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Title: Serge Nubret
Post by: mphgrove on November 27, 2020, 06:35:47 AM
Remember this guy? Wish we saw more like this on the Pro stage

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serge_Nubret
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tatoo on November 27, 2020, 07:07:49 AM
should have added more size.. he could have gotten away with it.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: mphgrove on November 27, 2020, 07:14:50 AM
should have added more size.. he could have gotten away with it.

Agree, so symmetrical the additional bulk would be perfect as long as abs remain tight.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: TheShape. on November 27, 2020, 07:21:09 AM
He was literally a getbigger
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2020, 07:34:09 AM
I have a vague memory of Serge training hard for the 1975 Olympia.  Then about month before he was notified he was banned because he competed in a competition outside of the IFBB. I assume he slowed his training and went off the juice. Last minute with the filming of Pumping Iron they realized they just had two tall men in the Olympia and invited him back.  He looked amazing but what would he looked like without the break in training?

On a side note in that 1975 contest in Africa he was one of two guys that used free hand squats in his training routine. The other was small class Mr. Universe winner Wilf Sylvester. 
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 27, 2020, 07:35:47 AM
Parabolan (Negma- France) was a great drug.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: The Scott on November 27, 2020, 07:36:37 AM
Parabolan (Negma- France) was a great drug.
Agree, so symmetrical the additional bulk would be perfect as long as abs remain tight.

Nubret's inspiration was Steve Reeves and it showed.  Serge was handsome man with a physique to match.  Much better than what has been tendered the last few decades.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Hypertrophy on November 27, 2020, 07:50:40 AM
One of the greats. The physiques of the 70's were aesthetically the best I think.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Methyl m1ke on November 27, 2020, 07:59:03 AM
I have a vague memory of Serge training hard for the 1975 Olympia.  Then about month before he was notified he was banned because he competed in a competition outside of the IFBB. I assume he slowed his training and went off the juice. Last minute with the filming of Pumping Iron they realized they just had two tall men in the Olympia and invited him back.  He looked amazing but what would he looked like without the break in training?

On a side note in that 1975 contest in Africa he was one of two guys that used free hand squats in his training routine. The other was small class Mr. Universe winner Wilf Sylvester.

Freehand squats?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2020, 08:28:37 AM
Freehand squats?

Body weight squats without using weights.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Griffith on November 27, 2020, 08:57:51 AM
Body weight squats without using weights.

Do you have any more info on his use of bodyweight squats? Did he do hundreds a day? I know he was wary of thickening his waist so he used the barbell squat with lower weights so this could be a reason.

First time I've heard of a pro bodybuilder using bodyweight squats, though I do know that many (pro) wrestlers do a lot of bodyweight squats as part of their training.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2020, 09:58:53 AM
Do you have any more info on his use of bodyweight squats? Did he do hundreds a day? I know he was wary of thickening his waist so he used the barbell squat with lower weights so this could be a reason.

First time I've heard of a pro bodybuilder using bodyweight squats, though I do know that many (pro) wrestlers do a lot of bodyweight squats as part of their training.

I have the article on Wilf Sylvester buried in my old magazine collection. He said he use to use squats, hacks, leg extensions and leg curls.  For the Universe in 1975 he switched to body weigh squats, leg extensions and leg curls. He said he used 400 reps but he never said how many sets were used

Serge is listed in one of the "Three more Reps" series as using multiple sets of body weight squats.

I'm sure you don't want to hear about my experience but for awhile I was doing 50 ass to grass slow negative bodyweight squats after I trained legs with weights. The pump was unreal. I also feel they contributed to conditioning too. I know in cross fit they are big on the movement but like so many bodyweight stuff they do they cheat to get the reps in under the stop watch. They flop down on the negative as fast as they can and many times go shallow. 

On the topic of using moderate weight for development Pellius wrote on this site there was a guy in his gym that did set after set of front squats with 135 and he had great thighs.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 27, 2020, 09:59:57 AM
Fantastic upper body from the front. 

Sadly a build like this won't even win a state level show nowdays.  They all look like shit.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: funk51 on November 27, 2020, 11:02:25 AM
Fantastic upper body from the front. 

Sadly a build like this won't even win a state level show nowdays.  They all look like shit.
a few other pics
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2020, 11:17:04 AM
He was literally a getbigger
Explain. ???
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 27, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
Explain. ???

Serge Nubret was an actual legit member of Getbig... sometime back in the mid/late 2000's.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pellius on November 27, 2020, 11:53:44 AM
I have the article on Wilf Sylvester buried in my old magazine collection. He said he use to use squats, hacks, leg extensions and leg curls.  For the Universe in 1975 he switched to body weigh squats, leg extensions and leg curls. He said he used 400 reps but he never said how many sets were used

Serge is listed in one of the "Three more Reps" series as using multiple sets of body weight sets.

I'm sure you don't want to hear about my experience but for awhile I was doing 50 ass to grass slow negative bodyweight squats after I trained legs with weights. The pump was unreal. I also feel they contributed to conditioning too. I know in cross fit they are big on the movement but like so many bodyweight stuff they do they cheat to get the reps in under the stop watch. They flop down on the negative as fast as they can and many times go shallow. 

On the topic of using moderate weight for development Pellius wrote on this site there was a guy in his gym that did set after set of front squats with 135 and he had great thighs.

His name was Steve. He was an Asian guy, maybe Okinawan. He just had a 35 lb plate on each side so it was only 115 he would use. Just pumping out those front squats like a machine. I wish I took the time to count the number of reps he did for each set and how many sets he did. Great quads.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 27, 2020, 12:08:40 PM
Serge Nubret was an actual legit member of Getbig... sometime back in the mid/late 2000's.
I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: JDG on November 27, 2020, 02:20:45 PM
His daughter also posted updates (when I believe) he slipped into a coma.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: joswift on November 27, 2020, 02:24:23 PM
His daughter also posted updates (when I believe) she slipped something into his drink

allegedly
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Max on November 27, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
When I was writing for Bodyfitness I had the pleasure of meeting/interviewing Serge shortly before he became sick and passed away.
He was in his 70's and was preparing to guest pose. He was still very sharp and engaged.  An interesting guy who I'd have liked to have spoken to for much longer.

I was sad to hear of his passing. It's over a decade ago now too!
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Max on November 27, 2020, 03:04:59 PM
I asked Serge about pumping iron and how small a part he played in it.
He explained he had been filmed for more of the movie but at the time was making films in France and was a known actor.  He would have done pumping iron for free as he knew it was an independent film, but was so insulted by the amount they offered to pay him he told them to pull his footage from the film.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Fortress on November 27, 2020, 03:13:27 PM
Made phag porn.

Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2020, 03:49:41 PM
Made phag porn.

True?  So he joins the long list of famous bodybuilders.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 27, 2020, 05:35:48 PM
I have the article on Wilf Sylvester buried in my old magazine collection. He said he use to use squats, hacks, leg extensions and leg curls.  For the Universe in 1975 he switched to body weigh squats, leg extensions and leg curls. He said he used 400 reps but he never said how many sets were used

Serge is listed in one of the "Three more Reps" series as using multiple sets of body weight squats.

I'm sure you don't want to hear about my experience but for awhile I was doing 50 ass to grass slow negative bodyweight squats after I trained legs with weights. The pump was unreal. I also feel they contributed to conditioning too. I know in cross fit they are big on the movement but like so many bodyweight stuff they do they cheat to get the reps in under the stop watch. They flop down on the negative as fast as they can and many times go shallow. 

On the topic of using moderate weight for development Pellius wrote on this site there was a guy in his gym that did set after set of front squats with 135 and he had great thighs.

very solid post

thank you
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2020, 03:31:34 AM
His daughter also posted updates (when I believe) he slipped into a coma.
Didn't his girlfriend poison him?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: IroNat on November 28, 2020, 04:58:18 AM
Pumping Iron the movie was scripted.

All BS to make a movie.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Never1AShow on November 28, 2020, 05:04:34 AM
Body weight squats without using weights.

What'd he do, like 1000 per set?  Not efficient or effective.  Serge used to train for hours and hours at the old Block's gym down in Placentia on the early 90s.  He and Kenny (?) something and I think Rory Leidlemeyer did these real high rep workouts.  Not sure how Serge paid his bills.  Not sure he had anywhere else to go.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2020, 05:50:23 AM
What'd he do, like 1000 per set?  Not efficient or effective. Serge used to train for hours and hours at the old Block's gym down in Placentia on the early 90s.  He and Kenny (?) something and I think Rory Leidlemeyer did these real high rep workouts.  Not sure how Serge paid his bills.  Not sure he had anywhere else to go.

Seemed to have worked for him?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: funk51 on November 28, 2020, 05:57:44 AM
His name was Steve. He was an Asian guy, maybe Okinawan. He just had a 35 lb plate on each side so it was only 115 he would use. Just pumping out those front squats like a machine. I wish I took the time to count the number of reps he did for each set and how many sets he did. Great quads.
   was that the iron man article in the 60's ?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 28, 2020, 06:30:18 AM
Made phag porn.

Yep.  Heard it was back in France where he first started.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: IroNat on November 28, 2020, 06:43:16 AM
   was that the iron man article in the 60's ?

Funk, can you post the full article?  Would like to read it.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2020, 10:41:26 AM
What'd he do, like 1000 per set?  Not efficient or effective.  Serge used to train for hours and hours at the old Block's gym down in Placentia on the early 90s.  He and Kenny (?) something and I think Rory Leidlemeyer did these real high rep workouts.  Not sure how Serge paid his bills.  Not sure he had anywhere else to go.
Most bodybuilders would struggle to do 50.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 28, 2020, 10:59:53 AM
I heard his "diet" for shows consisted of eating one 12 ounce steak per day.  Nothing else.  No other protein, no other carbs or fat.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2020, 11:10:13 AM
I heard his "diet" for shows consisted of eating one 12 ounce steak per day.  Nothing else.  No other protein, no other carbs or fat.
Probably true.  Mentzer ate 800 calories a day before a contest.  This is probably why they looked so much better in photos on the beach or gym than they did on contest day.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: US MUSL on November 28, 2020, 11:27:35 AM
I heard his "diet" for shows consisted of eating one 12 ounce steak per day.  Nothing else.  No other protein, no other carbs or fat.

I've also read that Serge ate three pounds of horse meat a day.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Griffith on November 28, 2020, 11:41:35 AM
I've also read that Serge ate three pounds of horse meat a day.

Correct. He posted on Ironage and said he only ate once a day and it was always horse meat.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 28, 2020, 11:50:51 AM
Correct. He posted on Ironage and said he only ate once a day and it was always horse meat.
Why not just eat dog food?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: The Scott on November 28, 2020, 11:55:50 AM
Why not just eat dog food?

 ;D
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: a_pupil on November 28, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
Made phag porn.

No he never. Serge was the king of Europe. He made was making decent money before he blew it.

It's kind of depressing looking back at the golden era guys. The ifbb empire was built off of that small circle, but they got absolutely played by the weiders.

How much would it have hurt the Weider bros to put 100k in a pension account for someone like serge or Zane.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: The Scott on November 28, 2020, 12:53:25 PM
Made phag porn.

I had some guys that trained up at Gold's tell me it was more a "soft core" hetero porn-ish scene in some foreign (non-Amurican) film but the truth was it was simply Weider being Weider, i.e., a whole ass.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pellius on November 28, 2020, 12:58:06 PM
   was that the iron man article in the 60's ?

I don't understand your question.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: funk51 on November 28, 2020, 01:24:51 PM
I don't understand your question.
                 sorry i was replying to the guy you were replying to about wilf sylvester. sorry.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: funk51 on November 28, 2020, 01:29:00 PM
Funk, can you post the full article?  Would like to read it.
Thanks!
   here's the end of it. my scanners been out of commission for almost a year. so i can't do the rest of it.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: mphgrove on November 28, 2020, 02:24:44 PM
Correct. He posted on Ironage and said he only ate once a day and it was always horse meat.

They eat horse meat in France, but don’t think they do much any more other than out in the boondocks. There was a poison story with the family (sad) but I doubt the early career gay porn story. Never heard anything along those lines.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 28, 2020, 02:29:20 PM
Most bodybuilders would struggle to do 50.

yes..... so I did some body squats today. harder then you think
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 28, 2020, 02:34:16 PM
Probably true.  Mentzer ate 800 calories a day before a contest.  This is probably why they looked so much better in photos on the beach or gym than they did on contest day.

interesting any reading on this??
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 28, 2020, 05:17:10 PM
Probably true.  Mentzer ate 800 calories a day before a contest.  This is probably why they looked so much better in photos on the beach or gym than they did on contest day.

did you think they look "flat" on stage vs beach shots?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tatoo on November 28, 2020, 06:22:36 PM
yes..... so I did some body squats today. harder then you think

ive done sissy squats every leg workout for the last 20 years... theyre just as brutal now as they were then.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 28, 2020, 06:59:58 PM
I heard his "diet" for shows consisted of eating one 12 ounce steak per day.  Nothing else.  No other protein, no other carbs or fat.

^^
ZANE used to do this too, basically Steak and lots of Winstrols and Thyroid!!!
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Disgusted on November 28, 2020, 09:49:16 PM
^^
ZANE used to do this too, basically Steak and lots of Winstrols and Thyroid!!!

Zane used Armour thyroid.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Thespritz0 on November 28, 2020, 09:52:52 PM
Zane used Armour thyroid.

^^
Yes, I heard this as well... When dieting it was a huge steak every day plus these added Primo, Winstrol, Armour Thyroid...
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pkaz on November 28, 2020, 11:01:57 PM
I met Serge when he was training at Brocks gym in Orange County in the very early 80s. He was incredible. 6 sets x 12 reps on everything except abs. Personally i think he was one of the best at that time...
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pamith on November 28, 2020, 11:57:07 PM
He looked amazing, no doubt, but Arnold was bigger and better
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: a_pupil on November 29, 2020, 07:41:39 AM
I met Serge when he was training at Brocks gym in Orange County in the very early 80s. He was incredible. 6 sets x 12 reps on everything except abs. Personally i think he was one of the best at that time...

How long would he spend in the gym and what weights was he using?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Taffin on November 29, 2020, 08:05:52 AM
   here's the end of it. my scanners been out of commission for almost a year. so i can't do the rest of it.

That's a great article - thanks for posting Funk

I love the fact that he "drinks 11/2 pints of milk a day, which he finds sufficient for his own particular needs"

But "as for tissue drugs, he thinks they are greatly overrated and would never risk taking them himself," stating "one never really knows what unpleasant after-effects there might be"

Simpler times... :)

Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 29, 2020, 09:31:50 AM
^^
ZANE used to do this too, basically Steak and lots of Winstrols and Thyroid!!!

interesting

both Zane and Serge did look amazing on stage!!
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 29, 2020, 10:27:09 AM
^^
Yes, I heard this as well... When dieting it was a huge steak every day plus these added Primo, Winstrol, Armour Thyroid...
Just the finishing touch.  That and A1 sauce.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pamith on November 29, 2020, 12:12:06 PM
That's a great article - thanks for posting Funk

I love the fact that he "drinks 11/2 pints of milk a day, which he finds sufficient for his own particular needs"

But "as for tissue drugs, he thinks they are greatly overrated and would never risk taking them himself," stating "one never really knows what unpleasant after-effects there might be"

Simpler times... :)
So Nubret was natty??
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 29, 2020, 12:19:05 PM
How long would he spend in the gym and what weights was he using?

Heard one eyewitness account that he was using 80lbs for the press behind the neck.  If he was doing 6 x 12 reps with a short rest then the 80lbs must have been really heavy when he got close to his 72th rep. 
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 29, 2020, 02:00:56 PM
I met Serge when he was training at Brocks gym in Orange County in the very early 80s. He was incredible. 6 sets x 12 reps on everything except abs. Personally i think he was one of the best at that time...

But was it one exercise per body part or multiple exercises - each for 6 x 12?
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Taffin on November 29, 2020, 04:46:23 PM
So Nubret was natty??

No dude, Funk's article was about a Brit from the '60/70s - Wilf Sylvester - he was mentioned because of the freehand squats thing coming up

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.LFs3qlebPAoJR4oXOK3yQQHaK2%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: pamith on November 29, 2020, 05:15:03 PM
No dude, Funk's article was about a Brit from the '60/70s - Wilf Sylvester - he was mentioned because of the freehand squats thing coming up

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.LFs3qlebPAoJR4oXOK3yQQHaK2%26pid%3DApi&f=1)
Great physique, ty my nikka
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: tres_taco_combo on November 29, 2020, 05:39:36 PM
Great physique, ty my nikka

better than guys today
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 29, 2020, 05:48:37 PM
But was it one exercise per body part or multiple exercises - each for 6 x 12?

Multiple.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 29, 2020, 05:49:58 PM
No dude, Funk's article was about a Brit from the '60/70s - Wilf Sylvester - he was mentioned because of the freehand squats thing coming up

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.LFs3qlebPAoJR4oXOK3yQQHaK2%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

The article where he talked about free hand squats was a Weider mag. I know I have it but I'm not about to look for it in my basement.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: a_pupil on November 30, 2020, 04:41:53 AM
No dude, Funk's article was about a Brit from the '60/70s - Wilf Sylvester - he was mentioned because of the freehand squats thing coming up

(http://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.LFs3qlebPAoJR4oXOK3yQQHaK2%26pid%3DApi&f=1)

he's got a beautiful body mayn.

the more I hear about old school lifters, bruddas in the pen, and gymnasts (even the little kids are jacked), the more I think that high volume, high frequency, daily work is the most natural way of working out.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: Humble Narcissist on November 30, 2020, 04:44:50 AM
he's got a beautiful body mayn.

the more I hear about old school lifters, bruddas in the pen, and gymnasts (even the little kids are jacked), the more I think that high volume, high frequency, daily work is the most natural way of working out.
It is, but it takes a lot of time.  Much easier to convince people to work out once or twice a week.
Title: Re: Serge Nubret
Post by: IroNat on November 30, 2020, 04:54:16 AM
That's a great article - thanks for posting Funk

I love the fact that he "drinks 11/2 pints of milk a day, which he finds sufficient for his own particular needs"

But "as for tissue drugs, he thinks they are greatly overrated and would never risk taking them himself," stating "one never really knows what unpleasant after-effects there might be"

Simpler times... :)



BS too.