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Title: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Palumboism on January 28, 2021, 01:31:05 PM
GM Intends To Stop Selling Gasoline Vehicles By 2035, Will Be Carbon Neutral By 2040
BY Michael Gauthier

We spoke to GM spokesperson Jessica James, who told CarScoops that the company’s “intent is to transition to zero emissions vehicles / EVs in our light-duty portfolio by 2035.  Light duty includes everything from cars and crossovers to light-duty trucks and full-size SUVs.”

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/01/gm-plans-to-eliminate-tailpipe-emissions-by-2035-and-be-carbon-neutral-by-2040/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2021/01/gm-plans-to-eliminate-tailpipe-emissions-by-2035-and-be-carbon-neutral-by-2040/)


GM plans to exclusively offer electric vehicles by 2035, ending production of its cars, trucks and SUVs with diesel- and gasoline-powered engines.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html)


Expect other manufacturers to make similar announcements this year.  KIA, Audi, and Lincoln have all said they'll be transitioning to All electric.

GM is investing $27 Billion into electric and autonomous vesicles.  30 new electric vehicles will be launched by 2025.


Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: TheShape. on January 28, 2021, 01:33:55 PM
What do they think charges electric cars? Honestly really. They’ll go completely bankrupt by 2035.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 28, 2021, 01:41:54 PM
People will be more worried about food than cars in 2035.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: epic is back on January 28, 2021, 01:43:32 PM
What do they think charges electric cars? Honestly really. They’ll go completely bankrupt by 2035.

correct

ford is the only good company

non commie
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: epic is back on January 28, 2021, 01:44:30 PM
People will be more worried about food than cars in 2035.

do you think the millennial uber drivers will eat my food before its delivered?

say it aint so!!

id never let a fat ugly green hairs pscycho handle my food
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Mothballs on January 28, 2021, 01:46:24 PM
It’s always about feelings over facts when it comes to libtards.

38% of electricity currently powered by coal.

Coal creates more CO2 emissions than oil.

Raise coal electricity = raise CO2 emissions.

But everyone is happy because no one knows where electricity comes from. They still teach it comes from lightning and a key.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: harmankardon1 on January 28, 2021, 01:50:56 PM
Retarded....
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: BlackMetallic on January 28, 2021, 01:52:26 PM
It’s always about feelings over facts when it comes to libtards.

38% of electricity currently powered by coal.

Coal creates more CO2 emissions than oil.

Raise coal electricity = raise CO2 emissions.

But everyone is happy because no one knows where electricity comes from. They still teach it comes from lightning and a key.

Food comes from the store, water comes from the tap, and electricity comes from the outlet is their thinking
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 28, 2021, 01:53:04 PM
do you think the millennial uber drivers will eat my food before its delivered?

say it aint so!!

id never let a fat ugly green hairs pscycho handle my food


Good news, they'll be skinnier.

Bad news, no food to deliver.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Palumboism on January 28, 2021, 02:31:08 PM
Nissan Is Going Carbon Neutral, Will Electrify All Models In Major Markets
BY Michael Gauthier

General Motors made waves today when they announced plans to phase out internal combustion engines and become carbon neutral by 2040.

They’re not alone in that mission as Nissan also intends to be carbon neutral by 2050.

While the Japanese automaker will lag behind GM, the company said every Nissan in key markets – including Japan, China, Europe and the U.S. – will be electrified by the early 2030s. However, they won’t necessarily be battery electric vehicles as the company plans to further develop their e-Power powertrains that feature a range-extending petrol engine.

https://www.carscoops.com/2021/01/nissan-is-going-carbon-neutral-will-electrify-all-models-in-major-markets/ (https://www.carscoops.com/2021/01/nissan-is-going-carbon-neutral-will-electrify-all-models-in-major-markets/)


Looks like Nissan wants to go all electric in the 2030's too.

Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: IroNat on January 28, 2021, 02:36:38 PM
GM makes sh*t cars and trucks.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Marty Champions on January 28, 2021, 04:32:26 PM
Would rather build my own vehicle,
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Bindare_Dundat on January 28, 2021, 04:39:49 PM
GM makes sh*t cars and trucks.

This. GM is absolute shit 
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on January 28, 2021, 04:43:41 PM
It's the new hip thing to do. Let's be carbon neutral.  ;)

They will fail, so will Amazon and the rest of these companies that claim they will be neutral in 20-30 years.

It's all a façade to market themselves as pioneers in the industry. GM has been doing this for years.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: J. Richards on January 28, 2021, 05:05:04 PM
how would you do that?...   well ,,,,  go down to Radio Shack,,, pick up some parts ;D
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on January 28, 2021, 05:06:14 PM
How would you go about doing that?

I'd get it one piece at a time and it wouldn't cost me a dime.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on January 28, 2021, 05:09:25 PM
GM makes sh*t cars and trucks.

Pretty much.

It's not really just GM, but the shit companies they have build their parts.

Most of their major failures in the last 20 years have been due to piss poor manufacturing and "mistakes" by their sub consultants in the manufacturing industry. GM refuses to admit the mistakes unless they cause loss of life, just sweeps them under the rug and issues a few recalls.

Which is GM's fault in the end, but all American automakers are pretty much shit these days anyway.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: residue on January 28, 2021, 05:14:10 PM
It’s always about feelings over facts when it comes to libtards.

38% of electricity currently powered by coal.

Coal creates more CO2 emissions than oil.

Raise coal electricity = raise CO2 emissions.

But everyone is happy because no one knows where electricity comes from. They still teach it comes from lightning and a key.

that's if everything remains static, which is never does. Coal is trending down, as it has been the last 10 years while renewable sources are trending up
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 28, 2021, 06:43:44 PM
correct

ford is the only good company

non commie


Agreed. Too bad they waited so long to release the Bronco. Missed out on that Trump economy and low gas $$.  :D
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Old School Trainer on January 28, 2021, 08:31:03 PM
Wait until farmers can't afford gas/diesel for their tractors and have to purchase a 2-million dollar John Deer get up.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 28, 2021, 11:57:59 PM
Lol...Ford projects to be carbon neutral as well....

PRO TIP: Know what you're talking about before opening mouth...lol


You have 11 posts and low reading comprehension.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 29, 2021, 03:17:03 AM
How would you go about doing that?
The Amish do it. ;D
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Humble Narcissist on January 29, 2021, 03:19:09 AM

You have 11 posts and low reading comprehension.
Be careful, he's a mass monster.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: SOMEPARTS on January 29, 2021, 06:47:25 AM
Oh is that what it is? Ok.


Be gone all caps gimmick.  :D
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: DooM_ on January 29, 2021, 07:06:58 AM
and where will all this electricity come from . . . ?
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Kwon on March 01, 2021, 08:12:20 AM

You have 11 posts and low reading comprehension.

Lol!
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Tapeworm on March 01, 2021, 08:46:45 AM
that's if everything remains static, which is never does. Coal is trending down, as it has been the last 10 years while renewable sources are trending up

I've yet to see a convincing accounting of solar or wind which shows it produces more over its serviceable lifetime than the energy required to mine the materials, make it, transport it, and install it. Nevermind the batteries.

If such an accounting existed, it would be all we would hear about. A solar array can't produce enough energy to make another solat array. So in what sense is it sustainable?

I lean toward nuclear, even though mishaps are catastrophic. If they manage not to fuck up it's clean and bountiful.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: sync pulse on March 01, 2021, 08:52:49 AM
I'd get it one piece at a time and it wouldn't cost me a dime.

Isn't this a Johnny Cash song?
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 01, 2021, 09:40:16 AM
Isn't this a Johnny Cash song?

Yup, glad someone caught that. ;D
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Flexacon on March 01, 2021, 10:24:47 AM
In reality this has nothing to do with going carbon neutral and pandering to lefties.

The tech required to make solar and wind energy viable (highly profitable) isn't very far off. Nuclear energy will also become sexy again. Battery technology has vastly improved and will continue to do so.

This isn't about going green, it's about the bottom line. They will be a far more profitable business by going electric as demand for petrol powered vehicles will dry up. It will just be something for enthusiasts, kinda like those who get off on steam engines.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 01, 2021, 10:38:32 AM
In reality this has nothing to do with going carbon neutral and pandering to lefties.

The tech required to make solar and wind energy viable (highly profitable) isn't very far off. Nuclear energy will also become sexy again. Battery technology has vastly improved and will continue to do so.

This isn't about going green, it's about the bottom line. They will be a far more profitable business by going electric as demand for petrol powered vehicles will dry up. It will just be something for enthusiasts, kinda like those who get off on steam engines.

I used to work in Energy until a year ago; solar and wind farms are not even close to being "highly profitable". The only people making money off them are the Contractors that build them and maintain them.  Without incentives from the Government nobody would be building them right now. In the panhandle of Texas, it cost ~5 million to build, maintain and remove a single large turbine for it's life. This turbine will produce ~3.5 million in energy. Doesn't sound very profitable.

We built a large 300 acre solar array that produces 30 megawatts; this array was ~300 million to build and 500k a year to maintain. In 10 years it has not made a single dollar in profit.

We are still 20 years away from large scale profitability from these farms.

I'm fine with nuclear power, just need to find a better way to deal with the waste.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Flexacon on March 01, 2021, 11:28:21 AM
I used to work in Energy until a year ago; solar and wind farms are not even close to being "highly profitable". The only people making money off them are the Contractors that build them and maintain them.  Without incentives from the Government nobody would be building them right now. In the panhandle of Texas, it cost ~5 million to build, maintain and remove a single large turbine for it's life. This turbine will produce ~3.5 million in energy. Doesn't sound very profitable.

We built a large 300 acre solar array that produces 30 megawatts; this array was ~300 million to build and 500k a year to maintain. In 10 years it has not made a single dollar in profit.

We are still 20 years away from large scale profitability from these farms.

I'm fine with nuclear power, just need to find a better way to deal with the waste.

The problems and lack of profitability you mention focuses on old/current tech. New tech will optimize the process, produce higher yields and storage will be less of an issue.

Try watching a 4k video on a 10 yearold laptop and you'll see it isn't up to the job. That's basically the stage we're currently at with renewable energy sources. It's not up to the job, but it's not a matter of if it ever will, it's when.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 01, 2021, 11:40:53 AM
How long does it take to recharge one of these cars?  Seems like it would be a nightmare taking a cross country road trip.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 01, 2021, 12:02:16 PM
The problems and lack of profitability you mention focuses on old/current tech. New tech will optimize the process, produce higher yields and storage will be less of an issue.

Try watching a 4k video on a 10 yearold laptop and you'll see it isn't up to the job. That's basically the stage we're currently at with renewable energy sources. It's not up to the job, but it's not a matter of if it ever will, it's when.

That's true. At this time the new tech has not been scaled up. It's just going to take time, but like you said we are a long way away from having the infrastructure to support it anyway. Which is why i believe we are a good 20 years away from being about to harness it properly.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Primemuscle on March 01, 2021, 12:59:32 PM
How long does it take to recharge one of these cars?  Seems like it would be a nightmare taking a cross country road trip.

A Tesla Model S can go up to 520 miles on a fully charged battery. This model Tesla has a 120 MPGe in the city. An electric motor doesn't waste energy idling. Electric cars use regenerative braking to recover energy typically wasted in braking.

It takes 6 to 9 hours at 220 volts to recharge it. It costs $0.03 per mile to operate. If gasoline runs $2.60 a gal. a vehicle that averages 28 MPG cost $0.09 per mile to operate. Whereas a gas engine uses less fuel on the highway, an electric engine is more efficient in city driving.

Taking a 600 mile road trip in an electric car adds 30% to the time it would take in a gas engine vehicle. Therefore, and 8 hour trip will take 11 hours in an electric car. This means that it would take almost 15 hours longer to drive from NY to California.
Title: Re: GM Going All Electric By 2035
Post by: Humble Narcissist on March 01, 2021, 01:05:03 PM
A Tesla Model S can go up to 520 miles on a fully charged battery. This model Tesla has a 120 MPGe in the city. An electric motor doesn't waste energy idling. Electric cars use regenerative braking to recover energy typically wasted in braking.

It takes 6 to 9 hours at 220 volts to recharge it. It costs $0.03 per mile to operate. If gasoline runs $2.60 a gal. a vehicle that averages 28 MPG cost $0.09 per mile to operate. Whereas a gas engine uses less fuel on the highway, an electric engine is more efficient in city driving.

Taking a 600 mile road trip in an electric car adds 30% to the time it would take in a gas engine vehicle. Therefore, and 8 hour trip will take 11 hours in an electric car. This means that it would take almost 15 hours longer to drive from NY to California.
I don't think most people are aware of this.  For people who love to make good time they will be very disappointed.