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How Can You Tell if Someone Is On Steroids?
Bhank-a-Dank sound-a-like (bolded below)...
You want to know how to identify likely drug users so they can’t screw up your progress with bad advice, or your expectations and standards with their outstanding physiques.
You’re probably on social media, so you know what I’m talking about.
Around every corner is another influencer who’s willing to subject his body to a regular regimen of dangerous chemicals to get followers to peddle products and services to.
“LOOK AT ME!” they cry. “LOOK AT MY ABS AND BICEPS AND SHIT! DON’T YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE THIS? FUCK YEAH YOU DO! JUST CLICK THE LINK IN MY BIO TO PAY ME $97.97 IN 79 EASY HOURLY INSTALLMENTS AND I WILL SHOW YOU HOW!!!!!”
This isn’t just dishonest; it’s harmful.
First, drug users who’ve had little experience or results as drug-free lifters often give bad advice to natural weightlifters.
With the right steroids, you can get a lot wrong in the kitchen and gym and still build an extraordinary body.
For example, you can train more frequently and intensely, recover wonderfully, and pay less attention to your diet . . . and stay absolutely shredded the entire time.
Remember the bodybuilder who used steroids to gain 15 pounds of muscle in a year while staying at 8.5% body fat?
He reported eating between 2,300 and 3,600 calories per day throughout the year, but didn’t meticulously track his calories and macros, so it’s hard to know how much he actually ate.
Many people on gear don’t know or care about the monumental advantages they enjoy, though, so when they tell others to eat and train as they do, these people get nowhere near the same results.
Many then assume they just don’t have the genetics for a great physique, and they either give up, relegate themselves to mediocrity, or, ironically, turn to steroids.
A few “enhanced” trainers and coaches out there understand this and know how to change routines and diets for natural weightlifters, but they’re rare. And even if a “fake natty” gives good advice and rationalizes that this “noble end” justifies the means, it’s still immoral to lie about using drugs to get a body that wins people’s attention, trust, and business.
Read: The “Good” and “Bad” Reasons to Take Steroids
Second, many steroid users create false expectations that will lead to disappointment and failure for others. This is especially true of those who say anyone can get huge and shredded with enough hard work and #dedication.
We natural weightlifters can look great, but no matter what we do, we will never, ever look like a lot of what we see on Instagram. We can get big, lean, and strong, but there’s a level of muscularity, hardness, leanness, dryness, and fullness that no amount of natural bodybuilding can achieve.
So, for all of these reasons, it’s worth learning how to identify steroid users.
The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness.
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How Can You Tell if Someone Is On Steroids?
Bhank-a-Dank sound-a-like (bolded below)...
You want to know how to identify likely drug users so they can’t screw up your progress with bad advice, or your expectations and standards with their outstanding physiques.
You’re probably on social media, so you know what I’m talking about.
Around every corner is another influencer who’s willing to subject his body to a regular regimen of dangerous chemicals to get followers to peddle products and services to.
“LOOK AT ME!” they cry. “LOOK AT MY ABS AND BICEPS AND SHIT! DON’T YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE THIS? FUCK YEAH YOU DO! JUST CLICK THE LINK IN MY BIO TO PAY ME $97.97 IN 79 EASY HOURLY INSTALLMENTS AND I WILL SHOW YOU HOW!!!!!”
This isn’t just dishonest; it’s harmful.
First, drug users who’ve had little experience or results as drug-free lifters often give bad advice to natural weightlifters.
With the right steroids, you can get a lot wrong in the kitchen and gym and still build an extraordinary body.
For example, you can train more frequently and intensely, recover wonderfully, and pay less attention to your diet . . . and stay absolutely shredded the entire time.
Remember the bodybuilder who used steroids to gain 15 pounds of muscle in a year while staying at 8.5% body fat?
He reported eating between 2,300 and 3,600 calories per day throughout the year, but didn’t meticulously track his calories and macros, so it’s hard to know how much he actually ate.
Many people on gear don’t know or care about the monumental advantages they enjoy, though, so when they tell others to eat and train as they do, these people get nowhere near the same results.
Many then assume they just don’t have the genetics for a great physique, and they either give up, relegate themselves to mediocrity, or, ironically, turn to steroids.
A few “enhanced” trainers and coaches out there understand this and know how to change routines and diets for natural weightlifters, but they’re rare. And even if a “fake natty” gives good advice and rationalizes that this “noble end” justifies the means, it’s still immoral to lie about using drugs to get a body that wins people’s attention, trust, and business.
Read: The “Good” and “Bad” Reasons to Take Steroids
Second, many steroid users create false expectations that will lead to disappointment and failure for others. This is especially true of those who say anyone can get huge and shredded with enough hard work and #dedication.
We natural weightlifters can look great, but no matter what we do, we will never, ever look like a lot of what we see on Instagram. We can get big, lean, and strong, but there’s a level of muscularity, hardness, leanness, dryness, and fullness that no amount of natural bodybuilding can achieve.
So, for all of these reasons, it’s worth learning how to identify steroid users.
The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness.
Matt….you are giving yourself away and outing your gimmick account.
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That was adressed in the Mike O'Hearn thread.
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"The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness."
So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age. Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
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Also just fyi if your FFMI is under 25 which I assume it is as you claim natural and state all naturals are under 25 then guess what that means you don't even lift "Body-buildah" lol gtfo more like a child. You think everyone has big fake watery muscles. I don't think you even lift not with an FFMI under 25
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"The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness."
So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age. Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
All that said, explain the context of your picture.
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All that said, explain the context of your picture.
Stop bitching, we needed at least one more pic of Bhanks for motivational purposes. ;D
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Also just fyi if your FFMI is under 25 which I assume it is as you claim natural and state all naturals are under 25 then guess what that means you don't even lift "Body-buildah" lol gtfo more like a child. You think everyone has big fake watery muscles. I don't think you even lift not with an FFMI under 25
They do Bhanks, learn some science... (Calm down on the Tren temper, your blood pressure will rise)...
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They usually look the opposite of Chaos. Masculine, strong, and have a few muscles to show for it.
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"The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness."
So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age. Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
Bhanks, I posted an article I didnt even read.
Calm down my friend. ;)
Ive already told you many times you have a great physique.
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They do Bhanks, learn some science... (Calm down on the Tren temper, your blood pressure will rise)...
Learn some science reality check here you don't even lift your ffmi is under 25??? The fuck do you name yourself body-buildah and try to explain how muscles work to me????? I also do not use Tren you don't know shit about anything you don't even lift but want to argue the science behind lifting????
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Ask to check their ass for any lumps or hard spots (no homo)
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Ask to check their ass for any lumps or hard spots (no homo)
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Learn some science reality check here you don't even lift your ffmi is under 25??? The fuck do you name yourself body-buildah and try to explain how muscles work to me????? I also do not use Tren you don't know shit about anything you don't even lift but want to argue the science behind lifting????
I think the only one I see arguing is you vs. you. Calm down round-eye... LOL
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Don’t forget high blood pressure is also a tell tale sign or steroid abuse
Mine is in the ideal range 117/76 right now the ideal range not elevated at all which would seem to imply I am a clean athlete
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I think the only one I see arguing is you vs. you. Calm down round-eye... LOL
You mentioned me in the post and said it sounded like me explain my perfect blood pressure then?? You know what causes a raise in blood pressure water retention and you claim in the other thread today I have big fake watery muscles. If I am on so much steroids and holding so much water how come my blood pressure is perfect explain that??? That is right you can't because you don't know shit
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110 BPM? hopelly this isn't at rest because you're a ticking bomb.. anyway who would take their blood pressure stat after cardio or training right?
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You mentioned me in the post and said it sounded like me explain my perfect blood pressure then?? You know what causes a raise in blood pressure water retention and you claim in the other thread today I have big fake watery muscles. If I am on so much steroids and holding so much water how come my blood pressure is perfect explain that??? That is right you can't because you don't know shit
Deep Breath Brian, count to ten...
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So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age. Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
(https://media0.giphy.com/media/ZqlvCTNHpqrio/giphy.webp?cid=6c09b952164c146990e8c0ed8cbc07927fa9c5925253f481&rid=giphy.webp&ct=g)
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110 BPM? hopelly this isn't at rest because you're a ticking bomb.. anyway who would take their blood pressure stat after cardio or training right?
He's also passing blood...
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Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
Definitely, 3 chicken brests in Asia = 1 c.b. in western countries !.
Very soon chook will be larger than Emu !.
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Easiest way to tell, they say they’re natural.
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They need to pass the "Ohearn Nut Test"... Or nutless...
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Eat supermarket chicken brests & get juice for free !
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Eat supermarket chicken brests & get juice for free !
I hope Vince starts a thread on how to get steroid gains without actually using steroids!
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I hope Vince starts a thread on how to get steroid gains without actually using steroids!
Or how to look 9 months pregnant.
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Or how to look 9 months pregnant.
Why would we read a thread you’ve started on fitness?
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Why would we read a thread you’ve started on fitness?
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"The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness."
So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age.Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
You were making excuses on Saquon Barkley having everything handed to him being a pro athlete. You have 20 years of experience and lifting on him, more gear usage than he does, you should be 10x better than him since your main focus is bbing
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You were making excuses on Saquon Barkley having everything handed to him being a pro athlete. You have 20 years of experience and lifting on him, more gear usage than he does, you should be 10x better than him since your main focus is bbing
When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
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When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
Can you run 4.4’s or lower in the 40? 41 inch vertical or higher?
Quite a specimen we have here on getbig, it’s an honor
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When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
Didn’t you say no one cares about 20 years ago, it’s what you are doing today? Why do you have so many double standards?
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When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
all those guys in the NFL are lucky you never showed up! You would’ve destroyed them easily! Look at this physical specimen here! The coach would’ve had you on offense and defense for sure!
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When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
how many touchdowns did you score for polk high again?
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Usually they introduce themselves and add ..."IFBB Pro" after their name. That and they continuously point at whomever is next to them and with the other hand, give the "IFBB Pro Thumbs up, Bums up" sign.
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110 BPM? hopelly this isn't at rest because you're a ticking bomb.. anyway who would take their blood pressure stat after cardio or training right?
110 beats per minute is around the same BPM as a Tour de France rider.
Really fucking playing with fire...
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Is checking your pulse a good indicater of beats per minute?
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Can you run 4.4’s or lower in the 40? 41 inch vertical or higher?
Quite a specimen we have here on getbig, it’s an honor
No again I was only destroying them on that one test and when I say destroy I was beating much larger nfl players o let a couple guys could get more than me each year
I am almost as big now but have had some injuries
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"The biggest red flags are . . .
They have a normalized fat-free max index of 25 or more.
They’re very big, very lean, and very strong.
They suddenly got way stronger.
They have a massive upper chest, shoulders, and traps.
They’re shredded, dry, and full, with amazing muscle separation.
They stay extremely lean, full, and dry year round.
They have excellent overall development and proportions.
They have bad acne and male pattern baldness."
So basically if they look decent they are on steroids? I don't have any acne fyi. My FFMI is 29 and I do actually have lats. Notice no acne on my back. My dad never lifted a weight and had less hair than me at my age. Stop making excuses and start training harder and eating better. Also I have never tried to sell anyone anything and never will ask anyone for a dime. You also contradict yourself as you were just saying users had fake muscles full of water now they are lean and dry year round which is it???
Also no one is natural your meat your water it is all full of hormones. But if you are so natural how do you know steroids do everything you think they do. I guarantee you could start taking everything and in 6 months look like the same dogshit you do today. There is no magic pill
You look less like a cave man with the hat :D
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When I was his age I could get 30 reps worh 225 I was absolutely destroying guys combine numbers at about the same weight I am now only guys who were getting more were offensive lineman
Dude you look great but are no where near Barkley’s numbers. I’m gonna need a video of a 500lb squat for 5 reps and 405 power clean. Please no X-ray pics why you can’t bottom line is you can’t.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/19/saquon-barkley-box-squats-new-york-giants-running-back/
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"How can you tell if someone is on steroids?"
Forget about stats and measurements. There is an unmistakable look that comes along with androgens.
Turns out teaching what this look looks like is hard, otherwise there wouldn't be all these debates all the time. Someone can have absolutely shitty measurements and stats and still show signs of androgen use.
There are many on this forum, most of them longtime fans but who never used themselves, who just can't understand this concept. Which is why you have these ridiculous threads discussing O'Hearn or whatever other Clown.
bhank is very familiar with drugs and not just testosterone.
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Dude you look great but are no where near Barkley’s numbers. I’m gonna need a video of a 500lb squat for 5 reps and 405 power clean. Please no X-ray pics why you can’t bottom line is you can’t.
https://www.tmz.com/2020/03/19/saquon-barkley-box-squats-new-york-giants-running-back/
I am nowhere near his leg numbers that is true however yes absolutely I have beat his 225 combine bench numbers I used to warm up with 20-25 reps on 225 every week before starting my chest workout. I have done 30
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how many touchdowns did you score for polk high again?
4 touchdowns in a single game they still talk about it
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"How can you tell if someone is on steroids?"
Forget about stats and measurements. There is an unmistakable look that comes along with androgens.
Turns out teaching what this look looks like is hard, otherwise there wouldn't be all these debates all the time. Someone can have absolutely shitty measurements and stats and still show signs of androgen use.
There are many on this forum, most of them longtime fans but who never used themselves, who just can't understand this concept. Which is why you have these ridiculous threads discussing O'Hearn or whatever other Clown.
bhank is very familiar with drugs and not just testosterone.
One mans drug is another mans naturally occurring bioidentical protein based peptide
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most of the bodybuilders take anabolics once in a career to become huge, after that, in next competition they don't even take anabolics during bulking, main use of steroid comes during cutting cycle for a competition when they have to preserve lean muscle on a calorie deficit diet
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most of the bodybuilders take anabolics once in a career to become huge, after that, in next competition they don't even take anabolics during bulking, main use of steroid comes during cutting cycle for a competition when they have to preserve lean muscle on a calorie deficit diet
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most of the bodybuilders take anabolics once in a career to become huge[/b], after that, in next competition they don't even take anabolics during bulking, main use of steroid comes during cutting cycle for a competition when they have to preserve lean muscle on a calorie deficit diet
Uhmm, No...
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;D
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most of the bodybuilders take anabolics once in a career to become huge, after that, in next competition they don't even take anabolics during bulking, main use of steroid comes during cutting cycle for a competition when they have to preserve lean muscle on a calorie deficit diet
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Yup, Cutler only did one cycle to become huge, and went on to win 3-4 Mr. O titles... ::)
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Yup, Cutler only did one cycle to become huge, and went on to win 3-4 Mr. O titles... ::)
With the help of eggs.
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With the help of eggs.
Not just eggs but duck eggs !!
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Not just eggs but duck eggs !!
Of course!
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most of the bodybuilders take anabolics once in a career to become huge, after that, in next competition they don't even take anabolics during bulking, main use of steroid comes during cutting cycle for a competition when they have to preserve lean muscle on a calorie deficit diet
;D