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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt on January 23, 2021, 01:06:15 PM
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Not sure what time zone this UFC is being held in, so the fight may start soon.
I ordered/bought Mayweather vs. McGregor TWICE, and neither one played, and I was forced to stream it. So as far as I'm concerned, someone involved with promoting McGregor fights owes me $198 CAD [$12 USD].
But on a serious note, I'm not going to pay for McGregor fights that don't even stream properly when I'm owed $198 for a fight I never received. So I'll be downloading this one tonight, and maybe start paying next time.
Kwon, if you could [when the time comes] - work your magic please.
PS - this fight could go the distance. Based on their respective performances against Khabib, I would have to pick McGregor. His camp apparently went well. I have no doubt this fight can go deep into the later rounds though. Poirier is hungry and probably on whatever they caught Dillashaw using. EPO? If both trained well, on paper, it would narrowly go to McGregor. I can't base it on the first fight...that was 2014. I know Dustin is better than he was in 2014. My question is - have Conor's millions and millions made him get lazy? Lol @ the UFC fighting Conor once a year to milk him for money. Man, they need McGregor badly.
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Streaming link please.
If Dana wants downloads/streaming to stop, maybe he can make the paid streams as good as the free ones first.
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I can't stand McGregor but I see him quickly stopping Poirier with punches or kicks. He's just on another level.
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Streaming link please.
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it would narrowly go to McGregor.
No, McGregor wins this easy.
K.O. first or second round.
It's true what McGregor said here, Dustin is levels below him.
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- Dana can sue me.
- If Dana does sue me [which I honestly can't rule out], I will explain in a viral video that HE owes me $198 for the money I spent on Mayweather vs. McGregor, which I did NOT receive, because both steams froze.
I'm getting my money back that's OWED to me, and THEN I will pay.
Link please. Kwon?
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I will explain in a viral video that HE owes me $198 for the money I spent on Mayweather vs. McGregor, which I did NOT receive, because both steams froze.
I'm getting my money back that's OWED to me, and THEN I will pay.
Good luck with that..
http://givememmastreams.com/ufc-mma/ufc-live-stream
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Good luck with that..
http://givememmastreams.com/ufc-mma/ufc-live-stream
What do you mean?
I am downloading this fight, because promotions surrounding Conor McGregor owe me $198 for the Mayweather fight alone.
Not to mention at least a few UFC fights I paid for that froze over and over throughout the fight.
Fuck that, I am taking back what I owe.
Give me Dana White's Twitter, and I'll tweet that to him.
WHEN I get back what the UFC owes me, I will start paying for fights again. Which I always have, and have records to prove that.
I'm not paying for freezing streams. I have an expectation to get what I pay for. Alternatively, the option would have been to get a refund from the UFC, then pay the money back to them in a he future anyway.
All in all, what's the difference here?
Next fight, I start paying again. If the streams STILL suck in 2021, why would I pay? When we buy an interior product at the store, we return it, right?
Dana needs to get these streams working 100% of the time. Or 99.9% or something. Even 9 in 10 seamless streams would be fine with me.
I've only watched a couple of free fights. But again - I'm owed money here.
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I am downloading this fight, because promotions surrounding Conor McGregor owe me $198 for the Mayweather fight alone.
You can sue him for that, if you do illegal stuff you go to prison. (don't know about canada)
Nobody cares about a not working stream, two different things.
But you are correct of course, it's overpriced and you should get your money back.
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You can sue him for that, if you do illegal stuff you go to prison. (don't know about canada)
Nobody cares about a not working stream, two different things.
But you are correct of course, it's overpriced and you should get your money back.
You definitely will not go to prison for illegal streaming.What a fucking joke that is.
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You definitely will not go to prison for illegal streaming.What a fucking joke that is.
Not if you watch it. If you stream for others it can happen.
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Streamiing sites?
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Its a glorified mob racket, at this point.
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Good luck with that..
http://givememmastreams.com/ufc-mma/ufc-live-stream
Fantastic. Link works. Thanks.
Regarding McGregor beating Poirier in the first round. That could happen, but you guys aren't making a rational, mathematical assessment:
- The respective Khabib fights for both fighters would be the best way we can make a comparison. BOTH fighters looked just as bad/good against Khabib. McGregor made it into the fourth round, to Poirier's three. Hence based on that, I would give it to McGregor. We can't look at the 2014 fight to answer this question. Too much time has passed and weight divisions have changed. The Khabib fights are the most RECENT comparison to give us some idea.
- McGregor beating Cowboy doesn't mean very much. Cowboy was almost 38 at the time, with ample miles on him. Nice scam though - get McGregor to go up a weight class against a seasoned veteran, and act like the win was a big deal. That fast knockout was impressive though...you'd think Cowboy's team would have trained him for that possibility.
- We need to consider McGregor's wealth getting to him. My opinion on this is that his team is aware of this, and letting him know not to fall in the habit of partying, because his whole life will be a party after. Having two kids probably helps too.
Based on how Poirier looked in the Hooker fight, I think this will be a good fight. That said, where was the defense in that fight? If Poirier forgets defense this time, he could be in big trouble. Also, where is Hooker ranked?
Unless Hooker is ranked #8 or worse, this fight will not be finished in the first round. Ugh. And even if it DOES finish that fast, what is your thought process arriving at that conclusion?
So McGregor beats a washed up Cowboy in seconds, so he can therefore beat a much younger legit #2 contender?
You're not considering miles here. McGregor did NOT beat a prime Cowboy. Had he done that, I would agree - round one KO tonight.
Oh...hahaha, tl;dr, but here's another way to sum it up:
It took KHABIB - who is WAY better than McGregor - three rounds to beat Poirier, but McGregor will do it in one?
That being said, Poirier had serious surgery last year. And that is the ONLY thing I'm not considering here.
Otherwise, as I said above, "on paper", it goes to McGregor in round three or later.
But Poirier does have a chance, and does deserve this fight.
One LAST point:
McGregor is the UFC's cash cow. They are fighting him once a year, and building major hype around those fights. If the UFC thought Poirier could win, they would probably not give him this fight, and give McGregor another washed up welterweight.
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Not if watch it. If you stream for others it can happen.
To Dana White, I'm putting this on record, just to be sure:
You owe me at LEAST $198 CAD. Since we should be square after tonight IF this free fight stream works, I'll be paying for future streams.
That said, get your streams in order if you want to get all the paying customers. The others weren't going to pay anyway, so it's just free promotion. Maybe put some streams out yourself, and monetize them somehow. I don't see anything stopping streaming.
But in my case, you legit owe me cash, so I won't be paying until I get one more CLEAR free stream.
Then I pay until you owe me again for services not rendered.
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Regarding McGregor beating Poirier in the first round. That could happen, but you guys aren't making a rational, mathematical assessment:
- The respective Khabib fights for both fighters would be the best way we can make a comparison. BOTH fighters looked just as bad/good against Khabib.
disagree, conor looked much better..
- McGregor beating Cowboy doesn't mean very much. Cowboy was almost 38 at the time..
Yes, Fight was a joke
- We need to consider McGregor's wealth getting to him.
maybe
mma math doesn't work.
McGregor is the best striker + no takedown thread.
= easy win
But let's see it is still a fight.
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Could McGregor beat Martyn Ford? No.
No one can
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Could McGregor beat Martyn Ford? No.
No one can
Yuri could beat him, undefeated& the most complete fighter.
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Spoiler, if anyone cares about the under-card:
Did that last fighter from Iraq just promote a suicide bombing, or did he commemorate the victims?
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Matt ur focusing on somethings that dont matter to you. You need to recognize when ur caught up in autistic mania 'bro'
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Matt ur focusing on somethings that dont matter to you. You need to recognize when ur caught up in autistic mania 'bro'
That must explain why I've beaten the UFC books for the past 14 years now.
Some of my posts - many of my posts - are long.
NONE of my posts are wrong.
Also, stop misusing the Marty Champions account - as I told you, Marty was NEVER cruel to anyone.
The rest of your imitation is pretty spot on.
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That must explain why I've beaten the UFC books for the past 14 years now.
Did you bet on the fight today tonight?
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Fuck McGregor,I`m watching boxing on Showtime at 9 PM with some iced tea and some popcorn.
Boxing > UFC any day in my book.
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Good luck with that..
http://givememmastreams.com/ufc-mma/ufc-live-stream
1. Thanks BossBoss.
2. This link is working well for me.
3. My suggestion to make this stream continue to work is to not expand it. Seems like those are the people getting booted from the stream.
Even the small version looks good cast to a big TV. Hopefully this doesn't crash when the McGregor/Poirier fight starts.
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Fuck McGregor,I`m watching boxing on Showtime at 9 PM with some iced tea and some popcorn.
Boxing > UFC any day in my book.
I thought I was alone. Yes, boxing is more fun to watch than MMA any day of the week.
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I thought I was alone. Yes, boxing is more fun to watch than MMA any day of the week.
I agree,who want to watch two men roll around on a mat for 45 minutes?
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Matt Frevola is currently fighting in a lightweight bout.
Is he trying to steal Conor's look?
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Did Matt Frevola get "5 minus 3" wrong when his corner man asked him? I'm pretty sure he said 3.
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Matt Frevola is currently fighting in a lightweight bout.
Is he trying to steal Conor's look?
Even Conor himself copied his looks.
(http://fightstate.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/what.jpg?41d9ba)
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No, McGregor wins this easy.
K.O. first or second round.
On what basis do you see McGregor beating Poirier faster than Khabib beating Poirier? Is that because of Poirier's hip surgery last year? Or maybe you think it's a stylistic match-up? Maybe 2014 is in your head. If I had to guess, the Cowboy fight is in your head. Cowboy was washed up. The UFC fed McGregor a tomato can [in the form of an aged fighter] because he is a cash cow.
Your prediction may come true, but I'm just curious why you think that. Because what you are saying is McGregor is better than Khabib, and that's not true.
Anyone betting money on UFC fights should use some form of objective reasoning to do so.
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it's a stylistic match-up
Because what you are saying is McGregor is better than Khabib, and that's not true.
You can not compare different fighters in different fights.
Reason why he lost against Kabit is because he has no ground-game. (like oldtimer1 said)
But this is not the case in this matchup. He is by far the better boxer.
The rest is even. So he wins. Poirier has power but is slower.
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Khabib is a master ground guy. He's on another level. Just might be the pound for pound best. I don't care how good of a striker you are. Khabib can easily get you down and then you are done. He toyed with McGregor whose ground game is really bad. What McGregor has going for him is that he is good at avoiding take downs but not against a true world class wrestler.
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Just might be the pound for pound best.
Don't believe that garbage. A guy who defends his belt three times and fights only in one weight class can never be considered p4p best. Ever heard of GSP?
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"Good stoppage" in the Marina Hodriguez fight according to Daniel Cormier.
wut
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McGregor vs. Poirier II is starting now @12:21am EST.
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Never mind...Poirier is on the A side:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_257
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Bunch of goobers, these MMA heroes.
Me, I’m jamming metal.
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wtf Matt was right.
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I can't stand McGregor but I see him quickly stopping Poirier with punches or kicks. He's just on another level.
You were saying?
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That was quick.😂
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McGregor's done, laying on the floor like a battered wife. You can see he doesn't have the hunger anymore, you can see it in his eyes.
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wtf
You had no rational basis for your views. You had them because you thought they were popular. You jumped on an emotional hype train, and look what happened?
That's why I don't do that.
I had Conor by TKO in round 4-5, or Conor by decision. Poirier shocked me tonight.
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McGregor's done, laying on the floor like a battered wife. You can see he doesn't have the hunger anymore, you can see it in his eyes.
He`d rather punch the heads of old guys in bars.
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You had no rational basis for your views. You had them because you thought they were popular. You jumped on an emotional hype train, and look what happened?
Nope, you just got lucky.
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McGregor's done, laying on the floor like a battered wife. You can see he doesn't have the hunger anymore, you can see it in his eyes.
That's the type of thing I consider.
That's why I have beaten the UFC odd-makers/books for 14 years now.
People need to consider miles/wear, and how money changes an athlete.
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You had no rational basis for your views. You had them because you thought they were popular. You jumped on an emotional hype train, and look what happened?
That's why I don't do that.
I had Conor by TKO in round 4-5, or Conor by decision. Poirier shocked me tonight.
Not sure why he gave Khabib a tough time. Maybe he will come back for another with Dustin.
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That's why I have beaten the UFC odd-makers/books for 14 years now.
please..we wait til the next bout and you make a proper list, then you can talk.
To predict one fight is nothing. + even you predicted that conor will win this fight so..
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YUP....like a famous boxer once said....it’s hard too get out of bed in the mornings and run....when you are now sleeping in silk sheets....
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Poor Conor :(
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Getbig is bad at predictions. First Trump now this.....
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If Khabib comes back the only fight for him is Chandler he's beat everyone else and chandler was solid beating hooker, he also throws up a bit of intrigue with his wrestling base, but so could Gathje prior to fighting him but one could argue Chandlers wrestling base is better ?
But one things for sure Khabib vs dustin or Connor or Gaethje is the same result and Ferguson who so deserved the shot has now lost twice, Olivera is another one to consider but todays fights didn't show up nothing much of a challenge to get him out of retirement. Connor looked predictable and outside a punchers chance with his left hand, he doesn't have much left.
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YUP....like a famous boxer once said....it’s hard too get out of bed in the mornings and run....when you are now sleeping in silk sheets....
Marvin Hagler
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McGregor has been bad for a long time.
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(https://cdn.shortpixel.ai/spai/w_1003+q_lossy+ret_img+to_webp/https://itsgame7.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/mcgregorbernie-780x470.jpg)
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Khabib took his soul. He destroyed his kinehan gangster swag.
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Best thing I could here is he lost.I can’t stand him.
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Khabib took his soul. He destroyed his kinehan gangster swag.
The night life and drugs did that.
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Yipee...The little prick got his ass whipped....Maybe now he will develop a little class...
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The night life and drugs did that.
Seems like his cardio was a problem. He didn’t have the gas tank to circle away when he got it trouble.
Probably his highly paid S&C coaches have him doing all kinds of stupid shit when he just needs to do roadwork.
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Seems like his cardio was a problem. He didn’t have the gas tank to circle away when he got it trouble.
Probably his highly paid S&C coaches have him doing all kinds of stupid shit when he just needs to do roadwork.
Conner looks roided
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Conner looks roided
All those guy are on roids dont be naieve.
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All those guy are on roids dont be naieve.
And girls..
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Conner looks roided
Did you see Michael Chandler?
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(https://i.postimg.cc/QC1RBmf0/conor-dustin-2.gif)
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Did you see Michael Chandler?
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/wco3IQI-bF9FL4zWrV32TZGLSGg=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19558363/118_Michael_Chandler.jpg)
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me and walter white where discussing this before the fight, i told walter , mcgregor has not had much cage time in 4 years, i think 4 rounds total, i dont even count the cerrone dive fight. connor more than likely is done, if he is serious he better fight twice more this year and win them both, i also think his outside life has affected him alot, hes an asshole for one, he has had multiple law suits to settle, i am sure that bus incident cost him millions in out of court settlements notice the ufc doesnt talk about that, also he is being sued for sexual assault at this moment. fuck him. he is a piece of white trash.
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who fucking cares about these flyweights regardless
put them against a heavyweight and they'll be squashed.
there is no weightclasses in a real life to death fight. Which is what this is supposed to simulate
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(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/wco3IQI-bF9FL4zWrV32TZGLSGg=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/19558363/118_Michael_Chandler.jpg)
How can that be natural? Is testing the same in Abu Dhabi?
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me and walter white where discussing this before the fight, i told walter , mcgregor has not had much cage time in 4 years, i think 4 rounds total, i dont even count the cerrone dive fight. connor more than likely is done, if he is serious he better fight twice more this year and win them both, i also think his outside life has affected him alot, hes an asshole for one, he has had multiple law suits to settle, i am sure that bus incident cost him millions in out of court settlements notice the ufc doesnt talk about that, also he is being sued for sexual assault at this moment. fuck him. he is a piece of white trash.
Exactly. In terms of the UFC itself, Conor hasn't done much of anything since 2016. The Mayweather boxing match was great for promotion, and he performed well in the Cowboy Cerrone fight...but I can't even tell whether or not that fight was even real.
Cerrone literally didn't do ANYTHING. TheWeasle on YouTube tried breaking that fight down...I still see no evidence it was real, since Cerrone simply did nothing.
And this fight tonight didn't do much to prove that McGregor is at the HIGHEST level. He could well be the #2-4 best lightweight right now.
That's not even an insult - people confuse MMA for boxing. Boxing has more win streaks. Supposedly because boxers invariably fight more tomato cans.
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Da CAGE is where it's at.
Welcome to da top of da food chain ;)
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who fucking cares about these flyweights regardless
put them against a heavyweight and they'll be squashed.
there is no weightclasses in a real life to death fight. Which is what this is supposed to simulate
It's a sport not a life and death street fight.
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Conor vs Poirier II Full Fight Video
https://c87cxc.fullfight.video/m1/CONOR%20McGREGOR%20vs.%20DUSTIN%20POIRIER%202%20full%20fight%20UFC%20257
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Conner looks roided
He did and if you’re gonna be carrying extra weight, cardio is even more important.
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Best thing I could here is he lost.I can’t stand him.
x2
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Connor at this point in his career reminds me of mike tyson after he got out of prison. tyson had three easy fights, then had a real fight with holyfiled, which in pretty much was the end of mike tyson, now, most of this was tysons fault, he didnt take his training seriously and did not take tough fights as well. but he was getting paid very well his first 5 fights out of prison he made 150 million , 30 million a pop. connor made alot of money fast, but lets be real, he has been beaten down in two of his past three fights. legal problems, sexual assault cases he is the white trash version of mike tyson, and lets be real tyson was a piece of shit back then.
also don king paid lennox lewis 10 million not to fight mike tyson back in 96 or 97. this is a true fact look it up if you do not beleive me
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Connor at this point in his career reminds me of mike tyson after he got out of prison. tyson had three easy fights, then had a real fight with holyfiled, which in pretty much was the end of mike tyson, now, most of this was tysons fault, he didnt take his training seriously and did not take tough fights as well. but he was getting paid very well his first 5 fights out of prison he made 150 million , 30 million a pop. connor made alot of money fast, but lets be real, he has been beaten down in two of his past three fights. legal problems, sexual assault cases he is the white trash version of mike tyson, and lets be real tyson was a piece of shit back then.
also don king paid lennox lewis 10 million not to fight mike tyson back in 96 or 97. this is a true fact look it up if you do not beleive me
Yes, most fans thought Lennox Lewis was dodging Tyson and other fighters but it was the other way around. Lewis is one of the most underrated heavyweight champs of all time and he was smart leaving on top.
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Yes, most fans thought Lennox Lewis was dodging Tyson and other fighters but it was the other way around. Lewis is one of the most underrated heavyweight champs of all time and he was smart leaving on top.
humble i totally agree now as i have gotten older he was the best of that crop, i would rate him and holyfield as the best of the 90's era, which was the best era of hw boxing. here is another rare fact , both larry holmes and george foreman were never stopped in there comebacks , holmes beat ray mercer in a masterful perfromance and gave holyfield a close fights, foreman was just tough and could take a shot.
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what is even better is what excuses dana white will make now, he thought connor mcscumbag would run through dustin
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McGregor was always more of a hype machine than anything. He was a good fighter, and a better shit talker and showman.
He is the male version of Rhonda Rousey.
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I watched boxing last night..........main event was a brutal barn burner.
Fuck MMA.
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How can that be natural? Is testing the same in Abu Dhabi?
Could be clean. Question is, are they subjected unannounced out of competition testing with no corruption from officials? Passing a test at comp is easy, unannounced test, very hard. I think there is a ton of corruption and shenanigans though.
Fella has been on plenty of GH, the look is obvious. That and things like methyltrienolone.
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..are they subjected unannounced..?
No, maybe in the days before a fight but not while in regular training\training camp.
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No, maybe in the days before a fight but not while in regular training\training camp.
I thought they talked about OOC tests but if they aren't tested in the off-season then they all are on drugs. No reason not to be. Except maybe those weed smoking brothers who said everone's on them lol.
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The competitive life span of a fighter is very limited. Most fight until it's clear through losses to lessor fighter they are shot. Very few fighters go out on top. Most go out with losses. I will never forget watching Ali against Spinks. Ali was already having neurological problems. You could hear it in his voice. He was slow, soft and couldn't avoid any punch he got from Spinks. No, Spinks never beat Ali. He beat a shell of Ali that was shot.
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..but if they aren't tested in the off-season..
They get tested in the off-season.
But it is easy to avoid a test.
If you switch your trainings camp on short notice nothing happens.
If they can't test you, they don't disqualify you.
Maybe they test you later.
They use short acting stuff, slightly above trt levels. etc.
(as far as i know)
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The competitive life span of a fighter is very limited. Most fight until it's clear through losses to lessor fighter they are shot. Very few fighters go out on top. Most go out with losses. I will never forget watching Ali against Spinks. Ali was already having neurological problems. You could hear it in his voice. He was slow, soft and couldn't avoid any punch he got from Spinks. No, Spinks never beat Ali. He beat a shell of Ali that was shot.
You are aware Ali beat Spinks in the rematch?
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It's a sport not a life and death street fight.
Ultimate Fighter is from the start supposed to be as close to a death match as possible. No rules. That's how it started when it was more underground and better. As UFC progressed and more money got involded and it got more publicity more and more rules came with that. What we want to see who the best fighter is in the world no holds barred. Otherwise we might aswell watch cricket or soccer.
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Ultimate Fighter is from the start supposed to be as close to a death match as possible. No rules. That's how it started when it was more underground and better. As UFC progressed and more money got involded and it got more publicity more and more rules came with that. What we want to see who the best fighter is in the world no holds barred. Otherwise we might aswell watch cricket or soccer.
I agree, but I don't want to see one man bite the other's face off.
proline may know the name of the guy who was repeatedly punched in the balls. There was nothing I enjoyed about watching that. Jon Tom or something. He had a short name.
EDIT: pellius, not proline! Still getting used to typing on this phone.
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I agree, but I don't want to see one man bite the other's face off.
proline may know the name of the guy who was repeatedly punched in the balls. There was nothing I enjoyed about watching that. Jon Tom or something. He had a short name.
Yes, no biting or nut punching. I can agree on that. Otherwise should be good. I think UFC 1 was closer to that. Mainly, I have a problem with weightclasses. That's all.
If you're tiny. Tough luck, pick another sport.
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I agree, but I don't want to see one man bite the other's face off.
proline may know the name of the guy who was repeatedly punched in the balls. There was nothing I enjoyed about watching that. Jon Tom or something. He had a short name.
Joe Son, the poor man's Odd Job.
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Yes, no biting or nut punching. I can agree on that. Otherwise should be good. I think UFC 1 was closer to that. Mainly, I have a problem with weightclasses. That's all.
If you're tiny. Tough luck, pick another sport.
Great post.
There are too many rules now. I wish there was some way to stop eye pokes though. Jon Jones got that one fight changed from Win to No Contest due to that 12-6 angle elbow. And you can't knee a downed opponent, and some other things.
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Joe Son, the poor man's Odd Job.
Yes! Haha...do you remember when he came out with a giant crucifix on his back, and was exhausted before the fight?
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Perfect scenario for both UFC and Conor. Conor v Diaz 3 next. If Conor wins, I'd do Conor v Tony Ferguson. If Conor is less shot than Tony and wins and if Dustin is the champ by then you do Dustin v Conor 3. Now, I happen to think Oliviera will be the last man standing and I can't see Conor being fed to him unless he runs the table on Diaz, Tony and Dustin. Happy as hell for Dustin. That division is better without Khabib in the sense that it is now competitive. I'd only comeback if I were Khabib to fight the winner of Usman and Burns.
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Best thing I could here is he lost.I can’t stand him.
X3
👍🏻
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Ultimate Fighter is from the start supposed to be as close to a death match as possible. No rules. That's how it started when it was more underground and better. As UFC progressed and more money got involded and it got more publicity more and more rules came with that. What we want to see who the best fighter is in the world no holds barred. Otherwise we might aswell watch cricket or soccer.
It was the only way they could get approved to fight in certain states and get onto tv. I hated the old Gracie fights where nothing happened for 20 minutes.
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I watched boxing last night..........main event was a brutal barn burner.
Fuck MMA.
Boxing is an old man's sport and is on it's way out. Enjoy it while you can. Greedy old men destroyed that sport.
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How can that be natural? Is testing the same in Abu Dhabi?
This pic was taken while he was with Bellator and they only test before the fight, aka, virtually no tetsting.
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This pic was taken while he was with Bellator and they only test before the fight, aka, virtually no tetsting.
True, it's Bellator, this is a recent ufc picture.
(https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/91/2020/10/michael-chandler-ufc-254-official-weigh-ins.jpg?w=1000&h=600&crop=1)
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Yes! Haha...do you remember when he came out with a giant crucifix on his back, and was exhausted before the fight?
Yes. And also that karate guy Hackney who beat up on the obese Sumo fighter. The early UFC was more entertainment with less sh1t talking.
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I kinda feel bad for Conor ???
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Mcgregor actually looked twinkish compared to poirier, especially in the back.
It looked like a less talented year round athlete going up against a more talented part-timer.
That whole drunken, coke sniffing paddy act he was putting on for a good part of his prime was moronic.
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Mcgregor actually looked twinkish compared to poirier, especially in the back.
It looked like a less talented year round athlete going up against a more talented part-timer.
That whole drunken, coke sniffing paddy act he was putting on for a good part of his prime was moronic.
It wasn't an act. He is a moron.
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It wasn't an act. He is a moron.
Yeah.
Talk about wasting your prime years.
Like someone else mentioned he has two more fights left to show he can stay in the game and has to win both. Highly doubt he’s going to trend upwards when he’s been on a downward slope for so long now. The drinking and drugs aside he’s got massive personal issues and legal issues that require his attention and can’t just be handed off to a lawyer.
Doesn’t he have criminal cases in the US and abroad?
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I feel the biggest contributor to Connor's lack of success is this:
Hard to truly get into a competitive fighting mode when you know the outcome of the fight will have little impact on your life or finances.
Connor is done and I don't blame him. He has generational wealth, no need to get punched in the face for money.
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I still think Conor can make a HUGE comeback.
Yes, he got knocked out or possibly gave up while being on the receiving end of a shower of strikes, but I don't think he's totally gone the way of Ronda Rousey. Conor has great standup. He's amazing with speed, timing and distance. Those types of gifts go a long way when it comes to the fight game. I think his ground game is very average, nowhere near "very" good, but that was never his forte. He has a good way of reinventing and adding to his arsenal of weapons. Something which many fighters aren't capable of doing.
I can respect the comments suggesting that fighting will not change his financial circumstances much (especially in the UFC - where he probably still cleans $5-10million per fight). That said, money doesn't last forever and while his various side businesses (Proper 12 etc.) likely gross him a pretty penny, it's hard for a guy that was once dirt poor, and who has now grown to be a world superstar, to go back to anything near what he once had to face in the form of adversity. Even if he never ends up poor, it's not out of the realm of possibility as we see time and time again with many professional athletes. When you spend as if you own a printing press at home, it does dwindle and sometimes disappears all together.
Besides, Conor is genuinely entertaining. He's a character, much like a well-polished forum troll that knows how to drop fire by way of incredibly hilarious commentary, Conor knows how to deliver when & where it counts. Separate from that, he is the BIGGEST star in all MMA. The UFC needs rock stars, it's how the company gathers viewers (pay per view buyers and ESPN+ subscribers). Take him out of the picture and while you can slowly create or buy more stars (Chandler etc), it doesn't do the brand well. I see the UFC as a brand that needs these types of characters BADLY. They literally keep the lights on.
Israel Adesanya, Jon Jones, Khabib, McGregor, Artem Lobov etc, these are the types of names that keep this business afloat. Moreso now than ever, when the UFC expects people to become subscribers to ESPN+ (pay a monthly fee for that alone) and then still pay additional fees per each pay per view event. That's bullshit.
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I still think Conor can make a HUGE comeback.
Yes, he got knocked out or possibly gave up while being on the receiving end of a shower of strikes, but I don't think he's totally gone the way of Ronda Rousey. Conor has great standup. He's amazing with speed, timing and distance. Those types of gifts go a long way when it comes to the fight game. I think his ground game is very average, nowhere near "very" good, but that was never his forte. He has a good way of reinventing and adding to his arsenal of weapons. Something which many fighters aren't capable of doing.
I can respect the comments suggesting that fighting will not change his financial circumstances much (especially in the UFC - where he probably still cleans $5-10million per fight). That said, money doesn't last forever and while his various side businesses (Proper 12 etc.) likely gross him a pretty penny, it's hard for a guy that was once dirt poor, and who has now grown to be a world superstar, to go back to anything near what he once had to face in the form of adversity. Even if he never ends up poor, it's not out of the realm of possibility as we see time and time again with many professional athletes. When you spend as if you own a printing press at home, it does dwindle and sometimes disappears all together.
Besides, Conor is genuinely entertaining. He's a character, much like a well-polished forum troll that knows how to drop fire by way of incredibly hilarious commentary, Conor knows how to deliver when & where it counts. Separate from that, he is the BIGGEST star in all MMA. The UFC needs rock stars, it's how the company gathers viewers (pay per view buyers and ESPN+ subscribers). Take him out of the picture and while you can slowly create or buy more stars (Chandler etc), it doesn't do the brand well. I see the UFC as a brand that needs these types of characters BADLY. They literally keep the lights on.
Israel Adesanya, Jon Jones, Khabib, McGregor, Artem Lobov etc, these are the types of names that keep this business afloat. Moreso now than ever, when the UFC expects people to become subscribers to ESPN+ (pay a monthly fee for that alone) and then still pay additional fees per each pay per view event. That's bullshit.
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I agree with a lot of this, but if Connor continues with his new Dad persona all while losing fights, his draw will be severely diminished.
I like Connor's new Dad persona, but it's not what made him so famous.
Let's hope this last fight was truly ring rust.
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Yeah.
Talk about wasting your prime years.
Like someone else mentioned he has two more fights left to show he can stay in the game and has to win both. Highly doubt he’s going to trend upwards when he’s been on a downward slope for so long now. The drinking and drugs aside he’s got massive personal issues and legal issues that require his attention and can’t just be handed off to a lawyer.
Doesn’t he have criminal cases in the US and abroad?
He already made more money than the majority of UFC fighters in their prime years. (Even more than some made during their whole career)
Conor only fights for money now, not legacy
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I agree with a lot of this, but if Connor continues with his new Dad persona all while losing fights, his draw will be severely diminished.
I agree. He needs to go back to being the asshole he once was, only humble after victory or defeat.
This nice guy, heal the world bullshit won't end well for him.
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I agree. He needs to go back to being the asshole he once was, only humble after victory or defeat.
This nice guy, heal the world bullshit won't end well for him.
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He'll def lose a part of his fan-base if he keeps on being humble Dad-Conor
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I still think Conor can make a HUGE comeback.
Yes, he got knocked out or possibly gave up while being on the receiving end of a shower of strikes, but I don't think he's totally gone the way of Ronda Rousey. Conor has great standup. He's amazing with speed, timing and distance. Those types of gifts go a long way when it comes to the fight game. I think his ground game is very average, nowhere near "very" good, but that was never his forte. He has a good way of reinventing and adding to his arsenal of weapons. Something which many fighters aren't capable of doing.
I can respect the comments suggesting that fighting will not change his financial circumstances much (especially in the UFC - where he probably still cleans $5-10million per fight). That said, money doesn't last forever and while his various side businesses (Proper 12 etc.) likely gross him a pretty penny, it's hard for a guy that was once dirt poor, and who has now grown to be a world superstar, to go back to anything near what he once had to face in the form of adversity. Even if he never ends up poor, it's not out of the realm of possibility as we see time and time again with many professional athletes. When you spend as if you own a printing press at home, it does dwindle and sometimes disappears all together.
Besides, Conor is genuinely entertaining. He's a character, much like a well-polished forum troll that knows how to drop fire by way of incredibly hilarious commentary, Conor knows how to deliver when & where it counts. Separate from that, he is the BIGGEST star in all MMA. The UFC needs rock stars, it's how the company gathers viewers (pay per view buyers and ESPN+ subscribers). Take him out of the picture and while you can slowly create or buy more stars (Chandler etc), it doesn't do the brand well. I see the UFC as a brand that needs these types of characters BADLY. They literally keep the lights on.
Israel Adesanya, Jon Jones, Khabib, McGregor, Artem Lobov etc, these are the types of names that keep this business afloat. Moreso now than ever, when the UFC expects people to become subscribers to ESPN+ (pay a monthly fee for that alone) and then still pay additional fees per each pay per view event. That's bullshit.
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Conor has a lot of self brought on Crap going on in his life
He’s in with a dangerous crowd to protect him from another group who were after Him.
Plus his recreational lifestyle isn’t helping him.
Also police involvement going on.
I don’t find Conor entertaining at all & See him as a loud mouth Bully & Not What the MMA world
Really needs as a Poster Boy. He’s a seriously Flawed Character > Punching a older man for not wanting
A glass of Whiskey 🙄 FFS.
Still Opinions Vary. 👍🏻
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I feel the biggest contributor to Connor's lack of success is this:
Hard to truly get into a competitive fighting mode when you know the outcome of the fight will have little impact on your life or finances.
Connor is done and I don't blame him. He has generational wealth, no need to get punched in the face for money.
I agree. But, I've seen countless athletes lose generational wealth too. And his side gigs like proper 12 will be unlikely to stay successful if he's out of the public sphere. I think he might try another 1 or 2 more fights, or perhaps transition to WWE.
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I agree with a lot of this, but if Connor continues with his new Dad persona all while losing fights, his draw will be severely diminished.
I like Connor's new Dad persona, but it's not what made him so famous.
Let's hope this last fight was truly ring rust.
I agree with your post largely agreeing with OneRepMax's post.
I feel that the UFC needs Conor, but I think he's a #2-4 ranked lightweight. That's fine - excellent even - but when your brand is "untouchable", it just doesn't work.
You can't go 0-2. I guess McGregor was 0-2 if you consider the Mayweather boxing match, but the main thing with that match was that Conor exceeded expectations.
Hence it was good for his brand.
The Khabib loss was overshadowed by Khabib's behaviour after his win - it actually overshadowed Conor's loss.
Cowboy Cerrone was given to Conor to beat, because average fans thought of it was some heavier weight class win [which it was], without considering that Cowboy had many miles, as a seasoned veteran who fought to long.
Conor CAN avenge this loss to Poirier...but he would need a win. And if he beats anyone but the #3 contender, he's not going to be thought of as potentially the best.
UFC fans may not get the fact that untouchable champions is a boxing phenomenon. Very, very few UFC/MMA fans go on streaks of 10-0 or better. That's a boxing thing.
The UFC needs to recognize this, and have a couple of backup stars to promote if their #1 star falters.
As you said, Conor had a certain persons. You can't take that. It's almost a cult of personality with Conor.
PS - is a "paddy" an ethnic slur for an Irish person?
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Martyn Ford will go 100-0 in mma
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I agree with your post largely agreeing with OneRepMax's post.
I feel that the UFC needs Conor, but I think he's a #2-4 ranked lightweight. That's fine - excellent even - but when your brand is "untouchable", it just doesn't work.
You can't go 0-2. I guess McGregor was 0-2 if you consider the Mayweather boxing match, but the main thing with that match was that Conor exceeded expectations.
Hence it was good for his brand.
The Khabib loss was overshadowed by Khabib's behaviour after his win - it actually overshadowed Conor's loss.
Cowboy Cerrone was given to Conor to beat, because average fans thought of it was some heavier weight class win [which it was], without considering that Cowboy had many miles, as a seasoned veteran who fought to long.
Conor CAN avenge this loss to Poirier...but he would need a win. And if he beats anyone but the #3 contender, he's not going to be thought of as potentially the best.
UFC fans may not get the fact that untouchable champions is a boxing phenomenon. Very, very few UFC/MMA fans go on streaks of 10-0 or better. That's a boxing thing.
The UFC needs to recognize this, and have a couple of backup stars to promote if their #1 star falters.
As you said, Conor had a certain persons. You can't take that. It's almost a cult of personality with Conor.
PS - is a "paddy" an ethnic slur for an Irish person?
McGregor and the UFC promotion had built up an aura of invincibility as his ring persona.
That only works if you are winning in a convincing fashion.
Once that aura is gone (Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson) a fighter never recovers.
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Dude is a straight up asshole......punching an old man in the back of his head in a bar for basically no reason.
He needed an asswhipping.
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McGregor and the UFC promotion had built up an aura of invincibility as his ring persona.
That only works if you are winning in a convincing fashion.
Once that aura is gone (Buster Douglas vs. Mike Tyson) a fighter never recovers.
Exactly - I think that's the issue at hand.
Even GSP's decision wins were fine, because he won every round, and controlled the fights he was in.
Losing 2 of 2 of his only lightweight fights in the past four years...I just don't see how the UFC can keep milking McGregor's brand unless he beats a high ranking lightweight this year - ideally soon.
I feel like the UFC needs McGregor's star power. There comes a point where individual athletes are bigger than the league, and McGregor is such a star, IMO.
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Exactly - I think that's the issue at hand.
Even GSP's decision wins were fine, because he won every round, and controlled the fights he was in.
Losing 2 of 2 of his only lightweight fights in the past four years...I just don't see how the UFC can keep milking McGregor's brand unless he beats a high ranking lightweight this year - ideally soon.
I feel like the UFC needs McGregor's star power. There comes a point where individual athletes are bigger than the league, and McGregor is such a star, IMO.
Poirer v Oliviera should be for the UFC title next.
Gaethje v Chandler on the undercard for the next number 1 contender.
If Conor can be built back, I'd go in this order: Diaz 3, Ferguson and if successful, Poirer 3. If he can't beat Diaz, hang it up for good. If he runs the table on those 3, he's either the champ again (if Dustin has the title when they meet) or he has earned the right to fight Chandler, Gaethje or Oliviera depending on who has the belt.
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(https://i.ibb.co/34nys1L/conor-upload.jpg)
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I like watching him lose.
Never really liked him anyway.
Good fighter, but the attitude ruins it. Him and the Diaz brothers can jump off the nearest cliff.
I hope he get's KO'ed like a limp cooked noodle next fight. ;D
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I like watching him lose.
Never really liked him anyway.
Good fighter, but the attitude ruins it. Him and the Diaz brothers can jump off the nearest cliff.
I hope he get's KO'ed like a limp cooked noodle next fight. ;D
Yes, i think he is twistet in real life and i wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in prison.
As a fighter he is exciting, no dry humping + some of the fastest UFC finishes.
I think he will bounce back. He destroyed Dustin Prior in his first fight.
This one was not bad
https://mmacore.tv/videos/Chad_Mendes_vs_Conor_McGregor_Full_Fight_UFC_189_Round_1/10105764
I hope he get's KO'ed like a limp cooked noodle next fight. ;D
Let's see, he will fight again 100% ;)
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What interesting about conor was is that he fought many realy good guys in a short time period.
And he destroyed them like Dustin Poirier in his first fight. + His trash-talk.
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Martyn Ford will go 100-0 in mma
He's almost there. Only 100 fights left.
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McGregor is entertaining. He is done though. Like all fighters is time has passed. It was fun though.
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There was an old man in a bar in Ireland someplace laughing his ass off watching this fight.
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McGregor is entertaining. He is done though. Like all fighters is time has passed. It was fun though.
I agree with this. Although he may fight again, the insane hunger that he once had is gone. He was the ruthless talker and fighter, inspired by the desire to be where he is today. He achieved and surpassed what he set out to do.
I see zero reason for him to fight. He should try coaching or something.
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I agree with this. Although he may fight again, the insane hunger that he once had is gone. He was the ruthless talker and fighter, inspired by the desire to be where he is today. He achieved and surpassed what he set out to do.
I see zero reason for him to fight. He should try coaching or something.
Guys like him don't make good coaches/trainers. Ego is too big to see his fighters get the limelight.
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Matt, paddy and mick would be slurs but the Irish would laugh it off unlike other “ethnicities” who many cry if you say the N word yet they use it in every fuckin song
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I agree with this. Although he may fight again, the insane hunger that he once had is gone. He was the ruthless talker and fighter, inspired by the desire to be where he is today. He achieved and surpassed what he set out to do.
I see zero reason for him to fight. He should try coaching or something.
But the wolf on the hill--
The wolf on the hill, right...
is not as hungry
as the wolf climbing the hill.
That's true, he's not as hungry.
But when he wants the food, it's there.
;D
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I still think Conor can make a HUGE comeback.
Yes, he got knocked out or possibly gave up while being on the receiving end of a shower of strikes, but I don't think he's totally gone the way of Ronda Rousey. Conor has great standup. He's amazing with speed, timing and distance. Those types of gifts go a long way when it comes to the fight game. I think his ground game is very average, nowhere near "very" good, but that was never his forte. He has a good way of reinventing and adding to his arsenal of weapons. Something which many fighters aren't capable of doing.
I can respect the comments suggesting that fighting will not change his financial circumstances much (especially in the UFC - where he probably still cleans $5-10million per fight). That said, money doesn't last forever and while his various side businesses (Proper 12 etc.) likely gross him a pretty penny, it's hard for a guy that was once dirt poor, and who has now grown to be a world superstar, to go back to anything near what he once had to face in the form of adversity. Even if he never ends up poor, it's not out of the realm of possibility as we see time and time again with many professional athletes. When you spend as if you own a printing press at home, it does dwindle and sometimes disappears all together.
Besides, Conor is genuinely entertaining. He's a character, much like a well-polished forum troll that knows how to drop fire by way of incredibly hilarious commentary, Conor knows how to deliver when & where it counts. Separate from that, he is the BIGGEST star in all MMA. The UFC needs rock stars, it's how the company gathers viewers (pay per view buyers and ESPN+ subscribers). Take him out of the picture and while you can slowly create or buy more stars (Chandler etc), it doesn't do the brand well. I see the UFC as a brand that needs these types of characters BADLY. They literally keep the lights on.
Israel Adesanya, Jon Jones, Khabib, McGregor, Artem Lobov etc, these are the types of names that keep this business afloat. Moreso now than ever, when the UFC expects people to become subscribers to ESPN+ (pay a monthly fee for that alone) and then still pay additional fees per each pay per view event. That's bullshit.
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Artem Lobov?
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Artem Lobov?
That was the inclusion of humor to keep it funny for the masses.
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He already made more money than the majority of UFC fighters in their prime years. (Even more than some made during their whole career)
Conor only fights for money now, not legacy
Actually, it seems to me to be the opposite. He doesn't need money but his legacy as a fighter has been tarnished. He is no longer thought of as this "Mystic Mac" who has this unworldly talent. His several losses no longer puts him in the top of top like GPS, Jones, and Silva in his prime. He will need several big wins to put him back on the legend list and he can use ring rust as an excuse for this recent lost.
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He got too much too soon. Lost the hunger and the drive to get better. Also, if we're honest, after his impressive run through 145 including Aldo nothing has been particularly impressive at all since then. His wins against Max, Dustin and Mendes were very good and look better as time goes on. After that? Credit for knocking Aldo cold. But, Aldo lost that fight before the bell even rang. Conor mind fucked him. Eddie Alvarez? Conor probably got lucky that Alvarez got lucky against RDA. Alvarez was tailor made for Conor. Khabib beat him in every facet of the game. Cowboy has been shot for years. Dustin made relatively easy work out of him. Where does he go from here? Diaz makes the most sense. Both in terms of money and a very winnable fight. Lose to Diaz and retire. Win and it has to be impressively and he's on the way to a rebuild. I've probably said this already but I'd go Diaz, Ferguson and then Poirer.
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People would love Ferguson VS Conor
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That was the inclusion of humor to keep it funny for the masses.
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Ah.
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoz2NxfzdX-XEDsJZG0xZ0jPAIbS_veQK2LA&usqp=CAU)
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bumped into this analysis on the tubes
interesting