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Changes to Georgia elections
Absentee ballots will be verified based on driver’s license numbers or other documentation instead of voter signatures.
Ballot drop boxes will only be allowed inside early voting locations and available strictly during business hours.
Weekend voting will be expanded for general elections, with two mandatory Saturdays offered statewide. Counties could also choose to offer early voting on two optional Sundays.
Early voting for runoffs will be reduced to a minimum of one week because runoffs will occur four weeks after general elections.
The deadline to request an absentee ballot will be set 11 days before election day.
Members of the public will be prohibited from distributing food or water to voters waiting in line. Election workers are allowed to set up self-service water stations for voters in line.
The State Election Board could remove county election boards and replace them with an interim elections manager.
A hotline to report illegal election activities will be set up in the attorney general’s office.
Counties will be required to certify election results within six days, instead of the 10 days currently allowed. Election workers will also be required to count ballots without stopping until they’re finished.
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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/georgia-voting-restrictions-bill-03-25-21/h_f7830a6516f53d90e47bca2ba99ea293 (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/georgia-voting-restrictions-bill-03-25-21/h_f7830a6516f53d90e47bca2ba99ea293)
It's now a crime in Georgia to approach voters in line to give them food and water
Republicans in Georgia have passed a sweeping elections bill that voting rights advocates say is a bald-faced attempt at voter suppression.
The new law imposes new voter identification requirements for absentee ballots, empowers state officials to take over local elections boards, limits the use of ballot drop boxes and makes it a crime to approach voters in line to give them food and water.
The law is seen as a win for former President Trump and his allies, who falsely claimed widespread voter fraud during the 2020 election. Trump himself pressured Georgia leaders to overturn Joe Biden's victory in the state.
President Biden has called bills like this "sick" and "un-American." Other Republican-led states are considering similar voter suppression laws, sparking calls for federal legislation to set a national baseline for voting rules.
Advocates said they were alarmed by measures that will allow any Georgian to lodge an unlimited number of challenges to voter registrations and eligibility, saying it could put a target on voters of color.
And Democrats in the Georgia Senate on Thursday lambasted measures that boot the secretary of state as chair of the state elections board and allow lawmakers to install his replacement, giving lawmakers three of five appointments.
Voting rights groups argue that granting the state new powers over county elections bucks the tradition of local control and could lead to a scenario in which state officials swoop in to prevent a county from certifying its election results.
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https://news.trust.org/item/20210325223236-nzehq (https://news.trust.org/item/20210325223236-nzehq)
ATLANTA, March 25 (Reuters) - Georgia on Thursday enacted broad voting restrictions championed by Republicans that activists said aimed to curtail the influence of Black voters who were instrumental in state elections that helped Democrats win the White House and narrow control of the U.S. Senate.
As soon as Republican Governor Brian Kemp signed the law, voting rights activists vowed to challenge it. The provisions add a new ID requirement for absentee ballots and limit ballot drop boxes.
Opponents of the measure decried it as among the country's most damaging attempts to limit access to the ballot box, and said it was designed to reduce the influence of Black voters.
Kemp said he expected outrage from the political left and that he offered no apology for "taking another step to making our elections fair and secure."
He alluded to the 2020 presidential race, which prompted widespread but unsubstantiated claims of election fraud from Republicans after former President Donald Trump lost to President Joe Biden, a Democrat.
"There's no doubt there were many alarming issues with how the election was handled, and those problems led to a crisis of confidence in the ballot box here in Georgia," Kemp said.
The Georgia legislation is one of more than 250 bills Republicans have filed proposing new voting limits across the country since Trump's loss in November. It passed both the state House of Representatives and Senate on Thursday afternoon; no Democratic lawmakers voted for the measure.
Asked about Republican legislators' efforts to restrict voting access throughout the United States, Biden on Thursday called such measures "un-American."
The Georgia law will make it a misdemeanor crime to give food or drinks to voters waiting in long lines. It also will set up a fraud hotline, forbid local county elections offices from taking breaks while counting ballots and shorten the runoff election cycle from nine weeks to four weeks. It will allow the state election board the power to replace local county election boards and permit challenges to voting eligibility.
Early versions of the legislation sought to limit Sunday voting, which would have curtailed traditional "Souls to the Polls" voter turnout programs popular in Black churches. Those days were restored after Democrats pushed back, and additional Saturday voting days also were included - provisions Republicans cited as examples of the law making voting more accessible.
But Andrea Young, executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Georgia, said the law "attacks absentee voting, criminalizes giving Georgians a drink of water to their neighbors (and) allows state takeover of county elections."
On Thursday, the ACLU and Georgia's state NAACP said they would consider every legal option to fight the law.
Trump battled with Republican state leaders and elections officials in Georgia for weeks after his narrow defeat, making baseless claims of election fraud that were disproved by a hand and machine recount and rejected by the courts and investigators.
On Monday, Trump endorsed a challenger looking to defeat Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in the 2022 Republican primary. (Reporting by Rich McKay in Atlanta; Editing by Colleen Jenkins, Jonathan Oatis, Bill Berkrot and Cynthia Osterman)
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I don't see the big deal about providing food/water to people in line. The other stuff doesn't seem like any sort of negative changes on their surface.
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I don't see the big deal about providing food/water to people in line. The other stuff doesn't seem like any sort of negative changes on their surface.
yeah, I am trying to understand why this is such a big deal. I am hoping someone can provide a reasonable viewpoint.
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People hand out water and then try to influence voters.
Bring your own water.
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People hand out water and then try to influence voters.
Bring your own water.
If water changes your vote......
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If water changes your vote......
Some people are easily influenced. Particularly the elderly. People will try at the last minute to change someone's mind.
I have no problem with requiring ID to vote.
It should be required and the voting boxes should be safe and monitored.
Every vote should be verified.
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Some people are easily influenced. Particularly the elderly. People will try at the last minute to change someone's mind.
I have no problem with requiring ID to vote.
It should be required and the voting boxes should be safe and monitored.
Every vote should be verified.
I agree.
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I don't see the big deal about providing food/water to people in line. The other stuff doesn't seem like any sort of negative changes on their surface.
I thought the same thing. Maybe it is an effort to keep people who aren't there to vote from influencing the vote of those who are. There are laws against campaigning and voter intimidation at the polls. They can be difficult to enforce if there are non voters hanging about.
In Oregon we vote by mail in the privacy of our own homes where there is water to drink and food to eat. :) There's not much opportunity for voter intimidation or campaigning on election day. Oregon has a history of very low incidence of voter fraud. We started voting by mail in 1987 and have been voting exclusively by mail since 1998.
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Some people are easily influenced. Particularly the elderly. People will try at the last minute to change someone's mind.
I have no problem with requiring ID to vote.
It should be required and the voting boxes should be safe and monitored.
Every vote should be verified.
bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
It's already easy to vote. But then, you already knew this but tend to view yourself as compassionate. I tend to think of you as nothing but compASSionut.
It's called talent, child of iniquity. This ain't the real world ace.
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It's already easy to vote. But then, you already knew this but tend to view yourself as compassionate. I tend to think of you as nothing but compASSionut.
It's called talent, child of iniquity. This ain't the real world ace.
compASSionut....Lol! Scott you have such a way with words. Maybe they aren't real words, but they often say more than the real ones even can. Gotta love it! I am so happy you are back on Getbig and just as feisty as ever.
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compASSionut....Lol! Scott you have such a way with words. Maybe they aren't real words, but they often say more than the real ones even can. Gotta love it! I am so happy you are back on Getbig and just as feisty as ever.
Well thank you, sir. I try but am not the wordsmith that John was nor my own beloved mother in her younger days They along with life, taught me to express myself. Still can't do math, though. Or science. Or... ;D
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Well thank you, sir. I try but am not the wordsmith that John was nor my own beloved mother in her younger days They along with life, taught me to express myself. Still can't do math, though. Or science. Or... ;D
Everyone has their shortcomings. Focus on your skills and downplay being short. I bet your mom was a hoot back in the day. There is a lot I can't do like...most other folks...just like you.
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
Hahahahahah....you have to be trolling 😂😂🤣
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
Explain.
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America is the greatest country in the world.
It should not be easy to come here, stay here or vote here.
That's what makes this country fall apart.
Why on earth should the greatest country on the planet not require ID to vote and verification of votes? that's third world shit.
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America is the greatest country in the world.
It should not be easy to come here, stay here or vote here.
That's what makes this country fall apart.
Why on earth should the greatest country on the planet not require ID to vote and verification of votes? that's third world shit.
Yep
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saw a post earlier that summed it up
what if we proposed the ability to buy a gun to mirror the republicans attempt at voter suppression
The right wing nuts would cry "Against the constitution". But it's ok when applied to voter suppression. GMAFB
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saw a post earlier that summed it up
what if we proposed the ability to buy a gun to mirror the republicans attempt at voter suppression
The right wing nuts would cry "Against the constitution". But it's ok when applied to voter suppression. GMAFB
Seriously? Lol
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
good lmao... you pussy
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saw a post earlier that summed it up
what if we proposed the ability to buy a gun to mirror the republicans attempt at voter suppression
The right wing nuts would cry "Against the constitution". But it's ok when applied to voter suppression. GMAFB
Name the specific parts that you believe are voter suppression.
And it's quite obvious you've never bought a gun in Commiefornia. ::)
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Name the specific parts that you believe are voter suppression.
And it's quite obvious you've never bought a gun in Commiefornia. ::)
What Agnostic fails to recognize as truth is that we should refuse to allow voter fraud in the name of "fairness". So yeah, we have a fucking right to suppress that which is illegal. Fucking Faux LEO BS (f)apologist of the worst kind is what he is.
Fuck That Noise.
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What Agnostic fails to recognize as truth is that we should refuse to allow voter fraud in the name of "fairness". So yeah, we have a fucking right to suppress that which is illegal. Fucking Faux LEO BS (f)apologist of the worst kind is what he is.
Fuck That Noise.
I really want to know what these guys are complaining about? I don't see anything that would stop someone from voting.
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I really want to know what these guys are complaining about? I don't see anything that would stop someone from voting.
Anyone with a modicum of common sense knows this last Presidential Election was anything but legal. They scream they want evidence but evidence is not really allowed. President Biden is a muppet made flesh and Harris is just there to have the the ability to claim a "woman of color" will be next in line for what should be called "The Inaccurate Assension". And for the libtardian morons, yes. It is spelled that way to make a point and the point makes sense.
The Demoncratic Party is hell bent on fucking America and her citizens without the happy ending. They loath Conservatives (especially so white ones) except where they are the ones foppishly willing to acquiesce body, soul and income to their leftist rote.
I spit on their kind.
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America is the greatest country in the world.
It should not be easy to come here, stay here or vote here.
That's what makes this country fall apart.
Why on earth should the greatest country on the planet not require ID to vote and verification of votes? that's third world shit.
So are you saying it should be hard to vote in a country like the U.S. where our vote actually means something? Elections are won and laws are passed all over the U.S. because people can and do vote. Would you rather our leaders be appointed and our laws dictated by whoever is in power?
I what you mean is a person must be a citizen of this country to vote here, then you are correct. Voter registration with proof of citizenship is an absolute. The method used for voting doesn't have to be complicated or difficult. Living in a state which has had vote by mail for several decades and no proof of widespread fraud. Voted ballots are due: Received by 8 pm on Election Day...period, no exceptions. I believe in this process.
Qualifications to Register to Vote
To register to vote in Oregon, you must be:
* A U.S. citizen
* A resident of Oregon
* At least 16 years old
* If you are not yet 18 years of age, you will not receive a ballot until an election occurs on or after your 18th birthday.
Registration Deadline
A new registrant must submit their online registration by 11:59:59 p.m. Pacific Time on the 21st calendar day before an election to be eligible to vote in that election, (this allows time to validate required information the registration).
https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/registration.aspx?lang=en
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Name the specific parts that you believe are voter suppression.
And it's quite obvious you've never bought a gun in Commiefornia. ::)
If you believe you live in Commiefornia, why do you stay? You are not a Communist, are you?
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bullshit
Everything in this bill is specifically designed to suppress Democratic votes
Anyone who actually cares about Democracy would want to make it EASIER for every legal voter to cast their vote
Canada requires voter id
Is Canada racist and supressive?
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If you believe you live in Commiefornia, why do you stay? You are not a Communist, are you?
There's always good men behind enemy lines.
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There's always good men behind enemy lines.
:'( :'( Beautifully put, my friend... :'( :'(
Snortland's governor and legislature is trying its best to out PC Kommiefornia's governor and legislature. Evile beings, the lot of 'em.
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There's always good men behind enemy lines.
BOOM!!
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saw a post earlier that summed it up
what if we proposed the ability to buy a gun to mirror the republicans attempt at voter suppression
The right wing nuts would cry "Against the constitution". But it's ok when applied to voter suppression. GMAFB
Where do you find this stuff?
That makes no sense and is a completely different argument.
There is no voter suppression.
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So are you saying it should be hard to vote in a country like the U.S. where our vote actually means something? Elections are won and laws are passed all over the U.S. because people can and do vote. Would you rather our leaders be appointed and our laws dictated by whoever is in power?
I what you mean is a person must be a citizen of this country to vote here, then you are correct. Voter registration with proof of citizenship is an absolute. The method used for voting doesn't have to be complicated or difficult. Living in a state which has had vote by mail for several decades and no proof of widespread fraud. Voted ballots are due: Received by 8 pm on Election Day...period, no exceptions. I believe in this process.
Qualifications to Register to Vote
To register to vote in Oregon, you must be:
* A U.S. citizen
* A resident of Oregon
* At least 16 years old
* If you are not yet 18 years of age, you will not receive a ballot until an election occurs on or after your 18th birthday.
Registration Deadline
A new registrant must submit their online registration by 11:59:59 p.m. Pacific Time on the 21st calendar day before an election to be eligible to vote in that election, (this allows time to validate required information the registration).
https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/registration.aspx?lang=en
I agree with that.
You don't have to show ID to actually vote.
Why wouldn't they require ID? It just doesn't make any sense. Also you have dead people voting, wouldn't happen with ID and verification. In the 2020 election i could have EASILY voted in Texas and New Mexico. They have no system to verify it. I have ID's and addresses in both states, own property.
I don't understand how anyone with an IQ over 80 wouldn't be for ID requirements and vote validation. The current system is archaic.
I have to show ID to buy alcohol, get on a bus/plane, enter a bar, get a job, withdraw money, etc.
You know why? So they know 100% that it is actually me.
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Canada requires voter id
Is Canada racist and supressive?
There are less than a million African American Canadians, so there's not a lot to suppress.
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I really want to know what these guys are complaining about? I don't see anything that would stop someone from voting.
Good luck with that. It's like using the phrase "institutional racism." They never have to define precisely what it is or how it is happening.
And the media is carrying their water by repeatedly saying opposition to these bills is "voter suppression."
Also, did you see the clip of Cruz going through some of the crazy parts off the HB1 bill? It includes automatically registering everyone who has a driver's license, even if that person is an illegal alien. Opposing that is voter suppression?? Crazy.