What’s even more tragic is how many people will still defend this absurdity:
The vacation outbreaks among vaccinated people on Cape Cod is proof that vaccines work, CDC director says
https://news.yahoo.com/vacation-outbreaks-among-vaccinated-people-110201936.html
What’s even more tragic is how many people will still defend this absurdity:
The vacation outbreaks among vaccinated people on Cape Cod is proof that vaccines work, CDC director says
https://news.yahoo.com/vacation-outbreaks-among-vaccinated-people-110201936.html
I love how they say the vaccine helped minimize the severity of covid symptoms.
Meanwhile, millions of unvaccinated people have recovered fine from covid but nobody mentions that.
What’s even more tragic is how many people will still defend this absurdity:
The vacation outbreaks among vaccinated people on Cape Cod is proof that vaccines work, CDC director says
https://news.yahoo.com/vacation-outbreaks-among-vaccinated-people-110201936.html
The cape cod thing was amongst the gay male population who were inside due to weather. Guess what, no one died, and few had to go to the hospital. This is more media MSM panic porn.
The cape cod thing was amongst the gay male population who were inside due to weather.
They were likely inside each other's buttholes all week too.
Terrible sample to for the CDC to dick-tate policy around, regardless
I love how they say the vaccine helped minimize the severity of covid symptoms.
Meanwhile, millions of unvaccinated people have recovered fine from covid but nobody mentions that.
The white man is still trying to mandate that bullshit in a syringe though. That's why I have always believed in the philosophies of...
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It seems the "conspiracy theorists" are right more often than not.M-RNA therapy began aprox 20 years ago and went full use in other viral therapies 10 years ago.
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https://djhjmedia.com/rich/cdc-admits-fully-vaccinated-people-are-spreading-covid-variants-with-high-viral-loads/
CDC Admits Fully Vaccinated People Are Spreading COVID Variants With High Viral Loads
Get the vaccine.
This has to be some of the dumbest shit yet. They are either vaxed or not
I wont be any time soon, until I know more about it, or Joe comes to my door and jabs me himself. ;)OK? But seriously, what do you get from "holding out" besides being stubborn?
OK? But seriously, what do you get from "holding out" besides being stubborn?
The FDA is on the verge of giving FULL use approval within 30 days.
Obviously, nothing is perfect, but 97/100 people hospitalized with covid now weren't vaccinated.
Unless you have cancer or some serious comorbidity, those vaccinated don't get seriously ill.
Again, what do you "get" by refusing?
Thanks , I'm just trying to understand your side and NOT trying to bust your balls.
OK? But seriously, what do you get from "holding out" besides being stubborn?
The FDA is on the verge of giving FULL use approval within 30 days.
Obviously, nothing is perfect, but 97/100 people hospitalized with covid now weren't vaccinated.
Unless you have cancer or some serious comorbidity, those vaccinated don't get seriously ill.
Again, what do you "get" by refusing?
Thanks , I'm just trying to understand your side and NOT trying to bust your balls.
M-RNA therapy began aprox 20 years ago and went full use in other viral therapies 10 years ago.
Once the covid-19 DNA sequence was published in Jan 2020, Pfizer and Modena used it.
Combined with molecular vector targeting of the Covid 19 protein within the viral spike ,an effective vaccine was formed
The Trump admin did a good job funding and promoting "operation warp speed" to bring the 1st two mRNA vaccines into public use.
Get the vaccine .
You "get" to see if there are any long term effects associated with this emergency medication.
So, right now, in the absence of FDA full approval you have:
A drug only approved for emergency approval, with no long term data available, with potential lethal side effects, that doesn't prevent transmission, from a company that can't be held liable for damages, for an illness with a 99.8%+ survival rate. This is not q-anon conspiracy bullshit, just facts.
And, the narrative has changed - the vaccine no longer prevents covid, it "lessens symptoms if you get it".
Best fight against this is proper diet, sunlight and exercise - things you've decided to abandon as you got older. So yes, vax makes sense for you, but plenty of reasons it might not for others.
OK? But seriously, what do you get from "holding out" besides being stubborn?
The FDA is on the verge of giving FULL use approval within 30 days.
Obviously, nothing is perfect, but 97/100 people hospitalized with covid now weren't vaccinated.
Unless you have cancer or some serious comorbidity, those vaccinated don't get seriously ill.
Again, what do you "get" by refusing?
Thanks , I'm just trying to understand your side and NOT trying to bust your balls.
m-RNA therapy was 1st developed over 20 years ago by NIH. So, this wasn't anything "brand new and experimental".
The FDA just announced they are within 30 days for the final decision on giving the m-RNA FULL use approval.
When that happened , I'll bet YOUR side will still refuse and have some goofy claim it's a new GOV conspiracy .
Lastly, all those things ( exercise, diet, sunlight, etc) are great.
BUT, the best defense against getting seriously ill from covid is the vaccine.
PS/ I still train, get a nutritious diet , hike outdoors and don't drink or do any rec drugs.
I'm healthy with a cholesterol level in 160's mg/dl and resting pulse of 59.
I didn't abandon healthy lifestyle but do joke around here at get big . YES, I'm really 62 yrs old
m-RNA therapy was 1st developed over 20 years ago by NIH. So, this wasn't anything "brand new and experimental".
The FDA just announced they are within 30 days for the final decision on giving the m-RNA FULL use approval.
When that happened , I'll bet YOUR side will still refuse and have some goofy claim it's a new GOV conspiracy .
Lastly, all those things ( exercise, diet, sunlight, etc) are great.
BUT, the best defense against getting seriously ill from covid is the vaccine.
PS/ I still train, get a nutritious diet , hike outdoors and don't drink or do any rec drugs.
I'm healthy with a cholesterol level in 160's mg/dl and resting pulse of 59.
I didn't abandon healthy lifestyle but do joke around here at get big . YES, I'm really 62 yrs old
Howard, Im not taking it as ball-busting, no worries there.
I dont and never get flu shots either, I am not in the category for it (vulnerable).
IMO, there is a lot of unknown still with this thing. And I dont trust the groups pushing on people these days.
I wont say "never" and im not doing it for any political reason, it just makes me a bit nervous the way its all being handled...
I look at vaccines and "flu shots" similar to wearing a seatbelt ( ok simple analogy).
A seat belt won't prevent you from getting in a car accident.
BUT, it greatly increases your odds of surviving the wreck and lowers your chance of serious injury.
Consider the covid vaccine a form of "bio" disaster insurance.
You seem like a decent regular guy and I just wanted to give you my honest feedback for you to consider.
BTW, at this very moment, based on Syracuse Univ studies, they can determine to 90% accuracy who would be hospitalized with a "Covid Cloud (lungs)", based on a simple blood serum test but they won't do it. Instead, they are promoting experimental compounds. THEY AREN'T VACCINES BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL IN RUSHED PHASES IV TESTING!
A seatbelt doesn’t cause side effects as does every prescription drug.
I look at vaccines and "flu shots" similar to wearing a seatbelt ( ok simple analogy).
A seat belt won't prevent you from getting in a car accident.
BUT, it greatly increases your odds of surviving the wreck and lowers your chance of serious injury.
Consider the covid vaccine a form of "bio" disaster insurance.
You seem like a decent regular guy and I just wanted to give you my honest feedback for you to consider.
If you don't have any risk factors, why take a vaccine with NO LONG TERM DATA for something that you have a +99% chance of recovering from?
I believe that vaccines are critical and useful for many that have risk factors, but mandating vaccines for young and healthy adults without risk factors is silly.
How’s my resting heart rate Howard😉🤔
WTF is MY side? I don't have a side. I make decisions for myself based on risk factors I perceive. I've stated I'm not anti vax, I'm pro science and personal accountability, and the messaging on this has been inconsistent at best, criminal at worst.
I will always try to combat any potential medical issue with sleep, exercise, nutrition and supplementation before medicine. I still think an improvement of metabolic health is much better than the vaccine. Look at it this way - if survival rates are these high mixing in all the high risk and just unhealthy folks, this would be a common cold rate survival if people got in shape.
Good on you for being in shape. I conflated your joking about your shape for reality.
But, why are the drug manufacturers given immunity on this thing? You think that's reasonable?
A seatbelt doesn’t cause side effects as does every prescription drug.
Stop with the bull shit. It's all about saying it's unsafe to vote in person because of covid so we need mail in votes for fraudulent voting? See how hard the Democrats are fighting audits of the vote even up to having the DOJ threaten arrests. If they won legitimately they would welcome all examination but they don't.
WTF ::) I posted (* ok, simple analogy) with my seat belt post.
Obviously, a seat belt isn't a biological entity . ::)
My point was : wearing it will greatly reduce death and serious injury in a car accident.
It's amazing this keeps getting ignored.
Tape put it best - they keep accumulating more and more cases of adverse affects, and it all gets relatively ignored.
Wonder why?
I was in the marines and you're REQUIRED to get a bunch of vaccines with a "forced air" injection.
I think everyone in the military has the same requirements along with most overseas travel.
Kids going to public school are required to get vaccines for small pox, polio, etc
This has been a basic health requirement for decades now. I had to get vaccines back in the 1960's in grade school.
Once the FDA gives the covid vaccines FULL use approval within 30 days, it should be mandated with all other required vaccines.
This is the best, proven method to eradicate various contagious diseases. It's been used and updated for many years now.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
By using " Your side" I was meant the side refusing to take a covid vaccine.
I'm no medical expert and like you, do my best to stay informed .
Just ask your primary care doc about getting a covid vaccine . Do what they advise.
*that's better info then get big LOL ;D
I was in the marines and you're REQUIRED to get a bunch of vaccines with a "forced air" injection.
I think everyone in the military has the same requirements along with most overseas travel.
Kids going to public school are required to get vaccines for small pox, polio, etc
This has been a basic health requirement for decades now. I had to get vaccines back in the 1960's in grade school.
Once the FDA gives the covid vaccines FULL use approval within 30 days, it should be mandated with all other required vaccines.
This is the best, proven method to eradicate various contagious diseases. It's been used and updated for many years now.
All of the vaccines that are required in schools had / have MANY YEARS of data supporting their efficacy and safety.
The covid vaccine has none of that and that's my point. The covid vaccine was developed faster than any Vaccine in history and it's being pushed harder than any other vaccine in history. Does that make sense to you?
Also, there are new variants coming out that show they are resistant to the vaccine. Sounds like the gig is up. The current covid vaccine will soon be ineffective. It's already showing that with the current Delta strain as well.
Who wouldn't get vaccinated if they got the chance to work at Lowes.... :D
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From my understanding, variants only deviate slightly from the original strain. If this is the case, it shows that these vaccines are shit.
All of the vaccines that are required in schools had / have MANY YEARS of data supporting their efficacy and safety.I'm sorry , but you've got some incomplete info on mRNA based therapies.
The covid vaccine has none of that and that's my point. The covid vaccine was developed faster than any Vaccine in history and it's being pushed harder than any other vaccine in history. Does that make sense to you?
Also, there are new variants coming out that show they are resistant to the vaccine. Sounds like the gig is up. The current covid vaccine will soon be ineffective. It's already showing that with the current Delta strain as well.
I'm sorry , but you've got some incomplete info on mRNA based therapies.
(AGAIN)* - The mRNA therapy was started by NIH over 20 years ago* and used in actual drugs over 10 years ago.
This is not any new concept or experimental drug. The published covid-19 DNA sequence allowed for the
specific protein in the spike on the virus molecule to be targeted successfully via developed vaccine.
FYI, a virus is composed of protein and will undergo slight changes to enhance survival.
I'm no world class expert, but the new delta strain may be more contagious but the existing vaccine is
doing well in preventing death and serious illness from it.
;) Advances in medical science allows us to have more rapid and effective cures then past eras
In the end we all should get final advice on getting a vaccine from our primary care doc.
I'm sorry , but you've got some incomplete info on mRNA based therapies.
(AGAIN)* - The mRNA therapy was started by NIH over 20 years ago* and used in actual drugs over 10 years ago.
This is not any new concept or experimental drug. The published covid-19 DNA sequence allowed for the
specific protein in the spike on the virus molecule to be targeted successfully via developed vaccine.
FYI, a virus is composed of protein and will undergo slight changes to enhance survival.
I'm no world class expert, but the new delta strain may be more contagious but the existing vaccine is
doing well in preventing death and serious illness from it.
;) Advances in medical science allows us to have more rapid and effective cures then past eras
In the end we all should get final advice on getting a vaccine from our primary care doc.
I'm sorry , but you've got some incomplete info on mRNA based therapies.
lmfao... the blithering shitbag is back - to tard even harder.
super.
Howard, what was your experience with side effects from getting the jab?None , zero. I'm totally serious and no BS. Same with my wife. We got both doses of Pfizer 4 mos ago.
None , zero. I'm totally serious and no BS. Same with my wife. We got both doses of Pfizer 4 mos ago.
Everyone else I know who got the vaccine didn't have any .
I've heard credible reports that people who'd had and recovered from Covid can have some minor symptoms
I'm pretty sure Trump never had any side effects when he got vaccinated in Jan, same with his wife/kids, etc
I'm no expert and don't think anything is 100% guaranteed, etc
But, to me, I think your odds of staying healthy are a LOT better with the vaccine then without.
Thanks. The reason I asked is because I’ve noticed older people don’t seem to get side effects whereas young people seem to get hit hard. I haven’t been able to figure out why.
Thanks. The reason I asked is because I’ve noticed older people don’t seem to get side effects whereas young people seem to get hit hard. I haven’t been able to figure out why.
That's interesting.
My parent's had no issues with the shots, but my sister and her husband were laid up in bed for 4-5 days after the second dose. They are late 30's.
My GF had hives, swelling around her arm, headaches and nausea for over a week after her first dose. Hasn't had the second dose. She's 38.
Lots of healthy friends of mine got kicked in the dick by the vaccine.
A lot of vaccinated people in my state are getting Covid.
I'm curious to see the real stats after the next 3-4 months.
It's not the unvaccinated causing the problem, it's humans in general. Mask and vaccines are not doing what people thought they were.
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https://djhjmedia.com/rich/cdc-admits-fully-vaccinated-people-are-spreading-covid-variants-with-high-viral-loads/
CDC Admits Fully Vaccinated People Are Spreading COVID Variants With High Viral Loads
Unvaccinated people still make up the vast majority of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths. They’ve made up more than 94 percent of reported Covid-19 cases in states with available data, a report last week from the Kaiser Family Foundation found. They’ve also made up similar, or higher, shares of hospitalizations and deaths.
Then there’s what really happened in the Provincetown outbreak. The headlines noted three-fourths of people infected by the virus were vaccinated. But among the more than 900 cases tracked as a result of the outbreak, just seven led to hospitalization — and there were zero deaths. If this was 2020, when there were no vaccines, closer to 90 people would have been hospitalized and about nine would have died, based on hospitalization and death rates over the last year.
Thanks. The reason I asked is because I’ve noticed older people don’t seem to get side effects whereas young people seem to get hit hard. I haven’t been able to figure out why.I am wondering this too. It’s the same in Australia.
I am wondering this too. It’s the same in Australia.
The way I see it it’s either something physiological like an older person’s body doesn’t produce as strong of a response to the vaccine, or they’re giving smaller doses to older people.I think it’s the bodies response. In the beginning of vaccination here, 2 old aged people were given the wrong dose of vaccine…, it was 4 times the dose. And they were fine.
The way I see it it’s either something physiological like an older person’s body doesn’t produce as strong of a response to the vaccine, or they’re giving smaller doses to older people.
Thanks. The reason I asked is because I’ve noticed older people don’t seem to get side effects whereas young people seem to get hit hard. I haven’t been able to figure out why.Probably because its the young that have to be targeted if your goal is depopulation. The old aren't a priority anymore.
The way I see it it’s either something physiological like an older person’s body doesn’t produce as strong of a response to the vaccine, or they’re giving smaller doses to older people.
I wonder why this hasn't been reported by MSM?
https://www.infectioncontroltoday.com/view/lambda-variant-of-covid-19-might-be-resistant-to-vaccines
That sounds reasonable, but I haven't seen any credible evidence of that for older folks
I know, children get lower doses and those under 12 will get even smaller doses when that gets the ok.
Does a honeybadger need a vaccine after a venomous snake bite? When I last check they have one of the most prolific immune systems on the face of this earth. I put children in a close 2nd with ZERO % mortality from Chickvid, so why are you advocating them getting a shot of that synthetic bullshit in a syringe?
BTW...these morons in the San Diego Zoo are literally giving animals shots. There is no end to this buffoonery.
Does a honeybadger need a vaccine after a venomous snake bite? When I last check they have one of the most prolific immune systems on the face of this earth. I put children in a close 2nd with ZERO % mortality from Chickvid, so why are you advocating them getting a shot of that synthetic bullshit in a syringe?60% of the deer in Michigan now supposedly test positive for Covid. ::)
BTW...these morons in the San Diego Zoo are literally giving animals shots. There is no end to this buffoonery.
60% of the deer in Michigan now supposedly test positive for Covid. ::)
We can't rest until that number is at 100%!Hopefully the hunters are vaccinated.
Do we have the hospitalization and death rates for these deer?
We can't rest until that number is at 100%!
Do we have the hospitalization and death rates for these deer?
Hopefully the hunters are vaccinated.
Does a honeybadger need a vaccine after a venomous snake bite?
children get lower doses and those under 12 will get even smaller doses when that gets the ok.
u r a large time evil piece of shit – as is anyone advocating this poisonous gene therapy in any context.
those who desire to pollute children, tho, surely have an extra special place in hell.
The covid vaccine is "gene therapy" on children? Good zinger ;D :D LOL. ;D
The covid vaccine is "gene therapy" on children? LOL. ;D
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4817894/
In vitro–transcribed mRNA (IVT mRNA) is emerging as a new class of drug that has the potential to play a role in gene therapy that once was envisioned for DNA
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thanks to dumb, hellbound piece of shit cowards like u.
Dude, believe whatever nonsense you want.Its a bit like that at the moment. You would obviously know quite a bit about proper research and analysis provided your experience and education. Good to see you are continuing with using getbig as entertainment. I think any information you provide here would just backfire and nobody wins. :)
Anyone....why do you think any of these vaccines are being pushed so hard and in some cases as mandates? This is a serious question. I think I know the answer but I want to hear different opinionsI think it’s being mandated because the vaccines aren’t having the desired effect they were hoping for. They think that possibly if everyone is vaccinated, maybe the vaccines will work at reducing Covid. It’s like they can’t or don’t want to admit that they got it wrong. They are getting desperate.
Hopefully the hunters are vaccinated.
Dude, believe whatever nonsense you want.
60% of the deer in Michigan now supposedly test positive for Covid. ::)