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From Anne Byron McGough
On Tuesday 29th December, 2020 just before 3pm, Peter McGough sadly passed away peacefully at home after an 8 year battle with Cancer fighting right to the end . He was my one true love, my soulmate and my best friend I am truly heartbroken. Peter touched so many lives, he was a great storyteller, journalist and friend to all. He made a huge impact on the world. I have asked two of his very close friends to write a more fitting memorium as I am unable to do so at the moment. I cannot tell you how much Peter and I have appreciated from the bottom of our hearts the love and support we have received from family, friends and all of our facebook friends. His imlact on the world will live on in our hearts amd minds. I love you all. Please excuse me for not replying to your comments right now but I promise I will fead them all and reply when I am able.
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A titan in the bodybuilding industry. He will be missed.
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RIP
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That’s sad to hear.Rip.
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No way - saw him at many shows years ago - nice fella by all accounts
I remember the way he got behind Dorian in the early '90s. There was a brief spell where he launched a bodybuilding newspaper - The Pumping Press - very cool for the UK scene at the time
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqFtV9R1/u-https-i-ebayimg-com-images-g-IEEAAOSw-ZMZa0-VOT-s-l300.jpg)
And the way he consistently bad-mouthed the WBF and 'bigged-up' the IFBB, to the extent he ended up a Weider writer - nicely played - we all know it's a small number of people that actually make a living from this ridiculous nonsense
PIP
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Very nice guy. RIP
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Peter was a good guy. A shame he had to be sick for so long. He put up a good fight and will be missed.
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Rest In Peace.
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RIP
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RIP. I enjoyed his posts on various forums over the years.
If there is a brightside to this, he was a tough guy to get 8 years out of a diagnosis like that, and hopefully he got to settle up peacefully and on his own terms.
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When I started reading bbing magazines in the 90’s he was the first name I’ve heard about in the industry :'(
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when i was a young puny bodybuilder buying flex magazines, peter i beleive at the time was one of the main writers of flex. i always enjoyed his articles.
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When I was a young manlet [as opposed to an older manlet], Peter McGough was one of the first bodybuilding reporters/journalists I read, in issues of FLEX magazine from bodybuilding's Ironage [Starting mid- to late November 2000, which means the first FLEX magazines that I bought at Canada's now-defunct Ironage retailer Zellers were the ones dated early 2001, as they always came out a month or two earlier than the printed date].
In one issue, Peter McGough said fans had accused Nasser El Sonbaty of looking dopey on stage, and assumed he was suffering from liver failure as a result [jaundice eyes, maybe]. To which Nasser responded that he gets his heart, lungs, kidneys, and liver checked three or four times a year. That was my early introduction to the toxicity of competitive bodybuilding [why would a pro bodybuilder check his vital organs so often if that level of bodybuilding was healthy?].
McGough then wrote something close to "As for calling El Sonbaty "dopey", the only thing I call a man who competes at 287-lb is "Sir"."
Hence starting a long timeframe of me assuming pro bodybuilders could beat up manlet MMA fighters.
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RIP
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In one issue, Peter McGough said fans had accused Nasser El Sonbaty of looking dopey on stage, and assumed he was suffering from liver failure as a result [jaundice eyes, maybe]. To which Nasser responded that he gets his heart, lungs, kidneys, and liver checked three or four times a year. That was my early introduction to the toxicity of competitive bodybuilding [why would a pro bodybuilder check his vital organs so often if that level of bodybuilding was healthy?].
McGough then wrote something close to "As for calling El Sonbaty "dopey", the only thing I call a man who competes at 287-lb is "Sir"."
Not wishing to muddy Mr Gough's thread at all, but that 'response' from Nasser doesn't appear to have aged well (knowing what we do now...)
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No way - saw him at many shows years ago - nice fella by all accounts
I remember the way he got behind Dorian in the early '90s. There was a brief spell where he launched a bodybuilding newspaper - The Pumping Press - very cool for the UK scene at the time
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqFtV9R1/u-https-i-ebayimg-com-images-g-IEEAAOSw-ZMZa0-VOT-s-l300.jpg)
And the way he consistently bad-mouthed the WBF and 'bigged-up' the IFBB, to the extent he ended up a Weider writer - nicely played - we all know it's a small number of people that actually make a living from this ridiculous nonsense
PIP
:o
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RIP and schmoe in heaven
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That truly suck! Peter was a great guy spoke with him on Ironage many times. Always took the time to answer questions had a wealth of bodybuilding knowledge. Rest in peace.
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RIP Peter was 1 of the better guys in the industry was a straight shooter and actually took a genuine interest in the individuals rather than the system wealth of knowledge gone 1 bye 1 the old school guys are passing on :( :( :(
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when i was a young puny bodybuilder buying flex magazines, peter i beleive at the time was one of the main writers of flex. i always enjoyed his articles.
X2 RIP
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I enjoyed his writing. Especially about Dorian.
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R.I.P.
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This is sad :( RIP
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2020
SIP :'(
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In one issue, Peter McGough said fans had accused Nasser El Sonbaty of looking dopey on stage, and assumed he was suffering from liver failure as a result [jaundice eyes, maybe]. To which Nasser responded that he gets his heart, lungs, kidneys, and liver checked three or four times a year. That was my early introduction to the toxicity of competitive bodybuilding [why would a pro bodybuilder check his vital organs so often if that level of bodybuilding was healthy?].
Recently Chad Nicholls said Nasser loved Anadrol and injectable Winstrol. Nasser said his eyes were yellow and Chad asked how many drols he was taking - 5 a day.
Not a monstrous amount but especially when combined with everything else can definitely cause jaundice.
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RIP, enjoyed the writing way back when. Should have counseled Dorian to keep long hair.
How do you pronounce his last name? Mc-Gow, Mc-Go, Mc-Gaw, Mc-Guff?
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RIP, enjoyed the writing way back when. Should have counseled Dorian to keep long hair.
How do you pronounce his last name? Mc-Gow, Mc-Go, Mc-Gaw, Mc-Guff?
Mc-Guff
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:o
Fair enough - that did make me grin ;D
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RIP, enjoyed the writing way back when. Should have counseled Dorian to keep long hair.
How do you pronounce his last name? Mc-Gow, Mc-Go, Mc-Gaw, Mc-Guff?
He pronounced it very close to - Mcgaoff or McGauff.
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X2 RIP
X3. 20yrs after the fact I doubt I could name another writer from Flex but I remember Peter. He's the original fanboy the way he always talked up Yates. RIP
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RIP Peter
One of the more decent ones
Wrote some good articles & Always a Big Dorian Fan.
He will be Missed.
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X3. 20yrs after the fact I doubt I could name another writer from Flex but I remember Peter. He's the original fanboy the way he always talked up Yates. RIP
It's funny, but he's the only one I remember too...well, Sean Perrine too. Other names would come back to me...but I never forgot Peter. I definitely remember him the most. I think that was a combination of his excellent writing, and remaining active in the industry for so long.
Sean Perrine was also an excellent writer. They were almost poets.
In fact, the only FLEX article I can remember with writing as excellent as either Peter or Sean, would have been in this chest article, written by Ronnie Coleman:
The harder you train, it seems, the slower your progress. You obey all the rules using good form, hard and heavy, proper pyramiding, and a regimen so precise that the Greenwich prime meridian bends to your schedule...but your chest remains the same. Sure, it's thick, swollen and proportioned, but you want it bigger. You want to watch it grow, see it move, bulging and distorting like a Lava Lite in front of a funhouse mirror.
Ronnie is incredibly articulate.
https://www.muscleandfitness.com/flexonline/training/12-week-plan-massive-chest
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Greenwich prime meridian
Hmm...on closer inspection, that article may have been ghost-written by Peter McGough.
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always enjoyed his articles in flex
one i really remember is in 2003 after ronnie won the O and brought the freakiest body to stage we ever saw
peter asked if what ronnie did to get that body was worth it
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Peter is the only name I really remember as far as Flex writers - it was when I really got into bb. Wonder what kind of salary he was making.
I think it was BB who posted a pic of Greg Zulak recently so I went on Zulak's FB, and Zulak said he was training a bit and taking a bit of testosterone but couldn't afford a "proper cycle". Looked like he was living below the poverty line. I was a bit sad for him, if I knew him I might have gifted him some gear to take in his old age. If you can't afford a vial of Deca and perhaps a few orals, that's sad, no way to live your last years.
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Zulak now -
(https://images.classmates.com/pho301/E/Q/x/X/4925337397_display.jpg).
(https://images.classmates.com/pho301/1/b/a/5/4931566453_display.jpg).
Zulak 1985 -
(https://gregzulak.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Bob-Kennedy-Marjo-Selin-Greg-Zulak.jpg).
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He was trying to get a guruing / online business going maybe a decade ago. He promised a tell-all book, and there was some interest, but it fizzled away after a few months. I think the age gap had something to do with it, he took too much of a break from the industry, and people forgot. If he maybe started an online show like Drasin, and slowly reintroduced himself, he might've had more success.
His place holder website is up, but it hasn't changed in years :( -
https://gregzulak.com .
That's one thing I remember about Zulak, he didn't push. He seemed happy just to have the MuscleMag audience.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJeYoWBLOgq/
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RIP great writer and quality human being.
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Peter is the only name I really remember as far as Flex writers - it was when I really got into bb. Wonder what kind of salary he was making.
Julian Schmidt (aka our very own Kahn n Singh ;)) was one of my faves - guaranteed I'd need a thesaurus each time I read his florid prose (e.g. Lou Ferrigno's 'stentorian roar' when training)
I think it was BB who posted a pic of Greg Zulak recently so I went on Zulak's FB, and Zulak said he was training a bit and taking a bit of testosterone but couldn't afford a "proper cycle". Looked like he was living below the poverty line. I was a bit sad for him, if I knew him I might have gifted him some gear to take in his old age. If you can't afford a vial of Deca and perhaps a few orals, that's sad, no way to live your last years.
;D
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CJeYoWBLOgq/
i was surprised he was only 71, he always looked like he was in his 60's including this 30 year old pic
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Peter is the only name I really remember as far as Flex writers - it was when I really got into bb. Wonder what kind of salary he was making.
I think it was BB who posted a pic of Greg Zulak recently so I went on Zulak's FB, and Zulak said he was training a bit and taking a bit of testosterone but couldn't afford a "proper cycle". Looked like he was living below the poverty line. I was a bit sad for him, if I knew him I might have gifted him some gear to take in his old age. If you can't afford a vial of Deca and perhaps a few orals, that's sad, no way to live your last years.
It's weird seeing people who were once famous living in poverty. There are people retired from Wal Mart living better than that.
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Yep. A minimum wage job with wise money management x 40 years is safer than the entrepreneur/against the grain route.
If you make it as an entrepreneur, you make it big, but more often than not it's an unstable income source.
lol - uh no. I dumped the "stable job" and became an entrepreneur years ago. Yes - you can make it big. Enough said.
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Just another closet homo biting the dust .
I think he was pretty open about it.
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RIP
A great and well-known bodybuilding historian.
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Julian Schmidt (aka our very own Kahn n Singh ;)) was one of my faves - guaranteed I'd need a thesaurus each time I read his florid prose (e.g. Lou Ferrigno's 'stentorian roar' when training)
;D
That fella I remember now as well, had no idea he was Kahn.
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He shot the legendary Dorian black & white pictures in 1992. That alone is an entire awesome career.
PIP.
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always enjoyed his articles in flex
one i really remember is in 2003 after ronnie won the O and brought the freakiest body to stage we ever saw
peter asked if what ronnie did to get that body was worth it
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I think the title of that article was called "Redemption? But at What Cost?" And inspired the title of Ronnie's DVD "The Cost of Redemption."
I also remember that article very well. One thing McGough said was something like "The extent and depth to which Ronnie's glutes connected to his hamstrings must reflect some degree of how intense his squatting program [or "regiment"] was."
The next year [2004], there was an article featuring Ronnie Coleman squatting nine plates per side [855-lb], and Ronnie got a nosebleed from it. That may have been the same article where he was doing t-bar rows, and the handle broke.
A thread on Mayhem blew up about that article, possibly featuring a response from John Romano at MD, where he said something like "How is dying young from bodybuilding/steroids any different than dying young from diabetes or liver failure [implication - McGough would die young of this]."
Romano also said that McGough's daughter was hot, in that article. That he sat behind her at one of the Olympias or something. Maybe she's around 45 now, but I don't know. She must be very sad right now.
Not sure if I got all those details right, but close enough, I think.
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Julian Schmidt (aka our very own Kahn n Singh ;)) was one of my faves - guaranteed I'd need a thesaurus each time I read his florid prose (e.g. Lou Ferrigno's 'stentorian roar' when training)
;D
Heh :)
I elevate Khan above Schmidt. For one, Khan is a genetically engineered ubermensch; Julian, meanwhile, was merely intelligent opposite normal, unmodified homo sapiens -- no match for a homo superioiris.
Secondly, Julian's writing focused unduly on million dollar words and almost stream of consciousness missives that had little bearing on the subject at hand. A fine vocabulary is commendable but, when coupled with constant digressive spiels, we reach a point at which the writer forgets the cardinal rule of good writing and communication: the ability to be understood.
Studying Ernest Hemingway taught me that lesson. Later study of different writing styles in literature, journalism and public relations reinforced it, but Papa was the one who showed me the power of "more is less."
Consider: "Jesus wept" versus "Jesus, tears in his eyes, suffered on the cross." Which has more impact?
We already know he suffered. We already know the means by which He was executed.
Most would agree the first line connotes all of the information we need and, consequently, it comes across with greater power.
Our Khan doesn't multiply words for verbosity's sake. Schmidt? Eh, I don't know. But from my interactions with Mr. McGough, I don't care how many articles he ghost-writ: he was a class-act, gentleman and a neat guy. I hope he rests in eternal peace.
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Julian Schmidt (aka our very own Kahn n Singh ;)) was one of my faves - guaranteed I'd need a thesaurus each time I read his florid prose (e.g. Lou Ferrigno's 'stentorian roar' when training)
;D
According to Flex Magazine, Julian Schmidt died in 2015. Kahn n Singh is still posting on Getbig recently. Can't be the same guy.
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From Anne Byron McGough
On Tuesday 29th December, 2020 just before 3pm, Peter McGough sadly passed away peacefully at home after an 8 year battle with Cancer fighting right to the end . He was my one true love, my soulmate and my best friend I am truly heartbroken. Peter touched so many lives, he was a great storyteller, journalist and friend to all. He made a huge impact on the world. I have asked two of his very close friends to write a more fitting memorium as I am unable to do so at the moment. I cannot tell you how much Peter and I have appreciated from the bottom of our hearts the love and support we have received from family, friends and all of our facebook friends. His imlact on the world will live on in our hearts amd minds. I love you all. Please excuse me for not replying to your comments right now but I promise I will fead them all and reply when I am able.
Those of us who once aspired to be a muscle magazine writer know how fickle that occupation is. Goodness knows what some of those guys had to do to get and keep their jobs. It wasn't that long ago that Shawn Perine was chosen ahead of Peter McGough to head Flex magazine. Perhaps Peter's health had something to do with that decision. I agree that Peter was respected in the Iron Game. According to most here editors are quickly forgotten by readers.
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Those of us who once aspired to be a muscle magazine writer know how fickle that occupation is. Goodness knows what some of those guys had to do to get and keep their jobs. It wasn't that long ago that Shawn Perrine was chosen ahead of Peter McGough to head Flex magazine. Perhaps Peter's health had something to do with that decision. I agree that Peter was respected in the Iron Game. According to most here editors are quickly forgotten by readers.
I thought you've been around long enough to know the correct spelling of Shawn's name, Vince, not the incorrect way some people spelled it on this forum when Shawn passed.
It's Shawn Perine, with one r.
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Great article by Greg Merritt, who worked for Peter at Flex Magazine and Weider for a long time.
Thank you Greg!
THE LIFE OF PETER MCGOUGH (1949-2020)
https://www.thebarbell.com/the-life-of-peter-mcgough-1949-2020/?fbclid=IwAR3wNaG5zDuwYOTjX0NvpAYP9y3D0YhNiOnB75lrrKfiuiT7IXVKiFPVY04
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RIP.