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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: denarii on January 25, 2021, 11:13:39 AM
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9185453/Notorious-Essex-Boys-killer-Jack-Whomes-released-prison.html
Some say they were innocent and the hit was ordered to take the heat off the higher upps after Leah Betts died, whether those higher ups were in London or Amsterdam is less clear.
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whats up with the Gee boys? They were interesing
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He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate
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He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate
Or maybe Bernard o'mahoney will find him and bore him to death with a slow conversation
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Or maybe Bernard o'mahoney will find him and bore him to death with a slow conversation
Forrrr Goddsssss Sakeeeeeeee!! That man can not have a conversation at all without bringing up "Range Rover murders" every second sentence. He's a fucking nobody that claims to have insider information into the crime (and nearly every other crime happening in Essex), but in reality, he is just a damn nobody that happened to have his photo taken with Pat Tate and Tony Tucker a few times and managed to turn that into a hard rep for himself while acting like he was deep in the scene.
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Dave Courtney's son in law was supposedly killed by the uncle...pretty unlikely.
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What happened to those two kids who killed that 18-month-old in England around 1993?
I was about the same age as the murderers, but was in a Thunder Bay comic book store when the murder took place.
Now, my guess is such a murder would barely make the news, as it's more of a monthly event in England these days.
Lol @ a society bent on importing the Middle East out of fear of being called a word. From owning 25% of the globe, to becoming minorities in an island the size of Michigan. My dad's dad was born in Newfoundland when England, and I would seldom admit that. It's possible that the English are even more pathetic and gutless than White Canadians - although my brother insists that it's only the corrupt elected officials, and that a large majority of White English people oppose their own government.
Brexit gave me hope, but I think England is being punished for it now.
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Who? What? Why? Huh?
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They were both given new identities. One of them became a convicted pedo, the other lived a normal life.
Thank you for letting me know.
I always wondered...was one of the two boys sort of dragged into it by the other?
I found the incident sick at the time...I still do. There was one documentary I watched on it where someone called in and said that the boys should be executed for the murder. I don't even think England has the death penalty [?]. Canada had it, for the crime of treason, until 1998. I think it makes sense to have it for treason. I think it makes sense, period, but only for murders you can prove beyond any doubt [video/DNA evidence, and not circumstantial or witness-only evidence].
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London faggets again?
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the "hardman" celebrity circuit is comical.
remember that baby dick'd fat midget dave courtney and his 12 year old black boyfriend with the dodgy haircut
The original hardmen, in the UK, most of the so-called hardmen around, were anything but hard. There are some legit ones, McClean, Lew Yates, Paul Sykes, Leach (to a minimal degree),... but the others that claimed to be hardmen were pussies for the most part. Viv Graham wouldn't fight one on one, he always had to have his mates with him. Lee Duffy was known for knocking people out with sucker punches. People that had no idea they were about to be punched. He would walk up and punch them out of the blue for no reason other than to just knock someone out. Even the Krays despite their reputations were sucker punchers too. One offering the victim a cigerette and then flicking up a lighter, when the victim leaned in to light the cig, the other kray would nail him in his out stretched jaw.
The celebrity hardmen are laughable. Tom Hardy? Eminem? Suge Knight? WTF?
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wasnt Suge Knight a leading Crip or Blood, and OG?
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He will wish he never left prison when Darren avery reads this thread and tracks him down and makes him pay for murdering one of his hero’s pat tate
I dont think the guys convicted are the ones that did it.
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Bernard o Mahoney is such a clown I'm surprised Vince McMahon didnt hire him to play Doink.
Bernard was made for the role
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Vinnie Jones is playing bernard in the next rise of the footsoldier movie.
Crazy the actual range rover was used in bonded by blood movie and back on the road
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some of these Hard men loved the cock
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ronnie-kray-fancied-you-you-6376849
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Thank you for letting me know.
I always wondered...was one of the two boys sort of dragged into it by the other?
I found the incident sick at the time...I still do. There was one documentary I watched on it where someone called in and said that the boys should be executed for the murder. I don't even think England has the death penalty [?]. Canada had it, for the crime of treason, until 1998. I think it makes sense to have it for treason. I think it makes sense, period, but only for murders you can prove beyond any doubt [video/DNA evidence, and not circumstantial or witness-only evidence].
The 2 lads were Robert Thompson & Jon Venables
Both got given completely new identities 🤬
Thompson was thought to be the leader & main instigator- Apparently He has not committed
Any other offences since being released & is Living with another man.. queer fuck Murderer
Who knows who he is & his crime.
IIRC it is a crime to try & find his new identity or address an arrestable offence. FFS 🤬
Jon Venables is a right Vermin Scumbag who has been sent to prison multiple times
For boasting about who he is to work colleagues, Cocaine & fights, also has been caught
At least Twice with Child Pornographic sex abuse Images 🤬😡🤬 - Ha has been given 2
Other new identities- FFS why do they bother looking after such Human Vermin.
They Both should be strung up in an iron man cage naked & covered in honey & left to starve
& the animals & birds to Eat. That’s still to good for them.
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I dont think the guys convicted are the ones that did it.
Apparently so. Though they’ve Kept very quiet about Who actually Did kill them.
Either Big £ Or Big Fear at Play.
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Tate was a decent warrior of the iron
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Brutal
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Carlton
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these guys are musicians etc.
I meant more that UK circuit of "hardmen" pushing hardmen books, doing speaking gigs about hardmen stuff and getting old tarts like that kate kray slag hanging around them.
It seems to be less nowadays, as with the internet it's harder to get away with BS stories.
Marvin Herbert is/was pretty legit.
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The original hardmen, in the UK, most of the so-called hardmen around, were anything but hard. There are some legit ones, McClean, Lew Yates, Paul Sykes, Leach (to a minimal degree),... but the others that claimed to be hardmen were pussies for the most part. Viv Graham wouldn't fight one on one, he always had to have his mates with him. Lee Duffy was known for knocking people out with sucker punches. People that had no idea they were about to be punched. He would walk up and punch them out of the blue for no reason other than to just knock someone out. Even the Krays despite their reputations were sucker punchers too. One offering the victim a cigerette and then flicking up a lighter, when the victim leaned in to light the cig, the other kray would nail him in his out stretched jaw.
The celebrity hardmen are laughable. Tom Hardy? Eminem? Suge Knight? WTF?
Haha what are you basing viv graham being a pussy? Do you believe you could have beat him one on one? There have been the odd bad story about him and the footage of them being unable to put down that doorman showed him in a very bad light but the bloke was legit hard, doubt he ran Durham nick when he was in there due to only being able to fight with his mates behind him nor would he have been shot dead to get him out the way when they could have just showed up with a few mates themselves and give him a good hiding?
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Haha what are you basing viv graham being a pussy? Do you believe you could have beat him one on one? There have been the odd bad story about him and the footage of them being unable to put down that doorman showed him in a very bad light but the bloke was legit hard, doubt he ran Durham nick when he was in there due to only being able to fight with his mates behind him nor would he have been shot dead to get him out the way when they could have just showed up with a few mates themselves and give him a good hiding?
The fact that Lew Yates himself wrote that during a legit agreed upon bare knuckle fight against one of Viv's friends (which took place in a scrap iron yard), Viv punched him in back of his head while he was fighting the other guy. When he didn't go down, Viv ran to hide in the office where he found and almost wet his pants having to apologize for the cheap shot.
Other's have written the same thing about him to varying degrees. Pretty sure him being shot dead had nothing to do with any fight or such.
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The fact that Lew Yates himself wrote that during a legit agreed upon bare knuckle fight against one of Viv's friends (which took place in a scrap iron yard), Viv punched him in back of his head while he was fighting the other guy. When he didn't go down, Viv ran to hide in the office where he found and almost wet his pants having to apologize for the cheap shot.
Other's have written the same thing about him to varying degrees. Pretty sure him being shot dead had nothing to do with any fight or such.
Never heard that one heard a similar one about him giving Ernie Berwick sly dig when he was getting the better of one of vivs mate, there is some bad shit out there but it doesent mean he wasn’t a legit hard bloke, my dad worked with a doorman who was a big national level bodybuilder who though he could take viv and he himself admitted viv put him away so fast he never stood a chance there many locals can recall the times he was about, he was shot as he wouldn’t allow drugs in the pubs and clubs he looked after
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Never heard that one heard a similar one about him giving Ernie Berwick sly dig when he was getting the better of one of vivs mate, there is some bad shit out there but it doesent mean he wasn’t a legit hard bloke, my dad worked with a doorman who was a big national level bodybuilder who though he could take viv and he himself admitted viv put him away so fast he never stood a chance there many locals can recall the times he was about, he was shot as he wouldn’t allow drugs in the pubs and clubs he looked after
Not saying you are but i laugh at the bellends who praise these low lifes.
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Never heard that one heard a similar one about him giving Ernie Berwick sly dig when he was getting the better of one of vivs mate, there is some bad shit out there but it doesent mean he wasn’t a legit hard bloke, my dad worked with a doorman who was a big national level bodybuilder who though he could take viv and he himself admitted viv put him away so fast he never stood a chance there many locals can recall the times he was about, he was shot as he wouldn’t allow drugs in the pubs and clubs he looked after
Yates was trying to get Shaw to accept a fight challenge of his and Shaw was dodging him. Yates decided out of frustration to fight someone that Shaw was friendly with to try to make Shaw take him on. Yates arrived at the fight location alone by himself. Viv was there. During the fight, when Yates was turning the other guy inside out, Viv jumped up there and unloaded punches in the back of Yates head. dropped yates down to his knee. He recovered and knocked the guy out. Went looking for Viv and found him cowering in an office. Viv kept apologizing over and over and wouldn't look Yates in the eyes. Yates offered Viv a chance to come back out to the ring and settle things up and Viv begged off.
Was a common theme in some books I read. Viv wouldn't do anything unless he had a crew nearby. All those times Duffy went looking for him, Viv would never show his face. Even when Duffy was kicking the ass of his doormen and hanging out in the bar for several hours waiting for him.
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Viv Graham was friends with Roy Shaw?
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Viv Graham was friends with Roy Shaw?
That I do not know.
From what was written, the man that Yates fought was someone that Shaw knew and was friendly with. When the fight went down, there was a crowd gathered at this scrap iron junk car type business. They went into the main building where a ring had been set up for Yates and this guy to fight. Viv was one of the people who showed up to watch the fight. During the course of the fight between Yates and this guy, Viv got involved and sucker punched Yates in the back of the head.
Yate's book is worth a read. I recommend it over a lot of the other fluff out there. Lenny's book is good too. Although he omits the couple of fights that he lost and still proclaims himself undefeated.
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That I do not know.
From what was written, the man that Yates fought was someone that Shaw knew and was friendly with. When the fight went down, there was a crowd gathered at this scrap iron junk car type business. They went into the main building where a ring had been set up for Yates and this guy to fight. Viv was one of the people who showed up to watch the fight. During the course of the fight between Yates and this guy, Viv got involved and sucker punched Yates in the back of the head.
Yate's book is worth a read. I recommend it over a lot of the other fluff out there. Lenny's book is good too. Although he omits the couple of fights that he lost and still proclaims himself undefeated.
Was it definitely viv? I just looked up that Yates fought shaw in 81 and viv would have only been 22 assuming then and I’m assuming this event happened a bit prior?
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I read Yates book, think he worked doors with carlton leach. Out of all them though I think Brian Cockerill is the one I'd least want after me
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I read Yates book, think he worked doors with carlton leach. Out of all them though I think Brian Cockerill is the one I'd least want after me
Brian Cockerill from what i read liked to bum his victims to degrade them & took pictures..or was that another hard man :-\
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Brian Cockerill from what i read liked to bum his victims to degrade them & took pictures..or was that another hard man :-\
Haha I think it was someone else I remember hearing similar but forget who it was about
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Haha I think it was someone else I remember hearing similar but forget who it was about
ahh yes i think it was a scouse twat :D
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Brian Cockerill from what i read liked to bum his victims to degrade them & took pictures..or was that another hard man :-\
That was the Noonan family in Manchester
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That was the Noonan family in Manchester
no was a scouser. liked to bum the guys. The Noonan guy raped young girls (if true i do not know) they were Manc scum.
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no was a scouser. liked to bum the guys. The Noonan guy raped young girls (if true i do not know) they were Manc scum.
The Noonan guy definitely raped boys.
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Brian Cockerill from what i read liked to bum his victims to degrade them & took pictures..or was that another hard man :-\
I have not gotten around to reading his books. Which one would you recommend?
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no was a scouser. liked to bum the guys. The Noonan guy raped young girls (if true i do not know) they were Manc scum.
Paul Sykes would bum poor fuckers in jail and put page three on the back of their head while he was rutting away.
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Post some of the books here that you have read about these hardmen.
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Marvin Herbert is interviewed by Shaun Attwood
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Paul Sykes would bum poor fuckers in jail and put page three on the back of their head while he was rutting away.
heard that story too. ended up the town drunk sleeping on the streets. he was a boxer when younger though but could not control the Demon drink & his lust for violence & bumming young men. ;D
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Post some of the books here that you have read about these hardmen.
Lenny McLean
Roy Shaw
John houchen
Brian Cockerill
Lee Duffy
Essex boys
Sayers
Gunn family fron Nottingham
Charles Bronson
Krays
Richardson
Legacy- which is about the biggest gangster this country's ever seen
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Sykes got beaten by a guy called John Gardner i think it was 1979, not sure for the British and commonwealth heavyweight title.
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Sykes got beaten by a guy called John Gardner i think it was 1979, not sure for the British and commonwealth heavyweight title.
Apparently quite a talented boxer when younger & Likely would’ve done well in the Pro Ranks
Had he Kept off Drink & Out of Prison. Got the fight with John Gardener after 7-8 Pro fights
& as you state Gardener was British & Commonwealth Champ.
From what I’ve heard he was a Bully & Right Twat, More so when he’d had a few to Drink.
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Lenny McLean
Roy Shaw
John houchen
Brian Cockerill
Lee Duffy
Essex boys
Sayers
Gunn family fron Nottingham
Charles Bronson
Krays
Richardson
Legacy- which is about the biggest gangster this country's ever seen
And How many Did you “Know” Rub Shoulders with Darren??
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And How many Did you “Know” Rub Shoulders with Darren??
NONE
They were NOTHING compared to Darren!
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Apparently quite a talented boxer when younger & Likely would’ve done well in the Pro Ranks
Had he Kept off Drink & Out of Prison. Got the fight with John Gardener after 7-8 Pro fights
& as you state Gardener was British & Commonwealth Champ.
From what I’ve heard he was a Bully & Right Twat, More so when he’d had a few to Drink.
Yes from what i have read from various people he was a bad bully & a real menace in the bars where he lived. He was apparently a hard man though & could fight in the ring & on the cobbles. I just do not know why people praise the guy though or any of these thugs.
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Lenny McLean read
Roy Shaw read
John houchen don't know this guy
Brian Cockerill can't find it on any download sites
Lee Duffy read, was bored to tears for the most part
Essex boys read, read the other, forced to read the next one, etc... because OMahoney can't shut the hell up about it
Sayers tried to but lost interest.
Gunn family fron Nottingham don't know these
Charles Bronson read
Krays read.. started out good but later years in prison were too worried about their "brand" and doing a shitty job with it
Richardson don't know this one
Legacy- which is about the biggest gangster this country's ever seen never heard of this
thanks, I will look some of these up.
I would recommend Lew Yates Wild Thing, Carlton Leach, there is another book that is basically a collection of stories of various hardmen, it was good. But have never like anything written by that nipper guy. dude is too busy trying to build his own rep by including himself with others. Like Omahoney did.
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thanks, I will look some of these up.
I would recommend Lew Yates Wild Thing, Carlton Leach, there is another book that is basically a collection of stories of various hardmen, it was good. But have never like anything written by that nipper guy. dude is too busy trying to build his own rep by including himself with others. Like Omahoney did.
Leach by name, Leach by nature. he lives of all the Essex Boys Bullshit.
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Paul Sykes would bum poor fuckers in jail and put page three on the back of their head while he was rutting away.
Nonce bully who ran away when he got hurt
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Nonce bully who ran away when he got hurt
what happend? also read there was one particular doorman he never messed with in his home town. can´t remember his name. a lot of these guys picked on random weaker guys.
There is a video about sykes and you see how he bullied his own kids. horrible guy. no wonder they both ened up in jail too.
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what happend? also read there was one particular doorman he never messed with in his home town. can´t remember his name. a lot of these guys picked on random weaker guys.
There is a video about sykes and you see how he bullied his own kids. horrible guy. no wonder they both ened up in jail too.
What sort of stinking cunt bullies their own kids for fucks sake what an absolute piece of shit
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What sort of stinking cunt bullies their own kids for fucks sake what an absolute piece of shit
can see it here.
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what happend? also read there was one particular doorman he never messed with in his home town. can´t remember his name. a lot of these guys picked on random weaker guys.
There is a video about sykes and you see how he bullied his own kids. horrible guy. no wonder they both ened up in jail too.
Billy Griffiths?
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WTF - Horrible Father - Deserves Zero Respect in any way.