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Would you please elaborate this "peak" on this pic? :D
The big gut era started in the early 90s. In the early 90s Ronnie still had a an old school small waist physique:
Ronnie is in a wheelchair in his 50’s with 20+ surgeries, countless kids he doesn’t know about
Arnold clearly looks better.
Ronnie is in a wheelchair in his 50’s with 20+ surgeries, countless kids he doesn’t know about
Arnold clearly looks better.
Yeah Buddy
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And this is an example of why many are against steroid use. Drug free Ronnie held a job and had single digit kids and knew their names.
People don’t like to talk about how steroid pills ruin lives and create a generation of fatherless children.
But it was all fake and he disappeared when he went off cycle.;D
I assume you mean better then, than he does now. Don't we all? Arnold is a good example of how much bodybuilding has changed. Compare his physique to some of the stars of today and he resembled a human only much more fit than most. But, he did not look like a freak of nature.
The “Stars” of today are all at least a half a foot shorter. So, while they are more inflated, they’re not more impressive.In fact my friend.................. .THEY FUCKING SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
In fact my friend.................. .THEY FUCKING SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
In fact my friend.................. .THEY FUCKING SUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111
Compare prime-Arnold with Branch Warren for example.
Bloofy and Short compared to The Oak!
Branch would make a "prime-Arnold" look skinny, smooth AND fat lol
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Well Ronnie’s nipples are more peaked.yep thats a fact! could Franco also had some gyno and still pulled of a Mr.O. An average person would not even see that!
The big gut era started in the late 90s. In the early 90s Ronnie still had a an old school small waist physique:I wanted to point that out as well! lol
Put them next to eachother and Branch would look like a bloofy little dwarf :D
Branch would make a "prime-Arnold" look skinny, smooth AND fat lol
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Branch would make a "prime-Arnold" look skinny, smooth AND fat lol
I prefer who ever coined the term smashed bag of assholes
Why didn’t you post a pic of prime branch?
this is the finest and most eye pleasing physique to be onstage the past 27 yearsThat was taken when he had both legs.
That was taken when he had both legs.
The “Stars” of today are all at least a half a foot shorter. So, while they are more inflated, they’re not more impressive.Arnold was and still is a freak! The difference between 1974 and 2021 bodybuilding is I’d rather look like the guys in 1974, who wants to look like Phil Heath?
Why didn’t you post a pic of prime branch?
Arnold was and still is a freak! The difference between 1974 and 2021 bodybuilding is I’d rather look like the guys in 1974, who wants to look like Phil Heath?
Michael Hudon
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I think the guys of the 60's and 70's look the best. No Homo.
But bodybuilding as a "sport" has changed a lot.
Today it's more about drugs over genetics. Example, see Branch Warren. Little midget boy has the worst genetics, but made up for it by using insane doses of gear.
Ronnie looked better in the 90's.
I would never want to look like the guys competing today.
Branch and Ronnie are so yesterday, not today.
Branch Warren - 2015 Mr. Olympia 6th age: 46
Ronnie Coleman - 2007 Mr. Olympia 4th age: 56
Here is an example of today's bodybuilder:
Mamdouh Elssbiay - 2020 Olympia 1st place age 36
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Branch and Ronnie are so yesterday, not today.
Branch Warren - 2015 Mr. Olympia 6th age: 46
Ronnie Coleman - 2007 Mr. Olympia 4th age: 56
Here is an example of today's bodybuilder:
Mamdouh Elssbiay - 2020 Olympia 1st place age 36
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We got to live and experience the heyday, golden age of bodybuilding and now it's a shell of a sport, people know that the muscles are from drugs and are phony.
I`d give my left nut if I could look like this.
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Would you pork guys in the ass (like oldgolds career) to look like that though?
peaked in the 90's imo...
I`d give my left nut if I could look like this.The pic with Rory in the gym with long hair is the best looking male ever (no homo). He looked like Tarzan. Women probably walked up to him in the gym and on the street and asked him for sex.
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The pic with Rory in the gym with long hair is the best looking male ever (no homo). He looked like Tarzan.WomenMEN probably walked up to him in the gym and on the street and asked him for sex.
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Would you pork guys in the ass (like oldgolds career) to look like that though?It would be a tough call. LOL ;D
The pic with Rory in the gym with long hair is the best looking male ever (no homo). He looked like Tarzan. Women probably walked up to him in the gym and on the street and asked him for sex.Not trying to be a know it all and not sure if you knew this but that`s John Aranita a former training partner of Rorys.
Not trying to be a know it all and not sure if you knew this but that`s John Aranita a former training partner of Rorys.He reminded me of Rory.
If you knew this,tell me to kindly fuck off ! ;)
It depends - do you consider an ass-munching bareback daisy-chain ghey?
Oh God! Ronnie was not 56 years old in 2007. Your googling skills are slipping. That would mean he was 47 when he won his first Mr. Olympia. Shawn Roden was the oldest bber to win the Mr. Olympia at 43 years old.
We tend to overestimate how much women are into big muscles. In my experience, they like a toned fit guy but peak Rory would be over the top and off putting even with that face.
Back in the day I used to ask women which guy they thought had a great body. The most common answer I got was David Lee Roth. This was back in the 80s when he was in his prime.
He reminded me of Rory.Fuck off wes! ;D
Would you pork guys in the ass (like oldgolds career) to look like that though?
What? Serilously? He did G4P?
Apparently he porked guys asses but no mention of cash changing hands. Might have been pro bono work.
The pic with Rory in the gym with long hair is the best looking male ever (no homo). He looked like Tarzan. Women probably walked up to him in the gym and on the street and asked him for sex.(https://madnessmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/rory_leidelmeyer_34566467_265966763978886_3944552416241778688_n.jpg)
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Rory must be doing something right to look this good at 62.
He reminded me of Rory.
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Rory must be doing something right to look this good at 62.
Would you please elaborate this "peak" on this pic? :D
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In my opinion, bodybuilding has been going downhill since 1995 or 1996.Somewhere around that time.
Bodybuilding back in the day was even less of a sport.
Think about it, if you didn't have "it" there was nothing you could do, it was all genes, gaining mass wasn't possible due to technology.
Today a less genetically gifted can compensate via more drugs, more food, harder training.
What could anyone do to beat Steve Reeves? Nothing, if he was "perfect" why even have a show.
You could gain mass simply by eating more. But only those who could do so without turning into sumo wrestlers could make it.
At least, that was the case when guys weren't required to be super ripped. In fact, competitors used to get marked down and penalized for such (i.e. Vince Gironda).
I wonder if Gironda being marked down for being too ripped was an excuse for something else. Might have been that he had a goofy looking body and judges couldn't quite put their finger on what was wrong.
That Gironda had that shape to his muscles was also mostly not due to his training style. All lower pecs. Thin legs that had no sweep. He claimed he had no sweep due to how he trained but that's BS. He said the legs should have uniform thickness top to bottom. All genes.
Gironda used to use in his marketing that he was penalized for being "too muscular". What that really means, is that he didn't have enough size. No disrespect to Gironda intended.
Gironda meant he was too ripped for the judges. It wasn't in style then.
Gironda was near the top in his day but no way was he going to beat his competition of Grimek, Reeves, or Ross or some of the other all-time greats of the time.
If he was that "ripped" but had 18" arms, he would have done just fine. Did he ever compete against any of those people you mentioned?He competed against Ross and Pearl but not against Grimek and Reeves.
(https://madnessmedia.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/rory_leidelmeyer_34566467_265966763978886_3944552416241778688_n.jpg)That's it!
SF’s Rory?No. The heterosexual fella.
Steroid using cheater!
Fake muscles!
That's it!
'Blowing out someone's candle doesn't make yours shine any any brighter'
Yes it does. If there are 2 candles and 1 goes out in the dark the remaining candle is brighter as it's the only source of light.
Yes it does. If there are 2 candles and 1 goes out in the dark the remaining candle is brighter as it's the only source of light.:D Deep philosophical discussions on Getbig.
If he was that "ripped" but had 18" arms, he would have done just fine. Did he ever compete against any of those people you mentioned?
Haha yes. "Muscularity" meant being ripped somehow too.
I never figured out that term. Didn't they used to have a muscularity round in the IFBB? Pros were confused because sometimes a small guy would win and sometimes the biggest :D
He competed against the top guys in the shows he entered.
Very few bodybuilders had actual 18" arms in the 1950s when Gironda competed until steroids came along.
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1949 Pro Mr California - 4th
1950 Mr USA, Did not place
1951 Pro Mr America, 2nd
1956 Mr USA, Did not place
1957 Mr USA, 3rd
1962 Mr. Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 2nd
Well, if you watch YouTube, you know one guy who did. ;D
I'm not sure if the IFBB was around during Gironda's heyday. Of, if it were, it certainly wasn't the top organization. NABBA and AAU ruled the roost.
Being super-ripped was not considered healthy. And, I don't think Gironda was the only competitor to be penalized for it.
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Bullsh*t.
it's not just bb. most of these old out of touch fucks here whine about how everything was better in their hayday
it's not just bb. most of these old out of touch fucks here whine about how everything was better in their haydayAnd rightfully so !!
And rightfully so !!
"They say this cat Wes is a baaaaad mutha-fu...(bitches singing)"Shut yo' mouf!" - "But I'm talkin' bout Wes?!" (bitches singing again) "Then we can dig it!"Every superhero needs a theme song!! LOL ;D
"He's a complicated manz but no one unnerstanz him but his bitches"...(bitches harmonizing) "Big Wes!"
Not very good but I am medicated and tired. Good night, Wes!
Those guys were soooo much better back in the "golden era" - I only ask myself in terms of what (size, fullness, density, volume, cuts....??? )? :D
And why isn't that an 18" arm?
it's not just bb. most of these old out of touch fucks here whine about how everything was better in their hayday
What's better about today?silence..............
What's better about today?
What's better about today?Very few things in my opinion. The things that come to mind are the ease of streaming music, communication, and GPS. Maybe throw in 3D printing as well.
18" for sure. Colbert claimed 20" arms.
There's lots of fat guys with 20+" arms. There's fat women with 20" arms.
I wouldn’t say it’s restricted to bodybuilding, but a fit healthy person is generally going to have a better quality of daily life than a fat out of shape one.
What's better about today?
Very few things in my opinion. The things that come to mind are the ease of streaming music, communication, and GPS. Maybe throw in 3D printing as well.
:)I also prefer the Larry Scott physique. Walking around with those arms would be very gratifying.
ask your dad if he feels things were better in his day, ask your grandpa if things were better in his day. I bet they both say yes,
My answer would be yes and no. It was definitely more fun and wilder when I was coming up in the eighties but today’s technology shits all over what we had back then.
Charlexs 'Chuck" Amato
no it's not, even in the middle of the pandemic I get daily invites to crazy "wild shit," it's just not available to you because no ones old people at wild shit, just like no one invited your parents to wild shit in the 80's.
What are exactly are these wild things you get invited to? Have the Gay bathhouses made a triumphant return?
I see the bars in my area. It’s not nearly as wild as it was back in the day you dummy.
By the way have your buddies in Williamsburg figured out that this Covid thing is working into a giant windfall for big Pharma yet?
(https://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=671836.0;attach=1300099;image)Surprised he had him in the top 10 at all.
Notice how Weider put Grimek in 10th. place ?
Surprised he had him in the top 10 at all.supposedly this was based on reader's write in ballots.
they did it again the next year and there were some changes.
Rock Stonewall is a great f*cking name for a muscleman! It's like being called Butch Deadlift or Dirk Hardpeck ;D(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/felixthecat/images/9/90/Rock-bottom-official-description.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/600?cb=20170604160305)
(BTW, those names - and many more like them - are credit of MST3K and can be found here https://www.rowsdowr.com/2011/04/04/space-mutiny-the-many-names-of-david-ryder-mst3k-video/ (https://www.rowsdowr.com/2011/04/04/space-mutiny-the-many-names-of-david-ryder-mst3k-video/))
And making his entry at a modest #61 is a young A. Schwarzennegger (sic) His meteoric rise to World domination begins!
Thanks funk, those lists are very intredasting to a 'bitter old fart' like myself ;) ;D
I’d say it died when the judges started awarding trophies to those with gh/insulin guts. Going on stage looking 3-4 months pregnant should not be awardedNah it started when Arnold was awarded the 1980 Mr O. I believe Arnold & Promoter Paul Graham were more than just friends :-\
Those guys were soooo much better back in the "golden era" - I only ask myself in terms of what (size, fullness, density, volume, cuts....??? )? :D
literally everything, you're just old
You can have it
Being honest Wes, would you if you were a young man in this time take all the Goodies too? I bet you would.
Yes I would sir..................... .within reason.Honest answer
literally everything, you're just old
ask your dad if he feels things were better in his day, ask your grandpa if things were better in his day. I bet they both say yes,
Exactly. These old farts with their nostalgia good old days yearnings. Name one thing that is not better. I can just look around my house and see just how much better and cheaper (adjusted for inflation) things are. My refrigerator, TV, car. washer/dryer, computer, stationary bike. I would literally not be able to train properly without the advances in equipment today. There are just some movements I can no longer do using just free weights. I just have an average midrange automobile but the shit it has. The gas mileage it gets. The amenities. How they are able to get much more horsepower out of a smaller more fuel efficient engine with fuel injectors and turbos. The safety features with camera and sensors where you have to be a complete idiot to ding your car in a parking garage. My tankless water heater never runs out of hot water no matter how many people are visiting and taking a shower one after another while I have the washer going set on hot.Most who move off the grid move back on really fast.
I have a friend who says that he's going to live off the grid in a few years. Just build a cabin and live off the land. Hunt, fish, grow his own vegetables. So f-ing clueless. Just wait until he realized that clean running water doesn't just come out of nowhere and when winter and the snow hits he's done.
literally everything, you're just old
are movies better? music? sitcoms? i can't imagine anybody thinking those are better today
sports were about sports, now it's all political
i would argue the majority of people used to look better too as this nation is more fat and tattooed than ever
video games are definitely better today than the 80's or 90's
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Most who move off the grid move back on really fast.
;D
How far back do you want to go with regard to movies and music? We weren't talking about culture/behavior issues. Next time you're in a hospital compare what you can get now to what you could get 30 years ago.
For those who prefer video, here's Ronnie Coleman, guest posingin a Hong Kong bodybuilding contest, shortly after he won his class at the IFBB 1991 Mr. Universe (there was no overall that year; but, he's called Mr. Universe anyway).
are movies better? music? sitcoms? i can't imagine anybody thinking those are better today
sports were about sports, now it's all political
i would argue the majority of people used to look better too as this nation is more fat and tattooed than ever
video games are definitely better today than the 80's or 90's
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Of course, nobody has any pics of Coleman, when he looked like this:
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You would argue that because you're old, let me guess people looked the best right around the time you were what 18-29?
How far back do you want to go with regard to movies and music? We weren't talking about culture/behavior issues. Next time you're in a hospital compare what you can get now to what you could get 30 years ago.
For those who prefer video, here's Ronnie Coleman, guest posing in a Hong Kong bodybuilding contest, shortly after he won his class at the IFBB 1991 Mr. Universe (there was no overall that year; but, he's called Mr. Universe anyway).
Charles Clairmonte, early 90s.
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Early 2020s
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What songs,if you want to call them songs..... or todays music in general will be remembered next fucking month?
What songs,if you want to call them songs..... or todays music in general will be remembered next fucking month?
In fifty years I seriously doubt many of these "gangsta" crip-hop fuckwits will be alive to reminisce about how they robbed a 7-11 to some cRap song by Ice Pee or maybe raped somebody to a tune by Cool MoFo...There will be no "Old Fart cRap Night" at Dindu Laand.You`re a funny mofo my brother!! LOL ;D
But I recall "Big Band Nights" at Disneyland in the 70s... ;D
Exactly - they just don't make wax cylinders like they used to, do they my friend?GEEZUS I gotta` srart posting with Howard over on Muscular Development............. I can`t get an iota of respect here from you young whippersnappers ! ;D
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explain how i'm wrong
you like that the average woman today is as heavy as the average man back in the 80's? you like the excessive tattoos? you like the feminism?
who are the big time models today that are hotter than cindy crawford or kathy ireland? i think rihanna was named the sexiest woman alive a few years ago, do you agree with that?
i can't wait to hear your answer to this
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What songs,if you want to call them songs..... or todays music in general will be remembered next fucking month?
Would not know because almost everything I listen to has been around for a longtime. I either listen to Pandora or Sirius radio which offer personally selected music genre and artists, for example Kurt Elling, Yo Yo Ma, Chris Botti, Nina Simone and Moby. My preferred music gendre are modern jazz, classical, musical scores, Broadway and word jazz.
What songs,if you want to call them songs..... or todays music in general will be remembered next fucking month?Prob most drake songs, anything by beyonce, rihanna, travis scott, cardib, kendrick lamar, Hell you'll be hearing wap at weddings for decades
explain how i'm wrong1) i don't fuck average women, so i don't care about what average women do
you like that the average woman today is as heavy as the average man back in the 80's? you like the excessive tattoos? you like the feminism?
who are the big time models today that are hotter than cindy crawford or kathy ireland? i think rihanna was named the sexiest woman alive a few years ago, do you agree with that?
i can't wait to hear your answer to this
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I`m into 50`s 60`s, and 70`s oldies,lots of blues, some jazz,classic rock...........Sabbath,Tull, Zeppelin,Clapton,and old shit like The Zombies,Yardbirds,CSNY,Stevie Ray Vaughn,and a ton of other shit...............way too numerou to mention.
Santana is my favorite muician, and I like a lot of Motown and old soul music too.
I`m pretty ecclectic,and also have Sirious.
I too, have Panodra and SiriusXM. I have had a lifetime sub to the latter for about a decade now. One of the last to get it too. I prefer the music of the 1940s through about 1990 with Nelson's (Can't live without) Your Love and Affection. As for Nina Simone and Moby? Nope. Traditional Jazz and Pop Vocals as well as well done (aka "Book") musicals. Examples of that would be Oklahoma!, South Pacific, Flower Drum Song and recently I purchased Damn Yankees.
Sinatra and Fitzgerald are my absolute favorite vocalists but the list is chock full of greatness. Sammy Davis Jr and Carmen McRae's Album "Boy Meets Girl" has my favorite version of "Baby It's Cold Outside" (barely edging our Margaret Whiting and Johnny Mercer's excellent version solely on the vocal play between Davis and McRae!).
Today, music is anything butt.
And yes, it is meant to be spelled that way. Something of a double entendre, if you will.
Early 2020s
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1) i don't fuck average women, so i don't care about what average women do
l iove excessive tattoos I think they're insanely sexy,
why would i dislike feminism? I like the "loose morals" that come from being sex positive.
I also think these 2 are way hotter than your childhood crushes
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Great body, but look at the facial expressions and body language. This would be a nightmare to deal with.
Rhianna...odd to look at, maybe interesting...but a classic beauty? NAH
that's not being eclectic, that's just you liking oldiesLots of different genres is eclectic, though none of the stuff is the new garbage cuz it sucks.
Prob most drake songs, anything by beyonce, rihanna, travis scott, cardib, kendrick lamar, Hell you'll be hearing wap at weddings for decades
You can tell she's a total cunt. Body language is hard to hide.
Rhianna is not that attractive in person. Her photoshopped images make her look better.
I'm more of a Tyra Banks kind of guy.
Well, actually more Selma Hayek, but you know what i mean. ;D
"drake"...*SNICKER*. "Be-Once"...LOL! "rihanna"...FTN. "Travis Scott" - Typical cRapper. "Cardi B"...oozing pustule of a skanky IOL...FTB. "kendrick lamar" - black version of the "muffin man" from "Shrek"...in other words, stupid but funny in a stoopid cRapper way. This ass-puppet and all of the others mentioned can EBAD.
Oh...And "EBAD" stands for Eat Boogers And Die. Fucking cRappers are like the black and white pretending to be black version of Beatniks and their dumb "poetry". They beez rimenz...'n' sheit.
FTN.
Prob most drake songs, anything by beyonce, rihanna, travis scott, cardib, kendrick lamar, Hell you'll be hearing wap at weddings for decades
1) i don't fuck average women, so i don't care about what average women do
l iove excessive tattoos I think they're insanely sexy,
why would i dislike feminism? I like the "loose morals" that come from being sex positive.
I also think these 2 are way hotter than your childhood crushes
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sorry about your stroke