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Dems gave the McCarthy EVERYTHING that he requested and then he turned around and rejected it ..along with most House Republicans
How do you deal with someone who says give me X, Y and Z and then turns around and rejects it.
Republicans have once again demontrated that their word means NOTHING
Negotiating on behalf of House Republicans, Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.) had fought successfully to diminish any partisan edge surrounding the Jan. 6 investigative panel, which was modeled on the 9/11 commission. In crafting legislation with Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), Katko secured requirements for equal representation on the commission, bipartisan support for subpoenas and a sunset date of Dec. 31, more than 10 months before midterm voters head to the polls.
Now the Dems actually have a better option
Pelosi can do a Select Committee which is totally controlled by the Dems and can be extended well into next year
While sinking the commission would satisfy the Republicans' short-term objective of appeasing former President Trump, it would almost certainly prompt Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) to launch a special investigation of her own — one that could play to the long-term advantage of Democrats heading into the 2022 midterms.
Not only would a select committee allow the majority Democrats to steer the process, including decisions surrounding the issuance of subpoenas. It would also empower Pelosi to extend the investigation well into next year, heightening the political potency of its findings ahead of elections when control of both chambers is up for grabs and Republicans are eyeing a return to power.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/555504-gop-gambles-with-pelosi-with-opposition-to-jan-6-commission
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They are not appeasing the Traitor? The guy who takes China money and Ukraine?
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They are not appeasing the Traitor? The guy who takes China money and Ukraine?
Kevin McCarthy swore to god that Putin pays Trump so it's not hard to believe he is also getting paid by China and Ukraine
Since you asked the question I assume you already knew about this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/05/27/feds-reportedly-investigate-anti-biden-election-meddling-by-ukrainians/?sh=70df9d586a4f
BTW - aren't you glad that Pelosi and the Dems are now able to completely control the investigation into the January 6th attack on our country
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Kevin McCarthy swore to god that Putin pays Trump so it's not hard to believe he is also getting paid by China and Ukraine
Since you asked the question I assume you already knew about this
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/05/27/feds-reportedly-investigate-anti-biden-election-meddling-by-ukrainians/?sh=70df9d586a4f
BTW - aren't you glad that Pelosi and the Dems are now able to completely control the investigation into the January 6th attack on our country
LOL
I honestly dont care about all the fake pro-rasslin like shenanigans the dems like to play.
Comical at this point.
Pubturdz are very weak kvnts as well. We had one non-politician in for 4 years, scared them all, both parties.
Neither wanted their riches and govt mansions and pensions and lifelong health care taken away.
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LOL
I honestly dont care about all the fake pro-rasslin like shenanigans the dems like to play.
Comical at this point.
Pubturdz are very weak kvnts as well. We had one non-politician in for 4 years, scared them all, both parties.
Neither wanted their riches and govt mansions and pensions and lifelong health care taken away.
You think the January 6th attack on our country was comical ?
the only people scared of THE TRAITOR are Republicans
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lol...still the most powerful person in the country
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lol...still the most powerful person in the country
you made that absurd claim before and I asked you to give some examples and you never did
will you run away again this time
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ANOTHER TDS thread by the resident trash collector
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You think the January 6th attack on our country was comical ?
the only people scared of THE TRAITOR are Republicans
OBW BoB, where have U been on the January 8 ?.
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OBW BoB, where have U been on the January 8 ?.
can someone translate this from Trumptard to English for me
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Dems gave the McCarthy EVERYTHING that he requested and then he turned around and rejected it ..along with most House Republicans
How do you deal with someone who says give me X, Y and Z and then turns around and rejects it.
Republicans have once again demontrated that their word means NOTHING
Now the Dems actually have a better option
Pelosi can do a Select Committee which is totally controlled by the Dems and can be extended well into next year
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/555504-gop-gambles-with-pelosi-with-opposition-to-jan-6-commission
Fear of Trump so great it keeps some Republicans from making intelligent choices, which in the long run would save their mission of American conservatism.
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lol...still the most powerful person in the country
In the minds of fewer and fewer people each day. Many Republicans are deeply concerned that Trump's return to rallying will kill any chance they have at gaining seats in the mid-terms. I say, let the man have his egocentric rally cries. You go guy! Keep telling this ever shrinking group of sheep who swallow your whining lies proclaiming the election was stolen from you. Keep taking their money for your personal 'poor me' issues instead of them using it to support the Republican party.
Hey Trump, have you considered asking Marjorie Taylor Greene to be your running mate in 2024? What an amazing ticket that would be. Two nuts instead of one.
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can someone translate this from Trumptard to English for me
There are some languages for which there is no translation. Gibberish being one of them. :)
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can someone translate this from Trumptard to English for me
I think this is technically 3rd world Trumptard. Not sure it's translatable.
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why do they need to investigate ANTIFA being let into the capital via opened doors on Jan 6th?
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why do they need to investigate ANTIFA being let into the capital via opened doors on Jan 6th?
I thought they were tourists?
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I think this is technically 3rd world Trumptard. Not sure it's translatable.
Ask local imam to help yaaa ;D
I'm really "missing" dust of Uruzgan & weekends in Tora Bora mountains (+ daily cleaning of TF2) 8)
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I think this is technically 3rd world Trumptard. Not sure it's translatable.
It’s a form of Trump pidgin.
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why do they need to investigate ANTIFA being let into the capital via opened doors on Jan 6th?
Probably because it wasn't ANTIFA that stormed the capital. This has already been hashed out and proven to be fucking nonsense. Where have you been since this conspiracy theory died? Probably under a rock.
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Do we really need to spend millions of dollars investigating what we already know??? A bunch of people were protesting the election process when they got excited and entered the capital waving flags while police took selfies with them a few others got into a fist fight with some guards in body armor. One crazy dude even had a spear and a bison headress with some cool celtic tattoos he didnt fight anyone they let him walk in. Some windows were broken one lady was shot for no damn reason and AOC keeps pretending it was an armed insurrection. It looked more like fans storming a football field. No one was shooting or carrying firearms or planning to hold the capital they literally just walked in after some wrestling and shoving with riot cops. Security was very lax considering they knew there was going to be a protest. Attack on the country lol it was literally a bunch of American flag waving patriots walking around taking selfies. What else is there to know???
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Do we really need to spend millions of dollars investigating what we already know??? A bunch of people were protesting the election process when they got excited and entered the capital waving flags while police took selfies with them a few others got into a fist fight with some guards in body armor. One crazy dude even had a spear and a bison headress with some cool celtic tattoos he didnt fight anyone they let him walk in. Some windows were broken one lady was shot for no damn reason and AOC keeps pretending it was an armed insurrection. It looked more like fans storming a football field. No one was shooting or carrying firearms or planning to hold the capital they literally just walked in after some wrestling and shoving with riot cops. Security was very lax considering they knew there was going to be a protest. Attack on the country lol it was literally a bunch of American flag waving patriots walking around taking selfies. What else is there to know???
Your analogy is very interesting and certainly gives one pause. Hank, you forgot to mention how many people died or suffered injuries because of this event (call it what you will). Moreover, do you think the business of political process is best compared to fans storming a football field? Is that who we have become?
Then fuck it! Everyone should embrace a colossal free-for-all with no prisoners taken. How about we dial back the clock to a time when man was not much more than a tribe of wild animals fighting for a scrap of meat. Progression or regression....take your pick. ::)
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Your analogy is very interesting and certainly gives one pause. Hank, you forgot to mention how many people died or suffered injuries because of this event (call it what you will). Moreover, do you think the business of political process is best compared to fans storming a football field? Is that who we have become?
Then fuck it! Everyone should embrace a colossal free-for-all with no prisoners taken. How about we dial back the clock to a time when man was not much more than a tribe of wild animals fighting for a scrap of meat. Progression or regression....take your pick. ::)
Portland is still burning, you support terrorists and anarchists. And how many people do you think died when they were let into the capital building?
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Portland is still burning, you support terrorists and anarchists. And how many people do you think died when they were let into the capital building?
The death toll as a result of January 6th has already been stated by people who know more than you or I. Why are you asking me questions which have already been answered?
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TDS is still running wild.
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The death toll as a result of January 6th has already been stated by people who know more than you or I. Why are you asking me questions which have already been answered?
No it hasn't, the death toll has varied from 1-6+ depending on which article you read and how many people they include that died of natural causes AFTER Jan 6th.
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No it hasn't, the death toll has varied from 1-6+ depending on which article you read and how many people they include that died of natural causes AFTER Jan 6th.
This should be required reading. It shows how the media and politicians can change a narrative.
Greenwald is one of the few real journalists left:
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-false-and-exaggerated-claims
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This should be required reading. It shows how the media and politicians can change a narrative.
Greenwald is one of the few real journalists left:
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-false-and-exaggerated-claims
Regardless of evidence and no matter how many times liberal story tellers have to quietly walk back on their blown out of proportions accusations, the sheep will continue to follow the all caps, bolded headlines and never investigate on their own.
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No it hasn't, the death toll has varied from 1-6+ depending on which article you read and how many people they include that died of natural causes AFTER Jan 6th.
Brian Sicknick - who was beaten during the (whatever you want to call it) might have died because of mace or bear spray. He died the next day. The exact cause if death is unknown.
Ashli Babbitt - was fatally shot by capitol police as she climbed through a broken window.
Kevin Greeson, 55- suffered a heart attack, fell to the sidewalk and died.
Rosanne Boyland - appears to have been crushed by fellow protesters as they broke through the police line.
Benjamin Philips - was 50 years old. He died as the result of a stroke. The exact details of his death are not clear.
Jeffrey Smith and Howard Liebengood - committed suicide in the aftermath of the riot.
One could argue that dying from a stroke and from a heart attack during the Capitol melee were deaths by natural causes. Question is, would these two have died had they been somewhere else on that day? In fact, would any of these people died had that event on January 6th never happened?
I would have guessed more, but as best as I can figure out one person, Aaron J. Danielson was shot and died during the Portland riots.
Protesters in Portland have caused an estimated $2.3 million in damages to federal buildings. Other associated costs are ongoing. I'm not sure if Portland businesses loss over the course of the riots have been currently tabulated, but it was an estimated $23 million a little less than a year ago. The exact figure is going to be hard to determine because of the simultaneous losses due to COVID.
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Looks like Prime skipped the article.
In Sicknick's case, it's still not known publicly what caused him to collapse the night of the insurrection. Findings from a medical examiner's review have not yet been released and authorities have not made any announcements about that ongoing process.
According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.
The CNN story speculates that perhaps Sicknick inhaled “bear spray,” but like the ProPublica interview with his brother who said he inhaled pepper spray, does not say whether it came from the police or protesters. It is also just a theory. CNN noted that investigators are “vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month's insurrection.” Beyond that, “to date, little information has been shared publicly about the circumstances of the death of the 13-year veteran of the police force, including any findings from an autopsy that was conducted by DC's medical examiner.”
His passing is tragic, but that is not the context of the discussion here, it's about false narratives turning into "reality".
So, no evidence of anything, but something caused Prime to say he was beaten.
He must have picked it up from an erroneous report, but it doesn't matter.
It gets into the heads of those who don't do their homework, and becomes fact.
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Looks like Prime skipped the article.
His passing is tragic, but that is not the context of the discussion here, it's about false narratives turning into "reality".
So, no evidence of anything, but something caused Prime to say he was beaten.
He must have picked it up from an erroneous report, but it doesn't matter.
It gets into the heads of those who don't do their homework, and becomes fact.
I believe it was something I read. However, I cannot find that source again. Initially, it was thought he was hit with a fire extinguisher, which might be was I was thinking about. Anyway, I've lined out that part of the post, (I'd remove it except then I'd be accused of trying to cover up a mistake). The rest of the post with regards to Sicknick, I left as it was originally posted. Dead is dead whether it was the bear spay, mace or something else...possibly a stroke or two. Sicknick is gone. Would he still be with us had the riot never happened or is it just a coincidence that he died the next day?
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I believe it was something I read. However, I cannot find that source again. Initially, it was thought he was hit with a fire extinguisher, which might be was I was thinking about. Anyway, I've lined out that part of the post, (I'd remove it except then I'd be accused of trying to cover up a mistake). The rest of the post with regards to Sicknick, I left as it was originally posted. Dead is dead whether it was the bear spay, mace or something else...possibly a stroke or two. Sicknick is gone. Would he still be with us had the riot never happened or is it just a coincidence that he died the next day?
All those things you mention in the first sentence are the crux of the article. I highly suggest you read it.
It clearly explains how the fire extinguisher story became mainstream and accepted, despite there never being any evidence that it happened. Same for the alleged beating.
Yet, "because of some article", it's in your head, and you posted it as if it were fact, which makes the article's entire point.
What I can't fathom is how people don't at least give pause on things before repeating them, in light of all the misinformation that's been perpetuated mostly due to some form of TDS.
Wuhan lab/Covid origination is the latest one that seems to be turning.....
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All those things you mention in the first sentence are the crux of the article. I highly suggest you read it.
It clearly explains how the fire extinguisher story became mainstream and accepted, despite there never being any evidence that it happened. Same for the alleged beating.
Yet, "because of some article", it's in your head, and you posted it as if it were fact, which makes the article's entire point.
What I can't fathom is how people don't at least give pause on things before repeating them, in light of all the misinformation that's been perpetuated mostly due to some form of TDS.
Wuhan lab/Covid origination is the latest one that seems to be turning.....
You've made some valid comments here. You are so right. But, give me some credit, I also posted that the cause of his death has not yet been resolved.
Seems like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. One of the reason's I Google stuff as much as I do is exactly because inaccuracies occur when we rely solely on our memories. I don't know how old you are, but many people my age who have paid attention to detail all their lives, have a full house of memories stored in our aging heads.
This is a good example of what can happen when I don't 'Google' but 'shoot from the the hip' instead. I'd stick with expressing my opinion except opinions are a dime a dozen and even when I use the proviso, IMO, it is treated as if I was stating a fact and I get hammered for it.
This is not my pitty party, it is just how things go around here....for almost everyone.
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You've made some valid comments here. You are so right. But, give me some credit, I also posted that the cause of his death has not yet been resolved.
Seems like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. One of the reason's I Google stuff as much as I do is exactly because inaccuracies occur when we rely solely on our memories. I don't know how old you are, but many people my age who have paid attention to detail all their lives, have a full house of memories stored in our aging heads.
This is a good example of what can happen when I don't 'Google' but 'shoot from the the hip' instead. I'd stick with expressing my opinion except opinions are a dime a dozen and even when I use the proviso, IMO, it is treated as if I was stating a fact and I get hammered for it.
This is not my pitty party, it is just how things go around here....for almost everyone.
What you fail to understand is that it's not just you, there's millions like you that don't see or know about the media retractions and lies and that's the problem. You've let the medias bolded, italicized headlines grab you and never followed up to find out if they were factual. The media is the enemy of the people, divide and conquer.
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ANTIFA RIOTERS in Portland have caused an estimated + $2.3 million in damages to federal buildings. Other associated costs are ongoing. I'm not sure if Portland businesses loss over the course of the ANTIFA riots have been currently tabulated, but it was an estimated $23 million (BULLSHIT , MUCH MORE) a little less than a year ago. The exact figure is going to be hard to determine (BULLSHIT) because of the simultaneous losses due to CHINA FLU.
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live from libfuckboifag portland
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You've made some valid comments here. You are so right. But, give me some credit, I also posted that the cause of his death has not yet been resolved.
Seems like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't. One of the reason's I Google stuff as much as I do is exactly because inaccuracies occur when we rely solely on our memories. I don't know how old you are, but many people my age who have paid attention to detail all their lives, have a full house of memories stored in our aging heads.
This is a good example of what can happen when I don't 'Google' but 'shoot from the the hip' instead. I'd stick with expressing my opinion except opinions are a dime a dozen and even when I use the proviso, IMO, it is treated as if I was stating a fact and I get hammered for it.
This is not my pitty party, it is just how things go around here....for almost everyone.
I understand.
But I have been saying for years here that a dishonest media and big tech's content manipulation are our biggest threats, way more than whoever is in the Oval Office at the time.
Google itself is biased. Their algorithm was supposed to be unthinking, uncaring, etc..but they are manipulating what they want you to see. The trouble is, their products are so damn convenient and excellent, so people get hooked. The NYT / Washington post have been exposed and can no longer be trusted (maybe they never could be but we didn't see it).
chaos is correct though, it's not you, it's millions like you. And all it takes is a couple million to be misinformed and you can accomplish insanely powerful things, like..........directly influencing the outcome of a presidential election.
Just think of how many examples their are, right in front of our faces - Russiagate, "very fine people", Biden laptop supression, covid origins, calling troops losers (Atlantic editor admitted crux of his story was likely wrong). Trump was accused of being the guy who would start wars - he kept us out. He was "anti-gay"....had the first gay cabinet member and spoke publicly to countries outlawing homosexuality to change their ways........hates women - had more women in sr. leadership than any.........there are a ton more examples. Now they're clinging to the NY AG stuff.....it doesn't end.
Seek out unbiased journalists - greenwald, tabbi, etc.....these guys were mostly liberal, but had the guts to actually investigate stuff that didn't smell right.
But don't be afraid to express your opinion....just be sure you state it's just that.
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I understand.
But I have been saying for years here that a dishonest media and big tech's content manipulation are our biggest threats, way more than whoever is in the Oval Office at the time.
Google itself is biased. Their algorithm was supposed to be unthinking, uncaring, etc..but they are manipulating what they want you to see. The trouble is, their products are so damn convenient and excellent, so people get hooked. The NYT / Washington post have been exposed and can no longer be trusted (maybe they never could be but we didn't see it).
chaos is correct though, it's not you, it's millions like you. And all it takes is a couple million to be misinformed and you can accomplish insanely powerful things, like..........directly influencing the outcome of a presidential election.
Just think of how many examples their are, right in front of our faces - Russiagate, "very fine people", Biden laptop supression, covid origins, calling troops losers (Atlantic editor admitted crux of his story was likely wrong). Trump was accused of being the guy who would start wars - he kept us out. He was "anti-gay"....had the first gay cabinet member and spoke publicly to countries outlawing homosexuality to change their ways........hates women - had more women in sr. leadership than any.........there are a ton more examples. Now they're clinging to the NY AG stuff.....it doesn't end.
Seek out unbiased journalists - greenwald, tabbi, etc.....these guys were mostly liberal, but had the guts to actually investigate stuff that didn't smell right.
But don't be afraid to express your opinion....just be sure you state it's just that.
Far too logical of a response. Have you been mixing Kaluha in your coffee again ???