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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: IroNat on April 12, 2021, 05:37:53 AM
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/10/covid-vaccine-nearly-forty-percent-us-marines-decline/7173918002/
"Nearly 40% of Marines decline COVID-19 vaccine, prompting some Democrats to urge Biden to set mandate for military."
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I guess they’re not big Rachel Maddow fans.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/congress-letter-military-vaccine/index.html
"I think the true opt-in rate right now would probably be around 50-ish percent," said a military health care source about numbers on a military base of some 40,000 active duty troops. The source spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss vaccinations.
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They are all healthy.
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Good!
Glad to see a few jar heads still can think for themselves.
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That means 60% are really stupid.
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That means 60% are really stupid.
...and fear their employer.
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...and fear their employer.
This.
If 50% are outright saying they don’t want the vaccine, then number which includes those that didn’t want it but fell in line anyway is way higher.
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Hmm... must admit I hadn't considered the armed forces angle
So if the vaccine has been designed to kill 90% of the people it is given to and render the survivors infertile (as some GetBiggers are saying) what would be the logic of the elites trying to kill the army?
Won't they need protection from the survivors of the apocalypse? How will they crush resistance internally or resist invasion without troops and people to operate and maintain/service the big weapons like warships and nukes?
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Hmm... must admit I hadn't considered the armed forces angle
So if the vaccine has been designed to kill 90% of the people it is given to and render the survivors infertile (as some GetBiggers are saying) what would be the logic of the elites trying to kill the army?
Won't they need protection from the survivors of the apocalypse? How will they crush resistance internally or resist invasion without troops and people to operate and maintain/service the big weapons like warships and nukes?
All good questions.
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Hmm... must admit I hadn't considered the armed forces angle
So if the vaccine has been designed to kill 90% of the people it is given to and render the survivors infertile (as some GetBiggers are saying) what would be the logic of the elites trying to kill the army?
Won't they need protection from the survivors of the apocalypse? How will they crush resistance internally or resist invasion without troops and people to operate and maintain/service the big weapons like warships and nukes?
I don't know about killing us yet but absolute lunatics have been warning us for quite some time about the government microchipping us. That's just nuts.
Gov officials say they're not going to ever want to track your every move, it's just for blah, blah, blah.
And don't worry about microchips being used for any other nefarious purposes because blah, blah, blah.
The problem is that by the time these nutty conspiracy theories actually come to fruition, everyone is primed(no pun intended) and they say that it's no big deal. "Of course microchips, you don't believe in science?" They still maintain, however, that they don't believe in conspiracy theories, because after it happens, it's no longer a theory. And things always just happen, there's no way people can conspire to effect change in advance of any change. And every organization is completely open about all their future plans, otherwise crazy people would investigate or even speculate about what they are up to.
So, if it's vaccine passports or microchips, for whatever reason, from now on it will be governments and/or corporations that will be able to enforce it. Especially corporations because the prevailing mentality is "it's just a company, they can do what they want" or "I can't travel anywhere by plane but it's okay because the government isn't doing it to me." When a monopolistic corporation or corporations in tandem strip people's rights, it's not viewed as tyranny, yet.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9460389/Pentagon-scientists-invent-microchip-senses-COVID-19-body-symptoms.html
(https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9460389/Pentagon-scientists-invent-microchip-senses-COVID-19-body-symptoms.html)
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/04/10/covid-vaccine-nearly-forty-percent-us-marines-decline/7173918002/
"Nearly 40% of Marines decline COVID-19 vaccine, prompting some Democrats to urge Biden to set mandate for military."
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/aa/dd/f3aadd83d98c3d1b6197577070892d69.gif)
Good for them!!
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I don't know about killing us yet but absolute lunatics have been warning us for quite some time about the government microchipping us. That's just nuts.
Gov officials say they're not going to ever want to track your every move, it's just for blah, blah, blah.
And don't worry about microchips being used for any other nefarious purposes because blah, blah, blah.
The problem is that by the time these nutty conspiracy theories actually come to fruition, everyone is primed(no pun intended) and they say that it's no big deal. "Of course microchips, you don't believe in science?" They still maintain, however, that they don't believe in conspiracy theories, because after it happens, it's no longer a theory. And things always just happen, there's no way people can conspire to effect change in advance of any change. And every organization is completely open about all their future plans, otherwise crazy people would investigate or even speculate about what they are up to.
So, if it's vaccine passports or microchips, for whatever reason, from now on it will be governments and/or corporations that will be able to enforce it. Especially corporations because the prevailing mentality is "it's just a company, they can do what they want" or "I can't travel anywhere by plane but it's okay because the government isn't doing it to me." When a monopolistic corporation or corporations in tandem strip people's rights, it's not viewed as tyranny, yet.
Sure, there's a lot of strands to the various theories people are subscribing to - I picked perhaps the most extreme example here of globally coordinated planned mass extermination and sterilisation
And I absolutely understand the tendency of governments to incrementally ratchet freedoms away from us - emergency 'terror' legislation that is never revoked, is the first thing that springs to mind - when was the last time a government increased freedom, FFS?!
But regarding tracking - and while I realise that GetBiggers hold to a higher level of OpSec than your regular pencil-neck - for regular folks I think I think the tracking thing is already moot if they own a smart-phone or drive a car (ANPR). I mean - who goes anywhere without their phone nowadays?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/capitol-attack-cellphone-data.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/capitol-attack-cellphone-data.html) (don't hold the source against me ;D, it's an interesting read)
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Lets be honest, its not our best and brightest that want to be Marines. I appreciate their service whole heartedly but I won't be looking to them for medical advice.
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Or political advice. Or marriage advice.
Hello Howard? ;D
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Sure, there's a lot of strands to the various theories people are subscribing to - I picked perhaps the most extreme example here of globally coordinated planned mass extermination and sterilisation
And I absolutely understand the tendency of governments to incrementally ratchet freedoms away from us - emergency 'terror' legislation that is never revoked, is the first thing that springs to mind - when was the last time a government increased freedom, FFS?!
But regarding tracking - and while I realise that GetBiggers hold to a higher level of OpSec than your regular pencil-neck - for regular folks I think I think the tracking thing is already moot if they own a smart-phone or drive a car (ANPR). I mean - who goes anywhere without their phone nowadays?
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/capitol-attack-cellphone-data.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/capitol-attack-cellphone-data.html) (don't hold the source against me ;D, it's an interesting read)
You're absolutely right about smartphone GPS and the ability to already track everyone. That's a great example of getting what they wanted but not necessarily the way it was predicted. With a microchip, no one really knows what all can be controlled or tracked(other than location). People's behaviors at any given time, for example. For that as well, they'll be able to achieve similar ends in other ways, chips may end up being out of the equation entirely. What is considered too crazy to speculate about is narrowing quickly.
I discount less and less of anything people say might come down the pike at some point, including mass sterilization or whatever, even more so because of the last year. If anyone posting here in Dec 2019 said that all gyms would be closed the next year because of a pandemic, I don't think any of us would have believed it. I always liked Getbig over all other BB forums, ones that I was aware of, because it seemed to attract people who saw through the BS about supplements, steroids, and anything else the magazines lied to us about. It seems the majority of people here also apply that critical thinking to non-bodybuilding issues, which is great.
My free NY Times articles has reached its limit.....however.... I have a quick trick to get free articles for anyone in a similar circumstance. Load the page, very quickly press ctrl-A to select the entire page's text. Then very quickly press Ctrl-C to copy, and then just paste it in a text editor. When blocked, the page loads but then is then blocked within 2 seconds, and this is a workaround. Here are other ways(but they don't have my method :D): https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/12-ways-to-get-past-a-paywall/ (https://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/12-ways-to-get-past-a-paywall/)
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Just delete your browser cookies.
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Just delete your browser cookies.
I do that but not very frequently because I'm lazy about having to re-login to several sites. :-\
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That means 60% are really stupid.
Likely a better ration than in the general population.
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I do that but not very frequently because I'm lazy about having to re-login to several sites. :-\
There are add-ons that will only delete the cookies you don't want.
Depends on what browser you use of course.
Dang, I'm starting to sound like Prime.
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Lets be honest, its not our best and brightest that want to be Marines. I appreciate their service whole heartedly but I won't be looking to them for medical advice.
You're right, you should follow the science and listen to journalists, celebrities and bankers.
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You're right, you should follow the science and listen to journalists, celebrities and bankers.
or you know, doctors and scientists
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It’s already starting to become impractical to not get the vaccine if you need to attend events for business and travel.
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It’s already starting to become impractical to not get the vaccine if you need to attend events for business and travel.
I believe this will be temporary. It’s just another way to have a chilling effect on spending and prevent hyper inflation.
Seems like the vaccination scam is starting to fall apart. New York City just announced they are pausing J and J vaccines. There was already a lot of vaccine hesitation and this isn’t going to help. It’s all based on the fraud that we need this vaccination in order to open up society when that was never the case.
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It’s already starting to become impractical to not get the vaccine if you need to attend events for business and travel.
Can you give an example?
Where have you not been able to travel without the vaccine ?
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Can you give an example?
Where have you not been able to travel without the vaccine ?
I had to go to a sporting event with clients this past week. In order to get into the arena I needed to show proof of the vaccine or a negative COVID test within 72 hours so I had to get tested since I’m not vaccinated. If I was vaccinated I would’ve just walked right in. Before that I had to travel to the Caribbean on business and also had to get tested before going and before returning to avoid having to quarantine when I got back to the States.
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There are add-ons that will only delete the cookies you don't want.
Depends on what browser you use of course.
Good idea. Thanks. I did this on Chrome and deleted anything nytimes:
Delete specific cookies:
On your computer, open Chrome.
At the top right, click More. Settings.
Under "Privacy and security," click Cookies and other site data.
Click See all cookies and site data.
At the top right, search for the website's name.
To the right of the site, click Remove .
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The US Navy wants us to know that it proudly hides behind a mask.
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or you know, doctors and scientists
Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
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Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
how do you know? if they're silenced how do you know about them
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how do you know? if they're silenced how do you know about them
They get silenced on major platforms, but not all platforms.
The major platforms are enough to keep the data away from the average person.
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Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
The ones Rachel Maddow interviews.
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I had to go to a sporting event with clients this past week. In order to get into the arena I needed to show proof of the vaccine or a negative COVID test within 72 hours so I had to get tested since I’m not vaccinated. If I was vaccinated I would’ve just walked right in. Before that I had to travel to the Caribbean on business and also had to get tested before going and before returning to avoid having to quarantine when I got back to the States.
Oh so the vaccine wasnt mandated you just needed to be negative for Covid19. That's not really new for international travel.
Thanks for sharing this, I misunderstood what you meant.
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Oh so the vaccine wasnt mandated you just needed to be negative for Covid19. That's not really new for international travel.
Thanks for sharing this, I misunderstood what you meant.
I bet the testing thing is going to be phased out pretty soon. Many of the venues are owned by the big banks and they’re not going to step on their own income stream by having testing requirements.
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Oh so the vaccine wasnt mandated you just needed to be negative for Covid19. That's not really new for international travel.
Thanks for sharing this, I misunderstood what you meant.
It was not mandated but if it becomes easier for me to just get the vaccine so I can travel and go places, rather than having to get tested constantly, I will just get the vaccine to save time and effort.
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It was not mandated but if it becomes easier for me to just get the vaccine so I can travel and go places, rather than having to get tested constantly, I will just get the vaccine to save time and effort.
I gotcha.
Your originally said it was impractical to travel without the vaccine, I travel in domestically in the US and I haven’t had to provide proof of vaccination. I realize international travel is much different and it makes more sense to be vaccinated, as you said.
Honestly there’s so much information on this who knows what is true. I think Taffin said it best when he said Covid will kill you but the Vaccine is worse. lol.
You can’t win for losing.
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how do you know? if they're silenced how do you know about them
Alternate media, dipshit.
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I discount less and less of anything people say might come down the pike at some point, including mass sterilization or whatever, even more so because of the last year. If anyone posting here in Dec 2019 said that all gyms would be closed the next year because of a pandemic, I don't think any of us would have believed it. I always liked Getbig over all other BB forums, ones that I was aware of, because it seemed to attract people who saw through the BS about supplements, steroids, and anything else the magazines lied to us about. It seems the majority of people here also apply that critical thinking to non-bodybuilding issues, which is great.
Great thread here.
I feel the exact same way - things are simply too weird for me to discount anything, at this point.
I would have never guessed the sheer level of hysteria currently happening would ever be a thing any time soon. Especially in Ontario - under a so-called Conservative government, no less.
I thought demographic change would slowly make Canada turn into a northern hemisphere Brazil...I did NOT expect to be living under a soft dictatorship on the verge of becoming a full one, like we are currently seeing.
I have a 330-lb premier scolding me about matters related to my health. It's utterly insane.
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You decide to get a vaccine when you are healthy, but not because you are sick, but are afraid to get sick.
Instead, you get sick because of the vaccine, and nobody can tell you the symptoms to come, how long they last, or if they are permanent. So exactly what should I be afraid of?
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Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
No, there are not. Plain and simple.
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Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
Indeed.
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No, there are not. Plain and simple.
Yes, there are.
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Yes, there are.
At this point, most of the people who are still buying into all the bullshit have a vested interest in doing so. They usually work for the government or some institution where falling out of line would cost them their jobs. The others are just clueless.
I hear all these people bragging about getting vaccinated as though they did some sort of social service when in reality they were just coerced by the government and the media.
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At this point, most of the people who are still buying into all the bullshit have a vested interest in doing so. They usually work for the government or some institution where falling out of line would cost them their jobs. The others are just clueless.
I hear all these people bragging about getting vaccinated as though they did some sort of social service when in reality they were just coerced by the government and the media.
Yep, they lose their career if they go against the narrative.
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No, there are not. Plain and simple.
https://gbdeclaration.org
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That means 60% are really stupid.
Well they did join the Military...
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Yep, they lose their career if they go against the narrative.
Good thing I haven't got one of those!
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Which doctors and scientists? There's a large number of doctors and scientists silenced.
Most of them know what's up, roll their eyes in private and watch the money machine churn.
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Yep, they lose their career if they go against the narrative.
https://granthshala.com/washington-posts-rogin-exposes-media-for-hushing-coronavirus-outbreak-details-linked-to-fauci/
I often talk to scientists who say the same thing, who say, ‘Listen, we really want to talk about this, but we can’t do that. Why can’t we do that? Well, We get all ours. Money from the NIH, or NIAID … which is run by Dr. Fauci, “” he said on Kelly’s podcast. “And so we can’t say something like ‘Oh, gain-off -Function research can be dangerous, or it may have come from a laboratory, because we are going to lose our career, we will lose our money, we are not able to work
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Good thing I haven't got one of those!
There is great freedom in being a NEET.