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Title: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 01:03:59 PM
Im absolutely OBSESSED with this. I obviously have no clue if there is or if we are just worm food, or in my case after, ashes in a dog park.
I read about peoples NDE experiences but just  have no idea if they are real or not.  I would never off myself (sorry certain members), but I look forward to the end to see if anything happens.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 01:16:41 PM
Can you remember before you were born?

There's your answer. ;)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: WoogsRaven on February 18, 2021, 01:39:31 PM
Can you remember before you were born?

There's your answer. ;)

^^^^what this guy said. Still though....the absence of consciousness or awareness that disappears when you die is a fascinating concept. You have a sense of existence in your mind and all of a sudden it's gone when you die? So there's no reason to fear death because it's as if you never existed in your own mind to begin with after you die?

What a complete mind fuck.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2021, 01:50:55 PM
^^^^what this guy said. Still though....the absence of consciousness or awareness that disappears when you die is a fascinating concept. You have a sense of existence in your mind and all of a sudden it's gone when you die? So there's no reason to fear death because it's as if you never existed in your own mind to begin with after you die?

What a complete mind fuck.


Yeah, but most of us think of these things in high school.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 18, 2021, 01:54:39 PM
KEEP DOUBTING

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Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 01:55:31 PM
Here’s something to ponder...

What is after death you simply are reincarnated as the same person in the same time and forced to live the same life over and over again.  Would you consider this a blessing or a curse?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 02:02:01 PM
Here’s something to ponder...

What is after death you simply are reincarnated as the same person in the same time and forced to live the same life over and over again.  Would you consider this a blessing or a curse?

I dont think curse is a strong enough word
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Henda on February 18, 2021, 02:05:05 PM
Here’s something to ponder...

What is after death you simply are reincarnated as the same person in the same time and forced to live the same life over and over again.  Would you consider this a blessing or a curse?

Same life as in everything happens exactly the same every decision same ect and you have no memory of previous life so can’t avoid mistakes ect?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: LurkerNoMore on February 18, 2021, 02:23:29 PM
Same life as in everything happens exactly the same every decision same ect and you have no memory of previous life so can’t avoid mistakes ect?

Yes.  Everything is exactly the same.  Same choices. Same mistakes.  Same good times and bad.  You won’t be aware that you have done this cycle before.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Henda on February 18, 2021, 02:29:49 PM
Yes.  Everything is exactly the same.  Same choices. Same mistakes.  Same good times and bad.  You won’t be aware that you have done this cycle before.

Still a blessing I guess but to early in life to say never know what’s round the corner that would never want to go through again but would have to be pretty horrific to outdo all the good times, thinking about it I’d give almost anything to relive many years at many stages of life so I’d say blessing
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: WoogsRaven on February 18, 2021, 03:12:37 PM

Yeah, but most of us think of these things in high school.

What the fuck does that even mean? High school? What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: WoogsRaven on February 18, 2021, 03:14:33 PM
Here’s something to ponder...

What is after death you simply are reincarnated as the same person in the same time and forced to live the same life over and over again.  Would you consider this a blessing or a curse?

I'm cool with that. Because this much I know.....The dead know one thing........it's better to be alive.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dokey111 on February 18, 2021, 03:17:06 PM
Life is for the living.  If you're alive, live.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 03:22:06 PM
What the fuck does that even mean? High school? What are you talking about?

thats what I wondered too

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: wes on February 18, 2021, 03:46:41 PM

Yeah, but most of us think of these things in high school.
I think about it a lot.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanielPaul on February 18, 2021, 03:54:03 PM
So I’ll start by saying that coming to a point to where I have absolute faith in an infinite deity happened pretty much by accident or chance. Long drive through west Texas ,nothing but 12 million miles of open highway and the only station I could get was one that had a daily program that took you through the Bible over the coarse of 5 years. Sounds rough right lol, this was about 15 years ago and the man who put that program together died in th mid 80s.
      So I listened, his name was Dr. J Vernon McGee and he was explaining about Abraham and Lot’s flight from sodome, but at the same time he was giving some parallels of his today (1980s) and it was amazing because in say around 2005 it still applied then.  But my point is he was able to take a book and explain why it was timeless to his day and at the same time showed it was still timeless in my day.
     
      Here is the problem though, to many people and organizations have made “ seeking faith “ a for profit venture and have lost the trust of many people born into faithful families much less people like me who’s families never gave two shits about religion. But what started that night for me was a 15 year journey ( and you can give me all the shit you want about how corny it sounds lol) of reading books of faith and looking for people who are educated in the historical times in which the books are written that give an accurate depiction of what the author was trying to tell you. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions and share so many similarities that it’s insane that there’s so much strife and conflict between them.  If anyone is ever interested in some of the great things I’ve found that help me find faith just hit me up in pm I’d be glad to share.

        One last thing, I was not down and out, on drugs or struggling with suicide or crazy life circumstances when this started for me, it just out of the blue happened and honestly I feel like it’s the greatest achievement of my life.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 04:07:49 PM
So I’ll start by saying that coming to a point to where I have absolute faith in an infinite deity happened pretty much by accident or chance. Long drive through west Texas ,nothing but 12 million miles of open highway and the only station I could get was one that had a daily program that took you through the Bible over the coarse of 5 years. Sounds rough right lol, this was about 15 years ago and the man who put that program together died in th mid 80s.
      So I listened, his name was Dr. J Vernon McGee and he was explaining about Abraham and Lot’s flight from sodome, but at the same time he was giving some parallels of his today (1980s) and it was amazing because in say around 2005 it still applied then.  But my point is he was able to take a book and explain why it was timeless to his day and at the same time showed it was still timeless in my day.
     
      Here is the problem though, to many people and organizations have made “ seeking faith “ a for profit venture and have lost the trust of many people born into faithful families much less people like me who’s families never gave two shits about religion. But what started that night for me was a 15 year journey ( and you can give me all the shit you want about how corny it sounds lol) of reading books of faith and looking for people who are educated in the historical times in which the books are written that give an accurate depiction of what the author was trying to tell you. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions and share so many similarities that it’s insane that there’s so much strife and conflict between them.  If anyone is ever interested in some of the great things I’ve found that help me find faith just hit me up in pm I’d be glad to share.

        One last thing, I was not down and out, on drugs or struggling with suicide or crazy life circumstances when this started for me, it just out of the blue happened and honestly I feel like it’s the greatest achievement of my life.

cool story
if you found faith why are you so damn mean to me?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanielPaul on February 18, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
cool story
if you found faith why are you so damn mean to me?
lol Honestly man I thought we were just fucking around with each other thunderdome style I’m sorry.  Also fuck you ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 04:14:16 PM
So I’ll start by saying that coming to a point to where I have absolute faith in an infinite deity happened pretty much by accident or chance. Long drive through west Texas ,nothing but 12 million miles of open highway and the only station I could get was one that had a daily program that took you through the Bible over the coarse of 5 years. Sounds rough right lol, this was about 15 years ago and the man who put that program together died in th mid 80s.
      So I listened, his name was Dr. J Vernon McGee and he was explaining about Abraham and Lot’s flight from sodome, but at the same time he was giving some parallels of his today (1980s) and it was amazing because in say around 2005 it still applied then.  But my point is he was able to take a book and explain why it was timeless to his day and at the same time showed it was still timeless in my day.
     
      Here is the problem though, to many people and organizations have made “ seeking faith “ a for profit venture and have lost the trust of many people born into faithful families much less people like me who’s families never gave two shits about religion. But what started that night for me was a 15 year journey ( and you can give me all the shit you want about how corny it sounds lol) of reading books of faith and looking for people who are educated in the historical times in which the books are written that give an accurate depiction of what the author was trying to tell you. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are all Abrahamic religions and share so many similarities that it’s insane that there’s so much strife and conflict between them.  If anyone is ever interested in some of the great things I’ve found that help me find faith just hit me up in pm I’d be glad to share.

        One last thing, I was not down and out, on drugs or struggling with suicide or crazy life circumstances when this started for me, it just out of the blue happened and honestly I feel like it’s the greatest achievement of my life.

My mom used to listen to him.

That's what makes these guys so famous, they are able to take the tales in the Bible and connect them with today, which is pretty much what all Pastors/Preachers do. I grew up in Texas and our Pastor was a great story teller.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: falco on February 18, 2021, 04:16:01 PM
I believe that the afterlife has been consider since the begining of mankind, even before any form of religious beliefs. Hence there must be some solid validity to it.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanielPaul on February 18, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
Hey and another thing, most of the great men in the faith were far, far from perfect but were considered to be particularly held close by God.  Just read up on King David , this guy was literally a Getbigger before Getbig was a thing. But he himself was said to be of Gods own heart lol. You have what organizations want you to believe about faith then you have the actual account of what is written in scripture.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanielPaul on February 18, 2021, 04:24:11 PM
I believe that the afterlife has been consider since the begining of mankind, even before any form of religious beliefs. Hence there must be some solid validity to it.
I have absolutely no doubt about an afterlife, but what it will be like I feel we are unable to comprehend in the mortal flesh. And I also believe that 99% of people will be a part of it with exception to the truly soulless or those who are completely unable to respect life, sociopaths and such.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Jizmonkey on February 18, 2021, 04:38:59 PM
I’m starting to believe that we are living in a simulation.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 18, 2021, 04:40:08 PM
I’m starting to believe that we are living in a simulation.

Matrix?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Matt on February 18, 2021, 04:46:32 PM
Here’s something to ponder...

What is after death you simply are reincarnated as the same person in the same time and forced to live the same life over and over again.  Would you consider this a blessing or a curse?

The exact same life...would be ok. But if I could correct some mistakes, I'd be fine.

Very Nietzsche-ian thought on your part.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Hulkotron on February 18, 2021, 05:07:08 PM
I also often ponder these puzzles.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Matt on February 18, 2021, 05:18:27 PM
Still a blessing I guess but to early in life to say never know what’s round the corner that would never want to go through again but would have to be pretty horrific to outdo all the good times, thinking about it I’d give almost anything to relive many years at many stages of life so I’d say blessing

Henda,

Sounds like your life has been one of many enjoyable evenings with your mates at the pub drinking pints of ale you have a penchant for, avoiding bellends and narky, cheeky, stinking cunts [except for one notable one on Getbig who sharted and stank up the entire Arnold Classic expo convention hall, on multiple occasions].

Not to mention, many enjoyable trolly rides.

My friend invited a true Englishman over to my place once. I asked him "Speaking Canadian English, do I sound like a bum to you?"

He replied "It sounds pretty common, yes."

An Englishman's way of telling me, yes, I sound like a bum.

I'm sort of curious if we spoke in person, if you'd expect me to say "I wash muhself with a rag on a stick!" [like our stinking friend does].
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: LittleJ on February 18, 2021, 05:24:48 PM
Im absolutely OBSESSED with this. I obviously have no clue if there is or if we are just worm food, or in my case after, ashes in a dog park.
I read about peoples NDE experiences but just  have no idea if they are real or not.  I would never off myself (sorry certain members), but I look forward to the end to see if anything happens.

It's real. I had an NDE and every since I've seen and heard spirits everyday
I feel I'm like a physical medium. I'm literally touched every hour of the day by spirits. I've been attacked by a spirit that followed me home from my old job. I don't buy antiques or secondhand items because I was also haunted by an angry spirit. All my "dreams" are about dying, seeing spirits, or being attacked. Im not religious but there's something after death. I wear a cross pendant at night before bed because I'm mostly attacked or "jumped"( a spirit using my body). If you want to experience something wild, learn how to voluntary have an oobe(out of body experience).
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 05:31:40 PM
It's real. I had an NDE and every since I've seen and heard spirits everyday
I feel I'm like a physical medium. I'm literally touched every hour of the day by spirits. I've been attacked by a spirit that followed me home from my old job. I don't buy antiques or secondhand items because I was also haunted by an angry spirit. All my "dreams" are about dying, seeing spirits, or being attacked. Im not religious but there's something after death. I wear a cross pendant at night before bed because I'm mostly attacked or "jumped"( a spirit using my body). If you want to experience something wild, learn how to voluntary have an oobe(out of body experience).

brain injury? Im actually just reading that voluntary oob can be correlated to brain injury
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 05:33:52 PM
It's real. I had an NDE and every since I've seen and heard spirits everyday
I feel I'm like a physical medium. I'm literally touched every hour of the day by spirits. I've been attacked by a spirit that followed me home from my old job. I don't buy antiques or secondhand items because I was also haunted by an angry spirit. All my "dreams" are about dying, seeing spirits, or being attacked. Im not religious but there's something after death. I wear a cross pendant at night before bed because I'm mostly attacked or "jumped"( a spirit using my body). If you want to experience something wild, learn how to voluntary have an oobe(out of body experience).

These things have been explained by the way the brain functions.

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Jizmonkey on February 18, 2021, 06:39:00 PM
Matrix?
Makes sense. Tech is going that way. What are the odds we are the civilization before we get to that tech, compared to an eternity with it. Unless we never get there and destroy ourselves first.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 18, 2021, 06:41:52 PM
Life after dead = B U L L S H I T

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 06:49:03 PM
Life after dead = B U L L S H I T

hey we all have opinions, and no one knows who is right or wrong
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 18, 2021, 07:00:57 PM
hey we all have opinions, and no one knows who is right or wrong

yeah, Indians (Hindus) also believe in reincarnation  ???
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 07:03:10 PM
yeah, Indians (Hindus) (dot not feather) also believe in reincarnation  ???
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 18, 2021, 07:05:57 PM


Youtube: funerals in Nepal, they chop bodies for birds food  :D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Marty Champions on February 18, 2021, 07:28:30 PM
I melt down once a year contemplatin the potential exit from life.  It causes me to lose my bearings and i get scared and i go into 'mania' for a minite or 2. I have a fear of the whole life experience was just an experience and gone forever , or im trapped in the 'eternal' it makes me sick and i cant deal with it logically . I feel like exploding just talking about it
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: SOMEPARTS on February 18, 2021, 08:42:06 PM
What the fuck does that even mean? High school? What are you talking about?


It means death and the afterlife is something most people think about before middle age.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: titusisback on February 18, 2021, 09:36:11 PM
Believing in life after death is a sign of mental weakness. Inability to cope with notion of eventuality and the fact that we're not special, one step ahead of a monkey with a larger than life ego based on nothing
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 18, 2021, 09:38:09 PM
I melt down once a year contemplatin the potential exit from life.  It causes me to lose my bearings and i get scared and i go into 'mania' for a minite or 2. I have a fear of the whole life experience was just an experience and gone forever , or im trapped in the 'eternal' it makes me sick and i cant deal with it logically . I feel like exploding just talking about it

If it makes you feel any better, you won't even know when you die. You just got blank.

Sleep well young falcon.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 18, 2021, 09:44:14 PM
Believing in life after death is a sign of mental weakness. Inability to cope with notion of eventuality and the fact that we're not special, one step ahead of a monkey with a larger than life ego based on nothing

This is a good post. Makes sense
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Hypertrophy on February 18, 2021, 09:50:56 PM
I’m starting to believe that we are living in a simulation.


We actually are - or a fake construct. It has been shown for example  that a baby sees images early on with no concept of what a shape or color is. We teach them to equate shapes with concepts. For example- we call a triangularly shaped green object a" tree". For the rest of our lives we distinguish what we see as a collection of objects that we are taught to identify.


We limit our understanding of the world to what we have been programmed to see. So yes, a simulation...
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Zillotch on February 18, 2021, 10:06:37 PM
burners... your time is short

(https://masheka.by/uploads/posts/2020-07/1595945407_1595943602123418049.jpeg)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 18, 2021, 10:35:00 PM
brain injury? Im actually just reading that voluntary oob can be correlated to brain injury

I had an OOB experience as a kid sledding. I crashed into a fence (head first) and I floated up and was hovering over my body (floating) and could see all my friends running down the hill to check on me. And then I came back in an instant. It was really weird.

It was so real it something I thought I’d never forget an now I can barely describe it, lol.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 18, 2021, 10:37:40 PM
There is a sense is which time is an illusion. We all exist in the now. That is all there is....no evidence of anything else.

We were all brought up in a culture that believes all manner of myths including religions. Add to this movies and we all have plenty of ideas instilled in us about life, the supernatural and science fiction.

Science has accounts for matter and the universe. I see no reason to resort to the supernatural because there is no evidence any of that is true. There is no evidence that Jesus existed. We

learn so much crap through institutions such as religion. No wonder so many end up confused about what is real and what to believe. The internet hasn't helped the multitudes.

Part of the journey of an educated persons is to get rid of all the nonsense ideas before they die. By the way, the talk about being a simulation is utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: galain on February 18, 2021, 10:50:35 PM
I don't know anymore than anyone else but I'd just like to see my old dogs and cats again.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 18, 2021, 10:58:42 PM
There is a sense is which time is an illusion. We all exist in the now.That is all there is....no evidence of anything else.

We were all brought up in a culture that believes all manner of myths including religions. Add to this movies and we all have plenty of ideas instilled in us about life, the supernatural and science fiction.

Science has accounts for matter and the universe. I see no reason to resort to the supernatural because there is no evidence any of that is true. (http://There is no evidence that Jesus existed.) We

learn so much crap through institutions such as religion. No wonder so many end up confused about what is real and what to believe. The internet hasn't helped the multitudes.

Part of the journey of an educated persons is to get rid of all the nonsense ideas before they die. By the way, the talk about being a simulation is utter nonsense.

Interesting.  I have heard many question the deity of Jesus but to say there is no evidence of His existence is really taking a stance.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 18, 2021, 11:29:22 PM
Interesting.  I have heard many question the deity of Jesus but to say there is no evidence of His existence is really taking a stance.

One of the things that has disappointed me as a philosopher is to discover there is no evidence, other than the fabricated Bible, that he even existed.

Would people invent a religion and then give the 'deity' an earthly existence? You bet. This was done all the time in the past. You can't trust religions. This is a sad thing because those

religions still impact on most societies. We are supposed to have ideals such as honesty and integrity but religions are fabricated nonsense that some make up

for their selfish reasons. Same old control and profit.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 18, 2021, 11:49:05 PM
One of the things that has disappointed me as a philosopher is to discover there is no evidence, other than the fabricated Bible, that he even existed.

Would people invent a religion and then give the 'deity' an earthly existence? You bet. This was done all the time in the past. You can't trust religions. This is a sad thing because those

religions still impact on most societies. We are supposed to have ideals such as honesty and integrity but religions are fabricated nonsense that some make up

for their selfish reasons. Same old control and profit.

Fair enough I have no arguement on your views on religion.

Its interesting you dont think there is evidence that Jesus existed. It's a nice story either way.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: AbrahamG on February 19, 2021, 12:02:42 AM
Fair enough I have no arguement on your views on religion.

Its interesting you dont think there is evidence that Jesus existed. It's a nice story either way.

I think "Jesus" was based on someone that did exist and left a very strong imprint on those he encountered.  Chances that his Palestinian drivers license read Jesus H. Christ are probably nil.  I agree about the nice story part sans the brutal crucifixion.  That being said, if more people read the actual teaching of Jesus, namely the beatitudes, the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 19, 2021, 12:12:41 AM
I think "Jesus" was based on someone that did exist and left a very strong imprint on those he encountered.  Chances that his Palestinian drivers license read Jesus H. Christ are probably nil.  I agree about the nice story part sans the brutal crucifixion.  That being said, if more people read the actual teaching of Jesus, namely the beatitudes, the world would be a better place.

Agreed. As far as His existence is concerned as this article states, peasants dont normally leave archeological trails.

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 19, 2021, 12:50:45 AM
Agreed. As far as His existence is concerned as this article states, peasants dont normally leave archeological trails.

https://www.history.com/.amp/news/was-jesus-real-historical-evidence

Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: AbrahamG on February 19, 2021, 12:52:32 AM
Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.

Fuck Off.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 19, 2021, 01:39:30 AM
Fuck Off.

Not a chance!


Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: D.O.A. on February 19, 2021, 04:13:03 AM
Im absolutely OBSESSED with this. I obviously have no clue if there is or if we are just worm food, or in my case after, ashes in a dog park.
I read about peoples NDE experiences but just  have no idea if they are real or not.  I would never off myself (sorry certain members), but I look forward to the end to see if anything happens.
I thought an Iron Maiden post about one of the greatest Live Albums. :D
I go to different phases, sometimes I'm 100 % sure there is Afterlife and than I'm certain its like before being born. When I heard a Podcast about exorcism by a very believable Priest,

   

don't even question the afterlife anymore but hope not to go to hell or some fucked up place.lol
There is some great shit on the Internet about afterlife..in any case we all will find out for sure, a hint would make it so much easier to make decisions in life.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 19, 2021, 04:28:54 AM
These things have been explained by the way the brain functions.
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 19, 2021, 04:57:39 AM
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.

It all depends on how you define "evidence". Materialists usually don't have beliefs unless there is evidence from science or observation to support them.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Marty Champions on February 19, 2021, 05:25:12 AM
Some 'jewish rabbis' will say there is an eternal place where souls and angels reside, no bodies only spirits
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 19, 2021, 05:57:47 AM
Those things are explained by materialists who don't believe in anything else.  They refuse to look at any evidence that doesn't fit their fixed beliefs.

Materialists go by science and logic.


Until something is explained within scientific rules, they don't believe it.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 19, 2021, 06:47:19 AM
Sorry, but the track record for Christian apologists is shameful. At the moment I am disgusted when I watch debates from these apologists.

Part of the problem is that many apologists hold positions at universities and their tenure requires support for the Jesus myth.

When historicists such as Richard Carrier write about Jesus you really end up quite sceptical about any such person having existed.

The awful truth is there are few if any surviving books or documents from the first century AD. The early Christian founders also destroyed

any literature that criticised the faith. The result is we have this manufactured bullshit of monumental proportions.

Fair enough. Someone is always an expert that knows more than other experts

Your faith is in Jesus of Nazareth never existed because of persuasive teachings, that's no different than the self righteous religious you criticize.

It's funny that so many see the Univesity system as staunch Christian while many see it as far left.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Vince B on February 19, 2021, 07:27:21 AM
Fair enough. Someone is always an expert that knows more than other experts

Your faith is in Jesus of Nazareth never existed because of persuasive teachings, that's no different than the self righteous religious you criticize.

It's funny that so many see the Univesity system as staunch Christian while many see it as far left.

If historians can't find compelling evidence that Jesus Christ existed then that is a fact and has nothing to do with anyone being persuasive.

I criticise Christianity because if Christ was fabricated the whole religion collapses as a scam. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Dave D on February 19, 2021, 07:32:46 AM
If historians can't find compelling evidence that Jesus Christ existed then that is a fact and has nothing to do with anyone being persuasive.

I criticise Christianity because if Christ was fabricated the whole religion collapses as a scam. Sad but true.

Obviously. And it is that simple.

But you say historians can’t find compelling evidence Jesus existed I say they have. It depends on who you believe.

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: monsterman500 on February 19, 2021, 07:44:51 AM
I just farted
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Taffin on February 19, 2021, 08:56:50 AM
Hey and another thing, most of the great men in the faith were far, far from perfect but were considered to be particularly held close by God.  Just read up on King David , this guy was literally a Getbigger before Getbig was a thing. But he himself was said to be of Gods own heart lol. You have what organizations want you to believe about faith then you have the actual account of what is written in scripture.

Waiting for Wes to confirm



I’m starting to believe that we are living in a simulation.

Matrix?

I don't think so, but I do think we could get to a 'Cold Lazarus' world eventually, and here's why:  For many years now I've had lucid dreams - where I reach a realisation that I'm dreaming, but can influence the dream and its 'direction' as such.  At that point I know everything is fake, but the level of visual detail is amazing.  I've also noted that while I can see, hear and feel things (textures, temperatures) I cannot smell or taste anything.  Once we figure out how to tap into that circuitry that already exists then we're as good as brains in jars...



I think "Jesus" was based on someone that did exist and left a very strong imprint on those he encountered.  Chances that his Palestinian drivers license read Jesus H. Christ are probably nil.  I agree about the nice story part sans the brutal crucifixion.  That being said, if more people read the actual teaching of Jesus, namely the beatitudes, the world would be a better place.

Agree - I am 100% atheist but I am also a self-aware 100% hypocrite, so I enjoy allegorical bible stories as much as the next person.  I even sprang for the Zefirelli Jesus of Nazareth TV series a couple of years ago - it's nice to see some 'innocent beards' now and again



I just farted

I just LOL'ed
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 19, 2021, 09:18:16 AM
I just LOL'ed

I just watched an ep of Remington Steele!
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 19, 2021, 10:12:30 AM
It all depends on how you define "evidence". Materialists usually don't have beliefs unless there is evidence from science or observation to support them.
They absolutely have beliefs and is it pervasive in their studies.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Henda on February 19, 2021, 10:32:21 AM
Henda,

Sounds like your life has been one of many enjoyable evenings with your mates at the pub drinking pints of ale you have a penchant for, avoiding bellends and narky, cheeky, stinking cunts [except for one notable one on Getbig who sharted and stank up the entire Arnold Classic expo convention hall, on multiple occasions].

Not to mention, many enjoyable trolly rides.

My friend invited a true Englishman over to my place once. I asked him "Speaking Canadian English, do I sound like a bum to you?"

He replied "It sounds pretty common, yes."

An Englishman's way of telling me, yes, I sound like a bum.

I'm sort of curious if we spoke in person, if you'd expect me to say "I wash muhself with a rag on a stick!" [like our stinking friend does].

When you met hippo did you notice the customary obesity stink they all have which is a grotesque mixture of shit, piss and sweat rolled into one repugnant odour?

Definitely those were good times mate loved those days finishing graft on a Friday summers afternoon then getting ready and going out with mates not a care in the world the Main Street and takeaways still busy at 2am great magical days before the club and pub scene died our local nightclub was a shithole but also the greatest place on earth would give anything to relive those days

I wouldn’t think sound common I reside in northern England mate we sound common as muck far from the way plum speaking English twats sound in films
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Taffin on February 19, 2021, 11:00:47 AM
I just watched an ep of Remington Steele!

 :D

(http://i.postimg.cc/ydN0gKS8/taffin-happy-dance-2-cropped.gif)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: funk51 on February 19, 2021, 01:19:04 PM
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 20, 2021, 03:21:28 AM
She had a hell of a voice.  I'll bet she was wild in the sack in the 70's and 80's.  She "dated" a lot of young guys in Hollywood.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: honest on February 20, 2021, 03:39:58 AM
when your dead your dead.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: joswift on February 20, 2021, 03:41:41 AM
we are already dead, Getbig is the afterlife, have you noticed no one ever really leaves?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 20, 2021, 03:50:49 AM
when your dead your dead.
Yes, your body dies.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: pamith on February 20, 2021, 03:02:25 PM
Tbh I tend to think that we live forever (immortal)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 20, 2021, 04:45:29 PM
when your dead your dead.


"NOT" if you are muslim , they go to paradise & get 72 virgins  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: wes on February 20, 2021, 04:51:35 PM
Waiting for Wes to confirm
You funny bastard !  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Automation on February 20, 2021, 11:37:27 PM
One of the things that has disappointed me as a philosopher is to discover there is no evidence, other than the fabricated Bible, that he even existed.

Without wishing to be a pedant; that would make you a historian, not a philosopher.

That said, I would be intrigued to read your philosophical thesis.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: galain on February 20, 2021, 11:48:00 PM

"NOT" if you are muslim , they go to paradise & get 72 virgins  ;D ;D ;D

I'm picturing these jihadists arriving to a cloud full of computer nerds.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2021, 01:50:06 AM
heres an idea, most near death experiences talk about going towards a light, maybe the light is the outside of a vagina and when you go through into the light you are just reborn again with no memory of your previous life.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 21, 2021, 02:41:41 AM

"NOT" if you are muslim , they go to paradise & get 72 virgins  ;D ;D ;D
I'd rather have 12 whores.  What am I going to do with 72 virgins?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Arthur Nus on February 21, 2021, 03:04:28 AM
I'd rather have 12 whores.  What am I going to do with 72 virgins?

post on getbig?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: pellius on February 21, 2021, 03:13:57 AM

Yeah, but most of us think of these things in high school.


Actually, no. Young people rarely think about death and the afterlife. They think they are immortal. Some of the greatest thinkers have pondered this concept throughout all of history and have come up with various theories. This is not child's play. Whether you believe life has any transcendent meaning or just a random concussions in the universe shapes your metaphysics and ethics. After all, if it really doesn't matter if you are good or evil, Hitler and Mother Teresa share the same ultimate fate, and since it's much harder to be good in this world, then the choice is clear and life is all about what you can away with.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: joswift on February 21, 2021, 04:04:15 AM

Actually, no. Young people rarely think about death and the afterlife. They think they are immortal. Some of the greatest thinkers have pondered this concept throughout all of history and have come up with various theories. This is not child's play. Whether you believe life has any transcendent meaning or just a random concussions in the universe shapes your metaphysics and ethics. After all, if it really doesn't matter if you are good or evil, Hitler and Mother Teresa share the same ultimate fate, and since it's much harder to be good in this world, then the choice is clear and life is all about what you can away with.

I think the ego makes us believe we are special in the universe and not just a simple organism like any other, self awareness is a curse, it gives us just enough intelligence to think there just might be something else but not the knowledge to work out what it is.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 21, 2021, 04:44:12 AM
post on getbig?
:D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: YngiweRhoads on February 21, 2021, 08:19:02 AM

Actually, no. Young people rarely think about death and the afterlife. They think they are immortal. Some of the greatest thinkers have pondered this concept throughout all of history and have come up with various theories. This is not child's play. Whether you believe life has any transcendent meaning or just a random concussions in the universe shapes your metaphysics and ethics. After all, if it really doesn't matter if you are good or evil, Hitler and Mother Teresa share the same ultimate fate, and since it's much harder to be good in this world, then the choice is clear and life is all about what you can away with.

I thought about it often in my youth. In retrospect, it was probably due to the amount of weed/hash/oil and hallicinogens I was doing at the time.  ;D

Nothing feeds a bad trip like an existential crisis.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Taffin on February 21, 2021, 08:33:35 AM
Without wishing to be a pedant; that would make you a historian, not a philosopher.

That said, I would be intrigued to read your philosophical thesis.

 ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Tapeworm on February 21, 2021, 08:43:59 AM
I'll wager Vince's Philosophy of Exercise dissertation is more rigorous than anything by Baudrillard.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: funk51 on February 21, 2021, 01:06:20 PM

"NOT" if you are muslim , they go to paradise & get 72 virgins  ;D ;D ;D
  unfortunately they look like this. :o
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanM on February 21, 2021, 02:20:56 PM
Just like a cat or dog watching someone typing on a laptop would only see fingers moving around, completely unable to comprehend what is beyond their scope - there is at least a plausible chance that part of our awareness could continue on in ways which due to our biological constraints, we just can't even fathom.

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 21, 2021, 02:39:29 PM
Just like a cat or dog watching someone typing on a laptop would only see fingers moving around, completely unable to comprehend what is beyond their scope - there is at least a plausible chance that part of our awareness could continue on in ways which due to our biological constraints, we just can't even fathom.

From terms of how our matter is distributed after we die this is true.

However there is no biological way for us to remain in a state of consciousness or awareness.

That's the kicker, once our brain dies, there is no way for us to be aware of anything. That goes against every aspect of "life" and science.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Taffin on February 22, 2021, 02:56:41 AM
Just like a cat or dog watching someone typing on a laptop would only see fingers moving around, completely unable to comprehend what is beyond their scope - there is at least a plausible chance that part of our awareness could continue on in ways which due to our biological constraints, we just can't even fathom.

There's a Matt C joke here that I'm too lazy to put together...  ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 22, 2021, 02:58:40 AM
From terms of how our matter is distributed after we die this is true.

However there is no biological way for us to remain in a state of consciousness or awareness.

That's the kicker, once our brain dies, there is no way for us to be aware of anything. That goes against every aspect of "life" and science.
Our consciousness is not contained in our biology.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 22, 2021, 09:07:43 AM
Getbig: a panoply of pansychists, panhandlers, and pandemic-denying pansexuals. It's pandemonium!
Don't forget those with Peter Pan Syndrome.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: funk51 on February 22, 2021, 12:07:13 PM
                turn up your speakers.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Teutonic Knight on February 22, 2021, 12:38:40 PM


Looks like old funk41 is @ the last bus stop  ;D
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: King Shizzo on February 22, 2021, 12:40:56 PM
Don't forget those with Peter Pan Syndrome.
Still on the fence with Michael Jackson. Michael, has the same historical relvance as Michelangelo, regardless of mediums. Humans are a fickel species.

We hold grudges. We tell lies. We believe lies.

We follow blindly.

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: AbrahamG on February 22, 2021, 01:03:50 PM
Still on the fence with Michael Jackson. Michael, has the same historical relvance as Michelangelo, regardless of mediums. Humans are a fickel species.

We hold grudges. We tell lies. We believe lies.

We follow blindly. We get drunk. We suck a cock(s). We boast about it on get big.

Fixed for truth.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: pellius on February 22, 2021, 09:22:48 PM
I thought about it often in my youth. In retrospect, it was probably due to the amount of weed/hash/oil and hallicinogens I was doing at the time.  ;D

Nothing feeds a bad trip like an existential crisis.

So did I, and I also took religion very seriously. There are exceptions.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Automation on February 22, 2021, 11:19:47 PM
No, it wouldn't. Vince can elaborate if he wishes, though. I'm on a phone.

Historian:

A historian is a person who studies and writes about the past and is regarded as an authority on it. Historians are concerned with the continuous, methodical narrative and research of past events as relating to the human race; as well as the study of all history in time.

I stand corrected!

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Matt on February 23, 2021, 12:05:30 AM
There's a Matt C joke here that I'm too lazy to put together...  ;D

Yep.  ;D

PS - What happens when you die? Do you know? I'm not depressed, but there's not a moment in my life I wouldn't select being snuffed out for eternity if I could select that. I don't think people should fear nonexistence. That's like fearing an eternal dreamless sleep. That would be fantastic to me.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Zillotch on February 23, 2021, 12:22:45 AM
I'm not depressed, but there's not a moment in my life I wouldn't select being snuffed out for eternity if I could select that.


lmfao

I don't think people should fear nonexistence.

people fear death because hell is real... judgment is coming.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 01:54:57 AM


lmfao

people fear death because hell is real... judgment is coming.

Hell can't be worse than Normal Life in Swedistan
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: mac33 on February 23, 2021, 03:45:28 AM


lmfao

people fear death because hell is real... judgment is coming.

You speak the truth, "extra Ecclesiam nulla salus" still stands and we need to do better to be in a state of grace...
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 04:18:38 AM
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/abffb07403990492beeb41b2336c352f/829b350f635cfa24-73/s1280x1920/4c539020b1b994f426814a35aae1e7a839438a8f.jpg)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 23, 2021, 06:59:48 AM
Your spirit goes right up her poop shoot at death.  It's called Heaven.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 07:09:14 AM
The Perpetual PoopChute of Peace

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/441607b27b470213d284ce3cba269480/ed33899ab8c43eca-1c/s1280x1920/6066ce28f5f2ee46a59eca443800c7bca1f36e96.jpg)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: DanM on February 23, 2021, 09:28:14 AM
From terms of how our matter is distributed after we die this is true.

However there is no biological way for us to remain in a state of consciousness or awareness.

That's the kicker, once our brain dies, there is no way for us to be aware of anything. That goes against every aspect of "life" and science.

Crazy that you would assume that we even have the slightest grasp on every aspect of life.

We humans have a tendency of over-trusting in things we didn't understand as well as we thought we did. Not understanding that you don't understand. Just look at physics or biology texts from a few hundred years ago.

If anything a little humility and optimism might at least give you a healthy mindset
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 09:36:48 AM
Yeah true, what is normal today was regarded as magic / fantastic 100 years ago / 500 years ago / 1000 years ago due to the current science and understanding at that time.

Flight was fantastic and impossible back in the day, storing images as well (be it photographs or digital), and Jetpacks were inconceivable during the Roman Empire.

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/75d9594b319717d17c9d480ec13a5886/880490823aefbb10-04/s1280x1920/2fba4e9b68d363050fbd1f4dc0ae02d70cb0ebe6.png)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 23, 2021, 12:00:12 PM
Crazy that you would assume that we even have the slightest grasp on every aspect of life.

We humans have a tendency of over-trusting in things we didn't understand as well as we thought we did. Not understanding that you don't understand. Just look at physics or biology texts from a few hundred years ago.

If anything a little humility and optimism might at least give you a healthy mindset

Until we know the truth, why worship something that is fake?

There is a lot we don't know, but as of right now there is no reason to believe there is an afterlife.

We are just organisms floating through space on a rock.

The concept of afterlife comes from people who believe we are of some kind of importance.

We aren't special. No more special than a blade of grass.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Mayday on February 23, 2021, 01:07:04 PM
If this is a simulation and we die we get to play again.

 The assumption being the simulation is built around me therefore I assume I have the ability to restart a new game.

However if the assumption is the simulation is built around someone else or something else and I am an NPC in the game, then I am pretty fucked lol.


Who hasn’t played sim city sim city and for a bit of fun clicked on fire, tornado, earthquake, riots, plague etc for a bit of fun.   Tell me 2020 wasn’t sim city with all the disasters turned on lol :)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 23, 2021, 01:10:59 PM
If this is a simulation and we die we get to play again.

 The assumption being the simulation is built around me therefore I assume I have the ability to restart a new game.

However if the assumption is the simulation is built around someone else or something else and I am an NPC in the game, then I am pretty fucked lol.


Who hasn’t played sim city sim city and for a bit of fun clicked on fire, tornado, earthquake, riots, plague etc for a bit of fun.   Tell me 2020 wasn’t sim city with all the disasters turned on lol :)

This is the theory I absolutely believe in
Deja vu is a glitch in the simulation

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 02:46:16 PM
This is the theory I absolutely believe in
Deja vu is a glitch in the simulation

But who is the main player in the Simulation?

Is it built around Mayday?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c182b0a38cab034b2988d6ad1dfebfab/62f288ef35734d3c-61/s1280x1920/d01760baf37e16c5f193e6213562aac19cc485cc.jpg)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Mayday on February 23, 2021, 02:56:16 PM
But who is the main player in the Simulation?

Is it built around Mayday?

Given the pic you just posted I’d say it’s built around me lol.


If the simulation is created by us humans then at the very least we are a simulation of ourselves.

The movie Inception brings up a very good point about depth levels. In a level 1 dream they know they are in a dream but when they get to level 3 (I think) they start to forget it’s a dream.

Perhaps we are a few levels down and we forgot? If we develop a simulation then it makes it even more plausible we are already in one and probably levels down.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 23, 2021, 03:11:03 PM
Given the pic you just posted I’d say it’s built around me lol.


If the simulation is created by us humans then at the very least we are a simulation of ourselves.

The movie Inception brings up a very good point about depth levels. In a level 1 dream they know they are in a dream but when they get to level 3 (I think) they start to forget it’s a dream.

Perhaps we are a few levels down and we forgot? If we develop a simulation then it makes it even more plausible we are already in one and probably levels down.

SO if it's a simulation, What happens when we die (we think we die) in the Simulation?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/104fb3befbc0a3ef4f6831d1a27d3924/657d63400028f47d-72/s1280x1920/fa552abca6453cd0598e7ee275d008c81119c68b.jpg)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Mayday on February 23, 2021, 04:11:08 PM
SO if it's a simulation, What happens when we die (we think we die) in the Simulation?

We wake up in real life?

We enter a ‘lobby’ waiting to join another server lol?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: evacnam on February 23, 2021, 04:30:45 PM
Given the pic you just posted I’d say it’s built around me lol.


If the simulation is created by us humans then at the very least we are a simulation of ourselves.

The movie Inception brings up a very good point about depth levels. In a level 1 dream they know they are in a dream but when they get to level 3 (I think) they start to forget it’s a dream.

Perhaps we are a few levels down and we forgot? If we develop a simulation then it makes it even more plausible we are already in one and probably levels down.

ahhhhhhh my head gonna assplode, I think about this all the time
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Kwon on February 24, 2021, 06:03:21 AM
We wake up in real life?

We enter a ‘lobby’ waiting to join another server lol?

Or maybe not just another server but even another game/simulation?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c4fdad3f77fb73fa99ca7c12d9d2b1ef/tumblr_pk3wyoa7Wh1wwykz8o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 24, 2021, 09:37:38 AM
Who built the simulator?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: AbrahamG on February 24, 2021, 03:50:31 PM
Or maybe not just another server but even another game/simulation?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c4fdad3f77fb73fa99ca7c12d9d2b1ef/tumblr_pk3wyoa7Wh1wwykz8o1_400.gif)

Can you post some tit pics of this pig?
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: ThisisOverload on February 24, 2021, 03:59:05 PM
Who built the simulator?

Baby Jesus.
Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Fortress on February 24, 2021, 04:26:05 PM
Or maybe not just another server but even another game/simulation?

(https://64.media.tumblr.com/c4fdad3f77fb73fa99ca7c12d9d2b1ef/tumblr_pk3wyoa7Wh1wwykz8o1_400.gif)

Pretty face and a bush. Monster cans, too. Too bad she’s, like, 245 pounds.

Title: Re: Life After Death
Post by: Humble Narcissist on February 25, 2021, 04:09:36 AM
Baby Jesus.
The same one Rickie Bobby prays to at meals?