Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:59:26 AM

Title: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:59:26 AM
When was the powerful first steroid Dianabol marketed by Ciba and finding it's way into the Mr. America contests?
It was in 1958, the same year the Mr. America winners started dying young....1939 - 2002 Roland Essmaker age 86
1940/41 - 1998 John Grimek age 88
1942 - 1990 Frank Leight age 78
1943 - 2007 Jules Bacon age 89
1944 - 1978 Steve Stanko age 61
1945 - 2008 Clarence Ross age 84
1946 - 2005 Alan Stephan age 81
1947 - 2000 Steve Reeves age 74
1948 - 2002 George Eiferman age 76
1949 - 1992 Jack Delinger age 66
1950 - 1998 John Farbotnik age 72
1951 - 2008 Roy Hilligenn age 85
1952 - 2007 Jim Park age 79
1954 - 2007 Dick DuBois age 74
1955 - 2005 Steve Klisanin 75
1957 - 2005 Ron Lacy age 75
1958 - Dianabol introduced:
1958 - 1974 Tom Sansone age 38
1963 - 1993 Vern Weaver age 56
1974 - 2003 Ron Thompson age 59
1977 - 1986 Dave Johns age 40
1979 - 2001 Ray Mentzer age 47
1984 - 2009 Joe Meeko age 48
1992 - 2003 Mike Scarcella age 39
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 12:05:51 PM
 :)
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: BB on March 05, 2021, 12:10:39 PM
Quote from: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:59:26 AM
When was the powerful first steroid Dianabol marketed by Ciba and finding it's way into the Mr. America contests?
It was in 1958, the same year the Mr. America winners started dying young....1939 - 2002 Roland Essmaker age 86

1958 - Dianabol introduced:
1958 - 1974 Tom Sansone age 38
1963 - 1993 Vern Weaver age 56   - Didn't Weaver die of suicide or alcoholism? I remember there was something hinkey going on with him.
1974 - 2003 Ron Thompson age 59
1977 - 1986 Dave Johns age 40 -   Johns died of Valley Fever
1979 - 2001 Ray Mentzer age 47
1984 - 2009 Joe Meeko age 48 - Wasn't this suicide too?
1992 - 2003 Mike Scarcella age 39
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Megalodon on March 05, 2021, 12:10:54 PM
The mere launch of dianabol shortened the lives of every Mr. A competing after its introduction.   :D ;)

Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: ThisisOverload on March 05, 2021, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:59:26 AM
It was in 1958, the same year the Mr. America winners started dying young

 ;D

For someone who is obsessed with history, you sure don't read much.

I'm pretty sure those guys died of Covid.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 12:52:02 PM
Quote from: BB on March 05, 2021, 12:10:39 PM

   yup two suicides along with Steve michalik too.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Taffin on March 05, 2021, 12:56:27 PM
Quote from: ThisisOverload on March 05, 2021, 12:44:19 PM
;D

For someone who is obsessed with history, you sure don't read much.

I'm pretty sure those guys died of Covid.

Nah,,, these lossers were americano bodybilding filt,,,  this is meaning covid AIDS for sure,,, legit


Lion of Julian approve



Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 12:57:07 PM
Quote from: ThisisOverload on March 05, 2021, 12:44:19 PM
;D

For someone who is obsessed with history, you sure don't read much.

I'm pretty sure those guys died of Covid.
                     Mr America - AAU Overall Winners



1938 - Bert Goodrich

1939 - Roland Essmaker

1940 - John Grimek (Related Articles)

1941 - John Grimek (Related Articles)

1942 - Frank Leight (Related Articles)

1943 - Jules Bacon (Related Articles)

1944 - Steve Stanko (Related Articles)

1945 - Clarence Ross (Related Articles)

1946 - Alan Stephan (Related Articles)

1947 - Steve Reeves (Related Articles)

1948 - George Eiferman (Related Articles)

1949 - Jack Delinger (Related Articles)

1950 - John Farbotnik (Related Articles)

1951 - Roy Hilligenn (Related Articles)

1952 - Jim Park (Related Articles)

1953 - Bill Pearl (Related Articles)

1954 - Dick DuBois (Related Articles)

1955 - Steve Klisanin (Related Articles)

1956 - Ray Schaefer (Related Articles)

1957 - Ron Lacy (Related Articles)

1958 - Tom Sansone (Related Articles)

1959 - Harry Johnson (1) (Related Articles)

1960 - Lloyd Lerille (Related Articles)

1961 - Ray Routledge (Related Articles)

1962 - Joe Abbenda (Related Articles)

1963 - Vern Weaver (Related Articles)

1964 - Val Vasilieff (Related Articles)

1965 - Jerry Daniels (Related Articles)

1966 - Bob Gajda (Related Articles)

1967 - Dennis Tinerino (Related Articles)

1968 - Jim Haislop (Related Articles)

1969 - Boyer Coe (Related Articles)

1970 - Chris Dickerson (Related Articles)

1971 - Casey Viator (Related Articles)

1972 - Steve Michalik (Related Articles)

1973 - Jim Morris (Related Articles)

1974 - Ron Thompson (Related Articles)

1975 - Dale Adrian (Related Articles)

1976 - Kalman Szkalak (Related Articles)

1977 - Dave Johns (Related Articles)

1978 - Tony Pearson (Related Articles)

1979 - Ray Mentzer (Related Articles)

1980 - Gary Leonard

1981 - Tim Belknap

1982 - Rufus Howard

1983 - Jeff King

1984 - Joe Meeko

1985 - Michael Antorino

1986 - Glenn Knerr

1987 - Richard Barretta

1988 - William Norberg

1989 - Matt DuFresne

1990 - Peter Miller

1991 - Joe DeAngelis

1992 - Mike Scarcella

1993 - Billy Nothaft

1994 - Andrew Sivert

1995 - Terence Hairston

1996 - Jaime Rodriguez

1996 - Doug Rieser

1997 - Bill Davey

1998 - Harvey H Campbell

1999 - Tracey Dorsey         but I thought covid was a hoax.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Megalodon on March 05, 2021, 12:57:30 PM
Scarcella

https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/suit-settled-in-the-case-of-a-former-mr-americas-death-7125586 (https://www.dallasobserver.com/news/suit-settled-in-the-case-of-a-former-mr-americas-death-7125586)
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 01:04:39 PM
https://neckberg.com/every-winner-of-the-mr-america-competition-since-1939/
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: IroNat on March 05, 2021, 05:53:55 PM
Interesting.

Meeko and Vern Weaver committed suicide.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 05, 2021, 05:58:24 PM
Quote from: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 12:05:51 PM
:)

NOT the 1st AS, ah poor old funk41  ::)
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 05, 2021, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: ThisisOverload on March 05, 2021, 12:44:19 PM
;D

For someone who is obsessed with history, you sure don't read much.

I'm pretty sure those guys died of Covid.

Joe Bidens "China Flu" kill them  ;D
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: wes on March 05, 2021, 06:06:28 PM
Tom Sansone killed himself also.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: IroNat on March 06, 2021, 05:03:20 AM
Quote from: wes on March 05, 2021, 06:06:28 PM
Tom Sansone killed himself also.

D-bol causes suicide.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 06, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Nilivar was out a couple years before d-boll. Pearl built his entire physique on it. He was all drugs.  A slim man naturally.  And a wee liar who claims natural status even though his early books clearly boast of his 50lb gain in 3 months in 1956 on Nilivar.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: IroNat on March 06, 2021, 06:18:03 AM
Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 06, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Nilivar was out a couple years before d-boll. Pearl built his entire physique on it. He was all drugs.  A slim man naturally.  And a wee liar who claims natural status even though his early books clearly boast of his 50lb gain in 3 months in 1956 on Nilivar.

I think he won his first amateur Mr. Universe title in 1953 as a natty.

After that he was on the juice.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 06, 2021, 06:57:41 AM
Quote from: IroNat on March 06, 2021, 06:18:03 AM
I think he won his first amateur Mr. Universe title in 1953 as a natty.

After that he was on the juice.
   it's possible.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 06, 2021, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 06, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Nilivar was out a couple years before d-boll. Pearl built his entire physique on it. He was all drugs.  A slim man naturally.  And a wee liar who claims natural status even though his early books clearly boast of his 50lb gain in 3 months in 1956 on Nilivar.

FC Rangers gotta title ............... ;D
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: IroNat on March 07, 2021, 07:54:17 AM
Funk,

Serious question.

How about the Mr. Universe?

Did the mortality go down after 1958?
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: homebodybuilding on March 07, 2021, 08:13:11 AM
Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 06, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Nilivar was out a couple years before d-boll. Pearl built his entire physique on it. He was all drugs.  A slim man naturally.  And a wee liar who claims natural status even though his early books clearly boast of his 50lb gain in 3 months in 1956 on Nilivar.
I read he even tried steroids used on cattle ! was that nilivar ?
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: IroNat on March 07, 2021, 09:04:10 AM
Quote from: homebodybuilding on March 07, 2021, 08:13:11 AM
I read he even tried steroids used on cattle ! was that nilivar ?

Supposedly it was Nilevar.

Racehorses had been given steroids since the 1940s.

Nilevar was released for medical use in 1956.

https://juicedmuscle.com/jmblog/content/nilevar
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: epic is back on March 07, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
Quote from: funk51 on March 05, 2021, 11:59:26 AM
When was the powerful first steroid Dianabol marketed by Ciba and finding it's way into the Mr. America contests?
It was in 1958, the same year the Mr. America winners started dying young....1939 - 2002 Roland Essmaker age 86
1940/41 - 1998 John Grimek age 88
1942 - 1990 Frank Leight age 78
1943 - 2007 Jules Bacon age 89
1944 - 1978 Steve Stanko age 61
1945 - 2008 Clarence Ross age 84
1946 - 2005 Alan Stephan age 81
1947 - 2000 Steve Reeves age 74
1948 - 2002 George Eiferman age 76
1949 - 1992 Jack Delinger age 66
1950 - 1998 John Farbotnik age 72
1951 - 2008 Roy Hilligenn age 85
1952 - 2007 Jim Park age 79
1954 - 2007 Dick DuBois age 74
1955 - 2005 Steve Klisanin 75
1957 - 2005 Ron Lacy age 75
1958 - Dianabol introduced:
1958 - 1974 Tom Sansone age 38
1963 - 1993 Vern Weaver age 56
1974 - 2003 Ron Thompson age 59
1977 - 1986 Dave Johns age 40
1979 - 2001 Ray Mentzer age 47
1984 - 2009 Joe Meeko age 48
1992 - 2003 Mike Scarcella age 39

Your natty right ?

Why talk about this ?
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: epic is back on March 07, 2021, 10:50:03 AM
Your natty right ?

Why talk about this ?
  last I checked this is a bodybuilding site. and I thought it would be an interesting topic for users as well as non users. your input is welcomed here.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Quote from: IroNat on March 07, 2021, 07:54:17 AM
Funk,

Serious question.

How about the Mr. Universe?

Did the mortality go down after 1958?
Mr Universe - NABBA Overall Winners



1948 - John Grimek (Related Articles)

1950 - Steve Reeves (Related Articles)

1951 - Reg Park (Related Articles)

1952 - Mohamed Nasr (Related Articles)

1953 - Bill Pearl

1954 - Enrico Tomas (Related Articles)

1955 - Mickey Hargitay (Related Articles)

1956 - Ray Schaefer (Related Articles)

1957 - John Lees (Related Articles)

1958 - Earl Clark (Related Articles)

1959 - Len Sell (Related Articles)

1960 - Henry Downs (Related Articles)

1961 - Ray Routledge (Related Articles)

1962 - Joe Abbenda (Related Articles)

1963 - Tom Sansone (Related Articles)

1964 - John Hewlett (Related Articles)

1965 - Elmo Santiago (Related Articles)

1966 - Chester Yorton (Related Articles)

1967 - Arnold Schwarzenegger (Related Articles)

1968 - Dennis Tinerino (Related Articles)

1969 - Boyer Coe (Related Articles)

1970 - Frank Zane (Related Articles)

1971 - Ken Waller (Related Articles)

1972 - Elias Petsas (Related Articles)

1973 - Chris Dickerson

1974 - Roy Duval

1975 - Ian Lawrence

1976 - Shigeru Sugita    杉田茂

1977 - Bertil Fox (Related Articles)

1978 - Dave Johns

1979 - Ahmet Enünlü

1980 - Bill Richardson

1981 - John Brown

1982 - John Brown

1983 - Jeff King

1984 - Brian Buchanan

1985 - Tim Belknap

1986 - Charles Clairmonte

1987 - Basil Francis

1988 - Victor Terra

1989 - Matt DuFresne

1990 - Peter Reid

1991 - Rainer Gorbracht

1992 - Mustafa Mohammad

1993 - Dennis Francis

1994 - Nick Van Beeck

1995 - Grant Clemesha

1996 - Federico Focherini

1997 - Grant Thomas

1998 - Gary Lister

1999 - Franco Male

2000 - Sergei Ogorodnikov

2001 - Steffen Müller

2002 - Costantino Galeazzo

2003 - Hassan Alsaka

2004 - Steve Sinton

2005 - Charles Mario

2006 - Tomas Bures    (TomᚠBureš)

2007 - Orazio Salvatori

2008 - Lionel Beyeke

2009 - Martin Kasal

2010 - Miha Zupan

2011 - Paulo Lima Dos Santos

2012 - Andy Polhill

2013 - Lee Priest

2014 - Barney DuPlessis

2015 - Paul Stewart

2016 - Fabian Mayr

2017 - Lee Seung Chul

2018 - Loughlin Gannon

2019 - Jack Brooker   here is the nabba am list, this would take a lot of research. there a lot of different mr u contests.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: epic is back on March 07, 2021, 11:10:56 AM
Thanks sir

Your competition history?
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Mr Universe - NABBA Overall Winners



1948 - John Grimek (Related Articles)

1950 - Steve Reeves (Related Articles)

1951 - Reg Park (Related Articles)

1952 - Mohamed Nasr (Related Articles)

1953 - Bill Pearl

1954 - Enrico Tomas (Related Articles)

1955 - Mickey Hargitay (Related Articles)

1956 - Ray Schaefer (Related Articles)

1957 - John Lees (Related Articles)

1958 - Earl Clark (Related Articles)

1959 - Len Sell (Related Articles)

1960 - Henry Downs (Related Articles)

1961 - Ray Routledge (Related Articles)

1962 - Joe Abbenda (Related Articles)

1963 - Tom Sansone (Related Articles)

1964 - John Hewlett (Related Articles)

1965 - Elmo Santiago (Related Articles)

1966 - Chester Yorton (Related Articles)

1967 - Arnold Schwarzenegger (Related Articles)

1968 - Dennis Tinerino (Related Articles)

1969 - Boyer Coe (Related Articles)

1970 - Frank Zane (Related Articles)

1971 - Ken Waller (Related Articles)

1972 - Elias Petsas (Related Articles)

1973 - Chris Dickerson

1974 - Roy Duval

1975 - Ian Lawrence

1976 - Shigeru Sugita    杉田茂

1977 - Bertil Fox (Related Articles)

1978 - Dave Johns

1979 - Ahmet Enünlü

1980 - Bill Richardson

1981 - John Brown

1982 - John Brown

1983 - Jeff King

1984 - Brian Buchanan

1985 - Tim Belknap

1986 - Charles Clairmonte

1987 - Basil Francis

1988 - Victor Terra

1989 - Matt DuFresne

1990 - Peter Reid

1991 - Rainer Gorbracht

1992 - Mustafa Mohammad

1993 - Dennis Francis

1994 - Nick Van Beeck

1995 - Grant Clemesha

1996 - Federico Focherini

1997 - Grant Thomas

1998 - Gary Lister

1999 - Franco Male

2000 - Sergei Ogorodnikov

2001 - Steffen Müller

2002 - Costantino Galeazzo

2003 - Hassan Alsaka

2004 - Steve Sinton

2005 - Charles Mario

2006 - Tomas Bures    (TomᚠBureš)

2007 - Orazio Salvatori

2008 - Lionel Beyeke

2009 - Martin Kasal

2010 - Miha Zupan

2011 - Paulo Lima Dos Santos

2012 - Andy Polhill

2013 - Lee Priest

2014 - Barney DuPlessis

2015 - Paul Stewart

2016 - Fabian Mayr

2017 - Lee Seung Chul

2018 - Loughlin Gannon

2019 - Jack Brooker   here is the nabba am list, this would take a lot of research. there a lot of different mr u contests.
              Universe - IFBB Overall Winners



1959 - Eddie Silvestre

1960 - Chuck Sipes (Related Articles)

1962 - George Eiferman (Related Articles)

1963 - Harold Poole (Related Articles)

1964 - Larry Scott (Related Articles)

1965 - Earl Maynard (Related Articles)

1966 - Dave Draper (Related Articles)

1967 - Sergio Oliva (Related Articles)

1968 - Frank Zane (Related Articles)

1969 - Arnold Schwarzenegger (Related Articles)

1970 - Franco Columbu

1971 - Albert Beckles (Related Articles)

1972 - Ed Corney (Related Articles)

1973 - Lou Ferrigno (Related Articles)

1974 - Lou Ferrigno (Related Articles)

1975 - Ken Waller (Related Articles)

1976 - Robby Robinson                      ifbb a lot of these guys are dead.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 07, 2021, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: funk51 on March 07, 2021, 11:10:39 AM
Mr Universe - NABBA Overall Winners


  here is the nabba am list, this would take a lot of research. there a lot of different mr u contests.


Rubbish, just go to NABBA U.K. site !.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: Primemuscle on March 08, 2021, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 06, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Nilivar was out a couple years before d-boll. Pearl built his entire physique on it. He was all drugs.  A slim man naturally.  And a wee liar who claims natural status even though his early books clearly boast of his 50lb gain in 3 months in 1956 on Nilivar.

Whatever he did or didn't use apparently hasn't shortened Pearl's life. Pearl is 90 years old and still living the life.
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on March 08, 2021, 01:55:29 PM
Quote from: Primemuscle on March 08, 2021, 01:33:51 PM
Whatever he did or didn't use apparently hasn't shortened Pearl's life. Pearl is 90 years old and still living the life.

His vegetarian lifestyle saved his life. 
Title: Re: D-ball
Post by: funk51 on March 13, 2021, 06:46:35 AM
 :)