Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: evacnam on February 11, 2021, 07:09:43 PM
-
this gal is from my province, and holy she is strong. She is crushing powerlifting records left and right, deadlifts over 500 like nothing. I think she is 172 pound class. Decent looking gal and a pharmacist also. Good instagram page of her lifts
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLIl0YhBewi/
-
I bet she’s writing her own scripts.
-
I bet she’s writing her own scripts.
ya I guess if anyone knows how to beat the tests it would be her
-
I bet she’s writing her own scripts.
I was gonna post the same! lol
-
deadlifting with a piece of cloth over your mouth?
-
deadlifting with a piece of cloth over your mouth?
Fuck off deadbeat.
-
Fuck off deadbeat.
ahhahahahaha oh man epic has taken over from shizzo for most despised on here
but epic "doesnt care"
ahhahahahahaha :D :D :D
-
Nice body.
-
Lovely looking lass
-
Jessica is quite the young woman. Lots of photos online of this photogenic beauty.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Jessica+Buettner&t=hp&atb=v154-1&iax=images&ia=images
-
This forum is filled with genuflecting simps.
-
Big news
Steroids works!
-
Big news
Steroids works!
No! They are useless.
-
This forum is filled with genuflecting simps.
I fucked your wife.
In every hole.
-
I fucked your wife.
In every hole.
She has a gun shot wound at her navel that has made her belly button much deeper than a regular belly button.
Did you show this opening the same level of attention as the others?
-
She has a gun shot wound at her navel that has made her belly button much deeper than a regular belly button.
Did you show this opening the same level of attention as the others?
I shit in it.
-
I shit in it.
Lol.
You are a foul individual.
-
Lol.
You are a foul individual.
What did you think my Shitpipe List was about?
-
Natasha Aughey, another Canadian, smokes her.
-
What did you think my Shitpipe List was about?
I am 100% certain that I did not think it involved defecation inside navels.
That's borderline Prime level of perversion.
-
Natasha Aughey, another Canadian, smokes her.
She has a great ass. Very roided out. This first chick appears to be clean or close to it. Genes and insulin.
-
I am 100% certain that I did not think it involved defecation inside navels.
That's borderline Prime level of perversion.
That’s laying a good hard brown coiler right into her pussy.
-
She has a great ass. Very roided out. This first chick appears to be clean or close to it. Genes and insulin.
LoL no way. She is on anavar like all those girls in crossfit or powerlifting.
-
this gal is from my province, and holy she is strong. She is crushing powerlifting records left and right, deadlifts over 500 like nothing. I think she is 172 pound class. Decent looking gal and a pharmacist also. Good instagram page of her lifts
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLIl0YhBewi/
I'd lick her butthole clean after a 30 minute squat session.
Looks still feminine. Hopefully doesn't have a dick yet.
-
LoL no way. She is on anavar like all those girls in crossfit or powerlifting.
Check out the aforementioned Natasha Aughey. That's Anavar and growth and some other things.
I listened to Jessica and she has none of the raspy voice etc which all female juicers get. She competes in the IPF with no loss of strength (if she came off a few months out).
Kinda heavy set, strong bone structure but no androgenized facial features. Look at a some of her face pictures and listen to the voice.
Natasha probably does these goofy voices due to being self-conscious about people hearing she's on drugs. Might even be partly unconscious :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJP878fBl8W/?igshid=1g1hrj7mtxwmd
Compare to:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGFz17Uhgdn/?igshid=1gs4fusfkoz4k
Yes it's possible Jessica's done some drugs, but not at the level of say Natasha. Her being type 1 diabetic might give her extra anabolism/anti-catabolism from the insulin.
Some take big chanses at getting fame but getting caught in the IPF can really fuck up your life. You are persona non grata in these circles, even the juicers might think you are a POS.
Just some of my reasoning. What does everyone else here think?
-
Check out the aforementioned Natasha Aughey. That's Anavar and growth and some other things.
I listened to Jessica and she has none of the raspy voice etc which all female juicers get. She competes in the IPF with no loss of strength (if she came off a few months out).
Kinda heavy set, strong bone structure but no androgenized facial features. Look at a some of her face pictures and listen to the voice.
Natasha probably does these goofy voices due to being self-conscious about people hearing she's on drugs. Might even be partly unconscious :D
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJP878fBl8W/?igshid=1g1hrj7mtxwmd
Compare to:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CGFz17Uhgdn/?igshid=1gs4fusfkoz4k
Yes it's possible Jessica's done some drugs, but not at the level of say Natasha. Her being type 1 diabetic might give her extra anabolism/anti-catabolism from the insulin.
Some take big chanses at getting fame but getting caught in the IPF can really fuck up your life. You are persona non grata in these circles, even the juicers might think you are a POS.
Just some of my reasoning. What does everyone else here think?
Anavar was developed to not have those masculinizing side effects like change to deeper voice. That's why they all use it.
I saw pics of her back development and traps etc and thought straight away no, just no. Natural males don't even have that type of development.
And her lifts are not in female territory. Female at 175 lbs deadlifting 240kg. GTFO
-
the anadrol poppin, slug shaped beast kinda looks like yoda... worst biceps ever
gross.
(https://www.girlswithmuscle.com/images/full/1461498.jpg)
(https://preview.redd.it/yhlg49qn5s751.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=089e781c6baa9b80c295edfd796e25a0eb1155c4)
-
Anavar was developed to not have those masculinizing side effects like change to deeper voice. That's why they all use it.
There is no anabolic steroid without androgenic effects, it can't be done. The more it grows muscle the more virilizing it is as a general rule. Lots of girls have raspy voices from Anavar, basically all of the fitness and physique girls. Almost can't avoid it.
I seem to remember Disgusted saying Anavar was too virilizing, he preferred Winstrol for women.
-
Isnt deca low on virilization?
-
And her lifts are not in female territory. Female at 175 lbs deadlifting 240kg. GTFO
What do you and others think about this? 69kg/152lbs girl conventional deadlifting 246kg/542lbs.
Absolutely nuts.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLPbcpTFzl-/?igshid=18x10xv032h46
Unless the IPF is totally corrupt, and if she is legitimately tested, then she has to be clean for meets at least - 7 X World Champ. If you go from juiced to clean there should be a huge drop off in performance, after a few months clean. IPF athletes are supposedly random tested during the year also, I know a couple here in Sweden who were random tested, had to report their wereabouts at all times etc.
Am I saying this woman never did any drugs? No, no one can say that. What I'm saying is that it can't be a massive amount. You can look at this woman's body as well and decide if she looks very juiced.
Also, I'm one of those who "thinks everyone is juiced" like affeman (I think) said a while back. :D
I have seen some crazy things in the strength area though, by people who are "pretty clean" :D
Isnt deca low on virilization?
I don't know a whole lot of females on steroids so have very little experience. Back when I was 20 years old I knew an 18 year old chick who did two vials of Norma Deca 200mg. It permanently altered her voice - 2 shots and the voice got raspy and didn't go back with time. Her boyfriend shot her up and the dose was excessive but still shows how little it takes. She was still hot and the voice was kinda sexy :D
There's literature on virilization from as little as 2 or 6mg of Winstrol a day. These days fucking bikini chicks do trenbolone according to Bostin Loyd, and I don't doubt it.
-
She beats the tests.
Sophisticated testing is expensive so the IPF likely can't afford it.
-
There is no anabolic steroid without androgenic effects, it can't be done. The more it grows muscle the more virilizing it is as a general rule. Lots of girls have raspy voices from Anavar, basically all of the fitness and physique girls. Almost can't avoid it.
I seem to remember Disgusted saying Anavar was too virilizing, he preferred Winstrol for women.
What about SARMS?
-
IPF testing must be a joke.
It's an outside body doing the testing, WADA. This doesn't preclude corruption, but powerlifting is such a small sport that the lifters can't really bribe officials with millions of dollars and can't do "island hopping". Nor can they contract chemists to develop designer drugs, that costs a shitload of money.
What I can see happening is as follows. A lifter says she's injured or just lost interest in competing. Doesn't renew her membership so she's taken out of the testing pool. Now you can do as many drugs as you like for a period of time until motivation returns :D
The testers aren't stupid though, I think they require being in the testing pool for a period of time before being able to represent a country at big competitions. I don't know if PL is the same, probably not.
What about SARMS?
They are tested for obviously. I've seen a few Crosfitters get busted with SARMs. I think one female said her boyfriend was on SARMs and when she swallowed his load the drugs got transferred inadvertently lol :D I don't remember what the penalty was or if she was cleared outright.
-
the shoulder, back and thigh thickness at 180 muscular pounds = drugged in some form or fashion.
if she didn't have shit arm genetics there would b no question.
imagine this shot with good biceps
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/15/cb/b1/15cbb17d23b7521b6a537ce93a7f4762.jpg)
-
the shoulder, back and thigh thickness at 180 muscular pounds = drugged in some form or fashion.
Yes maybe, but the question to me becomes, in what fashion? How would I go about it in her shoes? I know a bunch about PEDs but it's not an easy question to answer.
If I were her I would play with peptides like GH and IGF-1. Fast clearance and might cause some anabolism, especially with the insulin she uses for her diabetes. BTW, I think that patch on her arm is a blood glucose monitor?
But peptides do not grow the traps and delts like androgens do.
If she gets legitimately tested at any point in the year she can't really touch any anabolics. Way too long a detection window, and in most cases the window is unknown. So she is relegated to plain testosterone as far as androgens go. Might do some test cream sporadically when sure to not be tested. Or oral/buccal testosterones.
Using androgens to build any serious strength in the off-season means you lose a large percentage of the drug strength at meets.
Zillotch, what do you think she's on?
-
Birth control pills are a helluva drug.
-
(https://i.redd.it/53q63forvke41.jpg)
-
That would make for some good buttfucking.
-
LoL no way. She is on anavar like all those girls in crossfit or powerlifting.
Yeah she's not natty, they know how to beat the system
-
so I posted on her IG that on a board people are DEBATING whether she is clean or not. People go absolutely fucking apeshit calling me every name in the book saying I accuse her of not being clean (apparently debate and accuse mean the same thing). Then the token insane feminist comes on and says its totally mysoginistic and all men are pigs etc etc. Its a gold mine ahahhaha. I directed them here
heres the feminist IG--standard she is fat, dresses horribly and goes to all those pink kitty, BLM matters protests bhahahahahah
https://www.instagram.com/misswhiplash/
oops I just picked up an IG ban lololol
-
so I posted on her IG that on a board people are DEBATING whether she is clean or not. People go absolutely fucking apeshit calling me every name in the book saying I accuse her of not being clean (apparently debate and accuse mean the same thing). Then the token insane feminist comes on and says its totally mysoginistic and all men are pigs etc etc. Its a gold mine ahahhaha. I directed them here
heres the feminist IG--standard she is fat, dresses horribly and goes to all those pink kitty, BLM matters protests bhahahahahah
https://www.instagram.com/misswhiplash/
oops I just picked up an IG ban lololol
A ban just for that comment? White knights and betas out in full force to defend the females!
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/452/280/50c.jpg)
-
A ban just for that comment? White knights and betas out in full force to defend the females!
(https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/452/280/50c.jpg)
ya it was wild it was the most extreme white knighting Ive seen in ages
-
I can tell if a girl like that is on PEDs just by licking her pussy and tonguing her starfish for a couple of hours.
So I’m available to test her any time
-
I can tell if a girl like that is on PEDs just by licking her pussy and tonguing her starfish for a couple of hours.
So I’m available to test her any time
if you have time can you go to the face diaper thread and use your glorious library of words to describe the guy in the 2 pics I posted in it, the one who had masks made of himself?
-
if you have time can you go to the face diaper thread and use your glorious library of words to describe the guy in the 2 pics I posted in it, the one who had masks made of himself?
COVID masks made with his photo on them?
Can they be worn as a jock strap?
-
I was really excited when I went to the convention center for ComicCon because I had spent several weeks putting together my Praetor Dinas of Rigell 7 costume. And then the place was just full of all these fat muscle people. It was really upsetting.
I guess it showed that I was sad because Jessica Buettner approached me and asked me if I was lost. I told her I didn't understand what was happening and she was really nice. She asked if I was a sad elf and I said no I'm from Rigell. Do you know what she said? "Which one?" *gasp* Seven! And she said Seven is the best Rigell!
She told me to come along with her and she'd get me where I was going. Jessica Buettner was really saving my day. We went through a door to a really long hallway and I felt so dumb. "Omg, it's in the other side of the conversation center, isn't it? I feel so silly." and she said "It's ok. It's right down here. Come on. Don't be slow." I thought that a little mean but she was helping me so ok maybe she just likes to walk fast.
Then we were going past a door and she turned the knob and said she just had to get something. I thanked her for showing me where to go and I went to walk around her but she let go of the door handle and turned around and I almost bumped into her. She said she needed my help with something just really quickly. So ok, fair enough. Then she put her hand on my back and said "I knew I could count on you. Open the door, silly. Good. You're so nice to help me like this. That's right. Go on in. We're in here now. That's right."
She basically ushered me into the room. It just didn't feel right and I started to feel a little scared. There were no lights on. The blinds were down. And there's no one else in there. Nothing but stacks of spare chairs. So I turn around and ask her "Your property is in here?" and she replied, "It is now."
I just started crying. "I wanna go to the ComicCon." And she burst out laughing and told me it was next week. "Are you stupid?" After I said no she slapped me. "You don't lie to me. Are you stupid? Are you?" I nodded and whispered yes and cried some more.
Understand that this sort of thing just doesn't happen on Rigell 7 so when she took me by the throat and told me to shush and kneel before Buettner I was too shocked to do anything but comply. Getting air was barely an option. I was reminded of Emily Clydesdale who used to hit me with her jump rope handle, and the more I said it wasn't funny the harder she laughed. Why do these things keep happening to me?
I was going to die kneeling on a storage room floor and I'd never been happy. Could I find happiness before the end? Was there time? Was there still time to salvage happiness? There was. There was still time to salvage happiness. "Hagh. There's still time to saa- haagh!" She didn't care.
They say the heart wants what it wants. Standing over me and choking me half to death, she instructed me. "Present your offering to Buettner." And I said Lady, you gotta change that name. It's a goddamn boner killer. I can't imagine a less candlelight name. The whole time she's "Who gets it? Just anyone? Anyone? Buettner!" Omg can you pls just stop? The name is not conducive.
Anyway, that's pretty much where the fantasy ended. Idk. Seems like a solid teutonic name but it's just not working for me. No hard feelings but I'm bailing out.
-
I was really excited when I went to the convention center for ComicCon because I had spent several weeks putting together my Praetor Dinas of Rigell 7 costume. And then the place was just full of all these fat muscle people. It was really upsetting.
I guess it showed that I was sad because Jessica Buettner approached me and asked me if I was lost. I told her I didn't understand what was happening and she was really nice. She asked if I was a sad elf and I said no I'm from Rigell. Do you know what she said? "Which one?" *gasp* Seven! And she said Seven is the best Rigell!
She told me to come along with her and she'd get me where I was going. Jessica Buettner was really saving my day. We went through a door to a really long hallway and I felt so dumb. "Omg, it's in the other side of the conversation center, isn't it? I feel so silly." and she said "It's ok. It's right down here. Come on. Don't be slow." I thought that a little mean but she was helping me so ok maybe she just likes to walk fast.
Then we were going past a door and she turned the knob and said she just had to get something. I thanked her for showing me where to go and I went to walk around her but she let go of the door handle and turned around and I almost bumped into her. She said she needed my help with something just really quickly. So ok, fair enough. Then she put her hand on my back and said "I knew I could count on you. Open the door, silly. Good. You're so nice to help me like this. That's right. Go on in. We're in here now. That's right."
She basically ushered me into the room. It just didn't feel right and I started to feel a little scared. There were no lights on. The blinds were down. And there's no one else in there. Nothing but stacks of spare chairs. So I turn around and ask her "Your property is in here?" and she replied, "It is now."
I just started crying. "I wanna go to the ComicCon." And she burst out laughing and told me it was next week. "Are you stupid?" After I said no she slapped me. "You don't lie to me. Are you stupid? Are you?" I nodded and whispered yes and cried some more.
Understand that this sort of thing just doesn't happen on Rigell 7 so when she took me by the throat and told me to shush and kneel before Buettner I was too shocked to do anything but comply. Getting air was barely an option. I was reminded of Emily Clydesdale who used to hit me with her jump rope handle, and the more I said it wasn't funny the harder she laughed. Why do these things keep happening to me?
I was going to die kneeling on a storage room floor and I'd never been happy. Could I find happiness before the end? Was there time? Was there still time to salvage happiness? There was. There was still time to salvage happiness. "Hagh. There's still time to saa- haagh!" She didn't care.
They say the heart wants what it wants. Standing over me and choking me half to death, she instructed me. "Present your offering to Buettner." And I said Lady, you gotta change that name. It's a goddamn boner killer. I can't imagine a less candlelight name. The whole time she's "Who gets it? Just anyone? Anyone? Buettner!" Omg can you pls just stop? The name is not conducive.
Anyway, that's pretty much where the fantasy ended. Idk. Seems like a solid teutonic name but it's just not working for me. No hard feelings but I'm bailing out.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/QYWdj9WoicvEk/giphy.gif)
-
Can't decide if she'd be more offended by the attempted jerking or that I couldn't finish the job.
It sounds like the kid who's having a bad game and pissing off the coach. The guy is pacing the sidelines with his hand on top of his head and every 90 seconds he freezes and shouts Gawwwwwwd Dammit Buettner!
You can't fap to that. I'm sure she's a very nice person. She probably is sexual and a good sport as well but I just can't do it. It felt like work.
God dammit, Buettner.
-
i dont know jack about diabetes, but she said her diabetes makes her catabolic, so harder to build muscle and get strength.
When she said that and was deadlifting 540 at 178lbs, and with the muscle she has, alarms went off that she is on the sauce. If the diabetes worked the other way and made her bigger and stronger, sure, maybe natural, but not if its the other way
-
i dont know jack about diabetes, but she said her diabetes makes her catabolic, so harder to build muscle and get strength.
When she said that and was deadlifting 540 at 178lbs, and with the muscle she has, alarms went off that she is on the sauce. If the diabetes worked the other way and made her bigger and stronger, sure, maybe natural, but not if its the other way
Taking insulin makes you very very anabolic. She's just trying to avoid the obvious question that she is on PED's.
I've taken insulin many times, when used properly before a workout it makes you stronger than shit.
When i competed in power lifting, i used to see guys shooting insulin in the locker-room. Also guys would drink a shot of honey right before a lift.
Look at all those guys Milos trained, they turned into monsters because they were taking insane doses of insulin.
I hate discrediting people, but she is just another person using PED's to get ahead of the competition.
-
i dont know jack about diabetes, but she said her diabetes makes her catabolic, so harder to build muscle and get strength.
When she said that and was deadlifting 540 at 178lbs, and with the muscle she has, alarms went off that she is on the sauce. If the diabetes worked the other way and made her bigger and stronger, sure, maybe natural, but not if its the other way
I think this is what you meant.
Also she is a diabetic *pharmacist.
*I've taken the liberty to bold the key idea of the sentence.
-
i dont know jack about diabetes, but she said her diabetes makes her catabolic, so harder to build muscle and get strength.
When she said that and was deadlifting 540 at 178lbs, and with the muscle she has, alarms went off that she is on the sauce. If the diabetes worked the other way and made her bigger and stronger, sure, maybe natural, but not if its the other way
It can swing both ways. If you go hypoglycemic frequently it can be catabolic and generally stressful on the body. But she's experienced and most likely monitors well.
Diabetes is a complicated disease where many bodily systems can be malfunctioning which isn't a plus for performance, but the insulin can be anabolic as well. Certain insulins like Lantus increase IGF-1 which is the hormone which GH works through. Neither GH nor IGF-1 are anything like androgens wrt performance enhancement but neither do they hurt. A diabetic can easily hit supraphysiological insulin levels at key times to boost performance and there's no way to hinder that type of manipulation.
One thing to keep in mind wrt powerlifting is that you can't just look at numbers to determine if someone is on drugs and how many drugs.
For an example, take a look at this fella. Does he look like he has done a ton of steroids? He is as "strong" or stronger than Ed Coan in the deadlift. Or let's say his numbers are equal even though he doesn't have the same pure muscle strength, and obviously doesn't even have a third of the muscle. He doesn't even look like he lifts tbh.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKKnYSJATND/?igshid=b32tt2b19iaa
He could be clean or close to it. I certainly don't think he is slamming a ton of Tren and Anadrol because it would show, even with crappy gear response.
And I'm known as one of those who disbelieves all natural claims :D
-
Taking insulin makes you very very anabolic. She's just trying to avoid the obvious question that she is on PED's.
I've taken insulin many times, when used properly before a workout it makes you stronger than shit.
When i competed in power lifting, i used to see guys shooting insulin in the locker-room. Also guys would drink a shot of honey right before a lift.
Look at all those guys Milos trained, they turned into monsters because they were taking insane doses of insulin.
I hate discrediting people, but she is just another person using PED's to get ahead of the competition.
Insert random shot of Tim Belknap here
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=312999.0;attach=353292;image)
-
It can swing both ways. If you go hypoglycemic frequently it can be catabolic and generally stressful on the body. But she's experienced and most likely monitors well.
Diabetes is a complicated disease where many bodily systems can be malfunctioning which isn't a plus for performance, but the insulin can be anabolic as well. Certain insulins like Lantus increase IGF-1 which is the hormone which GH works through. Neither GH nor IGF-1 are anything like androgens wrt performance enhancement but neither do they hurt. A diabetic can easily hit supraphysiological insulin levels at key times to boost performance and there's no way to hinder that type of manipulation.
One thing to keep in mind wrt powerlifting is that you can't just look at numbers to determine if someone is on drugs and how many drugs.
For an example, take a look at this fella. Does he look like he has done a ton of steroids? He is as "strong" or stronger than Ed Coan in the deadlift. Or let's say his numbers are equal even though he doesn't have the same pure muscle strength, and obviously doesn't even have a third of the muscle. He doesn't even look like he lifts tbh.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKKnYSJATND/?igshid=b32tt2b19iaa
He could be clean or close to it. I certainly don't think he is slamming a ton of Tren and Anadrol because it would show, even with crappy gear response.
And I'm known as one of those who disbelieves all natural claims :D
That's a strong mofo. Damn never heard of him.
This is why it's hard to judge just by looking, you wouldn't think he's on gear just by looking at him.
Years ago there was this local Mexican guy who was well known for his deadlift. He was like 5'4" and 155 pounds and could deadlift over 600 pounds. It was insane, i saw him do it a few times. Perfect form and he had short legs, his deadlift was like moving the bar 6".
His bench was terrible and i think he could squat around 400 pounds.
He looked like a day laborer that laid tile or something, did not look like he worked out. But he trained 5 days a week and had been lifting for 15+ years.
-
What do you and others think about this? 69kg/152lbs girl conventional deadlifting 246kg/542lbs.
Absolutely nuts.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLPbcpTFzl-/?igshid=18x10xv032h46
Unless the IPF is totally corrupt, and if she is legitimately tested, then she has to be clean for meets at least - 7 X World Champ. If you go from juiced to clean there should be a huge drop off in performance, after a few months clean. IPF athletes are supposedly random tested during the year also, I know a couple here in Sweden who were random tested, had to report their wereabouts at all times etc.
Am I saying this woman never did any drugs? No, no one can say that. What I'm saying is that it can't be a massive amount. You can look at this woman's body as well and decide if she looks very juiced.
Also, I'm one of those who "thinks everyone is juiced" like affeman (I think) said a while back. :D
I have seen some crazy things in the strength area though, by people who are "pretty clean" :D
I don't know a whole lot of females on steroids so have very little experience. Back when I was 20 years old I knew an 18 year old chick who did two vials of Norma Deca 200mg. It permanently altered her voice - 2 shots and the voice got raspy and didn't go back with time. Her boyfriend shot her up and the dose was excessive but still shows how little it takes. She was still hot and the voice was kinda sexy :D
There's literature on virilization from as little as 2 or 6mg of Winstrol a day. These days fucking bikini chicks do trenbolone according to Bostin Loyd, and I don't doubt it.
It's all generic response, as an old "provider" of "supplements" in florida I've assisted women.
Fast acting injects cause dramatically less sides in women,orals are all garbage also for staying feminine.
Test PP and NPP can be ran pretty high with no outward affects for a lot of women besides having to shave every morning.
Normal dosing I saw was 20-40mg test PP M/W/F
NPP 30mg M/W/F. They shot with Slin pins to be accurate on dosing. And these are "normal" girls, not powerlifters with aspirations.
-
Test PP and NPP can be ran pretty high with no outward affects for a lot of women besides having to shave every morning.
What about voice? Just today I heard someone say nandrolone is particularly bad on the voice.