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Big Ramy for the win! But, they won't give it to him.
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Big ramy is destroying phil in every pose in those pics except the rear double bi (but he might not have fully completed the pose there).
More size, better aesthetics, healthier looking.
He'll still get robbed and the chickster etc will be saying he doesn't bring a complete package etc.
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Choopan might be beating Curry on the back poses
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Curry's side chest is maximally gay. Rami's, however, is excellent. Among the best ever.
Hadi has an excellent back, and an extremely good front lat spread. Weird shoulder and tricep structure, though.
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Look at Ramys legs from the side, they're literally twice as big and conditioned as everyone else's :o
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Brandon wins Mr. Upperbody Olympia
But I guess Ramy to win overall.
other than that all of them have big guts. But I guess that goes with being that big...
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If Phil wins there will be a riot.
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thanks for posting
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Big ramy makes you want to up the dose and hit the gym.
that's the feeling mr olympia should be giving you.
he leads the way.
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c section pouch :-X
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If Phil wins there will be a riot.
U think so? But he said at the press conference that he's at his best ever :-X :-X
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Big Ramy for the win! But, they won't give it to him.
Half of his back just isn't there. It's not underdeveloped, it doesn't exist. Neither do his calves or hamstrings. Abs and Thi's is atrocious. Quads look like clown pants for legs. No striations or feathering of any kind.
You would give a sandow to this guy?
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Heath is not at his best but bbing comes down to who has the fewest flaws and Heath is definitely leading at least in these shots.
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I do not doubt Heath’s ability to show up dramatically improved on Saturday night.
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Did everyone see Phil mocking Brandon's hamstrings when they turned to the back?
When they turned back to the front, Brandon should've given his stomach a pat and have asked him when the baby is due.
Ramy has got this in the bag and hopefully, Brandon in second (but I doubt it, can't imagine they will give 7x Mr O third place).
Sit tight thong fans, we are witnessing Phil's retirement right here.
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Half of his back just isn't there. It's not underdeveloped, it doesn't exist. Neither do his calves or hamstrings. Abs and Thi's is atrocious. Quads look like clown pants for legs. No striations or feathering of any kind.
You would give a sandow to this guy?
You think Phil has better legs? ???
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Look at Ramys legs from the side, they're literally twice as big and conditioned as everyone else's :o
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Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
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Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
Ramy has the most striated thighs of any of them.
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Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
You blind?
Hadi's triceps look like they've got synthol in them, especially in that side chest. Rami doesn't look like he's touched the stuff.
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size wins - I am going with Ramy ;D
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You think Phil has better legs? ???
Define "better." Personally Heath's legs look significantly more in tune with Phil's physique overall. Ramy is just muscle for the sake of muscle in every direction. Ruhl was same size with better balance and deep cuts and striations.
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Ramy has the most striated thighs of any of them.
When the Mr. Quadriceps Olympia rolls around Ramy will die undefeated for sure.
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Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
Yes Ramy's quads are so sweeped it looks fake. But I dont think there is oil doesn't look like that. He has deep cuts etc in them.
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You blind?
Hadi's triceps look like they've got synthol in them, especially in that side chest. Rami doesn't look like he's touched the stuff.
Hadis triceps and side delts are suspicious imo. I'm not a synthol expert. Maybe it's the effects of insulin blurring definition I'm seeing.
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Half of his back just isn't there. It's not underdeveloped, it doesn't exist. Neither do his calves or hamstrings.
Non-existent hams indeed. I'm out, hard to discuss BB with Ray Charles. ;D
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These dudes are midgets.
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Yes Ramy's quads are so sweeped it looks fake. But I dont think there is oil doesn't look like that. He has deep cuts etc in them.
I never implied Ramy used synthol in his quads. I was leaning more towards his chest and delts maybe arms. Not everyone who uses it looks as obvious as Ernie Taylor.
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I never implied Ramy used synthol in his quads. I was leaning more towards his chest and delts maybe arms. Not everyone who uses it looks as obvious as Ernie Taylor.
Maybe.
Hadi definately oiled his delts. The mid delt head is so obvious.
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These dudes are midgets.
I was thinking the same thing. Curry is noticeably shorter than Heath.
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Non-existent hams indeed. I'm out, hard to discuss BB with Ray Charles. ;D
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No shit, I don't know what Mike is looking at.
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I think Phil is winning in side Tri and side chest and holding his own in most muscular but the rest he isn’t winning in my eyes.Kind of a disappointment considering his talking at the competitors meeting.I expected him to look nasty.
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Non-existent hams indeed. I'm out, hard to discuss BB with Ray Charles. ;D
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He looks like a brown Ronnie Coleman kind of in that one picture. Have you seen the rest or is that too much effort?
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Ramy won this but in a subjective sport he will lose to Heath. You could ask someone that has no interest in bodybuilding who's the best and they would say Ramy.
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Yes Ramy's quads are so sweeped it looks fake. But I dont think there is oil doesn't look like that. He has deep cuts etc in them.
IMO the thighs are full of various enhancements. Gear, Synthol and a ton of Hyaluronic acid. There is also obvious damage to one thigh from injections, a divot, a hole that he didn't have before.
Enlarge to see the thigh
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Phil looks 3rd or 4th in my book.
Brandon 1 Ramy 2.
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Big ramy is destroying phil in every pose in those pics except the rear double bi (but he might not have fully completed the pose there).
More size, better aesthetics, healthier looking.
He'll still get robbed and the chickster etc will be saying he doesn't bring a complete package etc.
Not better aesthetics than several, his too big non-detailed legs and overall blocky look
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Ugly physiques on all these guys.
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Ugly physiques on all these guys.
Bonac has gyno. Hadi looks like he has oil in the delts.
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Not better aesthetics than several, his too big non-detailed legs and overall blocky look
his waist is in proportion to his muscles, so I don't see the blockiness.
he beats the comp on legs.
his torso is levels above philsulin's, who has wonky pecs and his abs are destroyed because they couldn't handle his slin + hgh dosages.
Only real weakness is the lower mid back. he needs to work on his posing to lean back more in the back double bicep to hide it.
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Simply put, for a variety of reasons, the O has gone to shit.
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Phil looks 3rd or 4th in my book.
Brandon 1 Ramy 2.
Can you elaborate on that? IMO:
[1] Big Ramy = new "Mister Olumbia."
[2] Phil.
[3] Brandon.
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This Phil placed 2nd to Kai
Hes a million miles away form that now
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IMO the thighs are full of various enhancements. Gear, Synthol and a ton of Hyaluronic acid. There is also obvious damage to one thigh from injections, a divot, a hole that he didn't have before.
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That doesn't make sense , I could be wrong ,but bodybuilders usually try to enhance their weakest body parts not their strongest .
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IMO the thighs are full of various enhancements. Gear, Synthol and a ton of Hyaluronic acid. There is also obvious damage to one thigh from injections, a divot, a hole that he didn't have before.
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Paul Viz was on Fouad's podcast and is certain they inject synthol all up and down Ramya quad sweep. How fucking painful would that be?! Wow
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This Phil placed 2nd to Kai
Hes a million miles away form that now
I think 2011 was his best year
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1 Ramy
2 Hadi
3 Curry
4 Cheath
They’ll probably give it to Heath though ::)
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That ham pic of Ramy is very Coleman-esque.
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That doesn't make sense , I could be wrong ,but bodybuilders usually try to enhance their weakest body parts not their strongest .
Many of the things don't make sense necessarily. Not saying wnhancing the quads does or doesn't make sense, there's different ways of looking at it. Putting enhancements in already huge bodyparts is "easier" as it doesn't look as obvious - like here, many can't spot it but it's obvious to me and many others. Try inflating weak rear delts or small biceps with a lot of oil and it's much more obvious.
Regarding Ramy's quads, even Palumbo said it looks like there's stuff in there and that he heard it's something "water based" that they use in Kuwait, which to me means hyaluronic acid. It was that obvious.
If Heath puts stuff deep in his arms, as I'm sure he has done, no one can tell necessarily.
People were saying how come Ernie Taylor put so much in his triceps, how come not in other parts like calves or chest? That means he didn't put oil in his triceps, would be idiotic. Idiotic or not, that's exactly what he did.
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1 Ramy
2 Hadi
3 Curry
4 Cheath
They’ll probably give it to Heath though ::)
I have it this way too. Not a fan of any physique up there, but what can you do? 2020 is a shitty year, with an extra shitty Olympia.
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I think 2011 was his best year
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2012 looks ever so slightly better to me there, but it's so similar those could've been taken at the same show.
Slightly fuller in 2012 with zero loss in conditioning.
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Did everyone see Phil mocking Brandon's hamstrings when they turned to the back?
When they turned back to the front, Brandon should've given his stomach a pat and have asked him when the baby is due.
Ramy has got this in the bag and hopefully, Brandon in second (but I doubt it, can't imagine they will give 7x Mr O third place).
Sit tight thong fans, we are witnessing Phil's retirement right here.
Curry is winning
Where is midget man bun ?
Ramy thighs ruin it
There is a thing called symmetry
Most you you don’t know that concept
Curry has a taper more dramatic than all
But his skin isn’t doing him any favors
Curry vs Heath
Curry
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I think. I have:
1 Ramy
2 Heath
3 Curry
As much as I don't like Heath I think he gets a slight edge over Curry due to legs and overall size.
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They all look hideous, amateurs look better.
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Ramy thighs ruin it
There is a thing called symmetry
Most you you don’t know that concept
It might be that you don't understand the concept.
Symmetry
Proportion
Balance
What are the differences in these terms?
Then you have something called aesthetics, which doesn't always have much to do with those other terms. People talk about symmetry but really mean aesthetics. A trashcan can be symmetrical and usually is.
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I have it this way too. Not a fan of any physique up there, but what can you do? 2020 is a shitty year, with an extra shitty Olympia.
I think the only physiques I actually like are Regan Grimes and that Korean dude!
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They all look hideous, amateurs look better.
Curry looks great as far as Open goes. The Classic guys look insane. That's what bodybulding should be
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Good to see people arguing about oiled up naked men instead of the other topic that has plagued this board for months now! I have to go with Ramy. He looks bigger and more impressive to me in every shot save for maybe the back double bi. Even if Ramy doesn't beat Phil in that shot, Choopan sure is.
1 Ramy
2 Choopan
3 Heath
4 Curry
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Good to see people arguing about oiled up naked men instead of the other topic that has plagued this board for months now! I have to go with Ramy. He looks bigger and more impressive to me in every shot save for maybe the back double bi. Even if Ramy doesn't beat Phil in that shot, Choopan sure is.
1 Ramy
2 Choopan
3 Heath
4 Curry
Hadi looks so much harder than anyone else up there. His shoulders just look too oiled up for me otherwise I think he's the best
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1 Ramy
2 Hadi
3 Curry
4 Cheath
They’ll probably give it to Heath though ::)
X2
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I think the only physiques I actually like are Regan Grimes and that Korean dude!
I thought the Korean dude didn't look too bad either but he has some mutant shit happening to his gut. Like one of his abs is out of all proportion to the others.
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2012 looks ever so slightly better to me there, but it's so similar those could've been taken at the same show.
Slightly fuller in 2012 with zero loss in conditioning.
I think he was sharper in 2011, abs , obliques ,glutes ......
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Phil comes across as a douche bag. That thing w curry was so petty.
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I think the only physiques I actually like are Regan Grimes and that Korean dude!
He is qualified for next year. A little more size in the right places and he should rise quickly.
Phil comes across as a douche bag. That thing w curry was so petty.
Yep and all the while sweating and out of breath. Could not even hold an ab pose.
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IMO the thighs are full of various enhancements. Gear, Synthol and a ton of Hyaluronic acid. There is also obvious damage to one thigh from injections, a divot, a hole that he didn't have before.
Enlarge to see the thigh
Possible. Those extreme sweeps do look suspicious.
Martin Kjellström did oil in his outer quads I think and he got pockets/loss of muscle in his quads eventually aswell. I think with time the oil will eat away on muscle.
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In that pic Hadi & Ramy for top 2.
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Phil comes across as a douche bag. That thing w curry was so petty.
It's quite rich for Heath to do something like that. I'm sure he still remembers this scene from 2018:
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1 Ramy
2 Hadi
3 Curry
4 Cheath
They’ll probably give it to Heath though ::)
This x2
No not heath definitely not heath
Though they cheated Kamal out of 1st place.
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I can't imagine Ramy not winning, but if bullshit politics get involved, he might get 2nd due to "needing to pay his dues".
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Possible. Those extreme sweeps do look suspicious.
Martin Kjellström did oil in his outer quads I think and he got pockets/loss of muscle in his quads eventually aswell. I think with time the oil will eat away on muscle.
Martin's apparently in the hospital, rumors at the gym said "heart" but that's only rumors.
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Martin's apparently in the hospital, rumors at the gym said "heart" but that's only rumors.
Can't say I'm suprised. It's how alot of guys trying to "stay huge" in their 50's ends up.
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1 Brandon
2 Phil
3 Hadi
4 Ramy
5 Bonac
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1. Ramy, 2. Ramy, 3. Ramy and 4. Ramy. No comparison.
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Half of his back just isn't there. It's not underdeveloped, it doesn't exist. Neither do his calves or hamstrings. Abs and Thi's is atrocious. Quads look like clown pants for legs. No striations or feathering of any kind.
You would give a sandow to this guy?
Sometimes you make a post that is totally off. This one takes the cake. Look at the pictures again. He has the biggest calves of the top six on stage. You can argue his quads are too big, but no striations? And his hams are "nonexistent"? Even Aceto commented on how outrageous his hams and quads looked in the side chest. And you're someone who thinks that it is Brandon that would win. The one that everybody agrees lack overall leg development.
You really hurt your credibility when you make these kinds of post.
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Look at Ramys legs from the side, they're literally twice as big and conditioned as everyone else's :o
(https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131985316_3904999246201667_2311761846243007910_o.jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=leWxy_oWK4YAX-9QEPs&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=95d04cc513bb234cb7e505aeeacb3e5c&oe=60044410)
According to Methyl Mike they are "nonexistent".
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Ramy’s rear double biceps pose let’s him down badly - His one major weak shot the others all beat him.
Hadi is prob best in that shot & as an overall physique (Funky Delt’s & all) he’s really tough to beat.
At least it’s a close contest this year & a new Mr O is a Definite possibility.
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Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
What's funny is how bias against Ramy you are. Sit down, take a deep breath, and then literally count the number of cuts and striations in Ramy's quads versus Hadi. And you really think that Ramy uses Synthol in his quads? Really? Do you know anything about site enhancement and why you can't use them successfully in large muscle groups like quads and lats?
You're part of the sad generation that thinks that no one can achieve anything without some magic potion and artificial enhancement. You no doubt would have accused Arnold of of using oil in his biceps if he were competing today.
When I was a kid and we saw someone making a lot of progress we would ask them what they were doing? With your generation it's, "what are you taking?"
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Ramy has the most striated thighs of any of them.
It's amazing how he lets his bias totally blind him. It's not even close.
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The elephant in the room - Do Ramy and Hadi get lower placings because they are Arabs? In the past, I'd say there was a good possibility, but the Middle East, India, etc.... are now the hot beds of open class bodybuilding. I think it doesn't matter anymore.
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Non-existent hams indeed. I'm out, hard to discuss BB with Ray Charles. ;D
(https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131953763_1105072773272701_5759945328584698765_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=2&_nc_sid=dbeb18&_nc_ohc=72fnecF-S7MAX_PWztn&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=d5973aa5b4edb4371e1f32bed32f2770&oe=60030F60)
LOL! I like Mike but in this one, it truly is astounding how so far off he is. There are objective criteria you can use to evaluate. Just count the number of cuts and striations.
I really would like to see things through Mike's eyes for a few minutes just to wonder where this staggering delusion comes from.
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IMO the thighs are full of various enhancements. Gear, Synthol and a ton of Hyaluronic acid. There is also obvious damage to one thigh from injections, a divot, a hole that he didn't have before.
Enlarge to see the thigh
Why would he use site enhancement on a body part that has been criticized for being too large? It reminds of how Ruhl was accused of using oil in his bis but not his tris when it was his tris that needed it.
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That doesn't make sense , I could be wrong ,but bodybuilders usually try to enhance their weakest body parts not their strongest .
EXACTLY!
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What time are the finals please?
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What's funny is how bias against Ramy you are. Sit down, take a deep breath, and then literally count the number of cuts and striations in Ramy's quads versus Hadi. And you really think that Ramy uses Synthol in his quads? Really? Do you know anything about site enhancement and why you can't use them successfully in large muscle groups like quads and lats?
You're part of the sad generation that thinks that no one can achieve anything without some magic potion and artificial enhancement. You no doubt would have accused Arnold of of using oil in his biceps if he were competing today.
When I was a kid and we saw someone making a lot of progress we would ask them what they were doing? With your generation it's, "what are you taking?"
Good points & Well stated 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Good points & Well stated 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
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Good points & Well stated 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have Ramy and Brandon close for 1. Phil’s and hadi battling for 3 and akim maybe 4
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Ramy is in shape and has overwhelming mass over the rest in a way Coleman,Yates and Haney in there time.curry is usual blurry curry good shape but not conditioned last year he won it some how.choopan looks good has ton muscle and carved .Heath is a year off stage and it shows ,he lost something thatT even with modern chemistry he couldn’t get it back his old freak factor.he doesn’t look bad per se just less version of his reign look.
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Why would he use site enhancement on a body part that has been criticized for being too large? It reminds of how Ruhl was accused of using oil in his bis but not his tris when it was his tris that needed it.
There are lots of reasons, some perhaps stupid, some perhaps not. And Ruhl's biceps were extremely oil enhanced. Most likely he attempted to enhance the tris too but they didn't accept the oil. But he kept shooting the biceps anyway.
I don't think Ramy's legs are too big necessarily, it adds to the overwhelming impact. Just like Tom Platz's legs weren't too big. Really, no bodypart can be too big imo, trying to downsize something to improve balance always makes the bb worse imo, they just end up less impressive and less freaky. You xan critisize oil use if it looks too unnatural but if it looks like real muscle it can never be too much, never seen it. Before oil, can you name one bodybuilder who had a too-developed muscle?
Nearly every expert on bb agrees that Ramy shoots up his quads. There's also inside info guys like Palumbo heard, that he is shooting them with Hya injects.
You can use them on big bodyparts too. Dusty Hanshaw said oil in quads looks extra awesome if it "takes" but he couldn't do it.
BTW, the biggest oil abuser at the Olympia is Shaun Clarida, this guy took it to an extreme with oil. Though he gets away with it, still looks good.
Kamal had also upped the oil intake.
Clarida, shock full of oil:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CI_VOwyhns2/?igshid=2phzwxoxioab
Ruhl
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What's funny is how bias against Ramy you are. Sit down, take a deep breath, and then literally count the number of cuts and striations in Ramy's quads versus Hadi. And you really think that Ramy uses Synthol in his quads? Really? Do you know anything about site enhancement and why you can't use them successfully in large muscle groups like quads and lats?
You're part of the sad generation that thinks that no one can achieve anything without some magic potion and artificial enhancement. You no doubt would have accused Arnold of of using oil in his biceps if he were competing today.
When I was a kid and we saw someone making a lot of progress we would ask them what they were doing? With your generation it's, "what are you taking?"
Pullius Mike is obviously wrong about Ramy but let’s not act like all of these guys aren’t walking chemistry sets. Even Arnold was for his time. Would any of these pros be on stage without drugs and artificial enhancement?
The fact that many bb’s have commented on what they’ve done drug wise is probably why Mike made his comments. His generation was exposed to the reality of pro bodybuilding.
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Sometimes you make a post that is totally off. This one takes the cake. Look at the pictures again. He has the biggest calves of the top six on stage. You can argue his quads are too big, but no striations? And his hams are "nonexistent"? Even Aceto commented on how outrageous his hams and quads looked in the side chest. And you're someone who thinks that it is Brandon that would win. The one that everybody agrees lack overall leg development.
You really hurt your credibility when you make these kinds of post.
First of all fuck off fuck face second of all obvious to me and should be to you is when I say Ramy has no calves or hans i am speaking of their lack of size relative to his quads and the rest of his body. Are you always an idiot or does it just seem like you are because I just woke up?
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According to Methyl Mike they are "nonexistent".
I never said his legs were nonexistent asshole. Learn to read before you think and think before you speak.
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What's funny is how bias against Ramy you are. Sit down, take a deep breath, and then literally count the number of cuts and striations in Ramy's quads versus Hadi. And you really think that Ramy uses Synthol in his quads? Really? Do you know anything about site enhancement and why you can't use them successfully in large muscle groups like quads and lats?
You're part of the sad generation that thinks that no one can achieve anything without some magic potion and artificial enhancement. You no doubt would have accused Arnold of of using oil in his biceps if he were competing today.
When I was a kid and we saw someone making a lot of progress we would ask them what they were doing? With your generation it's, "what are you taking?"
Please point out the post where I say Ramy has synthol in his quads kthanx and I am not biased against Ramy where do you come up with this shit? I'd love for him to win the only bber of the four I personally don't like is Heath. I give objective opinions based on what I see.
Oh and fuck off
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Phil could win
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Phil could win
it would make 2020 complete
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Phil could win
Would be highway robbery. He is in 3 or 4 by my estimation.
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if ramy was black and not muslim he would of won years ago :D
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Would be highway robbery. He is in 3 or 4 by my estimation.
Yeah but he was always in the center call out, so unless Curry is completely out of it Phil is looking like he is top 2.
:/
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Would be highway robbery. He is in 3 or 4 by my estimation.
The thing is, Heath has perfect proportions, Ramy is unaesthetic and Heath is better than Curry
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The thing is, Heath has perfect proportions, Ramy is unaesthetic and Heath is better than Curry
Come on now. Go look again. Curry owned phil all over the place. Phil was making a joke about curry hams - go back and look again.
Phil was weak other than the back double bi. The back double bi I think he owned that shot. That’s it.
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I think he was sharper in 2011, abs , obliques ,glutes ......
(http://www.foropesas.com.ar/attachments3/image_1349018714350.jpg)
(http://www.foropesas.com.ar/attachments3/image_1349018711414.jpg)
(https://musclemecca.com/imported-images/2012/09/qZTHi-1.jpg)
I was thinking the same thing. He is a tad fuller in 2012 but sharper in 2011. I don't like that glazed over look in the FLS in that 2012 shot but it could be just the shot and he wasn't tensing his abs at the time but the second comparison you just showed sealed the deal.
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Phil always looked like shit, in my opinion. Here's the prejudging:
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Pullius Mike is obviously wrong about Ramy but let’s not act like all of these guys aren’t walking chemistry sets. Even Arnold was for his time. Would any of these pros be on stage without drugs and artificial enhancement?
The fact that many bb’s have commented on what they’ve done drug wise is probably why Mike made his comments. His generation was exposed to the reality of pro bodybuilding.
I don't mean steroids and peptides. Those build real muscle and still require proper nutrition and hard training. I was talking more about oil and implants.
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First of all fuck off fuck face second of all obvious to me and should be to you is when I say Ramy has no calves or hans i am speaking of their lack of size relative to his quads and the rest of his body. Are you always an idiot or does it just seem like you are because I just woke up?
Typical. I disagree and back up my arguments with evidence. You, typically, have another one of your many meltdowns and immediately start with the personal insults. It really makes you mad that someone disagrees with you? And not just me, but literally the majority of the bbing fans as well as all the top names and gurus in the industry, people who make their living on this shit, and, oh, and not to mention, the judges.
Instead of acting like an adult and maybe reexamine why the rest of the world disagrees with you, you throw a little hissy fit and a tantrum.
Though some, maybe many, might disagree with the degree of my assessment, no one thinks it is idiotic. You on the other hand have taken your bias to such an extent that no one really takes you seriously.
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I never said his legs were nonexistent asshole. Learn to read before you think and think before you speak.
If you were able to pay attention in your meltdown state of mind, we were referring to the hams. And if Ramy's abs are "nonexistent" what are Phil's and Brandon's. Ramy's abs are always there even when relaxed.
I can see this has been a very traumatic experience for you. I hope you don't resort to more rec drugs as this has already taken too much a toll in your life.
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Please point out the post where I say Ramy has synthol in his quads kthanx and I am not biased against Ramy where do you come up with this shit? I'd love for him to win the only bber of the four I personally don't like is Heath. I give objective opinions based on what I see.
Oh and fuck off
The implication was quite clear. "Objective opinions"? LOL, OK champ.
"Oh and fuck off"? U mad bro? I can't see I really hit a nerve with you. A lot of people seem to hit a nerve with you. You are beside yourself with anger because someone doesn't agree with in regard to a bodybuilder. A man who poses near-naked on a stage. It never takes much to set you off. Have some perspective in life. You still have the mind of a child.
Look at Ramys legs from the side, they're literally twice as big and conditioned as everyone else's :o
Funny cuz as you said that my eyes drifted to the left and it would appear Choopan is signififantly more conditioned plus his body has actual STRIATIONS in it. Ramy probably used a shit ton of synthol to get his size and it's coming back to haunt him. Lack of feathering / striations is a dead giveaway.
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The thing is, Heath has perfect proportions, Ramy is unaesthetic and Heath is better than Curry
What? The guy is cursed with narrow clavicles which really hurts him. Especially in the chest. He has done a lot to make up for it though and he was really something in his early years.
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2011 Phil was something else, I believe that was his best showing, could be wrong. But like many thong warriors he’s hit his peak a long time ago, it’s all downhill from now. Age, body is getting worn out at this point, just like Jay and Ronnie before him, Phil doesn’t have much left and don’t think he’ll ever win an Olympia again. Maybe stick to smaller shows or retire before his physique starts to show even more regression
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I think Coleman was 34 when he first won the O. Ramy is 36 years old so he still has a few good years left in him. I doubt he'll be the dynasty that Coleman and Heath were.
I wonder what that cartel in Kuwait that abandon Ramy thinks now?
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Even 3rd was a GIFT for Phil, no way he should've beaten Hadi
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Even 3rd was a GIFT for Phil, no way he should've beaten Hadi
So the divot on Ramy's quads might not be "damage" like I speculated earlier. It looks like a major spot for the injections is above the indentention causing that effect. If you look closely you can see it, at least I can :D
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I have Ramy and Brandon close for 1. Phil’s and hadi battling for 3 and akim maybe 4
;)
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So the divot on Ramy's quads might not be "damage" like I speculated earlier. It looks like a major spot for the injections is above the indentention causing that effect. If you look closely you can see it, at least I can :D
He has it on both sides in the exact same place. How would injections cause that? Quad injects are extremely common at the upper levels. Is there another case of this happening or is it just the way his muscle developed?
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Rami is not my ideal but they pretty much had to give it to him. He’s a monster with very few weaknesses!
Heath was 5th at best
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Glad Ramy won but Curry and Heath got gifts. Hadi should have been 2nd. Big Ramy is the 1st ever Mr.O from Dubai, India!!! 8)
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I can remember when seeing the winners circle at the Olympia used to psyche me up to train harder.
All these cookie cutter physiques do is depress me ................and it shows bodybuilding regression/demise.
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From what I’ve seen Hadi was good enough for 2nd curry 3rd Heath 4th or 5th.
Heath & curry were let’s say fortunate.
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From what I’ve seen Hadi was good enough for 2nd curry 3rd Heath 4th or 5th.
Heath & curry were let’s say fortunate.
X2,,,choopan was prepared looked great .
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From what I’ve seen Hadi was good enough for 2nd curry 3rd Heath 4th or 5th.
Heath & curry were let’s say fortunate.
maybe he was marked down for the obvious oil in his delts
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So happy Phil lost. And 3rd place was a gift.
I didn't watch it because I simply can't stand to see Phil's deer in the headlights while chewing briars facial expressions when he poses.
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maybe he was marked down for the obvious oil in his delts
Quite possibly as he was warned about it last year.
Delts not withstanding he was still better than heath & curry overall
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So happy Phil lost. And 3rd place was a gift.
I didn't watch it because I simply can't stand to see Phil's deer in the headlights while chewing briars facial expressions when he poses.
Phil was the Gift alright. He should have gotten 6
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So happy Phil lost. And 3rd place was a gift.
I didn't watch it because I simply can't stand to see Phil's deer in the headlights while chewing briars facial expressions when he poses.
i was happy too.. ive never been a fan of his... his lil whiney bitch persona ruined it for me... great arms though
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i was happy too.. ive never been a fan of his... his lil whiney bitch persona ruined it for me... great arms though
His arms didn’t look that great this time. I had bonac ahead of him.
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His arms didn’t look that great this time. I had bonac ahead of him.
He's all arms so that's.....a problem.
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He's all arms so that's.....a problem.
Are you implying that Phil only has some parts, SOMEPARTS? ???
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Phils probably the most disliked Mr olympia ever.
He exposes his pettiness even on stage, like the BS with kai and this year with curry (while his gut was looking like chuckys face)
Ramy and curry are levels above him as men, so it's good he didn't get another gift.
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Phils probably the most disliked Mr olympia ever.
He exposes his pettiness even on stage, like the BS with kai and this year with curry (while his gut was looking like chuckys face)
Ramy and curry are levels above him as men, so it's good he didn't get another gift.
Curry looked amazing too. He needs more in the legs but he looked great. Ramy looked great.
Phil is a petty person. He should have gotten 6
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Here's a thought I had that I discussed with a friend.
The Olympia open was over 2 days. What are the chances the judges were affected by fan feedback on the predjudging? What I mean is, Ramy was getting overwhelming support as the clear champion online, maybe 9 out of 10 thought he was the winner. I said perhaps if the whole show was over one day he might not have been given the title. What do you guys think?
I also said before the finals that I thought Brandon and Phil would probably get 1-2 gift bumps each. I had Hadi in second, as did many others.
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Here's a thought I had that I discussed with a friend.
The Olympia open was over 2 days. What are the chances the judges were affected by fan feedback on the predjudging? What I mean is, Ramy was getting overwhelming support as the clear champion online, maybe 9 out of 10 thought he was the winner. I said perhaps if the whole show was over one day he might not have been given the title. What do you guys think?
I also said before the finals that I thought Brandon and Phil would probably get 1-2 gift bumps each. I had Hadi in second, as did many others.
I mentioned something similar in the live stream thread. I think this was the first live O I'd watched in full in decades(!) so I'm not sure if the 'online fans choice' award is a regular thing?
But when they presented it to Ramy, and the fans were chanting his name, I wondered how they could get round giving it someone the fans didn't choose...
Commenting on it, Shawn Ray (or it might have been Rich Gaspari) even said something like 'usually you hear a lot of boos when awards are given, and he'd never heard such loud support for an award before' (or words to that effect)
Maybe the whole point of the fan vote is to make sure they get the right pick?
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Father and son :D
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Maybe the whole point of the fan vote is to make sure they get the right pick?
I think Hadi got it last year but didn't win the show. With the fan pick you have a very ethnic/religious (racist as it were, Inshallah lol) type of voting. I'm sure the crazy Iranians voted the hell out of Hadi.
I remember with Hadi the Iranians were almost banned from the IFBB altogether when they went nuts and posted death threats to Flex Lewis lol.
But with Ramy, the support online was from all quarters.
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I think Ramy has shot shoulders.
He was in pain while posing.
Similar problem Paul Dillett had.
He can not hold a pose for more then three seconds.
So i don't see a bright future for Ramy here.
But he is a good Champion 8)
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I think Ramy has shot shoulders.
He was in pain while posing.
Similar problem Paul Dillett had.
He can not hold a pose for more then three seconds.
So i don't see a bright future for Ramy here.
But he is a good Champion 8)
Weird - not the way I saw it - it seemed like he was hitting the poses before everyone else and waiting while Phil did his arm-waving routine to make sure he hit it last - so to me it looked like he was holding the poses longer than everyone else. I'll have to watch the replays back
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Probably 8 or 9 out of 10 pros have "shot shoulders" :D
Seems like they always get worn down.
Dorian's shoulders:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CI6KLqkDS7v/?igshid=181o0f1l2w7ne
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Phils probably the most disliked Mr olympia ever.
He exposes his pettiness even on stage, like the BS with kai and this year with curry (while his gut was looking like chuckys face)
Ramy and curry are levels above him as men, so it's good he didn't get another gift.
Funny everyone always says this, it’s all an act, like MMA fighters talking shit
I’ve met phil many times and he’s a cool guy, very approachable, and no attitude or stuck up persona
I guess everyone likes the “humble” “nice guy” “underdog” BS
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Probably 8 or 9 out of 10 pros have "shot shoulders" :D
Seems like they always get worn down.
Good argument ;)
But he has also severve flexibility issuses in his upper body..
If he is unable to fix this, he will go the Ronny Coleman route.
And this is exactly what i think will happen. Time will tell.
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I'm happy for Ramy, people were tired of blacks dominating the sport, people wanted a white champ :)
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Good argument ;)
But he has also severve flexibility issuses in his upper body..
If he is unable to fix this, he will go the Ronny Coleman route.
And this is exactly what i think will happen. Time will tell.
Most of these monsters can't remove their own t-shirts, can hardly change socks. Greg Kovacs couldn't even wipe his own ass :D
Ramy likely has a number of issues, though Ronnie's were related to severe back issues. I think Ramy might have accepted death for a title win, for himself, his country, God, religion etc, so no matter what, it was worth it. These Middle Easterners are crazy like that :D
I'm happy for Ramy, people were tired of blacks dominating the sport, people wanted a white champ :)
I was at the gym after pre-judging and a middle eastern competitor said, "if Ramy doesn't win it's pure racism!"
I thought to myself, what about the poor blacks he beats, that's not racism? Lol :D
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Probably 8 or 9 out of 10 pros have "shot shoulders" :D
Seems like they always get worn down.
Dorian's shoulders:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CI6KLqkDS7v/?igshid=181o0f1l2w7ne
to be fair he was in a bicycle accident which dislocated his shoulder.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIvy5h-BVC0/
but yes most weightlifters gets some arthritis in the shoulders
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Most of these monsters can't remove their own t-shirts, can hardly change socks. Greg Kovacs couldn't even wipe his own ass :D
Ramy likely has a number of issues, though Ronnie's were related to severe back issues. I think Ramy might have accepted death for a title win, for himself, his country, God, religion etc, so no matter what, it was worth it. These Middle Easterners are crazy like that :D
I was at the gym after pre-judging and a middle eastern competitor said, "if Ramy doesn't win it's pure racism!"
I thought to myself, what about the poor blacks he beats, that's not racism? Lol :D
Not to mention that Middle Eastern is not a race.
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Not to mention that Middle Eastern is not a race.
Maybe not in the american dictionary but it's definately a specific developed phenotype limited to the middle east
Hadi for example anyone could see a picture of him and 99% would say he is middle easterner
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=670200.0;attach=1287478;image)
He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?
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He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?
Like a bag of smashed assholes.
Stick a fork in him.
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He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?
He definitely was way off but still better than I expected. I thought Curry was off as well.
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Remember when Cutler placed ahead of Rami here?
(https://i.redd.it/leg9bwjsj8z01.jpg)
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He looked pretty off, not just the abs either. His head is either bigger, or everything is proportionally smaller. What do you guys think?
Phil’s Head has been growing for a good No. of years now. Not what he needs with his Narrow Shoulders
& Chest doesn’t make for a Great look. I’d guess that Phil is going to be retiring from competing now as
He’s not going to start improving, he’s had his time & did very well.
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Politics
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Phil’s Head has been growing for a good No. of years now. Not what he needs with his Narrow Shoulders
& Chest doesn’t make for a Great look. I’d guess that Phil is going to be retiring from competing now as
He’s not going to start improving, he’s had his time & did very well.
He was one of the greatest for sure, and still is, he is better than Curry
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Ramy likely has a number of issues,
like most..
But..
after seeing the 'pain' in his face & his 'unflexibility' while hitting the side chest and his 'inability to hold a pose'.
I think he has more serious shoulder problems.
Also his side-trizeps-pose.
Arms behind the back is almost impossible for him, which is maybe understandable,
but it also looks like he realy is in pain while hitting those two poses.
It seems to happen when he pulls his shoulder(s) back.
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Does anyone else think Ramy looks like a mix of every race on earth combined ?
Maybe that's what all humans will look like in 1000 years
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Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2020olympia_scorecardMBB.jpg)
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Does anyone else think Ramy looks like a mix of every race on earth combined ?
Maybe that's what all humans will look like in 1000 years
Brutal if true
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He was one of the greatest for sure, and still is, he is better than Curry
Curry smokes him now. This isn't 2011 Phil. Phil got a gift in 3rd. Hadi and Bonac were better than him
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Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2020olympia_scorecardMBB.jpg)
Labrada is better than Sergio jr ever was at this point, top 10 first Olympia, didn’t think the judges would let him beat dexter in his last Olympia
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Looking at the scorecards, Hadi lost to Heath by just 1 point.
(http://www.ifbbpro.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/2020olympia_scorecardMBB.jpg)
Phil was in second after prejudging and slid to forth at the night show?!
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Phil was in second after prejudging and slid to forth at the night show?!
It's unbelievable that the judges had him 2nd after prejudging! They must have read Getbig and realized they would have a riot if they gave it to Phil.
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It's unbelievable that the judges had him 2nd after prejudging! They must have read Getbig and realized they would have a riot if they gave it to Phil.
;)
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Why people keep attacking Phil? it is not the point and non sense. He got 3rd, not 1st, but the spot lights are focusing on his stomach. I think he tried his best to show his figure on the stage. No regret.
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Remember when Cutler placed ahead of Rami here?
(https://i.redd.it/leg9bwjsj8z01.jpg)
Looked far better then.
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I thought the Korean dude didn't look too bad either but he has some mutant shit happening to his gut. Like one of his abs is out of all proportion to the others.
Korean dude calls Lee Seung Chul. Biggest BB in East Asia. His gut has been already improved for this competition. His stomach is usually out of control.
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Why people keep attacking Phil? it is not the point and non sense. He got 3rd, not 1st, but the spot lights are focusing on his stomach. I think he tried his best to show his figure on the stage. No regret.
Because he is so unlikeable. A self-absorbed douche bag. And it is the point. All eyes were focused on him. He's the multi-Olympia winner and this was his big come back and he bragged about how he will destroy everybody. Of course, all the focus was on him. All the talk and his past reputation -- let's see what he brought. Let's see if his mouth could back up his performance and the package that he brings.
It's not that hard to figure out.
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Korean dude calls Lee Seung Chul. Biggest BB in East Asia. His gut has been already improved for this competition. His stomach is usually out of control.
Have there been any objective determinations made about pro bodybuilders getting big guts? Is it just a part of muscle-building, in that as you get bigger and eat so much food [etc] that you invariably get a bigger stomach that grows as a result of all that, or is it specifically a matter of human growth hormone [HGH] making the organs get larger, along with the muscles?
Because bodybuilders were still fairly massive in the late 1980's, but it looks to me that the big guts didn't really show up until Dorian's era, which is probably correspondent with HGH use becoming more common in bodybuilding. So I'm curious if it's a bodybuilding thing, or specifically HGH-related.
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Because he is so unlikeable. A self-absorbed douche bag. And it is the point. All eyes were focused on him. He's the multi-Olympia winner and this was his big come back and he bragged about how he will destroy everybody. Of course, all the focus was on him. All the talk and his past reputation -- let's see what he brought. Let's see if his mouth could back up his performance and the package that he brings.
It's not that hard to figure out.
He’s got 3.5 million followers on Instagram, for a guy that’s so “unlikeable” that’s more than dexter, jay, Kevin, flex, etc
He’s successful at what he does and at the end of the day, he’s got 7 Sandows
Just taking a page out of you, pellius, as a lot of people talk shit all the time about others while not even achieving a quarter of success ;D
Phil’s shit talking is his persona, it’s all an act, like Parker used to say, it goes back to his days of playing basketball. He know how to get people talking, whether it’s negative or positive, he hypes himself up, getting attention. That in itself is def working and he succeeded in doing so
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Have there been any objective determinations made about pro bodybuilders getting big guts? Is it just a part of muscle-building, in that as you get bigger and eat so much food [etc] that you invariably get a bigger stomach that grows as a result of all that, or is it specifically a matter of human growth hormone [HGH] making the organs get larger, along with the muscles?
Because bodybuilders were still fairly massive in the late 1980's, but it looks to me that the big guts didn't really show up until Dorian's era, which is probably correspondent with HGH use becoming more common in bodybuilding. So I'm curious if it's a bodybuilding thing, or specifically HGH-related.
Think about it for a minute. An AIDS/HIV patient is taking 15-18 ius a day. They do so for years with any stomach or organ growth.
You ever eat and drink so much that your stomach makes you look like you're pregnant? Of course, you did. I did so a few days ago: 50 ounces of Sprite, a beef curry plate lunch with two scoops of rice and macaroni salad, one of those Cinnabums (which are huge and cost $5 a piece), a hot fudge sundae with three scoops of ice cream... It took me about 50 minutes to eat all this and it was the soda that really expanded my stomach so it started to hurt being stretch out so much. Imagine if I did this on a regular basis? Constantly stretching out the abdominal wall and the stomach organ? Haven't you notice that MOST men over forty have protruding guts? Even if they have skinny arms and legs they have that bubble gut. They do no bbing or HGH. I doubt that many of those fatsos eat as much as a competitive bber but they're always stuffing their face. Next time you are at a food court just look at what normal people are eating. Multiply that by 3 for a bber.
There's a big difference between 5'10" 225-240 bbers from back in the day and the 275-300 pounders of today. Lee Haney was 5'11" and 230 pounds when he first won the Olympia and he was considered huge. One of the biggest onstage. Now it's routine for some of that height to be 275 lbs onstage and 300 lbs offseason has almost become the norm. 300 POUNDS! That takes a lot of eating. Your stomach is naturally only so big. BBers are force-feeding themselves for years.
Look at a lot of bbers once they retire. Dorian has often been accused as being one of the first to abuse HGH and insulin and when he got over 300 lbs his gut was huge. Even later in his career, he was getting that gut. But now it's gone.
You take 15-20 ius of GH a day like HIV patients do but if you don't stuff yourself you are not going to get a big gut. You don't even have to touch GH but if you eat like a fat pig for years on end you will get a big, fat, bubble gut like the majority of the middle age men
in first world prosperous countries.
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Serotism recommended dosages. Remember 1mg = 3ius and 1kg = 2.2 lbs.
_______________DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION ______________
• The recommended dose of SEROSTIM is 0.1 mg/kg subcutaneously (SC)
daily (up to 6 mg) at bedtime for HIV patients with wasting or cachexia
(2.1)
• Injection sites, which may be located on thigh, upper arm, abdomen or
buttock, should be rotated to avoid local irritation (2.2)
______________DOSAGE FORMS AND STRENGTHS _____________
• Single-dose administration (to be administered with Sterile Water for
Injection) (3):
SEROSTIM 5 mg/ vial
SEROSTIM 6 mg/ vial
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Think about it for a minute. An AIDS/HIV patient is taking 15-18 ius a day. They do so for years with any stomach or organ growth.
You ever eat and drink so much that your stomach makes you look like you're pregnant? Of course, you did. I did so a few days ago: 50 ounces of Sprite, a beef curry plate lunch with two scoops of rice and macaroni salad, one of those Cinnabums (which are huge and cost $5 a piece), a hot fudge sundae with three scoops of ice cream... It took me about 50 minutes to eat all this and it was the soda that really expanded my stomach so it started to hurt being stretch out so much. Imagine if I did this on a regular basis? Constantly stretching out the abdominal wall and the stomach organ? Haven't you notice that MOST men over forty have protruding guts? Even if they have skinny arms and legs they have that bubble gut. They do no bbing or HGH. I doubt that many of those fatsos eat as much as a competitive bber but they're always stuffing their face. Next time you are at a food court just look at what normal people are eating. Multiply that by 3 for a bber.
There's a big difference between 5'10" 225-240 bbers from back in the day and the 275-300 pounders of today. Lee Haney was 5'11" and 230 pounds when he first won the Olympia and he was considered huge. One of the biggest onstage. Now it's routine for some of that height to be 275 lbs onstage and 300 lbs offseason has almost become the norm. 300 POUNDS! That takes a lot of eating. Your stomach is naturally only so big. BBers are force-feeding themselves for years.
Look at a lot of bbers once they retire. Dorian has often been accused as being one of the first to abuse HGH and insulin and when he got over 300 lbs his gut was huge. Even later in his career, he was getting that gut. But now it's gone.
You take 15-20 ius of GH a day like HIV patients do but if you don't stuff yourself you are not going to get a big gut. You don't even have to touch GH but if you eat like a fat pig for years on end you will get a big, fat, bubble gut like the majority of the middle age men
in first world prosperous countries.
Lots of GH, insulin, and EATING
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He’s got 3.5 million followers on Instagram, for a guy that’s so “unlikeable” that’s more than dexter, jay, Kevin, flex, etc
He’s successful at what he does and at the end of the day, he’s got 7 Sandows
Just taking a page out of you, pellius, as a lot of people talk shit all the time about others while not even achieving a quarter of success ;D
Phil’s shit talking is his persona, it’s all an act, like Parker used to say, it goes back to his days of playing basketball. He know how to get people talking, whether it’s negative or positive, he hypes himself up, getting attention. That in itself is def working and he succeeded in doing so
Perhaps I should have been more specific. The poster was referring to the comments here. Phil Heath is wildly popular with the majority of the mainstream fans. Just a random survey at the gym (I go to three different ones) here in Hawaii they love him. I was referring to this board where he is very unpopular.
There is zero doubt that Phil Heath is one of the greatest bbers of all time. His record speaks for itself. And it's one thing to "talk shit", i.e., to criticize Phil as a bber and quite another who considers him a loser at life. Fans are not comparing Phil's physique to their physiques. They are evaluating him using the highest of standards befitting of someone who holds the highest title in bbing. That's fine in my book. I take a dim view when someone starts attacking a person's personal life and success. Especially when the person they are criticizing is on a whole different and higher level of existence. Phil is very successful. There was a guy on here that called Joe Rogan a loser because he married someone who already had a kid. Joe Rogan? A loser? What better life can you have? He sits down and has long involved discussions with some of the greatest minds, athletes, musicians, authors, political figures... in the world. Just that type of environment is going to take your mind and life experience to a whole new level. And he makes 100 mil doing it. And that's not to mention being involved in the inner circle of the UFC, getting paid handsomely to watch all these fights for free, and to travel all over the world and experience different cultures and people. Then there is his TV shows, comedy routines... And this doesn't even take into account what he does on his own time: Black Belt in BJJ, high-level martial artist, works out just as hard as anybody on here, archery hunting, car collector... how can anyone live a more fulfilling life? it's fair to criticize him as an interviewer or announcer or comedian but for anyone on here to call him a loser -- that's just beyond the pale.
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Why people keep attacking Phil? it is not the point and non sense. He got 3rd, not 1st, but the spot lights are focusing on his stomach. I think he tried his best to show his figure on the stage. No regret.
It is the point of this thread: 2020 Olympia-Heath at the O
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Anyway 7 times Mr O titles
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Anyway 7 times Mr O titles
All that GH made his nose grow too.
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All that GH made his nose grow too.
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All that GH made his nose grow too.
And his Head !!!