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Title: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 06, 2021, 09:04:48 AM
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Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Taffin on June 06, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
After being rushed to the hospital in an ambulance, doctors conducted blood tests and an EKG scan. They determined that Portillo had suffered an NSTEMI heart attack. The minor cardiac episode — which, in her case, was caused by a caffeine overdose — is typically non-life-threatening.
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“I called my mom and she was freaking out more than me,” Portillo said. “I just felt so stupid for doing that dumb challenge and ending up in a hospital bed.”

Medical professionals put her on an intravenous heparin drip to thin her blood, and kept her overnight for observation.  Portillo was released from the hospital the next day without having to undergo surgery or needing to be prescribed any medication. The doctors even gave her the green light to take a vacation to Miami that she’d been planning for the following week. They just told her to steer clear of caffeine.


I know a guy that keeps stabbing table cutlery into his eyes

Ban forks!!
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: GymnJuice on June 06, 2021, 10:24:21 AM
Darwin award nominee.  Let them all kill themselves snorting protein powder and eating tide pods.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: bigkid on June 06, 2021, 02:31:33 PM
I keep seeing this "dry scooping" shit on instagram.  Pre workouts are for idiots anyways.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 06, 2021, 02:43:23 PM
The only pre workout worth a shit is an amphetamine.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Andy Griffin on June 06, 2021, 06:32:31 PM
The only pre workout worth a shit is an amphetamine.

The ECA stack I take promised mind-blowing pumps and steroid-like gains
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 07, 2021, 11:51:47 AM
The ECA stack I take promised mind-blowing pumps and steroid-like gains
   and how'd that work out for you
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 07, 2021, 03:32:11 PM
The ECA stack I take promised mind-blowing pumps and steroid-like gains


The ECA stack is very interesting - metabolically! It was proven in a number of peer reviewed research studies to accelerate fat loss. But now that the evil empire (government) has stopped most ephedrine distribution it's no longer used.


Way back there were a few ephedrine products readily available-  Ultimate Orange and another product called Up Your Gas  ;D   A friend of mine and I were doing a 200 mile bicycle "tour" in Canada, and on the second day I told him I felt pretty crappy and he should ride ahead of me. He refused and said "try this Up Your Gas" herbal pill. I figured what the heck since I had to ride over 100 miles just to get back to our car.


That shit was unreal. As it turned out, I rode the first 30+ miles of the ride at the fastest pace I've ever done. We completed the 100 miles in 4 hrs 20 min, which is fast given the terrain. The bad side effect was my heart rate was off the charts for a few hours afterwards haha. I never did it again.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Andy Griffin on June 07, 2021, 04:48:50 PM

The ECA stack is very interesting - metabolically! It was proven in a number of peer reviewed research studies to accelerate fat loss. But now that the evil empire (government) has stopped most ephedrine distribution it's no longer used.


Way back there were a few ephedrine products readily available-  Ultimate Orange and another product called Up Your Gas  ;D   A friend of mine and I were doing a 200 mile bicycle "tour" in Canada, and on the second day I told him I felt pretty crappy and he should ride ahead of me. He refused and said "try this Up Your Gas" herbal pill. I figured what the heck since I had to ride over 100 miles just to get back to our car.


That shit was unreal. As it turned out, I rode the first 30+ miles of the ride at the fastest pace I've ever done. We completed the 100 miles in 4 hrs 20 min, which is fast given the terrain. The bad side effect was my heart rate was off the charts for a few hours afterwards haha. I never did it again.

I end up just chasing a bronkaid and aspirin with a Monster. 
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Andy Griffin on June 07, 2021, 04:49:27 PM
   and how'd that work out for you

Floyd was one hell of a tattoo artist. 
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Dave D on June 07, 2021, 06:20:42 PM

The ECA stack is very interesting - metabolically! It was proven in a number of peer reviewed research studies to accelerate fat loss. But now that the evil empire (government) has stopped most ephedrine distribution it's no longer used.


Way back there were a few ephedrine products readily available-  Ultimate Orange and another product called Up Your Gas  ;D   A friend of mine and I were doing a 200 mile bicycle "tour" in Canada, and on the second day I told him I felt pretty crappy and he should ride ahead of me. He refused and said "try this Up Your Gas" herbal pill. I figured what the heck since I had to ride over 100 miles just to get back to our car.


That shit was unreal. As it turned out, I rode the first 30+ miles of the ride at the fastest pace I've ever done. We completed the 100 miles in 4 hrs 20 min, which is fast given the terrain. The bad side effect was my heart rate was off the charts for a few hours afterwards haha. I never did it again.

Your racing heart rate is the resting rate for Bhank.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: BIG ACH on June 10, 2021, 01:28:24 AM
I like pre work outs but I definitely can't drink it all at once even with water prefer to sip it throughout my two hour work out
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: bhank on June 10, 2021, 07:14:06 AM
Taking speed has nothing to do with working out. Meth and crack are not preworkout tools you are not getting big on speed about as dumb as thinking Nubain is a recovery tool
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: bhank on June 10, 2021, 07:18:46 AM
Your racing heart rate is the resting rate for Bhank.

I am under 100 this morning which FYI is considered a normal range for an adult

Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 10, 2021, 08:02:57 AM
I am under 100 this morning which FYI is considered a normal range for an adult

98? My resting 58-61
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: balsac69 on June 10, 2021, 10:37:33 AM
I am under 100 this morning which FYI is considered a normal range for an adult

Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: balsac69 on June 10, 2021, 10:48:24 AM
Experts state resting heart rate should be between 50 to 70 bpm
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 10:54:14 AM

thanks for the chart. at near 70 my heart rate has been between 47-54 the last three months oxygen intake 94-96. i've exercised 90-100 minutes a day for the last year or so after some medical problems.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: balsac69 on June 10, 2021, 11:00:49 AM
thanks for the chart. at near 70 my heart rate has been between 47-54 the last three months oxygen intake 94-96. i've exercised 90-100 minutes a day for the last year or so after some medical problems.

Those are great numbers. What was your heart rate before you were exercising 90mins a day for last year?
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: balsac69 on June 10, 2021, 11:04:48 AM
Mine fluctuates between 66 and 75 bpm or so. I don't do any cardio atm wanna start into it get the numbers down a bit
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Matt on June 10, 2021, 11:19:13 AM
I am under 100 this morning which FYI is considered a normal range for an adult

I have one of those small blood pressure machines as well. It's great that those machines are so available now, and portable. I remember my friend's parents who own a local nutrition store paid $5,000 for a large sit-down blood pressure machine. I don't remember those small portable ones being available ten years ago, and I only got mine within the past two years, so I'm not sure exactly when they hit the market.

They are super helpful if you want to take multiple blood pressure tests per day, which is recommended when you take your blood pressure, as readings vary a little from test to test, so the average result from several tests is ideal.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 11:21:19 AM
Those are great numbers. What was your heart rate before you were exercising 90mins a day for last year?
          I don't really know , I had open heart surgery, that's what made me start monitoring it.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 11:28:03 AM
I have one of those small blood pressure machines as well. It's great that those machines are so available now, and portable. I remember my friend's parents who own a local nutrition store paid $5,000 for a large sit-down blood pressure machine. I don't remember those small portable ones being available ten years ago, and I only got mine within the past two years, so I'm not sure exactly when they hit the market.

They are super helpful if you want to take multiple blood pressure tests per day, which is recommended when you take your blood pressure, as readings vary a little from test to test, so the average result from several tests is ideal.


Even the most expensive electronic blood pressure monitors are only approximate and not the gold standard for accuracy. When I was in the hospital a few years ago for a blood infection the nurses used a stethoscope  and a sphygmomanometer. I asked the doctor why don't they use the digital ones by the bedside and he said they are highly inaccurate and they only use them to monitor while the patient is in bed, to alert them of big changes.






Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: ThisisOverload on June 10, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
I was hoping she died.

Nice tits, but that dog face isn't going to do it for me.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 11:34:26 AM
thanks for the chart. at near 70 my heart rate has been between 47-54 the last three months oxygen intake 94-96. i've exercised 90-100 minutes a day for the last year or so after some medical problems.


47-54 is the same resting pulse as a very fit young person - so that's excellent! Mine has been pretty much the same since I was a teen - about 55-60, and I've been bicycle racing from the age of 14!


One of my best bike racing friends had a resting pulse in the low 30's - it was insane! We both did equally well in events so it really meant little what our resting pulse rates were.


Probably the most important heart rate measurement is your heart rate recovery time- how long it takes for the pulse to drop after a hard effort. That's often used on treadmill tests for heart function.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Taffin on June 10, 2021, 11:39:38 AM
I was hoping she died.

Nice tits, but that dog face isn't going to do it for me.

Brutal
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Taffin on June 10, 2021, 11:40:17 AM
I was hoping she died.

Nice tits, but that dog face isn't going to do it for me.

But funny  ;D
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 11:40:19 AM
Taking speed has nothing to do with working out. Meth and crack are not preworkout tools you are not getting big on speed about as dumb as thinking Nubain is a recovery tool


Actually, taking methamphetamine as a pre-workout substance was popular many years ago. And it did work:


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/9561044_Enhancement_of_human_performance_by_caffeine_and_the_amphetamines
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 11:52:01 AM

47-54 is the same resting pulse as a very fit young person - so that's excellent! Mine has been pretty much the same since I was a teen - about 55-60, and I've been bicycle racing from the age of 14!


One of my best bike racing friends had a resting pulse in the low 30's - it was insane! We both did equally well in events so it really meant little what our resting pulse rates were.


Probably the most important heart rate measurement is your heart rate recovery time- how long it takes for the pulse to drop after a hard effort. That's often used on treadmill tests for heart function.
  I usually take it up to 105-120 range at it's highest, bike has a grip monitor on it.. when I'm done with the last circuit I unplug the bike turn off the music and go up two flights of steps, by then the rate has already dropped to low 90's. ???
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 12:07:53 PM
  I usually take it up to 105-120 range at it's highest, bike has a grip monitor on it.. when I'm done with the last circuit I unplug the bike turn off the music and go up two flights of steps, by then the rate has already dropped to low 90's. ???


Next time measure how quickly it goes from, say 120, to a point it flattens out (might be your resting pulse or an elevated but stable pulse). That's how I know my training is working and if I'm fit. Early season or after sickness it takes me a while to recover my pulse after hard efforts. In season, like now, it recovers very fast. So it's a very good way to monitor how you are adapting.


To give an example, on this past Tuesday on a bicycle training ride with a fast group my pulse was hovering between 160-170 the whole time. At one point we stopped to let riders catch back on and my pulse went from the 160's to the low 100's in less than a minute. So that tells me my fitness is good. Early season it might take twice as long to do the same thing. All this data came from my Garmin monitor after I downloaded it post ride.


My max pulse measured last year was 193. Riding at at average of 165 bpm puts me at 85% MHR and that is where I feel the best in training.


https://www.heart-health-guide.com/recovery-heart-rate.html (https://www.heart-health-guide.com/recovery-heart-rate.html)
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 10, 2021, 12:21:24 PM

Next time measure how quickly it goes from, say 120, to a point it flattens out (might be your resting pulse or an elevated but stable pulse). That's how I know my training is working and if I'm fit. Early season or after sickness it takes me a while to recover my pulse after hard efforts. In season, like now, it recovers very fast. So it's a very good way to monitor how you are adapting.


To give an example, on this past Tuesday on a bicycle training ride with a fast group my pulse was hovering between 160-170 the whole time. At one point we stopped to let riders catch back on and my pulse went from the 160's to the low 100's in less than a minute. So that tells me my fitness is good. Early season it might take twice as long to do the same thing. All this data came from my Garmin monitor after I downloaded it post ride.


My max pulse measured last year was 193. Riding at at average of 165 bpm puts me at 85% MHR and that is where I feel the best in training.


https://www.heart-health-guide.com/recovery-heart-rate.html (https://www.heart-health-guide.com/recovery-heart-rate.html)
   thanks for the info. if i got my heart up that high it would probably explode. ;D
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: bhank on June 10, 2021, 12:48:15 PM

Actually, taking methamphetamine as a pre-workout substance was popular many years ago. And it did work:


https://www.researchgate.net/publication/9561044_Enhancement_of_human_performance_by_caffeine_and_the_amphetamines

There is a difference between being able to work yourself to death one workout and actually enhancing your future performance through gains. I would argue any temp energy gain is offset by the detrimental effects on recovery
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 12:48:59 PM
   thanks for the info. if i got my heart up that high it would probably explode. ;D


lol - it might! It's completely genetic. Another of my racing friends has a max pulse of about 155 and yet he is a far stronger rider than I am.


It appears the key heart rate measurement is your " Heart Rate Reserve" or HRR. That's just your maximum pulse minus your resting. Mine would be  a maximum of 193-55 = 138. I can guarantee I'm not going to improve on that number anymore! But it is a good benchmark for cardio fitness and has been correlated with heart attacks in younger men (the lower the HRR, the higher chance of heart trouble) . As you get older it still is important but other factors weigh in too.


https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext/2002/12000/Heart_rate_reserve_as_a_predictor_of.3.aspx (https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext/2002/12000/Heart_rate_reserve_as_a_predictor_of.3.aspx)
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: bhank on June 10, 2021, 12:56:03 PM
I have not exercised today but I just woke up from an intense 4 hour afternoon nap sitting at 101bpm think I am ready to swim some laps
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: balsac69 on June 10, 2021, 01:24:17 PM
I have not exercised today but I just woke up from an intense 4 hour afternoon nap sitting at 101bpm think I am ready to swim some laps

Something def not right. You ever gone for an echocardiogram heart scan or ecg to check for left ventricular hypertrophy?
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 10, 2021, 01:27:57 PM
There is a difference between being able to work yourself to death one workout and actually enhancing your future performance through gains. I would argue any temp energy gain is offset by the detrimental effects on recovery


Translation: You didn't read the paper, lol.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Dave D on June 10, 2021, 01:32:41 PM
I have not exercised today but I just woke up from an intense 4 hour afternoon nap sitting at 101bpm think I am ready to swim some laps

Bhank, as a new poster,  you're doing a great job.

I'd love to see how people respond to you on social media.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: funk51 on June 11, 2021, 12:55:02 PM

lol - it might! It's completely genetic. Another of my racing friends has a max pulse of about 155 and yet he is a far stronger rider than I am.


It appears the key heart rate measurement is your " Heart Rate Reserve" or HRR. That's just your maximum pulse minus your resting. Mine would be  a maximum of 193-55 = 138. I can guarantee I'm not going to improve on that number anymore! But it is a good benchmark for cardio fitness and has been correlated with heart attacks in younger men (the lower the HRR, the higher chance of heart trouble) . As you get older it still is important but other factors weigh in too.


https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext/2002/12000/Heart_rate_reserve_as_a_predictor_of.3.aspx (https://journals.lww.com/acsm-msse/Fulltext/2002/12000/Heart_rate_reserve_as_a_predictor_of.3.aspx)
    I tried what you said start was 95-51 resting  after 15 minutes.  i got it up to 121 limped up the two flights of steps to oximeter it was 95-108 within one minute I was at 95 over 74. not really sure what any of it means. but my top to bottom differential was only  70 pretty pathetic to your range.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: Hypertrophy on June 11, 2021, 02:05:59 PM
    I tried what you said start was 95-51 resting  after 15 minutes.  i got it up to 121 limped up the two flights of steps to oximeter it was 95-108 within one minute I was at 95 over 74. not really sure what any of it means. but my top to bottom differential was only  70 pretty pathetic to your range.


It's all relative to your health Funk. The easiest way to keep track is to see how much your pulse drops in  1 min after a few minutes of  intense (or moderately intense) exercise. If after a few weeks of doing a routine your pulse drop is the same, you might want to add a rest day or two into your schedule. Exercise is like medicine- there is the right dose and there definitely is the possibility of overdosing.


I recommend to anybody who wants to gain cardio fitness to just do something continuous for 20-30 min, 3 days a week. But the key is to alternate what you do on each of those days. For example, day 1 you might want to do 1  min fast, 4 minute slow intervals, for 20 min. The next workout you might want to do 4 min moderate, 1 min easy intervals. Another workout might be just going very easy for 20 min. 


An interval doesn't have to be and shouldn't be flat out, Just challenge yourself moderately. You want to feel challenged, not destroyed. If on any day you don't feel up to the workout, skip that day and do it the next.


After a few weeks you will start to see your pulse rate recovery over 1 min improve a lot.


A guy I used to ride with got a silver medal in the LA Olympic cycling road race. He taught me a lot- including not to go hard too often!
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: pamith on June 12, 2021, 01:27:32 PM
Dumb broad
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: a_pupil on June 12, 2021, 01:44:52 PM
I never got the hype for pre-workouts.

Ronnie coleman yeps, yeah buddies and light weights are all a true thong warrior needs.
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: prowlermaniac on June 13, 2021, 04:42:41 AM
I have not exercised today but I just woke up from an intense 4 hour afternoon nap sitting at 101bpm think I am ready to swim some laps

You need to go to a cardiologist man, that is not normal.  Mine in 45-50 BPM.  It’s wild to see someone over 100 and not be an obese fuck
Title: Re: Redcon 1 in Trouble?
Post by: GymnJuice on June 13, 2021, 04:47:15 AM
You need to go to a cardiologist man, that is not normal.  Mine in 45-50 BPM.  It’s wild to see someone over 100 and not be an obese fuck

It's because he has a superhuman metabolism and takes a special 'all-natural' hemp supplement  ::)