% max to + and - failure
Calf raises (without weight) to + and - failure
Flexing for 30 seconds

Traps:
Cycle 4 (repeat cycle 4 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Barbell shrugs at 90% max to + and - failure
Dumbbell shrugs at 90% max to + and - failure
Upright rows at 75% max to + and - failure
Upright rows at 50% of the above to + and - failure

Abs:
Cycle 5 (repeat cycle 3 times, no rest between each set of the cycle)
Crunches at 50% max to + and - failure
Crunches (no added weight) to + and - failure
Leg raises (no added weight) to + and - failure

DAYS 2 & 5

Diet Day 2: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 5: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)

Chest:
Cycle 1(repeat 4 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Dumbbell flyes at 80% max to + and - failure
Dumbbell flyes at 50% of above to + and - failure
Bench press at 60-70% max to + and - failure
flex for 30 seconds

Cycle 2(repeat 2 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Incline press at 90% max to + and - failure
Incline press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Dips (without added weight) to + and - failure

Back:
Cycle 3 (repeat 6 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Lat pulldowns (shoulder width grip) at 95% max to + and - failure
Lat pulldowns (close grip) at 50% of above to + and - failure
Lat pulldowns (close grip) at 50% of above to + and - failure

Cycle 4 (repeat 5 times, no rest between each set of cycle)
Seated cable rows at 90% max to + and - failure
Seated cable rows at 50% of above to + and - failure
Seated cable rows at 50% of above to + and - failure

DAYS 3 & 6

Diet Day 3: ***Carb intake is limited to 100 grams. Caloric intake is kept low, equal to your BMR
(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)
Diet Day 6: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)

Shoulders:
Cycle 1 (Repeat 5 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Barbell press at 95% max to + and - failure
Barbell press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Barbell press at 50% of above to + and - failure
Lat raises at 80% max to + and - failure
Lat raises at 40% of above to + and - failure

Biceps
Cycle 2 (Repeat 3 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Barbell curls at 95% max to + and - failure
Barbell curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Barbell curls at 50% of above to + and - failure

Cycle 3 (Repeat 2 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Single arm concentration curls at 95% max to + and - failure
Single arm concentration curls at 50% of above to + and - failure
Single arm concentration curls at 50% of above to + and - failure

Triceps
Cycle 4 (Repeat 4 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Lying barbell extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Close grip bench press w/same weight as above to + and - failure
Lying barbell extensions at 90% max to + and - failure
Close grip bench press w/same weight as above to + and - failure

Cycle 5 (Repeat 2 times, no rest between sets in cycle)
Medium grip press downs at 90% max to + and - failure
Medium grip press downs at 50% of above to + and - failure
Medium grip press downs at 50% of above to + and - failure

Day 7

Diet Day 7: ***Carb intake eat large amounts of high-quality complex carbs and protein consumption, about 2 to 3 grams per kilogram of your lean bodyweight. Caloric intake is at least 2 times your BMR(bodyweight in lbs /2.2 x24)

Rest.

*Sorry for long post.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on November 22, 2020, 02:24:40 PM
Meltdown

🙄

Pathetic Reply.

You can’t handle the Truth.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on November 22, 2020, 02:31:25 PM
Lol I don’t even consider it a sport, funny when other bbers  refer to other bbers as “athletes”

Illumanati is mad he isn’t an “athlete” of any sort, and what he spends his free time in is just a hobby/pageant contest...... never said there was anything wrong with that

I don’t find it to be negative to point out that bbing isn’t a real sport, doesn’t mean I don’t follow working out, being active and living a healthy lifestyle

Nope not angry or mad in the slightest
Just can’t figure why all the verbal negativity
Personally I can’t stand Football, Horse racing, Marathon running & many other “Sports or Pastimes”
The last thing I’d think of doing or want to do is post on those boards constantly about how bad the “Sport”
Is how much drugs they may take & Generally be Negative 👎🏻 I’d thoroughly expect the other board members to Tell Me To Fuck Off.
And they’d be Right to.

Still you carry on being Bitter & Negative 🙄 👍🏻
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pamith on November 22, 2020, 02:52:57 PM
Steroids
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pamith on November 22, 2020, 03:01:10 PM
I met Franco when he was a rising “thing” in bodybuilding. At his best.

Not too tall ... and he was very angry and pissy. His face had a constant expression like he just learned his car was stolen and he smelled a rancid fart at the same time.

He was the classic Angry Little Man.

Good physique, though, even if he is a manlet.
It's the Italian way, we Italians are that way sometimes
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 22, 2020, 04:02:49 PM
It's the Italian way, we Italians are that way sometimes

interesting last 2 posts :)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Fortress on November 22, 2020, 04:03:17 PM
It's the Italian way, we Italians are that way sometimes

Yeah, he just seemed hacked off, even while being friendly with people.

But like I say, he had a really cool physique.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Bevo on November 22, 2020, 04:16:03 PM
🙄

Pathetic Reply.

You can’t handle the Truth.

Quite the opposite, you are the one upset for me saying that bbing isn’t a real sport, I don’t see where I was being negative or bitter

You can be into bbing and working out without following competitive bbing
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pamith on November 22, 2020, 04:28:51 PM
Yeah, he just seemed hacked off, even while being friendly with people.

But like I say, he had a really cool physique.
But, was he sexual?
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: njflex on November 22, 2020, 05:52:03 PM
Shane dimora turned pro at 19
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: illuminati on November 29, 2020, 09:48:12 PM
Quite the opposite, you are the one upset for me saying that bbing isn’t a real sport, I don’t see where I was being negative or bitter

You can be into bbing and working out without following competitive bbing


I have zero concerns about what you think BBing is.
Very true you can into training & BB without any interest in competitive BB

You could also not be so Bitter / Angry/ Negative/ upset about what you believe BB do & do not take.
Concentrate on your own Training & Leave what you don’t like out of it.
Makes you sound / come across very Bitter & Twisted.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Mothballs on November 29, 2020, 10:59:52 PM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=620997.0;attach=696182;image)
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 04:47:20 AM
Lots of young bodybuilders got pro tickets early on.  Genetics show themselves early in the game.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: njflex on November 30, 2020, 07:29:11 AM
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=620997.0;attach=696182;image)
HE looked great dimora..
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: irishdave on November 30, 2020, 07:45:58 AM
It's the Italian way, we Italians are that way sometimes

Yes the italians are small people with even smaller brains. No personalities and awful English. You know you’ve got a country full of retards when they’re in Europe and not an ounce of English between the lot of them.
Ruder than the French

Fuckin Guineas
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: njflex on November 30, 2020, 08:49:24 AM
Yes the italians are small people with even smaller brains. No personalities and awful English. You know you’ve got a country full of retards when they’re in Europe and not an ounce of English between the lot of them.
Ruder than the French

Fuckin Guineas
BASTA,,,,cmon irishdave we can all get along eh :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: epic is back on November 30, 2020, 09:05:15 AM
Dude's genetics must've been literally one in a million :o

is that lonnie teeper?
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 09:35:24 AM
Yes the italians are small people with even smaller brains. No personalities and awful English. You know you’ve got a country full of retards when they’re in Europe and not an ounce of English between the lot of them.
Ruder than the French

Fuckin Guineas
Says the Irish guy. :D
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pamith on November 30, 2020, 10:17:35 AM
Italians (myself included) have great genetics, just look at Lou Ferrigno, Evan Centopani, Franco Columbu, Mike Matarazzo, Paul Demayo, etc
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: irishdave on November 30, 2020, 04:14:43 PM
BASTA,,,,cmon irishdave we can all get along eh :D
I was just trying to get a rise out of him I love Italian food
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: irishdave on November 30, 2020, 04:17:00 PM
Says the Irish guy. :D

The Irish haven’t done too bad for themselves, innocent boy
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: pellius on December 01, 2020, 03:20:38 AM
Lots of young bodybuilders got pro tickets early on.  Genetics show themselves early in the game.

I think it's like that in most sports. Some just have it, most do not. It's just that in bbing it more obvious as it's right before your eyes.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Humble Narcissist on December 01, 2020, 03:51:59 AM
The Irish haven’t done too bad for themselves, innocent boy
The Irish are the bottom of the barrel.  European "n" words.
Title: Re: Was this the most gifted Teenage BB of all time ??
Post by: Griffith on December 02, 2020, 10:36:41 AM
Yes the italians are small people with even smaller brains. No personalities and awful English. You know you’ve got a country full of retards when they’re in Europe and not an ounce of English between the lot of them.
Ruder than the French

Fuckin Guineas

Without Italians you would still be living in your mud hut covered in filthy rags and animal skins.