Getbig.com: American Bodybuilding, Fitness and Figure
Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Body-Buildah on July 26, 2021, 07:20:51 AM
-
From More Mates, More Dates.
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/highest-steroid-dosages-used-by-ifbb-pros-in-the-90s/
--
Dorian Yates
Dorian Yates stated he used more drugs in his offseason as opposed to pre-contest.
He concluded that it made the most sense to use the most drugs when he's trying in a calorie surplus trying to gain muscle.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Dorian Yates' steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone – 1000 mg per week
Deca (Nandrolone Decanoate) – 500 mg per week
Dianabol (Dbol) – 40 to 50 mg per day
GH – 2 to 4 IU per day
As far as insulin, Dorian claimed insulin was part of his protocol later in his career.
However, he saw the effects it had on his body composition as a net negative, as he sacrificed dry grainy detail in the muscle for a smoother more bloated look that came with the size gained with insulin.
Yeah Buddy
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Ronnie Coleman's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testex (concentration of 250 mg/mL) – 750 mg per week split into one 250 mg injection three times per week
Primobolan (concentration of 100 mg/mL) – 300 mg per week split into one 100 mg injection three times per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 200 mg per week (unclear if he used more than 200 mg per week or not)
Testosterone Heptylate (concentration of 250 mg/mL) – 500 mg per week split into one 250 mg injection twice per week
Primobolan, Dbol or Anadrol tablets – Roughly 25-100 mg per day depending on the oral steroid chosen
Human Growth Hormone (HGH) – 4 IU per day
Humulin R Insulin – 30 IU split into two 15 IU injections only for the carb up phase before a competition
Lee Priest
This is the one that everyone thinks is bullshit because of how conservative his usage was.
Notably, Lee Priest was one of the only top IFBB pros in the 90s (if not the only) to do a completely transparent interview during the prime of his career where the video could severely impact his placements.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Lee Priest's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Injectable Stanozolol (Winstrol) – 200 mg per week split into two 100 mg injections every three days
Primobolan – 200 mg per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 200 mg per week
Anadrol tablets – 50 mg per day
Human Growth Hormone (HGH) – 2 IU per day
Dillet
Paul's was a lot more detailed.
He had offseason dosages, contest prep dosages, and he even laid out his diet macros which was really interesting.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Paul Dillet's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Offseason Cycle
Testosterone Cypionate – 400-600 mg per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 400-600 mg per week
Anadrol – 50-100 mg per day
Contest Prep Cycle
Testosterone Propionate – 500-600 mg per week
Primobolan – 500-600 mg per week
Anadrol – 50-100 mg per day
GH (growth hormone) – 9 IUs per day
Proviron – 4-5 pills per day
Cytomel – Titrating up to 100 mcg per day
Paul Dillet's Macros Pre-contest
Calories – 4000 calories per day
Protein – 450-600 grams per day
Carbs – 100-200 grams per day
Fats – 75-100 grams per day
Aaron Baker
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Aaron Baker's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone Cypionate – 400 mg per week
Primobolan – 100-200 mg per week
Anadrol – 50 mg per day
Parabolan – Dosage was not specified
Winstrol, Dianabol, Anavar, Halotestin – Reserved for specific phases pre-contest or during mass gaining phases. Dosages were not specified.
Growth Hormone – 2 IUs/day, every other day, for 10-12 weeks, pre-contest only
Insulin – 10 IUs administered twice a day, pre-contest only
Dennis Newman
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Dennis Newman's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone Cypionate – 200 mg twice a week = 400 mg/week
Sustanon – 250 mg twice a week = 500 mg/week
Testosterone Enanthate – 200 mg twice a week = 400 mg/week
Anavar – 25-30 mg a day
Parabolan – Two 76 mg Parabolan amps per week = 152 mg/week
Primobolan – 1 shot every 3 days = 200 mg/week
Winstrol – 50 mg a day = 350 mg/week
Halotestin – Used pre-contest, the dosage was not disclosed. My educated guess is that he probably used between 20-40 mg per day for the last 2-3 weeks of his contest prep.
Growth Hormone – Tried it twice with a dosage as high as 4 IU per day
Insulin – Tried a couple IU as an experiment but didn't want to increase the dosage
Keep in mind, Dennis Newman had a very short-lived career, and this may not be indicative of what he would have gone on to use had his career not been cut short.
Chris Cormier
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Chris Cormier's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Equipoise – 300 mg/week
Primobolan – 400 mg/week
Growth Hormone – 4-9IUs/day
Testosterone – 800 mg/week
Winstrol – 300 to 450 mg/week
Halotestin – 30 to 40mg/day
Insulin – Three or four doses of 12 to 15 IUs/day
Teslac – 50 to 200 mg/day
-
Strange how Dillet was so detailed with drug use but trained so haphazardly and didn't bother to learn to pose.
-
That's also not the whole stack. It's common knowledge that Dillet took up to 20 Clen pills per day.
-
Strange how Dillet was so detailed with drug use but trained so haphazardly and didn't bother to learn to pose.
How the drugs are so often the “intensity” of a weight-trainer’s “routine” has always been a major turn-off for me.
In Fortress’s world, training has always been the beginning, middle and end.
Eat with a purpose and train like a machine.
Then again, I’m a drug-free lifter. Sadly, also the reason I’ll never be in the “arena” with the Big Names.
But what I can do I can do.
-
Strange how Dillet was so detailed with drug use but trained so haphazardly and didn't bother to learn to pose.
Lee Priest said he spent time with Dillet and Dillet hated doing shots and would miss them regularly
-
Lee Priest said he spent time with Dillet and Dillet hated doing shots and would miss them regularly
[/quote
Hated shooting Winstrol. I know what he means, though I got frustrated a couple of times I didn't quite lose my temper but I've seen syringes flying against walls after a few unsuccessful tries. Only juicers know what I'm talking about :D
-
How the drugs are so often the “intensity” of a weight-trainer’s “routine” has always been a major turn-off for me.
In Fortress’s world, training has always been the beginning, middle and end.
Eat with a purpose and train like a machine.
Then again, I’m a drug-free lifter. Sadly, also the reason I’ll never be in the “arena” with the Big Names.
But what I can do I can do.
You don't drink coffee stop your bullshit no one is more righteous than anyone else. What someone else takes or doesn't take is not really relevant to you. You need to learn your body
-
You don't drink coffee stop your bullshit no one is more righteous than anyone else
Ridiculous analogy !!
-
Ridiculous analogy !!
Try not to stumble off your high horse and spill the booze
-
Try not to stumble off your high horse and spill the booze
Haven`t had a drink in several decades, can you say the same?
-
Try not to stumble off your high horse and spill the booze
HIGH HORSE???
Pot meet kettle!!
-
Newman and Cormier seem the most realistic.
-
Haven`t had a drink in several decades, can you say the same?
I average about 2-3 mixed drinks a month as I sometimes have one on date night. But no other than that I do not drink at all
-
Newman and Cormier seen the most realistic.
They are all on a shit ton of gear all of those list whether accurate or not are a shit ton of gear
-
I average about 2-3 mixed drinks a month as I sometimes have one on date night. But no other than that I do not drink at all
Then you DO drink stupid.
-
They are all on a shit ton of gear all of those list whether accurate or not are a shit ton of gear
So are you.
-
You don't drink coffee stop your bullshit no one is more righteous than anyone else. What someone else takes or doesn't take is not really relevant to you. You need to learn your body
You miss the sentiment in my post.
Yes, I do drink coffee. No bones in admitting this.
But surely you get my (very important) point.
So, no, I’m NOT better than anyone else, in a general way. What I AM saying is, I value, prioritize and focus on the actual mechanics of weight training. It is not only the means, but the be-all, end-all, of my passion.
Others are of their own minds, motivations and priorities.
I merely am commenting with a thought I’d had in reaction to reading another’s post.
Doing so should not signal to another anything beyond contribution to a message board that lives only with, well, “conversing” and offering something of the member.
-
Complete bullshit. ;D
There is a multiplier missing somewhere in these calculations.
-
You missed the sentiment in my post.
Yes, I do drink coffee. No bones in admitting this.
But surely you get my (very important) point.
So, no, I’m NOT better than anyone else, in a general way. What I AM saying is, I value, prioritize and focus on the actual mechanics of weight training. It is not only the means, but the be-all, end-all of my passion.
Others are of their own minds, motivations and priorities.
I merely am commenting with a thought I’d had in reaction to reading another’s post.
Doing so should not signal to another anything beyond contribution to a message board that lives only with, well, “conversing” and offering something of the member.
He wont comprehend that.
-
Anadrol 50 was a sick powerful oral. Hearing they took just one or two sounds legit. Dianabol when is was real was powerful but not quite Anadrol powerful. When I hear guys saying they use 5 Anadrol and 10 dianabol I know they are taking black market counterfeits. Guys taking 3 Anadrol got yellow eyes and got sick.
-
Anadrol 50 was a sick powerful oral. Hearing they took just one or two sounds legit. Dianabol when is was real was powerful but not quite Anadrol powerful. When I hear guys saying they use 5 Anadrol and 10 dianabol I know they are taking black market counterfeits. Guys taking 3 Anadrol got yellow eyes and got sick.
I’ve witnessed guys take one real A-50 tab a day and add dramatic poundage to their core lifts.
Like, Holy shit-level.
-
You miss the sentiment in my post.
Yes, I do drink coffee. No bones in admitting this.
But surely you get my (very important) point.
So, no, I’m NOT better than anyone else, in a general way. What I AM saying is, I value, prioritize and focus on the actual mechanics of weight training. It is not only the means, but the be-all, end-all, of my passion.
Others are of their own minds, motivations and priorities.
I merely am commenting with a thought I’d had in reaction to reading another’s post.
Doing so should not signal to another anything beyond contribution to a message board that lives only with, well, “conversing” and offering something of the member.
I get what he is saying. He is again trying to imply he values and prioritizes the actual mechanics of weight lifting as if others somehow just throw weights around? First thing someone will tell you that looks like shit is how they train clean and focus on athletic performance and health. Then they will try and tell you they can do more burpees and handstand pushups than the big buff jacked guys who dont know anything because they are all supposedly on drugs. Bullshit heard it too many times
-
Thats the trouble with bodybuilding no disrespect, those who don't have genetics just cannot accept that those who do don't need that much, thats a hell of a lot of gear, the IUs on the HGH are a bit light but they are quoting humatrope, quality pharma grade but still light especially doz he was 4-6iu , Aaron believable 2iu he was always strapped cashwise,it went higher once Venice started getting the Jin kits in,later 90s but they just water logged guys. They would mix and shoot the whole 10u,or a 100u kit every ten days. Gear wasn't chinese back then either, it pharma grade you felt every ml unlike, todays high dose crap.
Old timer is right on the money as well most of the guys all did the anadrol, it was the game changer in that day, single most powerful steroid in my opinion also the most toxic, but if you could get your water right it made you big full and hard, was the single biggest contributor to Dillet lack of eating it just killed his appetite. Certainly Yates and Levrone were big fans along with many more, crashed your HDL to zero though, harden your look and your arteries same time. You would cycle it in as you dropped your Test pre contest and water if it worked for you, off season was more Dbol it didnt kill the appetite as much.
Plenty will believe you need more but they didnt, and you don't if your not pro level on half, Bodybuilding is not for you.
-
Guys taking 3 Anadrol got yellow eyes and got sick.
Complete and utter nonsense.
Where did you read this? ;D
There isn't an anabolic on this planet that could do that. Not even Halo.
100mg of Drol is plenty for anyone, it swells you up nicely, but it is not toxic on the liver. That is a huge bro science misconception.
Alcohol is over 100 times more toxic on the liver than oral steroids.
Don't even mention Tylenol.
-
I took one Pharma Grade Anadrol 50 a day in a cycle I did..........got much thicker and stronger than hell.
-
If HGH "works", why Lee Priest didn't grow up for another 5 inches ;D
Dwarf stays dwarf !.
-
That's also not the whole stack. It's common knowledge that Dillet took up to 20 Clen pills per day.
Yeah..possibly more. He used so much he had a condition which he gasped mud sentence..but he did this is one of the road to the olympias
-
X's all these numbers by 3-4 then u will have the truth
-
Thats the trouble with bodybuilding no disrespect, those who don't have genetics just cannot accept that those who do don't need that much, thats a hell of a lot of gear, the IUs on the HGH are a bit light but they are quoting humatrope, quality pharma grade but still light especially doz he was 4-6iu , Aaron believable 2iu he was always strapped cashwise,it went higher once Venice started getting the Jin kits in,later 90s but they just water logged guys. They would mix and shoot the whole 10u,or a 100u kit every ten days. Gear wasn't chinese back then either, it pharma grade you felt every ml unlike, todays high dose crap.
Old timer is right on the money as well most of the guys all did the anadrol, it was the game changer in that day, single most powerful steroid in my opinion also the most toxic, but if you could get your water right it made you big full and hard, was the single biggest contributor to Dillet lack of eating it just killed his appetite. Certainly Yates and Levrone were big fans along with many more, crashed your HDL to zero though, harden your look and your arteries same time. You would cycle it in as you dropped your Test pre contest and water if it worked for you, off season was more Dbol it didnt kill the appetite as much.
Plenty will believe you need more but they didnt, and you don't if your not pro level on half, Bodybuilding is not for you.
100% TRUTH. When guys talk of “genetics” they mean the genetic response to steroids. Of course shape and all determine how fat you can go. But I knew right away - 200mg cyp / week - that it changed me. I competed for some years and won some and didn’t do diet right for others - but I was absolutely never on even 1/2 or what guys would “tell me I was doing”. I won once using just test and anadrol not even a total of a gram a week. But had this “guru” inform me that he knew I used Tren for the graininess.???? I never argued…. My water drop were KISS
Gallon or so beginning of the week even up to Thursday then nothing after noon. If before bed I felt I needed it I would use 1/2 a dyazide the. Usually wake to pee at 3 or so and knew I was ready. I loved training but if competing meant I had to go crazy the f it.
Had some fund though. I was no where on the level if nonest or Wes or those guys but it was fun
-
If HGH "works", why Lee Priest didn't grow up for another 5 inches ;D
Dwarf stays dwarf !.
Perhaps, it's because he was already fully grown, before he started using it. Aren't people with gigantism those who pituitary glands squirt excessive growth hormone while they're still in their teens?
That's what happened to Andre the Giant and the Big Show (Paul Wight), I believe. Doctors caught Big Show's problem early enough to stop gigantism from having all the nasty side effects that it had on Andre.
-
I took one Pharma Grade Anadrol 50 a day in a cycle I did..........got much thicker and stronger than hell.
When i was powerlifting, me and my training bros would take 100mg per day for 2-3 months at a time.
Makes you stronger than a gorilla.
Too much bloat but that didn't bother me.
Once you come off it you start to look normal again.
This is why so many strength athletes have that pumpkin face, Anadrol is an incredible drug.
-
When i was powerlifting, me and my training bros would take 100mg per day for 2-3 months at a time.
Makes you stronger than a gorilla.
Too much bloat but that didn't bother me.
Once you come off it you start to look normal again.
This is why so many strength athletes have that pumpkin face, Anadrol is an incredible drug.
One was enough for me, I`ve had liver problem in the 80`s..........not due to gear or drinking.
The first time I ever too Halotestin I wanted to kill people.
If my shoelace broke I would want to fight LOL ;D
No wonder fighters take it to make them aggressive.
I was harder than nails though but I couldn`t wait to get off that shit.
-
One was enough for me, I`ve had liver problem in the 80`s..........not due to gear or drinking.
The first time I ever too Halotestin I wanted to kill people.
If my shoelace broke I would want to fight LOL ;D
No wonder fighters take it to make them aggressive.
I was harder than nails though but I couldn`t wait to get off that shit.
;D
Yeah Halo is the only steroid that made me physically aggressive. It was nuts.
It did harden me up a lot (no homo) and increase strength.
I know a lot of guys who used in pre contest.
Even on Tren i had a shorter temper but was easily controlled.
Halo made me feel RAGE. Lol
-
Yeah,I had a short temper on Tren also but after a while I learned how to keep myself under control.
-
You're a professional bber and every year you lose. You come so close but just can't topple the champ. This is your life. You only get one chance. The years are adding up and you're not getting any younger. Your prime years are fleeting. How much more and harder can you train? How much more food can you eat? And you're going to continue to stick to 400mg/wk Deca and 4 ius GH?
Gym rats do more than that and that's just so they can walk down the beach, or post pics on a message board convinced that you're impressing perfect strangers that wouldn't give a crap if you dropped dead right there and then.
-
You're a professional bber and every year you lose. You come so close but just can't topple the champ. This is your life. You only get one chance. The years are adding up and you're not getting any younger. Your prime years are fleeting. How much more and harder can you train? How much more food can you eat? And you're going to continue to stick to 400mg/wk Deca and 4 ius GH?
Gym rats do more than that and that's just so they can walk down the beach, or post pics on a message board convinced that you're impressing perfect strangers that wouldn't give a crap if you dropped dead right there and then.
X2
A lot of people are forgetting the mindset of guys at the top, everyone has top genetics, EVERYONE wants the EXTRA edge, no matter how, they all will do whatever it’s to win. Whether it’s more drugs, more food, more training. That’s the bottom line. It’s not cause they have elite genetics they all will do “minimal” cause they respond well. That’s not the mindset, it’s never logical, everyone wants an edge, everyone wants to win, period
-
Gym rats do more than that and that's just so they can walk down the beach, or post pics on a message board convinced that you're impressing perfect strangers that wouldn't give a crap if you dropped dead right there and then.
Bhank comes to mind.
-
Bhank comes to mind.
Just because you guys all used a bunch of crazy compounds in the 80s doesn't mean I do any of that stuff. I train for functional strength
-
Just because you guys all used a bunch of crazy compounds in the 80s doesn't mean I do any of that stuff. I train for functional strength
And use doctor prescribed steroids and GH.
-
And use doctor prescribed steroids and GH.
Doctors can not legally prescribe half the stuff you guys listed
-
Doctors can not legally prescribe half the stuff you guys listed
Well you still get stuff legally from doctors.............Test . Insulin, and GH you can get from a doctor.
Don`t piss on my leg and tell me it`s raining !!
If you are natural then say so, and I`ll promptly call you a liar.
Tons of guy here use or have used.....we can tell when a person is using dude.......not that we care, we just hate the ones that lie about it when it is obviouly blatant.
-
Well you still get stuff legally from doctors.............Test . Insulin, and GH you can get from a doctor.
Don`t piss on my leg and tell me it`s raining !!
If you are natural then say so, and I`ll promptly call you a liar.
Tons of guy here use or have used.....we can tell when a person is using dude.......not that we care, we just hate the ones that lie about it when it is obviouly blatant.
Again I absolutely do not take Insulin. I want to be clear on that to anyone reading this as I believe it to be dangerous. Especially to someone with digestive issues and a fast metabolism. I can get hypoglycimic sometimes and I do not use insulin. I could get in trouble very easily using insulin not safe to anyone reading this do not use insulin.
There is a difference between maintaining your youthful hormone levels through bioidentical peptides under a Dr care and taking large amounts of structurally modified hormones that your body does not naturally produce.
HRT means 200mg of Test weekly 1iu of HGH daily and 30 units of HCG. This will put a middle aged man suffering from hypogonadism in a normal range. That is not the same as taking large amounts of structurally modified steroids like anadrol halotest and dianabol on top of 2grams of oils not the same thing at all. I take vitamins and branch chain amino acids for an extra kick not anadrol
-
I realise I've argued the following to death but here I go again: there are still pharma Anadrols as well as other orals available so one can compare UG vs pharma potency. There is no difference, at least not more than comparing different generic pharmacy brands of other medicines. To claim that Chinese labs can't synthesize legitimate steroids is absurd.
Yes Anadrol is powerful and one tab goes a long way. However, many have done more without "exploding."
Hey oldtimer, explain how this study was possible without these geriatric patients exploding.
Effects of an oral androgen on muscle and metabolism in older, community-dwelling men
E Todd Schroeder et al. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Jan.
Abstract
To determine whether oxymetholone increases lean body mass (LBM) and skeletal muscle strength in older persons, 31 men 65-80 yr of age were randomized to placebo (group 1) or 50 mg (group 2) or 100 mg (group 3) daily for 12 wk. For the three groups, total LBM increased by 0.0 +/- 0.6, 3.3 +/- 1.2 (P < 0.001), and 4.2 +/- 2.4 kg (P < 0.001), respectively. Trunk fat decreased by 0.2 +/- 0.4, 1.7 +/- 1.0 (P = 0.018), and 2.2 +/- 0.9 kg (P = 0.005) in groups 1, 2, and 3, respectively. Relative increases in 1-repetition maximum (1-RM) strength for biaxial chest press of 8.2 +/- 9.2 and 13.9 +/- 8.1% in the two active treatment groups were significantly different from the change (-0.8 +/- 4.3%) for the placebo group (P < 0.03). For lat pull-down, 1-RM changed by -0.6 +/- 8.3, 8.8 +/- 15.1, and 18.4 +/- 21.0% for the groups, respectively (1-way ANOVA, P = 0.019). The pattern of changes among the groups for LBM and upper-body strength suggested that changes might be related to dose. Alanine aminotransferase increased by 72 +/- 67 U/l in group 3 (P < 0.001), and HDL-cholesterol decreased by -19 +/- 9 and -23 +/- 18 mg/dl in groups 2 and 3, respectively (P = 0.04 and P = 0.008). Thus oxymetholone improved LBM and maximal voluntary muscle strength and decreased fat mass in older men.
I've used these China tabs the last 5 years and even though this batch is now 3 years expired they work amazing. Compares very well with say Turkish Anapolon.
-
Again I absolutely do not take Insulin. I want to be clear on that to anyone reading this as I believe it to be dangerous. Especially to someone with digestive issues and a fast metabolism. I can get hypoglycimic sometimes and I do not use insulin. I could get in trouble very easily using insulin not safe to anyone reading this do not use insulin.
There is a difference between maintaining your youthful hormone levels through bioidentical peptides under a Dr care and taking large amounts of structurally modified hormones that your body does not naturally produce.
HRT means 200mg of Test weekly 1iu of HGH daily and 30 units of HCG. This will put a middle aged man suffering from hypogonadism in a normal range. That is not the same as taking large amounts of structurally modified steroids like anadrol halotest and dianabol on top of 2grams of oils not the same thing at all. I take vitamins and branch chain amino acids for an extra kick not anadrol
STOP DANCING...
-
Again I absolutely do not take Insulin. I want to be clear on that to anyone reading this as I believe it to be dangerous. Especially to someone with digestive issues and a fast metabolism. I can get hypoglycimic sometimes and I do not use insulin. I could get in trouble very easily using insulin not safe to anyone reading this do not use insulin.
There is a difference between maintaining your youthful hormone levels through bioidentical peptides under a Dr care and taking large amounts of structurally modified hormones that your body does not naturally produce.
HRT means 200mg of Test weekly 1iu of HGH daily and 30 units of HCG. This will put a middle aged man suffering from hypogonadism in a normal range. That is not the same as taking large amounts of structurally modified steroids like anadrol halotest and dianabol on top of 2grams of oils not the same thing at all. I take vitamins and branch chain amino acids for an extra kick not anadrol
YOU ARE STILL TAKING STEROIDS WHETHER DOCTOR PRESCRIBED OR NOT YOU IMBECILE.....JUST SAY IT, SET YOURELF FREE !! :D
I NEVER SAID HUGE AMOUNTS BUT THE GH IS WHY YOU CAN EAT LIKE SHIT AND STAY LEAN....IS THAT NATURAL?
WITHOUT IT YOU`D BE A FAT TURD WITH YOUR STUPID WHOLE PEACH COBBLER IN ONE SITTING,PIZZA,WINGS, AND SUBS DIET.
-
Got the nerve to say he is the only one training to make progress while he is on GH.
-
There is a difference between maintaining your youthful hormone levels through bioidentical peptides under a Dr care and taking large amounts of structurally modified hormones that your body does not naturally produce.
HRT means 200mg of Test weekly 1iu of HGH daily and 30 units of HCG. This will put a middle aged man suffering from hypogonadism in a normal range. That is not the same as taking large amounts of structurally modified steroids like anadrol halotest and dianabol on top of 2grams of oils not the same thing at all. I take vitamins and branch chain amino acids for an extra kick not anadrol
Unless you are a pregnant woman HCG is not natural to your body.
BTW Dianabol, Halotestin and Deca were used for decades as HRT. I think Halo still has this indication in the PDR.
Dianabol was thought to work well as oral HRT because it aromatises.
-
Just because you guys all used a bunch of crazy compounds in the 80s doesn't mean I do any of that stuff. I train for functional strength
My last contest was in 2011.......fuck the 80`s !!
-
YOU ARE STILL TAKING STEROIDS WHETHER DOCTOR PRESCRIBED OR NOT YOU IMBECILE.....JUST SAY IT, SET YOURELF FREE !! :D
I NEVER SAID HUGE AMOUNTS BUT THE GH IS WHY YOU CAN EAT LIKE SHIT AND STAY LEAN....IS THAT NATURAL?
WITHOUT IT YOU`D BE A FAT TURD WITH YOUR STUPID WHOLE PEACH COBBLER IN ONE SITTING,PIZZA,WINGS, AND SUBS DIET.
Nothing I am prescribed is classified as a steroid my diet hasn't changed in 40 years I have never been fat. I would not be able to get fat no matter how hard I try I also have a digestive disorder in conjunction with a high metabolism and very few fat cells to expand. If you would pay me a million dollars to get fat I would not be able to do it.
-
YOU ARE STILL TAKING STEROIDS WHETHER DOCTOR PRESCRIBED OR NOT YOU IMBECILE.....JUST SAY IT, SET YOURELF FREE !! :D
I NEVER SAID HUGE AMOUNTS BUT THE GH IS WHY YOU CAN EAT LIKE SHIT AND STAY LEAN....IS THAT NATURAL?
WITHOUT IT YOU`D BE A FAT TURD WITH YOUR STUPID WHOLE PEACH COBBLER IN ONE SITTING,PIZZA,WINGS, AND SUBS DIET.
-
Totally erroneous and just plain stupid.
-
Nothing I am prescribed is classified as a steroid my diet hasn't changed in 40 years I have never been fat. I would not be able to get fat no matter how hard I try I also have a digestive disorder in conjunction with a high metabolism and very few fat cells to expand. If you would pay me a million dollars to get fat I would not be able to do it.
So just GH and HCG.
As an aside a surplus of calories exceeding your caloric expenditure consistantly will make anyone fat.
GH helps you stay lean......your eating habits will kill you over time.
-
So just GH and HCG.
As an aside a surplus of calories exceeding your caloric expenditure consistantly will make anyone fat.
GH help you stay lean......your eating habits will kill you over time.
I have been trying to bulk for 20 years and I am not fat yet. Again I do not believe I am capable of getting fat. My body will get sick and my digestive system will break down before I can get fat.
-
Totally erroneous and just plain stupid.
I was organizing it anyway doesn't it look good just got the crossover machine finally have cables. But yes again if you train consistently year round for years you are not going to be fat.
When I start actually doing sports like surfing kiting mountain biking or snowboarding I get to no bodyfat in about a week. I have a wasting disease I struggle to maintain weight when doing any level of activity.
-
::)
You are literally racing to the grave 6 foot deep.
-
::)
You are literally racing to the grave 6 foot deep.
I show you my cool ass home gym where I am fighting back the tides of aging and disease and you think it is a bad thing lol
-
I was organizing it anyway doesn't it look good just got the crossover machine finally have cables. But yes again if you train consistently year round for years you are not going to be fat.
When I start actually doing sports like surfing kiting mountain biking or snowboarding I get to no bodyfat in about a week. I have a wasting disease I struggle to maintain weight when doing any level of activity.
99% of the guys here train year round.....NOT JUST YOU Brian.......you act like you are the only one trying to make progress just because we dont follow your foolish protocol of eating a whole peach cobbler in one sitting and deliberately causing pitting edema.
Yeah,you know what your doing................... ..................NOT !!!!!!!!!!
-
I show you my cool ass home gym where I am fighting back the tides of aging and disease and you think it is a bad thing lol
Good on training, I did 2 hours this am and posted what i did already. The idea you can eat whatever forever is insane as long as you do some weight training is insane.
This is going to really take (many) years off your life the way you are going.
-
I have been trying to bulk for 20 years and I am not fat yet. Again I do not believe I am capable of getting fat. My body will get sick and my digestive system will break down before I can get fat.
And you have proven this on this forum.
smh
-
Nice gym BTW Brian.
-
Good on training, I did 2 hours this am and posted what i did already. The idea you can eat whatever forever is insane as long as you do some weight training is insane.
This is going to really take (many) years off your life the way you are going.
High Cholesterol,diabetes,kidney stones,ulcers, hardening of the arteries,.......and many more potential maladies come to mind from his atrocious eating habits.
-
TRIPLE POST MELTDOWN !!
-
Good on training, I did 2 hours this am and posted what i did already. The idea you can eat whatever forever is insane as long as you do some weight training is insane.
This is going to really take (many) years off your life the way you are going.
Food is literally what keeps you alive there is no such thing as bad food
-
Food is literally what keeps you alive there is no such thing as bad food
YOU IDIOT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
-
High Cholesterol,diabetes,kidney stones,ulcers, hardening of the arteries,.......and many more potential maladies come to mind from his atrocious eating habits.
My total cholesterol was 137 on my last bloodwork. I do not have diabetes. I have never had a kidney stone. My eating habits are actually really good the problem is dumb motherfuckers have been conditioned to think banana chips and yogurt is healthier than chicken and ice cream
I had a 3 egg veggie and cheese omelette with sausage and toast for breakfast
-
My total cholesterol was 137 on my last bloodwork. I do not have diabetes. I have never had a kidney stone. My eating habits are actually really good the problem is dumb motherfuckers have been conditioned to think banana chips and yogurt is healthier than chicken and ice cream
Keep eating shitty and dont say I didn`t warn you when you get sick......not now but in the future.....give it time.
There are terrible foods.....not all food is good......you know better.....I hope.
Ever hear of excess sugar,unaturated fats,preervatives,empty calories...........GOOGL E it Mr. Peach Cobbler of 2021 !! ;D
-
Keep eating shitty and dont say I didn`t warn you when you get sick......not now but in the future.....give it time.
There are terrible foods.....not all food is good......you know better.....I hope.
Ever hear of excess sugar,unaturated fats,preervatives,empty calories...........GOOGL E it Mr. Peach Cobbler of 2021 !! ;D
This was my actual breakfast this am 3 eggs with tomato and onion and cheese two pieces of toast with butter and jam and 2 pieces of sausage one coffee with cream and a gatorade looks pretty damn healthy to me
-
Keep eating shitty and dont say I didn`t warn you when you get sick......not now but in the future.....give it time.
There are terrible foods.....not all food is good......you know better.....I hope.
Ever hear of excess sugar,unaturated fats,preervatives,empty calories...........GOOGL E it Mr. Peach Cobbler of 2021 !! ;D
All food by defintion is good. Preservatives are not food
-
thread drift of peace...
-
All food by defintion is good. Preservatives are not food
But preservatives are in food which means you ingest them.
I just had seven egg whites, 2 whole eggs,some peppers and tomato slices in an omelette cooked in non-fat cooking spray with 2 cups of oatmeal and a banana.
-
thread drift of peace...
The problem is everyone thinks they need to know what pros in the 90s took as if it relates to them and how to improve themselves or what set rep scheme Mike Mentzer used to sell Arthur Jones equipment. They want to argue about nonsensical mathmatical weightlifting calculus. Then they get even crazier on their diet nonsense. When in fact they just need to train and eat. It doesn't matter what you do everything works just keep training and eating.
-
The problem is everyone thinks they need to know what pros in the 90s took as if it relates to them and how to improve themselves or what set rep scheme Mike Mentzer used to sell Arthur Jones equipment. They want to argue about nonsensical mathmatical weightlifting calculus. When in fact they just need to train. It doesn't matter what you do everything works just keep training and eating.
You`re painting things with a broad brush buddy.
-
Bhank,
Don't let them get you down.
Stay the course!
Keep eating peach cobblers, fried chicken, and everything else.
Maintain your pancreas at high insulin production.
280lb. or bust, bro!
-
LOL ;D
-
Nothing I am prescribed is classified as a steroid
BHank, you aren't playing word games with us are you? Let us rephrase -
Are you on any prescribed drugs that are generally considered anabolic, androgen, or some combination of the two?
Are you on any drugs generally accepted as having physique enhancement use?
Are you on any SARMS?
-
BHank, you aren't playing word games with us are you? Let us rephrase -
Are you on any prescribed drugs that are generally considered anabolic, androgen, or some combination of the two?
Are you on any drugs generally accepted as having physique enhancement use?
Are you on any SARMS?
I was recently involved in a debate whether testosterone is an anabolic steroid. Kinda yes... and no :D
-
From More Mates, More Dates.
https://moreplatesmoredates.com/highest-steroid-dosages-used-by-ifbb-pros-in-the-90s/
--
Dorian Yates
Dorian Yates stated he used more drugs in his offseason as opposed to pre-contest.
He concluded that it made the most sense to use the most drugs when he's trying in a calorie surplus trying to gain muscle.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Dorian Yates' steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone – 1000 mg per week
Deca (Nandrolone Decanoate) – 500 mg per week
Dianabol (Dbol) – 40 to 50 mg per day
GH – 2 to 4 IU per day
As far as insulin, Dorian claimed insulin was part of his protocol later in his career.
However, he saw the effects it had on his body composition as a net negative, as he sacrificed dry grainy detail in the muscle for a smoother more bloated look that came with the size gained with insulin.
Yeah Buddy
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Ronnie Coleman's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testex (concentration of 250 mg/mL) – 750 mg per week split into one 250 mg injection three times per week
Primobolan (concentration of 100 mg/mL) – 300 mg per week split into one 100 mg injection three times per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 200 mg per week (unclear if he used more than 200 mg per week or not)
Testosterone Heptylate (concentration of 250 mg/mL) – 500 mg per week split into one 250 mg injection twice per week
Primobolan, Dbol or Anadrol tablets – Roughly 25-100 mg per day depending on the oral steroid chosen
Human Growth Hormone (HGH) – 4 IU per day
Humulin R Insulin – 30 IU split into two 15 IU injections only for the carb up phase before a competition
Lee Priest
This is the one that everyone thinks is bullshit because of how conservative his usage was.
Notably, Lee Priest was one of the only top IFBB pros in the 90s (if not the only) to do a completely transparent interview during the prime of his career where the video could severely impact his placements.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Lee Priest's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Injectable Stanozolol (Winstrol) – 200 mg per week split into two 100 mg injections every three days
Primobolan – 200 mg per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 200 mg per week
Anadrol tablets – 50 mg per day
Human Growth Hormone (HGH) – 2 IU per day
Dillet
Paul's was a lot more detailed.
He had offseason dosages, contest prep dosages, and he even laid out his diet macros which was really interesting.
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Paul Dillet's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Offseason Cycle
Testosterone Cypionate – 400-600 mg per week
Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) – 400-600 mg per week
Anadrol – 50-100 mg per day
Contest Prep Cycle
Testosterone Propionate – 500-600 mg per week
Primobolan – 500-600 mg per week
Anadrol – 50-100 mg per day
GH (growth hormone) – 9 IUs per day
Proviron – 4-5 pills per day
Cytomel – Titrating up to 100 mcg per day
Paul Dillet's Macros Pre-contest
Calories – 4000 calories per day
Protein – 450-600 grams per day
Carbs – 100-200 grams per day
Fats – 75-100 grams per day
Aaron Baker
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Aaron Baker's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone Cypionate – 400 mg per week
Primobolan – 100-200 mg per week
Anadrol – 50 mg per day
Parabolan – Dosage was not specified
Winstrol, Dianabol, Anavar, Halotestin – Reserved for specific phases pre-contest or during mass gaining phases. Dosages were not specified.
Growth Hormone – 2 IUs/day, every other day, for 10-12 weeks, pre-contest only
Insulin – 10 IUs administered twice a day, pre-contest only
Dennis Newman
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Dennis Newman's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Testosterone Cypionate – 200 mg twice a week = 400 mg/week
Sustanon – 250 mg twice a week = 500 mg/week
Testosterone Enanthate – 200 mg twice a week = 400 mg/week
Anavar – 25-30 mg a day
Parabolan – Two 76 mg Parabolan amps per week = 152 mg/week
Primobolan – 1 shot every 3 days = 200 mg/week
Winstrol – 50 mg a day = 350 mg/week
Halotestin – Used pre-contest, the dosage was not disclosed. My educated guess is that he probably used between 20-40 mg per day for the last 2-3 weeks of his contest prep.
Growth Hormone – Tried it twice with a dosage as high as 4 IU per day
Insulin – Tried a couple IU as an experiment but didn't want to increase the dosage
Keep in mind, Dennis Newman had a very short-lived career, and this may not be indicative of what he would have gone on to use had his career not been cut short.
Chris Cormier
After listening to the entire interview, at the peak of Chris Cormier's steroid cycle dosages pre-contest, he claims his use broke down to the following:
Equipoise – 300 mg/week
Primobolan – 400 mg/week
Growth Hormone – 4-9IUs/day
Testosterone – 800 mg/week
Winstrol – 300 to 450 mg/week
Halotestin – 30 to 40mg/day
Insulin – Three or four doses of 12 to 15 IUs/day
Teslac – 50 to 200 mg/day
Matt C type post reported.
-
BHank, you aren't playing word games with us are you? Let us rephrase -
Are you on any prescribed drugs that are generally considered anabolic, androgen, or some combination of the two?
Are you on any drugs generally accepted as having physique enhancement use?
Are you on any SARMS?
I do not currently nor have I previously used any Sarms. I am considering trying MK677. Bioidentical hormones and protein based peptides are not drugs.
-
Bhank,
Don't let them get you down.
Stay the course!
Keep eating peach cobblers, fried chicken, and everything else.
Maintain your pancreas at high insulin production.
280lb. or bust, bro!
I just want legs I would be happy with that and my right arm catching my left and my chest being able to press heavy again. But yeah when you start putting those things together it adds up. The easiest way to add 5lbs of muscle is to add 50lbs of body mass at least 5lbs is going to be muscle. You want to make gains you add weight you can drop the excess later but you need to add weight to make real gains. I am not trying to tone up the legs I want to add actually inches to my quads and calves
I can't get to 280 because I can't hold fat and I am never going to be 260lbs shredded but 240-245 then coming back down to mid 230s? Maybe but one step at a time. In the immortal words of Tom Burnette before being hit in the face with a pool stick "I ain't playing"
-
Bhank,
Did the NHS provide money to China for Covid research?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/fZ2AL48usVPstYwMoT/giphy.gif)
-
"The easiest way to add 5lbs of muscle is to add 50lbs of body mass at least 5lbs is going to be muscle"
-
I knew Dorian in 2005 and we talked precontest stuff. Maybe its a great one? I think his girls tits are even better though. Cool guy who had those DUTCH G-P back then. Hosted by Titus.
-
Bhank,
Did the NHS provide money to China for Covid research?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/fZ2AL48usVPstYwMoT/giphy.gif)
Dude we helped setup the lab in Wuhan it was a joint venture with the US that is why both governments are suppressing it and pushing a seafood market theory. The MSM stol the damn election calling the facts a lie and making it against the rules for people to share the obvious.
-
Nothing I am prescribed is classified as a steroid my diet hasn't changed in 40 years I have never been fat. I would not be able to get fat no matter how hard I try I also have a digestive disorder in conjunction with a high metabolism and very few fat cells to expand. If you would pay me a million dollars to get fat I would not be able to do it.
Why don’t you just say it? Why do you keep dodging the question?
-
I do not currently nor have I previously used any Sarms. I am considering trying MK677. Bioidentical hormones and protein based peptides are not drugs.
What "bioidentical hormones and protein based peptides" is Bhank taking? Please include amounts.
-
What "bioidentical hormones and protein based peptides" is Bhank taking? Please include amounts.
SAME AS HIS 'COCOON OF NUTRIENTS'...THEORY..
-
What "bioidentical hormones and protein based peptides" is Bhank taking? Please include amounts.
My doctors have prescribed me things based on my blood work and needs to survive. I would never encourage anyone to take someone else’s prescribed medications vitamins and branch chain amino acids for their medical conditions. Please consult your doctor for medical advice I am here for training and bodybuilding eating and weight lifting
-
SAME AS HIS 'COCOON OF NUTRIENTS'...THEORY..
That is backed by science research ECW growth and LBM increases in ECW directly correlate to increases in LBM over time. It may not be causation but the same factors result in increases in LBM and ECW
-
My doctors have prescribed me things based on my blood work and needs to survive. I would never encourage anyone to take someone else’s prescribed medications vitamins and branch chain amino acids for their medical conditions. Please consult your doctor for medical advice I am here for training and bodybuilding eating and weight lifting
I'm going to tell my kids this was BHank's stack -
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"
Also 1 peach cobbler every 6 hours.
:).
-
I'm going to tell my kids this was BHank's stack -
Cycle
5,000 test
1200 tren
1200 masterone
1000 deca
1000 anadrol
Proviron 200 a day
Arimidex-50 a day
T3-100 micrograms a day
Synthroid-150 micrograms a day
50 nolvadex
Also injecting melantan 2.
Will be adding anavar and winny as well as letrozole"
Also 1 peach cobbler every 6 hours.
:).
Bhank is def taking a lot, he’s ashamed of his dosages, and his poor response to gear, so he won’t say
-
Doctors can not legally prescribe half the stuff you guys listed
Buy supermarket chicken brests & get 'free' juice & hormones :D
-
Buy supermarket chicken brests & get 'free' juice & hormones :D
Exactly why do you think people grow on milk all the food is full of hormones even our water supply
-
Exactly why do you think people grow on milk all the food is full of hormones even our water supply
And even your syringes ;D
-
Bhank is def taking a lot, he’s ashamed of his dosages, and his poor response to gear, so he won’t say
I have tried to explain I take vitamins many times that my system has a hard time absorbing them but no one wants to hear that
-
I have tried to explain I take vitamins many times that my system has a hard time absorbing them but no one wants to hear that
I'm listening dude - have you tried the PJ Braun approach? ;D
-
I'm listening dude - have you tried the PJ Braun approach? ;D
Hell no that dude is insane
-
Hell no that dude is insane
;D
I think you mean was insane - the way he tells it, sticking coffee and puffing gas up his ass apparently made him 'normal' again ;D
-
Branch Warren cycle (according to Titus):
Testosterone Propionate 2000 mg a week
Trenbolone acetate 1200mg a week
Deca Durabolin 1200mg a week.
Equipoise Boldenone 1000mg a week
Anadrol 3 x 50mg a day
Winstrol 150mgs a day.
Masteron Prop 1200mgs a week as show prep phase
HGH 20IU per day
Insulin up to 15IU per day
-
My doctors have prescribed me things based on my blood work and needs to survive. I would never encourage anyone to take someone else’s prescribed medications vitamins and branch chain amino acids for their medical conditions. Please consult your doctor for medical advice I am here for training and bodybuilding eating and weight lifting
Is the parole board watching you more closely? ;D
We all know you are on all kinds of steroids.
-
Branch Warren cycle (according to Titus):
Testosterone Propionate 2000 mg a week
Trenbolone acetate 1200mg a week
Deca Durabolin 1200mg a week.
Equipoise Boldenone 1000mg a week
Anadrol 3 x 50mg a day
Winstrol 150mgs a day.
Masteron Prop 1200mgs a week as show prep phase
HGH 20IU per day
Insulin up to 15IU per day
That's more accurate.
I know gym rats who take almost that much.
-
I realise I've argued the following to death but here I go again: there are still pharma Anadrols as well as other orals available so one can compare UG vs pharma potency. There is no difference, at least not more than comparing different generic pharmacy brands of other medicines. To claim that Chinese labs can't synthesize legitimate steroids is absurd.
Yes Anadrol is powerful and one tab goes a long way. However, many have done more without "exploding."
Hey oldtimer, explain how this study was possible without these geriatric patients exploding.
Effects of an oral androgen on muscle and metabolism in older, community-dwelling men
E Todd Schroeder et al. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Jan.
Abstract
To determine whether oxymetholone increases lean body mass (LBM) and skeletal muscle strength in older persons, 31 men 65-80 yr of age were randomized to placebo (group 1) or 50 mg (group 2) or 100 mg (group 3) daily for 12 wk. For the three groups, total LBM increased by 0.0 +/- 0.6, 3.3 +/- 1.2 (P < 0.001), and 4.2 +/- 2.4 kg (P < 0.001), respectively. Trunk fat decreased by 0.2 +/- 0.4, 1.7 +/- 1.0 (P = 0.018), and 2.2 +/- 0.9 kg (P = 0.005) in groups 1, 2, and 3, respectively. Relative increases in 1-repetition maximum (1-RM) strength for biaxial chest press of 8.2 +/- 9.2 and 13.9 +/- 8.1% in the two active treatment groups were significantly different from the change (-0.8 +/- 4.3%) for the placebo group (P < 0.03). For lat pull-down, 1-RM changed by -0.6 +/- 8.3, 8.8 +/- 15.1, and 18.4 +/- 21.0% for the groups, respectively (1-way ANOVA, P = 0.019). The pattern of changes among the groups for LBM and upper-body strength suggested that changes might be related to dose. Alanine aminotransferase increased by 72 +/- 67 U/l in group 3 (P < 0.001), and HDL-cholesterol decreased by -19 +/- 9 and -23 +/- 18 mg/dl in groups 2 and 3, respectively (P = 0.04 and P = 0.008). Thus oxymetholone improved LBM and maximal voluntary muscle strength and decreased fat mass in older men.
I've used these China tabs the last 5 years and even though this batch is now 3 years expired they work amazing. Compares very well with say Turkish Anapolon.
I've been using pharma steroids for over 12 years.
It still makes me laugh when people claim the drugs from the 70's were so much better or more powerful.
It's the exact same stuff.
Even the UGL lab stuff i get from a very credible source works perfectly.
People don't understand much about this game anymore.
Expired orals are fine, they last for over a decade easily.
-
I've been using pharma steroids for over 12 years.
It still makes me laugh when people claim the drugs from the 70's were so much better or more powerful.
It's the exact same stuff.
Even the UGL lab stuff i get from a very credible source works perfectly.
People don't understand much about this game anymore.
Expired orals are fine, they last for over a decade easily.
Absolutely. Yes there are lots of crappy UGLs, cheaper compounds substituted for more expensive ones, underdosing etc, but to say it's all shit is ridiculous. There is a huge market so somebody is going to make it. This oldtimer guy writes this same thing every couple of days, then he complains that bodybuilding is so drug dependent today. If the gear is fake who is drug dependent? :D
One former big time UGL operator here in Europe told a friend of mine that about 10-15 years ago they all brewed the gear at only 50% of what the label stated. He didn't feel bad about it he said, since "everyone" was doing the same. So there has been shit on the market but there was and is plenty of good stuff as well.
-
Absolutely. Yes there are lots of crappy UGLs, cheaper compounds substituted for more expensive ones, underdosing etc, but to say it's all shit is ridiculous. There is a huge market so somebody is going to make it. This oldtimer guy writes this same thing every couple of days, then he complains that bodybuilding is so drug dependent today. If the gear is fake who is drug dependent? :D
One former big time UGL operator here in Europe told a friend of mine that about 10-15 years ago they all brewed the gear at only 50% of what the label stated. He didn't feel bad about it he said, since "everyone" was doing the same. So there has been shit on the market but there was and is plenty of good stuff as well.
;D
-
Branch Warren cycle (according to Titus):
Testosterone Propionate 2000 mg a week
Trenbolone acetate 1200mg a week
Deca Durabolin 1200mg a week.
Equipoise Boldenone 1000mg a week
Anadrol 3 x 50mg a day
Winstrol 150mgs a day.
Masteron Prop 1200mgs a week as show prep phase
HGH 20IU per day
Insulin up to 15IU per day
Still didn't grow taller.
-
So the question I have for you who are experienced experts:
So in my mid 50's working out for about a year strictly, never drank, never smoked, eat very healthy, rarely rarely cheat meals, and been taking supplement store "pro-hormones" for a year, what should i now progress to?
just start using only 1 actual steroid (nothing else?) like test cypionate? or enthanate? or a mild oral (once again only this?)...
should i just instead going for TRT at the local male clinic?..
serious replies please and serious recommendations.
-
So the question I have for you who are experienced experts:
So in my mid 50's working out for about a year strictly, never drank, never smoked, eat very healthy, rarely rarely cheat meals, and been taking supplement store "pro-hormones" for a year, what should i now progress to?
just start using only 1 actual steroid (nothing else?) like test cypionate? or enthanate? or a mild oral (once again only this?)...
should i just instead going for TRT at the local male clinic?..
serious replies please and serious recommendations.
What kind of pro-hormones are you talking about? That market dried up so I question if you really have been taking actual hormones.
If I were you I would do the HRT with testosterone *and* 1iu of growth hormone like bhank says he's doing. The growth hormone can add alot over time. Or maybe it's more correct to say the effect is subtle yet noticeable. This is what all the celebrities do. For example I can guarantee Bezos is doing this stack.
But you are not sure you really want to do it so it's better to hold off until you decide to take it no matter what. Seems like you would stress over the drugs at this point so it's not worth it.
-
So the question I have for you who are experienced experts:
So in my mid 50's working out for about a year strictly, never drank, never smoked, eat very healthy, rarely rarely cheat meals, and been taking supplement store "pro-hormones" for a year, what should i now progress to?
just start using only 1 actual steroid (nothing else?) like test cypionate? or enthanate? or a mild oral (once again only this?)...
should i just instead going for TRT at the local male clinic?..
serious replies please and serious recommendations.
Drop the prohormones and just run Test C/E 150mg +/- 50mg a week
That's a generous TRT, should be plenty. Try to get it from a physician if you can afford it. No matter what, stop the pro hormones .. very unfavorable risk:reward profile
-
Thanks Van_Bilderass and Proud Virgin for your experience and comments!...
van, the 2 "pro-hormone" products i'm taking are from a company called 1stpharm.. they are called "Primal T" ( 2 pills morning, 5 days on, 2 days off) and "Night-T" ( 3 pills before bed, no need to cycle on or off)...
both have "natural" ingredients like tribulus, zma, ashwaganda, various plants,extracts, roots stuff....so maybe their not "pro-hormones" but natural "test boosters"?
Not sure what kind of "test" a male clinic would be injecting in me? AND i've heard various different opinions on this, that one a shot every week or every 2 weeks is good, but then i've heard that NO, this causes up and down test levels and would be pointless? That I would need a shot every couple of days or so to keep the test levels up and higher consistently?...
Going to my primary doctor tomorrow in fact, and the last time i went when i made mention of Test levels and therapy, he stated simply " do you have problems with erections?" and when i said no, he said "than you have no need to have me prescribe anything like that to you, we don't do that here"....
-
....
Yeah those are not pro-hormones.
I'm not in the US so I'm not sure what options are best for HRT in your case, but there are a lot of them. Maybe bhank can hook you up, I don't know what clinic he uses or if he mentioned it already.