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Getbig Bodybuilding Boards => Steroids Info & Hardcore => Topic started by: JamieX4200 on April 21, 2006, 04:48:50 AM
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does tren alone cause high blood pressure?
thanks
jamie
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acctualy no...
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well i have high blood pressure, and thats all i'm running at the moment. i eat healthy and of course i exercise. could it be related to the bulking up i did and just hasn't gone down yet?
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does tren alone cause high blood pressure?
thanks
jamie
Tren is highly androgenic, so it can contribute to hypertension if you are already susceptible.
In your case, Jamie, I'd say there are other causes.
Diet most likely (judging from your pics).
DIV
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oh really, judging from your pics you look like you dont touch weights. actually my diet is healthy.
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oh really, judging from your pics you look like you dont touch weights. actually my diet is healthy.
Since when does he post pics on this site ::)
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Since when does he post pics on this site ::)
I actually think DIV has posted a pic but it's from when he was in the army. You really can't see anything though. DIV's always been against posting pics because we talk openly about using gear.
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I actually think DIV has posted a pic but it's from when he was in the army. You really can't see anything though. DIV's always been against posting pics because we talk openly about using gear.
As he should be. Anyone who talks openly about this subject should never post a pic on here...that is just stupid.
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As he should be. Anyone who talks openly about this subject should never post a pic on here...that is just stupid.
Exactly...that's why I've got no pics up on this site (or any site for that matter, or none that I know of).
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OH yeah, i'm sure cops or feds are cruising the sites.. and even if they were.. they could just get your ip.. so whats the difference if you post a picture?
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oh really, judging from your pics you look like you dont touch weights. actually my diet is healthy.
That was in '98 when I was deployed to Bosnia.
My face is blurred out, obviously.
I was lifting back then, but all the running we had to do really make it hard to keep muscle.
I don't advocate any of you post pics on here.
Don't be like the idiots on the Gossip Forum.
DIV
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OH yeah, i'm sure cops or feds are cruising the sites.. and even if they were.. they could just get your ip.. so whats the difference if you post a picture?
The Getbig website has your IP, it doesn't appear in any of your posts. In order for the feds to get it, they would have to subpoena Getbig. I doubt Getbig keeps that information or if they do they don't keep it long.
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thats weird.. cause if im not mistaken people like vp and rob have posted other peoples info. if it was that easy for them... well i'll leave the rest up to you... so a picture? big deal..
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thats weird.. cause if im not mistaken people like vp and rob have posted other peoples info. if it was that easy for them... well i'll leave the rest up to you... so a picture? big deal..
Jamie,
Ron has total control of IP's and that is why it doesn't matter what you say on here so long as you don't give out your personal information. He owns this forum and wouldn't give out IP addresses to the Feds.
Jimmy and Robert post other people's information because the information was already out there on the internet or it was posted on here. It's not rocketscience, Jamie. Use your head and stop living in fantasyland.
DIV
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damn you should be a therapist. ::) BULLSHIT they couldn't get it, and they woudlnt have to ask for it.
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damn you should be a therapist. ::) BULLSHIT they couldn't get it, and they woudlnt have to ask for it.
Yes, Jamie.
You know more about this forum and how it works than I do.
I'm only a Moderator.....
They can't get the IP, only the admin (Ron) has that and it's illegal for them to hack in to the site anyway.
The government can be sued for that.
Stop living in fantasies, this is reality.
DIV
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it's not a fantasy.... how the hell would you ever be able to prove thats how they really found you.. give me a break.
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it's not a fantasy.... how the hell would you ever be able to prove thats how they really found you.. give me a break.
I'm not getting in to this with you Jamie.
You get so worked up over things.
DIV
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you dont know how i am, or if i'm getting worked up... you obviously have no idea how things can go down.. they do NOT need his permission to get an IP... how would ever prove that.. please
SPEAK ON THIS NUGGA
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Yes, Jamie.
You know more about this forum and how it works than I do.
I'm only a Moderator.....
They can't get the IP, only the admin (Ron) has that and it's illegal for them to hack in to the site anyway.
The government can be sued for that.
Stop living in fantasies, this is reality.
DIV
I dont want to feed anyones dillusions of conspiracy but if the government can tap your phone (which is invasion of privacy) then they can damn sure hack into wherever they want.
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thank you, now can we get back into context... i eat very healthy.. i'm down to 218... no salt, and i exercise... just wandering if tren caused high blood pressure.
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I dont want to feed anyones dillusions of conspiracy but if the government can tap your phone (which is invasion of privacy) then they can damn sure hack into wherever they want.
They can't get it just because they want it. They have to have a court order to be able to do things like this, and to get this done they have to have other evidence to present to a judge to prove that the invasion of privacy is warrented. Even if there is some evidence, if it is not blatant and if the individual in question has a clean record, getting such a subpoena from a judge is very difficult.
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I'm sure your right about that. Whats legal and what they can get away with are two different things and I put more faith in the gov doing what they can get away with. I would be more worried about having my face corralated with steroid usage by my own community on a personal level though and not all the possible half-baked conspiracy theories regarding the government.
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you dont know how i am, or if i'm getting worked up... you obviously have no idea how things can go down.. they do NOT need his permission to get an IP... how would ever prove that.. please
SPEAK ON THIS NUGGA
Your behaviour on this website speaks volumes about your mental state, Jamie.
We've been over this. You've got "issues".
You believe what you believe, I'll believe what I believe.
If you don't agree with my opinion regarding IP addy's, ask Ron and he'll explain it for you.
It is his board.
DIV
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I'm sure your right about that. Whats legal and what they can get away with are two different things and I put more faith in the gov doing what they can get away with. I would be more worried about having my face corralated with steroid usage by my own community on a personal level though and not all the possible half-baked conspiracy theories regarding the government.
They's watchin right now.... ;D
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Ummmm..so Tren and Blood pressure? and I think Ruby shot JFK....and Area 51 is bullshit...
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damn your sooo good you can "read" people through computers and posts...
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Ummmm..so Tren and Blood pressure? and I think Ruby shot JFK....and Area 51 is bullshit...
Tren by itself doesn't cause hypertension.
I saw Jamie hiding behind the grassy knoll shooting up a fresh batch of Tren.
DIV
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just wandering why it's high, when thats all i'm running right now.
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just wandering why it's high, when thats all i'm running right now.
Diet.
Unless you're predisposed to hypertension.
DIV
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i am predisposed, my dad as a matter of fact just had a heart attack 2 days ago. and my diet is considerably healthy.. i cheat sometimes.. and i never add salt... only sodium i get is whats already in the meals that i dont make myself.
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i am predisposed, my dad as a matter of fact just had a heart attack 2 days ago. and my diet is considerably healthy.. i cheat sometimes.. and i never add salt... only sodium i get is whats already in the meals that i dont make myself.
If you're genetically predisposed, you'd better watch all sodium intake and make sure to keep it out of your diet as much as possible. Worse than that, when you use aromatizing AAS like D-bol/A-drol, it will only magnify the issue.
I'm not sure you are meant for the "DarkSide", Jamie.
I'm not sure it's in your best interests.
DIV
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i'm only using tren, and good diet... and i add no salt to anything the only sodium i get is whats in the lean cousine meals...
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i'm only using tren, and good diet... and i add no salt to anything the only sodium i get is whats in the lean cousine meals...
Tren only ::) lean cousine meals... :-X
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Tren only ::) lean cousine meals... :-X
LOL
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shutup ass clown, i said that because those meals come with sodium already in them.
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i'm only using tren, and good diet... and i add no salt to anything the only sodium i get is whats in the lean cousine meals...
Baby Arnold is right, Jamie.
Those lean cuisine meals could be the death of you. You have any idea how bad those things are? Too many preservatives, sodium, trans fatty acids. Why don't you cook your own meals?
That way you can determine how much salt goes in your diet.
DIV
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thats true, i need to go get a george foreman and cook chicken and cheese and stick with sphaghettie and soups and protein shakes.
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thats true, i need to go get a george foreman and cook chicken and cheese and stick with sphaghettie and soups and protein shakes.
Alright fellas ~ time for some tough love with this kid. He's 22 with a blood pressure of 155/100 :o :o :o
I don't care if he never touched another salt shaker or drop of alcohol. He's got a major red flag here and it MUST be addressed by a physician. Let's do what we can to get his ass to a Dr. pronto. :-*
BTW ~ soups are LOADED with sodium.
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not all soups... and liek i said.. they said it could be a wrong measurement because of the fact they didnt have a big enough cough. asl well as the fact as div pointed out i'm running tren and its in my family.
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not all soups... and liek i said.. they said it could be a wrong measurement because of the fact they didnt have a big enough cough. asl well as the fact as div pointed out i'm running tren and its in my family.
Even so bro it sounds like you may be playing with fire. I'd advise you to get of the gear train now, and take the Princess's advice and get your butt to the doc.
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yeah im goin to the doc, i got 40 days left as i am running tren ed... plust im taking otc stuff to help lower and it i changed my diet up a bit... im sure its a bit lower cause the cuff was too small, but it would still be high.
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yeah im goin to the doc, i got 40 days left as i am running tren ed... plust im taking otc stuff to help lower and it i changed my diet up a bit... im sure its a bit lower cause the cuff was too small, but it would still be high.
The cuff was to small? Not to be a smart ass but wouldn't you need to have like a 28" arm for one of those things not to fit? Think about it, how many 700lb obese people go to the doc every day and get there blood pressure taken...and these people have an arm diameter that is retarded in size...yes I know it's fat, but we're just refering to the cuff fitting here.
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Yah, the cuff was to small ::)
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Alright fellas ~ time for some tough love with this kid. He's 22 with a blood pressure of 155/100 :o :o :o
I don't care if he never touched another salt shaker or drop of alcohol. He's got a major red flag here and it MUST be addressed by a physician. Let's do what we can to get his ass to a Dr. pronto. :-*
BTW ~ soups are LOADED with sodium.
I agree Lil' Princess.
If he's predisposed, he should probably be diagnosed by a Doc, yet it's really up to him to do it.
I'm genetically predisposed to hypertension and I run both Clonidine and Captropril to keep it smooth.
That's taking in to account I lift and do cardio, so I can't imagine what I'd be living a sedentary lifestyle.
@Jamie, You should get your ass to a doc.
DIV
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The cuff was to small? Not to be a smart ass but wouldn't you need to have like a 28" arm for one of those things not to fit? Think about it, how many 700lb obese people go to the doc every day and get there blood pressure taken...and these people have an arm diameter that is retarded in size...yes I know it's fat, but we're just refering to the cuff fitting here.
they have different size cuffs, althought i'm sure the NURSE could be wrong ... ::)
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i'm only using tren, and good diet... and i add no salt to anything the only sodium i get is whats in the lean cousine meals...
those lean cuisine meal are pure garbage
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The cuff was to small? Not to be a smart ass but wouldn't you need to have like a 28" arm for one of those things not to fit? Think about it, how many 700lb obese people go to the doc every day and get there blood pressure taken...and these people have an arm diameter that is retarded in size...yes I know it's fat, but we're just refering to the cuff fitting here.
No...there's different size cuffs.
I used to have sometimes crazy "off the chart blood pressure" even when I wasn't on gear & in the Marines. I was in real top physical condition & couldn't figure out why something like my blood pressure was crazy high.
I talked to my sister (she's an RN) & she started asking about the method of how my blood pressure was taken. Since my sister knows me...she automatically knew that they were using the wrong cuff on me.
Here's a really good link explaining the different cuffs & how it can affect your blood pressure.
http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/lgbpcuffs.htm#Why%20a%20Large%20Blood%20Pressure%20Cuff%20Is%20Needed
Now when ever I go to the doctors & if I have an anyboy take my blood pressure....I let them know right upfront it's going to read high unless they can find a larger cuff. They usually will stop...look at me...& say "you're right...you must have been through this before" or something like that.
So just an FYI for any of you guys out there.....you can't accurately measure your BP if you're using the wrong tools from the start.
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No...there's different size cuffs.
I used to have sometimes crazy "off the chart blood pressure" even when I wasn't on gear & in the Marines. I was in real top physical condition & couldn't figure out why something like my blood pressure was crazy high.
I talked to my sister (she's an RN) & she started asking about the method of how my blood pressure was taken. Since my sister knows me...she automatically knew that they were using the wrong cuff on me.
Here's a really good link explaining the different cuffs & how it can affect your blood pressure.
http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/lgbpcuffs.htm#Why%20a%20Large%20Blood%20Pressure%20Cuff%20Is%20Needed
Now when ever I go to the doctors & if I have an anyboy take my blood pressure....I let them know right upfront it's going to read high unless they can find a larger cuff. They usually will stop...look at me...& say "you're right...you must have been through this before" or something like that.
So just an FYI for any of you guys out there.....you can't accurately measure your BP if you're using the wrong tools from the start.
Kenneth is correct.
They use the larger cuff on me, the usual one doesn't even stay on.
DIV
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true, im 17 and 3/4... was 19 but i dieted down to 215, will post all new pics in a month to this day... i look great... i think anyway.. i know i'll get ripped but atleast i have the balls to post.. but div on a side note, lets call a truce and quit playin around.. im here to learn.. not to fight.. cool?
jamiek
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true, im 17 and 3/4... was 19 but i dieted down to 215, will post all new pics in a month to this day... i look great... i think anyway.. i know i'll get ripped but atleast i have the balls to post.. but div on a side note, lets call a truce and quit playin around.. im here to learn.. not to fight.. cool?
jamiek
Whatever you say, Lil' Jamie.
DIV