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Any of y’all following this? These fools/taliban are rolling through the country like the Wehrmacht of yesteryear. They said they thought it could be six months before they took Kabul and it looks like they’ll have done it within 30 days. Crazy how quickly it fell apart. I think it goes to show most of those people didn’t want our Western way of life. I’m sure all of the sympathizers will be dispatched quickly.
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Any of y’all following this? These fools/taliban are rolling through the country like the Wehrmacht of yesteryear. They said they thought it could be six months before they took Kabul and it looks like they’ll have done it within 30 days. Crazy how quickly it fell apart. I think it goes to show most of those people didn’t want our Western way of life. I’m sure all of the sympathizers will be dispatched quickly.
I'ts total capitulation , Taliban will take Kabul in 2-3 months & now sending back 3000 US soldiers (& 600 Brits) in Kabul is a madness !.
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Let them take over. We don't defend our own border so nation building is pointless.
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Let them take over. We don't defend our own border so nation building is pointless.
Americans the last defenders of Kabul !. :-\
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I'ts total capitulation , Taliban will take Kabul in 2-3 months & now sending back 3000 US soldiers (& 600 Brits) in Kabul is a madness !.
They’re only doing that to evacuate the embassy. Then it’s fucking tail lights. I saw where Germany will pull out their $500 million in aid if taliban takes over. And it will be less than two months, they’re 90 miles outside Kabul with a straight road and a population that is totally apathetic to the situation.
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It's gona be like in Saigon 1975 !.
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I'm no political expert but I assume we got what we wanted out of Afghanistan so now we're leaving.
I think if we were really serious about "building a democracy" we'd have to totally dismantle and re-educate like in Japan or West Germany.
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Any of y’all following this? These fools/taliban are rolling through the country like the Wehrmacht of yesteryear. They said they thought it could be six months before they took Kabul and it looks like they’ll have done it within 30 days. Crazy how quickly it fell apart. I think it goes to show most of those people didn’t want our Western way of life. I’m sure all of the sympathizers will be dispatched quickly.
Pretty shitty that we spent so many lives, so much money and time, just to walk away and let it be overrun. I have friends that are pretty upset about this, some lost very good friends and parts of themselves.
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Biden said it would never happen ::)
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Biden said it would never happen ::)
Last week Biden was talking about 300 000 Afghan government soldiers & 75 000 Talibans ...............
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it's almost like this type of ruling is just normalicy for arabs ::)
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Pretty shitty that we spent so many lives, so much money and time, just to walk away and let it be overrun. I have friends that are pretty upset about this, some lost very good friends and parts of themselves.
I agree, lost two good friends over there.
However, we have no business in the middle east.
We shouldn't have one soldier over there.
Fuck'em.
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it's almost like this type of ruling is just normalicy for arabs ::)
Please understand that the Arab Muslims are in the Middle East. Arab Muslims are in 22 Middle Eastern countries, far from Afghanistan.
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Let them take over. We don't defend our own border so nation building is pointless.
You would think we would have learned by now.
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Please understand that the Arab Muslims are in the Middle East. Arab Muslims are in 22 Middle Eastern countries, far from Afghanistan.
It doesnt matter. Name an arab country that isn't garbage
there's a reason they stand in line to live in white nations. just like people of Africa and other shithole countries. What I'm saying is that this is based on ethnicity, not religion.
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Sad to see the taliban scum take over the country so quickly. They are like rats or a pest.
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Pretty shitty that we spent so many lives, so much money and time, just to walk away and let it be overrun. I have friends that are pretty upset about this, some lost very good friends and parts of themselves.
Lots of american lives lost for nothing.
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it's almost like this type of ruling is just normalicy for arabs ::)
Do you even geography, bro?
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The Russians got their ass handed to them in Afghanistan……we thought we could do better? Roflmao
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I agree, lost two good friends over there.
However, we have no business in the middle east.
We shouldn't have one soldier over there.
Fuck'em.
this
They deserve everything they fucking get.
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Do you even geography, bro?
Yes, what's your point? You mean to say it's only a nation?
Arab is a pretty distinct ethnicity. Like white/caucasian. Or black.
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Lol the mighty USA, with all of its money and military resources, got embarrassed by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and Toyota Hiluxes. All in the name of funneling money into military contractors' bank accounts
I hope this helps US service members realize the futility of what they do. You're sacrificing your life for nothing!
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Lol the mighty USA, with all of its money and military resources, got embarrassed by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and Toyota Hiluxes. All in the name of funneling money into military contractors' bank accounts
I hope this helps US service members realize the futility of what they do. You're sacrificing your life for nothing!
There's a difference between trying to win a war and trying to control a nation.
If they wanted to win they could just drop a nuke. So gtfo with that BS.
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Lol the mighty USA, with all of its money and military resources, got embarrassed by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and Toyota Hiluxes. All in the name of funneling money into military contractors' bank accounts
I hope this helps US service members realize the futility of what they do. You're sacrificing your life for nothing!
All wars are foolish.
However, the US obliterated the Taliban and turned Afghanistan into parking lot, saturated with spent uranium and toxic waste. The Taliban had to run away.
The effects of the war will be felt there for generations.
If desired, the U.S. could subdue the Taliban again in a few weeks. A true Total War strategy would eliminate the Taliban forever. The U.S. has the ability to kill every living thing in Afghanistan.
The U.S. had less than 6000 soldier deaths over 20 years. More were lost in a single beach landing in WW2.
The U.S. military is a volunteer force. No Americans were forced to serve.
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That's bs. The US completely obliterated the Taliban and turned Afghanistan into parking lot, saturated with spent uranium and toxic waste.
The effects of the war will be felt there for generations.
The U.S. had less than 6000 soldier deaths over 20 years. More were lost in a single beach landing in WW2.
The U.S. military is a volunteer force. No Americans were forced to serve.
some people are dumb enough to not have a choice..
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In Iraq we wiped their military out. We shouldn't have spent one minute in the country after. We would bomb a road, bridge and buildings then we would build them again. Just insanity. We should have taken their oil fields too to pay for the costs.
Afghanistan was such an ill defined mission. They would leave the base driving the roads that had bombs waiting for them. They would also shoot from elevation down to the roads. After the battle they would retreat to Pakistan where they were safe. We should have went there and killed them so it wasn't a safe zone for them. Every day it was the same thing. Leave the base looking to hunt them down but they were waiting in superior positions. Any soldier can tell you they weren't incompetent. They were well trained in warfare since they were children and they are not afraid to die.
My son spent 8 months is that waste land. When he came back and had leave we had a 8 foot banner on the lawn for him. He came home he tricked us regarding the date he was coming home. We were floating in the pool and he walked in the back yard and said, "How's everyone doing?" My wife was screaming in tears.
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That's bs. The US completely obliterated the Taliban and turned Afghanistan into parking lot, saturated with spent uranium and toxic waste.
The effects of the war will be felt there for generations.
If desired, the U.S. could subdue the Taliban again in a few weeks. A true Total War strategy would eliminate the Taliban forever.
The U.S. had less than 6000 soldier deaths over 20 years. More were lost in a single beach landing in WW2.
The U.S. military is a volunteer force. No Americans were forced to serve.
yes, after 20 years and $2T it only took the "obliterated" Taliban a matter of days to seize the country. The US is left begging them not to burn the embassy down:
American negotiators are trying to extract assurances from the Taliban that they will not attack the U.S. Embassy in Kabul if the extremist group takes over the country’s government and ever wants to receive foreign aid, three American officials said.
The effort, led by Zalmay Khalilzad, the chief American envoy in talks with the Taliban, seeks to stave off a full evacuation of the embassy as they rapidly seize cities across Afghanistan. On Thursday, the State Department announced it was sending home an unspecified number of the 1,400 Americans stationed at the embassy and drawing down to what the agency’s spokesman, Ned Price, described as a “core diplomatic presence” in Kabul.
The embassy also urged Americans who were not working for the U.S. government to immediately leave Afghanistan on commercial flights. The Taliban’s march has put embassies in Kabul on high alert for a surge of violence in coming months, or even weeks, and forced consulates and other diplomatic missions in the country to shut down.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/us/politics/taliban-afghanistan-us-embassy.html
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Meanwhile, China stays two steps ahead--as usual ::)
China Preparing to Recognize Taliban if Kabul Falls: Sources
Any sort of stability in Afghanistan would also allow China to reap the benefits of prior economic investments in the region, including mineral rights in Afghanistan. Buried in the latest report from the U.S. inspector general overseeing reconstruction in Afghanistan was a little-noticed observation that China has dramatically increased its economic interests in Afghanistan recently, encouraging the completion of a road in the Wakhan Corridor – the sliver of land connecting the two countries. It cited an Afghan Public Works Ministry spokesperson who said, "China has expressed a huge interest for investment in Afghanistan, particularly in the mining sector, and this road will be good for that, too." The Taliban recently seized wide swaths of that territory as part of an apparent campaign to control Afghanistan's northern border crossings.
China also seeks stability in Afghanistan for the sake of regional infrastructure projects it's already pursuing in neighboring Pakistan as a part of similar investments globally known as the Belt and Road Initiative.
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Good luck to China.
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Meanwhile, China stays two steps ahead--as usual ::)
China is expanding into African countries like Kenya and other countries. If you buy an Italian suit odds are it was made in a Chinese factory in Italy.
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China is expanding into African countries like Kenya and other countries. If you buy an Italian suit odds are it was made in a Chinese factory in Italy.
Yes they are positioning themselves very strategically. Meanwhile our leaders are concerned only with enriching themselves and their donors. Sad!
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We (Americans) think of the Nazi regime in WWII, as most of the world thinks about our U.S. soldiers.
Nobody wants a foreign entity to come in, and throw around its muscle.
Listen, I respect our soldiers, just as Germans probably respected theirs. In the end, they have a job to do, and it comes down to following orders. I bet many Nazi soldiers were good men, family men. I bet a good amount didn't agree with the way Hitler was going, but what are they really going to do about it.
In many ways, our U.S. soldiers are put in the same predicament: Follow orders, travel to foreign lands, and fight a war against your own government's propaganda machine.
Every army in history has created atrocities against innocent civilians. Put yourself in someone else's shoes before you judge an entire nation of people.
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We (Americans) think of the Nazi regime in WWII, as most of the world thinks about our U.S. soldiers.
Nobody wants a foreign entity to come in, and throw around its muscle.
Listen, I respect our soldiers, just as Germans probably respected theirs. In the end, they have a job to do, and it comes down to following orders. I bet many Nazi soldiers were good men, family men. I bet a good amount didn't agree with the way Hitler was going, but what are they really going to do about it.
In many ways, our U.S. soldiers are put in the same predicament: Follow orders, travel to foreign lands, and fight a war against your own government's propaganda machine.
Every army in history has created atrocities against innocent civilians. Put yourself in someone else's shoes before you judge an entire nation of people.
Its OK for you saying that because its far better to be in someone elses shoes than your own...
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Its OK for you saying that because its far better to be in someone elses shoes than your own...
Please elaborate. Say what you really mean.
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Please elaborate. Say what you really mean.
Its sarcasm, I forgot you were American..
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Its sarcasm, I forgot you were American..
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Lots of american lives lost for nothing.
I am skeptical that the lives were lost for nothing. I have no idea what the objective was but I assume we did it for some reason other than to bring them democracy. I think we probably got what we needed out of that situation and then left.
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However, we have no business in the middle east.
that has to include Israel for it to work
Agreed.
Fuck them too.
Bomb Jerusalem for all i care.
That entire area is filled with brainwashed morons living in the stone age still.
If it weren't for Israel, we would never touch the Middle East.
Should have carpet bombed the entire area when we had a chance.
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Yes they are positioning themselves very strategically. Meanwhile our leaders are concerned only with enriching themselves and their donors. Sad!
You've been gone a while. Lost the virginity yet?
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We (Americans) think of the Nazi regime in WWII, as most of the world thinks about our U.S. soldiers.
Nobody wants a foreign entity to come in, and throw around its muscle.
Listen, I respect our soldiers, just as Germans probably respected theirs. In the end, they have a job to do, and it comes down to following orders. I bet many Nazi soldiers were good men, family men. I bet a good amount didn't agree with the way Hitler was going, but what are they really going to do about it.
In many ways, our U.S. soldiers are put in the same predicament: Follow orders, travel to foreign lands, and fight a war against your own government's propaganda machine.
Every army in history has created atrocities against innocent civilians. Put yourself in someone else's shoes before you judge an entire nation of people.
If you truly believe what you wrote, you are a tard.
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I don't think the Taliban will want the Chinee in Afghanistan anymore than they did the Russians or the Americans.
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Its OK for you saying that because its far better to be in someone elses shoes than your own...
Its BITCHINESS , I forgot you were American..
India, Kenya, Rhodesia, Cyprus, Aden, Israel, South Africa ...
The UK - the biggest and most obliging aircraft carrier we own - but showing signs of being unable to hold it self together
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I don't think the Taliban will want the Chinee in Afghanistan anymore than they did the Russians or the Americans.
Why not? The Taliban were happy to ally themselves with the US back in the 80s--so long as we were keeping them flush with money & weapons.
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If you truly believe what you wrote, you are a tard.
No, you just have to understand what I wrote. Not everyone was born and raised in America.
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No, you just have to understand what I wrote. Not everyone was born and raised in America.
I doubt you have ever left the country, and if you have, it was surely only to stay on this continent. The majority of the world does not think of Americans as the same as Nazi Germany.
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Lol the mighty USA, with all of its money and military resources, got embarrassed by a bunch of goat herders with AKs and Toyota Hiluxes. All in the name of funneling money into military contractors' bank accounts
I hope this helps US service members realize the futility of what they do. You're sacrificing your life for nothing!
Not just Hilaxes, they have 100's of Hammers , thanks to Biden & Afghan army !.
Fact is, amateurs defeated pro NATO & coalition soldiers !.
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Agreed.
Fuck them too.
Bomb Jerusalem for all i care.
That entire area is filled with brainwashed morons living in the stone age still.
If it weren't for Israel, we would never touch the Middle East.
Should have carpet bombed the entire area when we had a chance.
You are still in 1960's !.
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I am skeptical that the lives were lost for nothing. I have no idea what the objective was but I assume we did it for some reason other than to bring them democracy. I think we probably got what we needed out of that situation and then left.
We wanted the Taliban to turn over bin Laden, but they refused, hence the war.
Shooing the Taliban into the hills for nearly 20 years gave the Afghanis – especially the girls and women - a taste of freedom. It seems imminent that it will all go away. Very sad and soon to be tragic.
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We wanted the Taliban to turn over bin Laden, but they refused, hence the war.
Shooing the Taliban into the hills for nearly 20 years gave the Afghanis – especially the girls and women - a taste of freedom. It seems imminent that it will all go away. Very sad and soon to be tragic.
this is false
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
Bush rejects Taliban offer to hand Bin Laden over
Staff and agencies
Sun 14 Oct 2001 17.19 EDT
President George Bush rejected as "non-negotiable" an offer by the Taliban to discuss turning over Osama bin Laden if the United States ended the bombing in Afghanistan.
Returning to the White House after a weekend at Camp David, the president said the bombing would not stop, unless the ruling Taliban "turn [bin Laden] over, turn his cohorts over, turn any hostages they hold over." He added, "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty".
if bringing bin laden to justice was the main objective, it could have been done without a war at all. George Bush sacrificed American lives and wasted trillions of dollars all in the name of generating profits for Halliburton et al. Anyone you know who lost life or limb for this war did so for nothing, just a sheer waste.
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Why not? The Taliban were happy to ally themselves with the US back in the 80s--so long as we were keeping them flush with money & weapons.
They just used us against the Russians.
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They just used us against the Russians.
Sure, and we were happy to do it. Similarly, the Chinese are pragmatic enough to ally with the Taliban now.
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We wanted the Taliban to turn over bin Laden, but they refused, hence the war.
Shooing the Taliban into the hills for nearly 20 years gave the Afghanis – especially the girls and women - a taste of freedom. It seems imminent that it will all go away. Very sad and soon to be tragic.
Yes, shooing the Taliban into the hills let the pedophile warlords that we supported fill the vacuum:
Rampant sexual abuse of children has long been a problem in Afghanistan, particularly among armed commanders who dominate much of the rural landscape and can bully the population. The practice is called bacha bazi, literally “boy play,” and American soldiers and Marines have been instructed not to intervene — in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records.
The policy has endured as American forces have recruited and organized Afghan militias to help hold territory against the Taliban. But soldiers and Marines have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the American military was arming them in some cases and placing them as the commanders of villages — and doing little when they began abusing children.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/world/asia/us-soldiers-told-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys.html
The US military supported, hosted, & armed known pedophile warlords. Think about that, and what it means about you that you support this.
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Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.
Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 :-\
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Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.
Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 :-\
That's when the rest of the world says: take care of your fucking selves.
Just like Black Hawk Down in Africa. Fuck these countries and their civil wars. It's not our problem. Stop sending boyscouts to stamp out rivalries that have lasted for thousands of years. Either oppress them, or leave them to themselves.
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Man these dudes are rolling. I’m following it on BBC and they’ve taken another regional capital, a traditional anti taliban stronghold and are within 25 miles of Kabul. I was reading that some generals believe they’ll begin the assault on Kabul within weeks and the government could collapse in as little as 90 days. I’m thinking they could pull this shit off in a week. The Afghan army is literally giving up without a fight.
Does this just prove that they never wanted our Western way of life to begin with? Is this an example of what happens when a generation of men go soft? Maybe they’d rather have their women in burqas and out of school by 12 :-\
You can't change these people.
It's been their way of life for centuries.
They do not want a Democracy.
Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.
Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.
Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.
American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.
Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.
It will all collapse and return to total shit.
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You can't change these people.
It's been their way of life for centuries.
They do not want a Democracy.
Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.
Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.
Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.
American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.
Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.
It will all collapse and return to total shit.
You're right they are one step away from cavemen. The problem is they have RPG and AK 47's.
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You can't change these people.
It's been their way of life for centuries.
They do not want a Democracy.
Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.
Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.
Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.
American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.
Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.
It will all collapse and return to total shit.
This.
The reason we went into Afghan had nothing to do with Democracy and all that crap.
Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location for the control of oil in the Middle East.
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You're right they are one step away from cavemen. The problem is they have RPG and AK 47's.
& tonne's of brand new American gear , thanks to Biden ................. :-[ :-[ >:(
yesterday they got choppers too >:( >:(
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& tonne's of brand new American gear , thanks to Biden ................. :-[ :-[ >:(
yesterday they got choppers too >:( >:(
We can sell them parts $$!
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This.
The reason we went into Afghan had nothing to do with Democracy and all that crap.
Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location for the control of oil in the Middle East.
Central Asia is militarily lost for NATO !.
+ 3000 Western boys died for NOTHING !.
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You can't change these people.
It's been their way of life for centuries.
They do not want a Democracy.
Afgan, Irag, Syria, Jordan, etc. All will remain the cesspools they are no matter what we do.
Most Americans do not understand the mentality of these people. They want nothing to do with our way of life.
Many of them are only a few generations away from primitive animals.
American government tried to force this upon them because that's what we do best.
Everything we have done in the middle east over the last 30 years was for our own benefit.
It will all collapse and return to total shit.
Dead on accurate. We should never lift a finger to help these savages again.
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this is false
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/oct/14/afghanistan.terrorism5
if bringing bin laden to justice was the main objective, it could have been done without a war at all. George Bush sacrificed American lives and wasted trillions of dollars all in the name of generating profits for Halliburton et al. Anyone you know who lost life or limb for this war did so for nothing, just a sheer waste.
Did you read the article? The Taliban demanded proof of bin Laden’s guilt. We could have given them bin Laden’s signed confession, and they would have rejected it.
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Did you read the article? The Taliban demanded proof of bin Laden’s guilt. We could have given them bin Laden’s signed confession, and they would have rejected it.
why would they turn a fellow countryman over without evidence of his guilt? If the US was interested in avoiding war, they could have attempted diplomatic channels first. But that wouldn't have generated lucrative military contracts.
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Donald Rumsfeld had the opportunity to capture bin laden early on but denied requests for reinforcements and let him walk away to Pakistan. From the Senate report:
But the Al Qaeda leader would live to fight another day.
Fewer than 100 American commandos were on the scene with their
Afghan allies, and calls for reinforcements to launch an
assault were rejected. Requests were also turned down for U.S.
troops to block the mountain paths leading to sanctuary a few
miles away in Pakistan. The vast array of American military
power, from sniper teams to the most mobile divisions of the
Marine Corps and the Army, was kept on the sidelines. Instead,
the U.S. command chose to rely on airstrikes and untrained
Afghan militias to attack bin Laden and on Pakistan's loosely
organized Frontier Corps to seal his escape routes. On or
around December 16, two days after writing his will, bin Laden
and an entourage of bodyguards walked unmolested out of Tora
Bora and disappeared into Pakistan's unregulated tribal area.
Most analysts say he is still there today.
The decision not to deploy American forces to go after bin
Laden or block his escape was made by Secretary of Defense
Donald Rumsfeld and his top commander, Gen. Tommy Franks, the
architects of the unconventional Afghan battle plan known as
Operation Enduring Freedom. Rumsfeld said at the time that he
was concerned that too many U.S. troops in Afghanistan would
create an anti-American backlash and fuel a widespread
insurgency.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CPRT-111SPRT53709/html/CPRT-111SPRT53709.htm
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They took Jalalabad last night and now have encircled Kabul. It’s over, down goes Frazier.
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The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well ???. They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.
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The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well ???. They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.
It's more the religious fundamentalism that make the Taliban great warriors. Regular Afgans, not so much.
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It's just a day job for the "Afghan Army".
At 5pm they punch out and go back to being Talibanners.
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China wants to become buddies with the Taliban now. Oh boy, this ought to be fun, haha. I wonder if the Uyghurs will come up in their discussions :P
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China wants to become buddies with the Taliban now. Oh boy, this ought to be fun, haha. I wonder if the Uyghurs will come up in their discussions :P
letting the Chinese to the Taliban could be a US masterstroke
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The taliban are great warriors. Where's the warriors on the government side, they're Afghans as well ???. They're doing worse than phil heath at the last olympia.
I heard Wolf Blitzer make that same analogy on CNN😂😂
That said, the more important question is whether the Taliban are all wearing masks and adhering to strict social distancing guidelines.🤔
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letting the Chinese to the Taliban could be a US masterstroke
I think they have interest in the area as part of their belt and road initiative. They might end up competing with the Russians there. Who knows.
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The imaginary inroads to complete nonsense that our gov and media are behind.
(https://i.postimg.cc/DwBCkbtB/E810-Aay-Vc-AIb-O1u.jpg)
What a loss for gender studies.
(https://i.postimg.cc/R0g2RYSC/rwtwtwtw.jpg)
Being forced to wear masks and stay out of public. That's something we'll never have to deal with.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Vs0LJqg0/E8uy78y-XMAAZo-Le.jpg)
Jennifer Rubins are a lot scarier than the Taliban. A journalist who used to gaslight is now openly admitting her hatred against Whites. This is half our government now. This is who are tracking down White "supremacists". And this is who is behind flooding the US with refugees to lower the percentage of Whites in the US.
Let's worry about our own borders.
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTDGS1xn/E8s-PMp4-Vo-AYv57-F.jpg)
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You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. ::)
Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.
Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.
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You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. ::)
Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.
Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.
It's important to stress how much of a waste this war truly was, to keep public opinion against starting another expensive military boondoggle on the other side of the globe.
All the lives lost were wasted, flat out. The trillions of dollars spent, wasted. USA lost this war--its not even close. Hell even the USSR kept their Red Party in power for a couple years.
George Bush, Cheney, Powell - they should all be hanged for this and Iraq. It's pitiful to see their image being rehabilitated.
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Salt the kuntry. I mean it. Level it with with salt. Buncha sandslugs. FTN.
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It's important to stress how much of a waste this war truly was, to keep public opinion against starting another expensive military boondoggle on the other side of the globe.
All the lives lost were wasted, flat out. The trillions of dollars spent, wasted. USA lost this war--its not even close. Hell even the USSR kept their Red Party in power for a couple years.
George Bush, Cheney, Powell - they should all be hanged for this and Iraq. It's pitiful to see their image being rehabilitated.
Don't forget that ugly kunt tony blair. He's been getting speaking and teaching gigs since he retired like he's some kind of genius. Them Afghanistan and Iraq wars have to be some of the worst leadership moves in modern history.
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Don't forget that ugly kunt tony blair. He's been getting speaking and teaching gigs since he retired like he's some kind of genius. Them Afghanistan and Iraq wars have to be some of the worst leadership moves in modern history.
Sure why not, have him boiled in oil please ;D
Trump openly decrying these wars makes him the best president we’ve had in a long, long time. He was a lousy president but when he was right, God damn he was right. First President not to start new foreign engagement in decades. No, Iran & Venezuela don’t count.
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Fuck George Bush, and fuck his cousin Blair!
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You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. ::)
Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.
Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.
While this is true, after pulling out he had to reinstall 5000 troops putting our guys at risk of being killed.
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/15/biden-owns-this-top-senate-armed-services-gop-james-inhofe-slams-afghanistan-disaster/
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You guys worried about Afghanistan when they are actively importing a replacement population in the USA at warp speed. ::)
Fuck that place and those people. That article on the last post is the agenda.
Replacement of the majority with a stupid, obedient, complacent, powerless, resourceless, brainwashed group to easily control and manipulate.
You don't need to import immigrants to find plenty of these.
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Sure why not, have him boiled in oil please ;D
Trump openly decrying these wars makes him the best president we’ve had in a long, long time. He was a lousy president but when he was right, God damn he was right. First President not to start new foreign engagement in decades. No, Iran & Venezuela don’t count.
So, why do liberals hate him so much? I never could figure this out.
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Taliban is in Kabul & airport is surrounded!.
"CONGRATULATION" to JOE BIDEN & his military "EXPERTS" >:( >:( >:(
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Taliban is in Kabul & airport is surrounded!.
"CONGRATULATION" to JOE BIDEN & his military "EXPERTS" >:( >:( >:(
The "trolly dollies" are making a final stand?
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We can't(won't) even protect our own borders. Jerry Rivers and others want Afghanistan refugees flooding to the US.
In the navy.
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Now, this poor girl will never be able to dye her hair pink or start an Only Fans account:
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After two decades and billions spent, Afghan government collapses as Taliban takes Kabul
In a swift and stunning rout, Taliban fighters seized control of Afghanistan’s capital on Sunday, completing their sweep of the besieged nation as the Afghan government collapsed after two decades of efforts by the U.S. to reshape the region as part of its “war on terror.”
Embattled President Ashraf Ghani fled the country as the Taliban entered the capital city of Kabul, and American troops scrambled to evacuate thousands of U.S. diplomats and Afghans from the U.S. Embassy.
The Taliban, which for hours had been in the outskirts of Kabul, announced soon after it would move farther into a city gripped by panic throughout the day as helicopters raced overhead to evacuate personnel from the U.S. Embassy. Smoke rose near the compound as staff destroyed important documents. Several other Western missions prepared to pull their people out.
The Pentagon authorized an additional 1,000 U.S. troops to be deployed to Afghanistan to help with the evacuation efforts, said a defense official who was not authorized to speak publicly. That is on top of the 5,000 troops that President Joe Biden announced Saturday would be sent to ensure "an orderly and safe" drawdown and evacuate U.S. personnel as well as Afghans who helped American forces.
The Taliban is soon expected to declare the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan from the presidential palace in Kabul, an official told the Associated Press. Al Jazeera broadcast footage of Taliban fighters inside the presidential palace, sitting behind a desk that the network said was presumed to be Ghani's and placing their guns on it.
In Washington, Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris met via videoconference with their national security team to hear updates on the drawdown of civilian personnel in Afghanistan and the evacuation of allies who worked alongside the U.S. government during the 20-year war.
The fall of Kabul marked the final chapter of America's longest war, which began after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks masterminded by al-Qaida's Osama bin Laden, then harbored by the Taliban government. A U.S.-led invasion forced the Taliban to retreat.
For some, the U.S. pullout was a reminder of America’s ignominious withdrawal from Vietnam in 1975, which ended with iconic images of U.S. helicopters evacuating Americans from the roof of the embassy in Saigon.
U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken flatly rejected such comparisons. "This is manifestly not Saigon," Blinken argued, characterizing the drawdown of embassy and other personnel as "very deliberate."
Still, analysts predicted that history would view the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan as a failure.
“On day one, we go in and the Taliban is in charge. Twenty years later, the Taliban is back in charge,” said Jack Weinstein, a former Pentagon official and expert on international security.
“I don’t know how you couch that as a victory,” he said.
Though Kabul had been expected to fall, the speed of its collapse clearly caught the Biden administration off-guard.
Biden set an Aug. 31 deadline to withdraw all U.S. forces from Afghanistan and bring an end to the 20-year conflict. Just last week, an American military assessment estimated it would be a month before the capital would come under insurgent pressure.
Defying expectations, the Taliban seized nearly all of Afghanistan in a short time, despite the hundreds of billions of dollars spent by the U.S. and NATO over nearly two decades to build up Afghan security forces. Afghan security forces were defeated by the Taliban or fled much of the country, even though they had some air support from the U.S. military.
The U.S. Embassy in Kabul warned Sunday the security situation in Afghanistan was deteriorating and instructed American citizens to "shelter in place" amid reports of gunfire at the airport in Afghanistan's capital. The embassy's security alert came as American troops were in the midst of evacuating all diplomatic staff from the embassy to the airport and as the Taliban entered Kabul, seemingly poised to take over the government.
Ghani flew out of the country, according to multiple media outlets.
Ghani later Sunday offered an explanation in a Facebook post: "Today, I came across a hard choice; I should stand to face the armed Taliban who wanted to enter the palace or leave the dear country that I dedicated my life to protecting and protecting the past twenty years. ...The Taliban have made it to remove me, they are here to attack all Kabul and the people of Kabul. In order to avoid the bleeding flood, I thought it was best to get out."
Abdullah Abdullah, the head of the Afghan National Reconciliation Council, criticized Ghani's exit. “The former president of Afghanistan left Afghanistan, leaving the country in this difficult situation," Abdullah said. "God should hold him accountable.”
Afghans fearing that the Taliban would reimpose the kind of brutal rule that all but eliminated women’s rights rushed to leave the country, lining up at cash machines to withdraw their life savings, the AP reported.
For years, U.S. and Afghan forces focused on controlling key supply chains and major cities in the country, forcing the Taliban into Afghanistan’s rugged hinterland. The Taliban remained strong in the country’s mountainous rural areas, using those regions as bases of attack to seize territory once U.S. forces began their drawdown.
The Taliban also remained in control of strategic border crossings, according to the Associated Press, allowing them to smuggle weapons and other key goods while also rejuvenating forces outside the country.
In February 2020, Washington under then-President Donald Trump signed a deal with the Taliban that limited direct military action against the insurgents. That allowed the fighters to gather strength and move quickly to seize key areas when President Joe Biden announced his plans to withdraw all American forces by the end of this month.
On Sunday, Taliban insurgents approached Kabul. Taliban negotiators in the capital discussed the transfer of power, said an Afghan official who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals, according to AP.
It remained unclear when that transfer would take place and who among the Taliban was negotiating. The negotiators on the government side included former President Hamid Karzai, leader of Hizb-e-Islami political and paramilitary group Gulbudin Hekmatyar and Abdullah, who has been a vocal critic of Ghani.
Karzai, with his three daughters, appeared in a video, saying he remained in Kabul.
“We are trying to solve the issue of Afghanistan with the Taliban leadership peacefully,” he said, while the roar of a passing helicopter could be heard overhead.
Afghanistan’s acting defense minister, Bismillah Khan Mohammadi, lashed out at Ghani.
“They tied our hands from behind and sold the country,” he wrote on Twitter. “Curse Ghani and his gang.”
Taliban fighters tried to calm residents of the capital, insisting they wouldn’t enter people’s homes or interfere with businesses. They also said they’d offer an “amnesty” to those who worked with the Afghan government or foreign forces.
“No one’s life, property and dignity will be harmed and the lives of the citizens of Kabul will not be at risk,” the insurgents said in a statement, according to AP.
But there have been reports of revenge killings and other brutal tactics in areas of the country the Taliban have seized in recent days. One female journalist, weeping, sent voice messages to colleagues after armed men entered her apartment building and banged on her door.
“What should I do? Should I call the police or Taliban?” Getee Azami cried. It wasn't clear what happened to her after that.
Many chose to flee, rushing to the Kabul airport, the last route out of the country as the Taliban now hold every border crossing. NATO said it was “helping to maintain operations at Kabul airport to keep Afghanistan connected with the world.”
One Afghan university student described feeling betrayed as she watched the evacuation of the U.S. Embassy.
“You failed the younger generation of Afghanistan,” said Aisha Khurram, 22, who is now unsure of whether she’ll be able to graduate in two months' time. “A generation ... raised in the modern Afghanistan were hoping to build the country with their own hands. They put blood, efforts and sweat into whatever we had right now."
Sunday began with the Taliban seizing the nearby city of Jalalabad — which had been the last major city besides the capital not in their hands. Afghan officials said the militants also took the capitals of Maidan Wardak, Khost, Kapisa and Parwan provinces, as well as the country's last government-held border post.
Later, Afghan forces at Bagram air base, home to a prison housing 5,000 inmates, surrendered to the Taliban, according to Bagram district chief Darwaish Raufi. The prison at the former U.S. base held both Taliban and Islamic State group fighters.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/after-two-decades-and-billions-spent-afghan-government-collapses-as-taliban-takes-kabul/ar-AANl6rt
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'U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken flatly rejected such comparisons. "This is manifestly not Saigon," Blinken argued, characterizing the drawdown of embassy and other personnel as "very deliberate."'
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/15/talibans-abdul-ghani-baradar-is-undisputed-victor-of-a-20-year-war)
The US and Taliban agreement not to fight each other was supposed to be followed by power-sharing talks between the Taliban and the Kabul government of Ashraf Ghani. Those talks stumbled along with little progress, and it is clear now that Baradar and the Taliban were playing for time, waiting for the Americans to leave and preparing a final offensive. Baradar’s life has taught him patience and confidence in ultimate victory.
B U L L S H I T "news" & is totally outdated !.
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Paul Joseph Watson - only a few minutes long
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Paul Joseph Watson - only a few minutes long
Jolly good, Taffin
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Jolly good, Taffin
:D 8)
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As soon as Biden decided to bail the U.S. lost all its negotiating leverage.
No reason then for the Taliban to negotiate.
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As soon as Biden decided to bail the U.S. lost all its negotiating leverage.
No reason then for the Taliban to negotiate.
This is the problem with these ill-advised nation building exercises. You eventually get put in a position where there are no good solutions. In Afghanistan, either you have the United States as a police force forever or you pull out and it collapses.
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Blinken: "This is manifestly not Saigon" all over again in Afghanistan
Saigon and Kabul:
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Paul Joseph Watson - only a few minutes long
Tiptop, Taffin.
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So, why do liberals hate him so much? I never could figure this out.
Slashing corporate tax rate, ramping up atrocities at border camps (that Obama built but still), rolling back environmental regulations. That's why I dislike him. But I'm a leftist, not a liberal.
Liberals hate Trump because he's low class white trash. They judge a man by what he says rather than what he does ... Pathetic classist worms the entire bunch.
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Mullah Omar would have fit right in with the alpha males on getbig.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/pelosi-afghan-women-biden-withdrawal-taliban-forced-marriages-misogyny-feminism-11629058703?mod=opinion_lead_pos3
Nancy Pelosi on Afghan Women
The House Speaker has a stern feminist warning for the Taliban.
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Politics often requires blind loyalty, and on Afghanistan the word blind clearly applies to Nancy Pelosi. On Sunday the House Speaker issued a statement that began, “The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and the actions he has taken.”
Then she got rolling. “We are deeply concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls. The U.S., the international community and the Afghan government must do everything we can to protect women and girls from inhumane treatment by the Taliban,” Mrs. Pelosi said.
But the “international community” was doing precisely that by maintaining a modest allied force and air power in Afghanistan. Now they’re gone, and we can see what will happen to the women and girls of that country.
“Any political settlement that the Afghans pursue to avert bloodshed must include having women at the table,” the Speaker added. Gotta love that “must.” That should impress the Taliban as it closes schools for girls, forces marriages to Taliban fighters, and bars women from public or prominent commercial life.
Mrs. Pelosi is so used to giving political lectures she doesn’t seem to realize she is detached from reality.
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/pelosi-afghan-women-biden-withdrawal-taliban-forced-marriages-misogyny-feminism-11629058703?mod=opinion_lead_pos3
Nancy Pelosi on Afghan Women
The House Speaker has a stern feminist warning for the Taliban.
(https://images.wsj.net/im-385867?width=860&size=1.5)
Politics often requires blind loyalty, and on Afghanistan the word blind clearly applies to Nancy Pelosi. On Sunday the House Speaker issued a statement that began, “The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and the actions he has taken.”
Then she got rolling. “We are deeply concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls. The U.S., the international community and the Afghan government must do everything we can to protect women and girls from inhumane treatment by the Taliban,” Mrs. Pelosi said.
But the “international community” was doing precisely that by maintaining a modest allied force and air power in Afghanistan. Now they’re gone, and we can see what will happen to the women and girls of that country.
“Any political settlement that the Afghans pursue to avert bloodshed must include having women at the table,” the Speaker added. Gotta love that “must.” That should impress the Taliban as it closes schools for girls, forces marriages to Taliban fighters, and bars women from public or prominent commercial life.
Mrs. Pelosi is so used to giving political lectures she doesn’t seem to realize she is detached from reality.
These guys would stop a hag like her getting any influence.
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These guys would stop a hag like her getting any influence.
😂😂😂
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😂😂😂
She was traveling with Taliban for weeks !.
No more civilan flights from Kabul International airport , looks like scene from "World War Z".
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We basically wasted 20 years to accomplish nothing Osama was in Pakistan the entire damn time
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We basically wasted 20 years to accomplish nothing Osama was in Pakistan the entire damn time
That sums it up perfectly.
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Liberals hate Trump because he's low class white trash.
This again? Haha. Ivy league billionaire, etc. HTH
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Afghanistan. HAHAHAHA.
Hell on earth. Just fence it in and let them kill each other.
North Korea is Miami Beach compared to Afghanistan.
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2 trillion dollars. Apparently,the cost of the war in Afghanistan.
The population of Afghanistan is under 40 million. Doing a little calculating that's about $50,000 for every Afghan man,woman and child . And as the per capita income in Afghanistan is around $600 or $1.75 a day that crudely works out as 80 years of the current Afghan per capita income.
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Also, didn't the US "allegedly" fund the sale of weapons to Iran(when it was under a embargo),during the Iran-Iraq war of the 80's, from the proceeds of cocaine trafficking by the US-backed Contra rebels in Nicaragua? Very clever stuff.
I'm guessing some of that 2 trillion Afghan war money-along with that from the flourishing Afghan opium trade- must've been laundered to fund the destruction of Russia's allies in the Middle East,Libya and Syria,with the help of America's Islamist death squad friends.
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We basically wasted 20 years to accomplish nothing Osama was in Pakistan the entire damn time
The Afghan “Army” allegedly 300k strong with superior weapons was immediately overrun by a 50k Taliban. The whole thing was obviously a fraud.
But, I’m sure everything we’ve been told about Covid is 100% true.
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Islamic sharia law my ass. I guess that is how it is supposed to function in Iran. The Taliban are terrorists and the "rule" they want to implement is 10 times worse than basic sharia law.
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Islamic sharia law my ass. I guess that is how it is supposed to function in Iran. The Taliban are terrorists and the "rule" they want to implement is 10 times worse than basic sharia law.
I dunno, maybe allowing women to run amok like a bunch of nation-wrecking whores in America is better.
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I dunno, maybe allowing women to run amok like a bunch of nation-wrecking whores in America is better.
I tend to agree our freedoms in the west are under a different type of repression, but its repression all the same, Racism, Feminism, LGBT, climate issues all take priority over everything, whilst women will suffer under sharia law, white middle aged men are suffering a similar fate in the west. You can't arrest a black man for stealing and taking drugs, without being charged with murder, turn a beautiful female down for a role in a movie without being charged with rape, anon and anon. The last Twenty years both the west and afghans have lost their way. Do you think the Taliban will sign up to the Paris agreement or are concerned about their carbon footprint. ;D
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We have a group sent in to help some remaining people get out but they believe it’s too far gone already and they won’t be able to get teams into the country anymore.
The clips of the airplanes with people clinging are pretty brutal. When it’s real life you have to look at it and consider was any of it worth it to have it end like this?
Like that butterfly effect movie, you see how it gets more and more fucked up and in the end the decision is to cause the least amount of pain by never being.
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We have a group sent in to help some remaining people get out but they believe it’s too far gone already and they won’t be able to get teams into the country anymore.
The Captain abandoning the ship is usually a good indicator of “too far gone”
Ashraf Ghani, Afghanistan President, flees as Taliban enters Kabul - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/15/asia/afghanistan-taliban-advances-kabul-intl/index.html
The White House statement says they inherited the situation. He was Vice president for eight years. He inherited it primarily from himself.
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It's better for westerners to stick their noses out now.
The Taliban were the only people able to bring stability to that shithole. Just let their people have peace now and build their country up slowly.
Western intervention took the country back to the soviet invasion era.
But gays can't fly the rainbow flag anymore ::)
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I tend to agree our freedoms in the west are under a different type of repression, but its repression all the same, Racism, Feminism, LGBT, climate issues all take priority over everything, whilst women will suffer under sharia law, white middle aged men are suffering a similar fate in the west. You can't arrest a black man for stealing and taking drugs, without being charged with murder, turn a beautiful female down for a role in a movie without being charged with rape, anon and anon. The last Twenty years both the west and afghans have lost their way. Do you think the Taliban will sign up to the Paris agreement or are concerned about their carbon footprint. ;D
Correct! White men in the US are near or are second-class citizens at this point.
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It's better for westerners to stick their noses out now.
The Taliban were the only people able to bring stability to that shithole. Just let their people have peace now and build their country up slowly.
Western intervention took the country back to the soviet invasion era.
But gays can't fly the rainbow flag anymore ::)
I guess there won’t be a non-binary option when registering for 5K races in Kabul.😉
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What is the usa going to do
We armed the taliban
We armed the afghans
We pull from usa resources so they can kill each other?
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This again? Haha. Ivy league billionaire, etc. HTH
It’s a fact, not an insult. He’s not old money and doesn’t behave like an aristocrat. Good for him.
He resonates with average Americans more than any politician since maybe Bill Clinton. And yes, the average American is low class white trash.
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Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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Even though Islam is a cult centering on an illiterate pedophile, they do have the right ideas regarding women and homo's.
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Where's our fearless leader Joe today?
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We should have never been there (Afghanistan) in the first place.
9/11 occurred, we had the smartest president in the history of the US (George Bush Jr) declare war on Iraq (a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks). We take down Saddam Hussein (again, a guy that had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction) and destabilized the region, but didn't actually attack Al-Qaeda. $2 Trillion dollars was spent in the Iraq war alone.
We then assume the terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks were hiding in Afghanistan. We stage a "made-for-TV" attack on Afghanistan were fighter jets fired missiles at a bunch of mountain areas that have probable caves beneath them. This gets the American people all riled up and cheerful. Slowly, Americans that actually read, realized that Afghanistan has never been conquered. Deemed the "graveyard of empires", it's a black hole for military conquests. Today, we have tallied up about $2.5+ Trillion in our efforts within Afghanistan. After 20 years in that country, it took the Taliban a few days to take it right back.
Meanwhile, Osama Bin Laden was hiding in that Shangri-La of a place we call Pakistan. The USA didn't decide to annihilate Pakistan. Why not? Maybe, just maybe, the region didn't provide it with any key resources to further US interests. Who the fuck knows?!? What's worse is that we didn't even give Osama Bin Laden a rightful funeral. Osama Bin Laden's corpse should have been brought to the World Trade Center site, his arms and legs cemented into the center grounds between where the 2 World Trade Center buildings stood and should have had his bare face and torso left to open air so that all victims who lost family members can walk by on a daily basis and urinate or defecate onto his face/chest and furthermore post onto their social media apps. This is heroic. This is the American way. But no, instead he gets a proper burial by sea!?! Why???
Sorry for the rant, but all of this is just so fucking disturbing when you think about it all. Our US national debt is at about $28.6 Trillion (https://www.usdebtclock.org/# (https://www.usdebtclock.org/#)), to think that about 17.5% of our National debt can be attributed to these 2 bullshit "WARS" in Irag & Afghanistan (accounting for about $5 Trillion) is absolute madness.
What did we accomplish with these wars aside from losing so many of our American brothers & sisters in the process and amassing massive debt today that becomes tomorrow's taxes for our children? We are chipping away at the quality of life that our future generations can have by funding these "wars" for the ultra rich and massive government institutions.
I say we pull out of Afghanistan and close the fucking book on it. We had no business in Vietnam, just as we had no business in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Where's our fearless leader Joe today?
He's sprinting up the steps of air force one so he can immediately fight for the right of Afghan transsexuals to wear thongs and bikinis in public.
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We should have never been there (Afghanistan) in the first place.
9/11 occurred, we had the smartest president in the history of the US (George Bush Jr) declare war on Iraq (a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks). We take down Saddam Hussein (again, a guy that had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction) and destabilized the region, but didn't actually attack Al-Qaeda. $2 Trillion dollars was spent in the Iraq war alone.
We then assume the terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks were hiding in Afghanistan. We stage a "made-for-TV" attack on Afghanistan were fighter jets fired missiles at a bunch of mountain areas that have probable caves beneath them. This gets the American people all riled up and cheerful. Slowly, Americans that actually read, realized that Afghanistan has never been conquered. Deemed the "graveyard of empires", it's a black hole for military conquests. Today, we have tallied up about $2.5+ Trillion in our efforts within Afghanistan. After 20 years in that country, it took the Taliban a few days to take it right back.
Meanwhile, Osama Bin Laden was hiding in that Shangri-La of a place we call Pakistan. The USA didn't decide to annihilate Pakistan. Why not? Maybe, just maybe, the region didn't provide it with any key resources to further US interests. Who the fuck knows?!? What's worse is that we didn't even give Osama Bin Laden a rightful funeral. Osama Bin Laden's corpse should have been brought to the World Trade Center site, his arms and legs cemented into the center grounds between where the 2 World Trade Center buildings stood and should have had his bare face and torso left to open air so that all victims who lost family members can walk by on a daily basis and urinate or defecate onto his face/chest and furthermore post onto their social media apps. This is heroic. This is the American way. But no, instead he gets a proper burial by sea!?! Why???
Sorry for the rant, but all of this is just so fucking disturbing when you think about it all. Our US national debt is at about $28.6 Trillion (https://www.usdebtclock.org/# (https://www.usdebtclock.org/#)), to think that about 17.5% of our National debt can be attributed to these 2 bullshit "WARS" in Irag & Afghanistan (accounting for about $5 Trillion) is absolute madness.
What did we accomplish with these wars aside from losing so many of our American brothers & sisters in the process and amassing massive debt today that becomes tomorrow's taxes for our children? We are chipping away at the quality of life that our future generations can have by funding these "wars" for the ultra rich and massive government institutions.
I say we pull out of Afghanistan and close the fucking book on it. We had no business in Vietnam, just as we had no business in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Is that all you've got?
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We should have never been there (Afghanistan) in the first place.
9/11 occurred, we had the smartest president in the history of the US (George Bush Jr) declare war on Iraq (a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks). We take down Saddam Hussein (again, a guy that had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction) and destabilized the region, but didn't actually attack Al-Qaeda. $2 Trillion dollars was spent in the Iraq war alone.
We then assume the terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks were hiding in Afghanistan. We stage a "made-for-TV" attack on Afghanistan were fighter jets fired missiles at a bunch of mountain areas that have probable caves beneath them. This gets the American people all riled up and cheerful. Slowly, Americans that actually read, realized that Afghanistan has never been conquered. Deemed the "graveyard of empires", it's a black hole for military conquests. Today, we have tallied up about $2.5+ Trillion in our efforts within Afghanistan. After 20 years in that country, it took the Taliban a few days to take it right back.
Meanwhile, Osama Bin Laden was hiding in that Shangri-La of a place we call Pakistan. The USA didn't decide to annihilate Pakistan. Why not? Maybe, just maybe, the region didn't provide it with any key resources to further US interests. Who the fuck knows?!? What's worse is that we didn't even give Osama Bin Laden a rightful funeral. Osama Bin Laden's corpse should have been brought to the World Trade Center site, his arms and legs cemented into the center grounds between where the 2 World Trade Center buildings stood and should have had his bare face and torso left to open air so that all victims who lost family members can walk by on a daily basis and urinate or defecate onto his face/chest and furthermore post onto their social media apps. This is heroic. This is the American way. But no, instead he gets a proper burial by sea!?! Why???
Sorry for the rant, but all of this is just so fucking disturbing when you think about it all. Our US national debt is at about $28.6 Trillion (https://www.usdebtclock.org/# (https://www.usdebtclock.org/#)), to think that about 17.5% of our National debt can be attributed to these 2 bullshit "WARS" in Irag & Afghanistan (accounting for about $5 Trillion) is absolute madness.
What did we accomplish with these wars aside from losing so many of our American brothers & sisters in the process and amassing massive debt today that becomes tomorrow's taxes for our children? We are chipping away at the quality of life that our future generations can have by funding these "wars" for the ultra rich and massive government institutions.
I say we pull out of Afghanistan and close the fucking book on it. We had no business in Vietnam, just as we had no business in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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All it would have taken post 9-11 to get revenge was a hitsquad/drone/missile sent out to kill OBL and the main organisers. Bush and Blair need to be lashed in public or executed for all the death and destruction they caused with that nonsense.
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If the guys were left as they were and getbig superstars were shopped into the painting it'd be a master shop
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Is that all you've got?
Nope. But out of respects for our active duty soldiers, I won't even begin to discuss how the dots connect and lead to nefarious sources.
I think it's all bullshit and there is precedent to all that has transpired over the last 20 years. That said, people (as in others) need to do their own research. It's always years later that everything makes sense once you're able to comb through the details of history and see where the money trail leads.
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Even though Islam is a cult centering on an illiterate pedophile, they do have the right ideas regarding women and homo's.
Here's CNN's Kabul version of "mostly peaceful protests".
8 second video:
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Even though Islam is a cult centering on an illiterate pedophile, they do have the right ideas regarding women and homo's.
They're also right about heroine, and in a sense, music, considering the size of our drug-using, escapist, and degenerate population. Islam forbids modern music. And the taliban put an end to the opium trade long ago.
Think of rap. Without the production and promotion of it by the international munchkins, hip-hop would have been a fringe subculture of black ghettoes. Old rap, which doesn’t even remotely sound like the mumbling gibberish of today, was not liked by whites. But now you have seemingly one third of middle class white men, some older than 40, walking around slack-jawed, with the default whigger-tough-guy uniform, bobbing their heads to this garbage, and giving off a vibe of intended intimidation.
Some of them actually seem mentally deranged and as if this music has hijacked their minds and identities. Same goes for the IG whores who twerk to it.
Btw, feminism and matriarchy only exists because western men allow it to. Instead we have a nation of mostly simps and jestermaxxers that bend the knee, idolize, and worship women, mostly women who won’t give them the time of day. Porn is a reflection of this.
Even many western men who don’t truly have liberal-SJW sentiment, latch onto it in hopes of getting laid. Then there is the hypocrisy too. Western men will scoff at Islamic and Mormon polygamy, which actually does result in family formation and keeps women very busy with child raising and the home, albeit a warped formation, yet at the same time glorifying a greaseball like Dan Bilzerian who pumps and dumps hundreds of sterile whores.
I certainly wouldn’t want to live in an Islamic caliphate. But there are some things redeemable about the Muslims, namely their recognition of natural law! Most Christians used to respect natural law. Even the reformer Martin Luther said God made women to be obedient wives or prostitutes.
When I’ve written like this in the past, it was mentioned I should look in the mirror. Yeah, when I look in the mirror I see a modest, somewhat flawed, ordinary man raising kids in this current liberal and matriarchal hellscape.
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of course it is out dated - the Taliban have not honoured the deal they made with Mr Trump
You are 1 DUMB Paki !.
Winners do what ever they want !.
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Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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Breathtaking Advance, LOL. It’s easy to advance when no one is offering any resistance. The Taliban walked in there like P Diddy and his Posse into a club in the 1990’s.
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A funny example is that saudi girl who ran away to Canada. Her "liberation" was to twerk and pose half naked for the gram, get drunk and do drugs, and get dicked down by BBCs.
Yup! And while the Muslims are ruthless to a degree I can’t relate to, I’m not sold on these heart-string-pulling recent clips of silly Afghani women saying “the Taliban is gonna kill all of us,” as if they’re gonna kill innocent women who would be better off alive as breeding stock them than dead. Just my hunch.
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They're also right about heroine, and in a sense, music, considering the size of our drug-using, escapist, and degenerate population. Islam forbids modern music. And the taliban put an end to the opium trade long ago.
Think of rap. Without the production and promotion of it by the international munchkins, hip-hop would have been a fringe subculture of black ghettoes. Old rap, which doesn’t even remotely sound like the mumbling gibberish of today, was not liked by whites. But now you have seemingly one third of middle class white men, some older than 40, walking around slack-jawed, with the default whigger-tough-guy uniform, bobbing their heads to this garbage, and giving off a vibe of intended intimidation.
Some of them actually seem mentally deranged and as if this music has hijacked their minds and identities. Same goes for the IG whores who twerk to it.
Btw, feminism and matriarchy only exists because western men allow it to. Instead we have a nation of mostly simps and jestermaxxers that bend the knee, idolize, and worship women, mostly women who won’t give them the time of day. Porn is a reflection of this.
Even many western men who don’t truly have liberal-SJW sentiment, latch onto it in hopes of getting laid. Then there is the hypocrisy too. Western men will scoff at Islamic and Mormon polygamy, which actually does result in family formation and keeps women very busy with child raising and the home, albeit a warped formation, yet at the same time glorifying a greaseball like Dan Bilzerian who pumps and dumps hundreds of sterile whores.
I certainly wouldn’t want to live in an Islamic caliphate. But there are some things redeemable about the Muslims, namely their recognition of natural law! Most Christians used to respect natural law. Even the reformer Martin Luther said God made women to be obedient wives or prostitutes.
When I’ve written like this in the past, it was mentioned I should look in the mirror. Yeah, when I look in the mirror I see a modest, somewhat flawed, ordinary man raising kids in this current liberal and matriarchal hellscape.
Very good points.
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Our armed forces should never be used as a peace corps, United Nations, or RedCross-type engagements.
They are best served protecting our own country, at home. Only deploy to foreign lands when under direct attack (Pearl Harbour) to defeat a known enemy. Only give support (via special forces) to allies, only in extreme circumstances, and with small detachments.
Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Africa, and Afghanistan(again) has proven absolutely worthless, in lives lost and money squandered.
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Very good points.
Thank you!
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Very good points.
Btw, a good book is Edward Dutton’s How Islam Will Make You Stupid but Rule the World!
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OBW, where is American VP Kamala Harris , she should be protecting ladies of Afghanistan !?.
Day 1 in Kabul, no more female employees in the banks !.
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Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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Fuck them bitches -
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E80zDQ4XoAU6gJX?format=jpg&name=900x900).
Slapping that paint up quick.
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Quite simply, Biden engineered this disaster. Military command did not agree with this boneheaded decision. Of course, Biden will blame Trump tonight, or Russia. Article 25 must be invoked immediately. He is either senile or a complete moron. Maybe both.
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This afternoon Biden to
blame Trump speak on how wrong he was about all this. ::)
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Slapping that paint up quick.
Dead of the feminism in Kabul :D
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Quite simply, Biden engineered this disaster. Military command did not agree with this boneheaded decision. Of course, Biden will blame Trump tonight, or Russia. Article 25 must be invoked immediately. He is either senile or a complete moron. Maybe both.
LOOK AT THIS FOOL!
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Btw, a good book is Edward Dutton’s How Islam Will Make You Stupid but Rule the World!
Don’t buy it. What Islamic country produces anything of value other than oil? The country that really could take over is China. If they were to truly capitulate to capitalism they would pass the US in GDP in short order but they’re still married to communism.
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Knew Tbombz was a Taliban all along
Taliban Bombz
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OBW, where is American VP Kamala Harris , she should be protecting ladies of Afghanistan !?.
Day 1 in Kabul, no more female employees in the banks !.
There's nothing diplomatic that cackling and dancing can't solve.
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Y'all make some noise. It 'mala.
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Don’t buy it. What Islamic country produces anything of value other than oil? The country that really could take over is China. If they were to truly capitulate to capitalism they would pass the US in GDP in short order but they’re still married to communism.
OPIUM ;)
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WOW, VInce G. outside his new shop ............
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Naive question , but who will be protecting the last take off from Kabul airport ::)
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WOW, VInce G. outside his new shop ............
Inb4 VVV's "I'm moving to Kabul" thread.
Calibre Enterprises would kickstart their national economy.
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Don’t buy it. What Islamic country produces anything of value other than oil? The country that really could take over is China. If they were to truly capitulate to capitalism they would pass the US in GDP in short order but they’re still married to communism.
Then don’t buy it. I read it and the points made were plausible. Islam
Actually has stifled innovation wherever it goes. That’s understood and what wasn’t a thesis in the book, hence the title.
Apparently innovation isn’t needed to take over swaths of Europe as the Moslems do now!
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Yeah, Moslems are taking over Europe using Medieval Ways, imagine that.
It's easy though, Globalist Agenda has prevented Euros from being proud of who they are, afraid of complaining on Multiculti and not motivated or encouraged in getting kids (Feminism, CareerWomen, Weak HipsterDads etc), while Moslems and Somali families easily can produce 8 children per household.
It's only a matter of time when Euros are a minority in a smaller region and then a larger region.
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Quite simply, Biden engineered this disaster. Military command did not agree with this boneheaded decision. Of course, Biden will blame Trump tonight, or Russia. Article 25 must be invoked immediately. He is either senile or a complete moron. Maybe both.
Article 25 essentially already has been invoked. The senile old fool isn’t calling any shots. He just lies around all day and is occasionally dressed up to go read off a teleprompter for 20min.
This was his campaign and it has continued to his presidency.
The reality is this was an ill-conceived failed mission that lasted way too long and was going to end badly no matter what we did.
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Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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At 1:23
"They've just told me to stand to the side because I'm a woman,"
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At 1:23
"They've just told me to stand to the side because I'm a woman,"
Thing is, I just don't trust anything CNN puts out. They're the biggest liars on mainstream media. They orchestrate scenes and fuck with the public's perception.
There's no such thing as journalistic integrity when you join CNN. You likely have to be a good looking male or female with stage presence, good diction and an inability to read a prompter incredibly well while conveying whatever emotions the prompter suggests. Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, Anderson Cooper are all guys that would do great on Broadway Theater performing their hearts out for an audience of people.
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Thing is, I just don't trust anything CNN puts out. They're the biggest liars on mainstream media. They orchestrate scenes and fuck with the public's perception.
There's no such thing as journalistic integrity when you join CNN. You likely have to be a good looking male or female with stage presence, good diction and an inability to read a prompter incredibly well while conveying whatever emotions the prompter suggests. Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, Anderson Cooper are all guys that would do great on Broadway Theater performing their hearts out for an audience of people.
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Agreed.
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Nope. But out of respects for our active duty soldiers, I won't even begin to discuss how the dots connect and lead to nefarious sources.
I think it's all bullshit and there is precedent to all that has transpired over the last 20 years. That said, people (as in others) need to do their own research. It's always years later that everything makes sense once you're able to comb through the details of history and see where the money trail leads.
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I was kidding.
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I don’t see how a draft is not going to be re-instituted. You got these guys coming back from Afghanistan and now being told that they are terrorists if they don’t get vaccinated. Between that and Iraq who’s going to sign up for the military voluntarily?
We’ll see how liberals like that “Mandate,” and being told “It’s not about you.” I’ll bet women won’t be so thrilled about equality when it comes to a draft.
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Don’t buy it. What Islamic country produces anything of value other than oil? The country that really could take over is China. If they were to truly capitulate to capitalism they would pass the US in GDP in short order but they’re still married to communism.
I’m no economist or political science major, but it seems Chinas political system of today, is the fascism of Nazi Germany.
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I don’t see how a draft is not going to be re-instituted. You got these guys coming back from Afghanistan and now being told that they are terrorists if they don’t get vaccinated. Between that and Iraq who’s going to sign up for the military voluntarily?
We’ll see how liberals like that “Mandate,” and being told “It’s not about you.” I’ll bet women won’t be so thrilled about equality when it comes to a draft.
That's far out, bro. There will be no draft. For what?
If anything there will be a drawdown and reduction of forces.
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Then don’t buy it. I read it and the points made were plausible. Islam
Actually has stifled innovation wherever it goes. That’s understood and what wasn’t a thesis in the book, hence the title.
Apparently innovation isn’t needed to take over swaths of Europe as the Moslems do now!
Radical Islam will solve Climate Change.
We will go back to a simple life without polluting technology.
It's a win-win.
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That's far out, bro. There will be no draft. For what?
If anything there will be a drawdown and reduction of forces.
That does bring up a good point though. We are supposed to have freedom, right?
Why was there a draft in the first place? You should have the freedom to decline military service. I'm sure there were many soldiers who died, that wouldn't have went, unless they were forced to. How free are we?
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That does bring up a good point though. We are supposed to have freedom, right?
Why was there a draft in the first place? You should have the freedom to decline military service. I'm sure there were many soldiers who died, that wouldn't have went, unless they were forced to. How free are we?
The freedoms you have are only allowed by the government in normal times of peace.
During wartime or times of emergency all normal freedoms can be suspended.
The government can enforce curfews and other restrictions (rationing, military drafts, etc.) at necessary times.
The survival of the nation, of the species, is all important.
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The freedoms you have are only allowed by the government in normal times of peace.
During wartime or times of emergency all normal freedoms can be suspended.
The government can enforce curfews and other restrictions (rationing, military drafts, etc.) at necessary times.
The individual has no power.
Hence, only the illusion of true freedom. Why not come up with a better name for it then? Freedom of convenience. Freedom of circumstance. Freedom when we say so.
Help me out guys.....
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We are supposed to have freedom, right?
How free are we?
George Carlin said it best. Here in America, we don't have rights, we have privileges that can be revoked at any time.
People fall for the illusion of what is sold in this bill of goods, but we have to look no further than history to see that we are no different from others that have suffered during times of uncertainty.
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George Carlin said it best. Here in America, we don't have rights, we have privileges that can be revoked at any time.
People fall for the illusion of what is sold in this bill of goods, but we have to look no further than history to see that we are no different from others that have suffered during times of uncertainty.
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Better stated than me.
Privileges.
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George Carlin said it best. Here in America, we don't have rights, we have privileges that can be revoked at any time.
People fall for the illusion of what is sold in this bill of goods, but we have to look no further than history to see that we are no different from others that have suffered during times of uncertainty.
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Absolutely. I am also not knocking anyone of our brave service men and women (past or present). I have family that served/still serve.
But I honestly wonder why they did take the draft away? Many countries require service.
Maybe that's the freedom they are touting now. We have supposedly been free since 1776.
I love my country, but hypocrisy can easily be spotted.
That's why I believe that they (goverment) will have carte blanche in the future, to continue to amend the Constitution. "Well, our forefathers did live in a different time", they will say.
The Constitution, in reality, is a relic that they can play both sides with, whenever they want.
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Don’t buy it. What Islamic country produces anything of value other than oil? The country that really could take over is China. If they were to truly capitulate to capitalism they would pass the US in GDP in short order but they’re still married to communism.
Yeah, China for me too. The worse case scenario during our lifetimes is that the US elite joins forces with the Chinese Communist party and People's Liberation Army to divide up the world. Still, despite advances, the Chinese have somewhere to go to catch up with the US militarily ie they've only started work on their first nuclear powered aircraft carrier - a ship type the US has operated since the 60's and of which they currently operate 10.
Muslims ,though useful as pawns by the great powers, have never been a force in the world ,since the fall and dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire after World War I - maybe even earlier.
Particularly, worth noting, that since America's complete abandonment of the gold standard(1973) and the 1973 oil crisis,the US financial system has been backed by the petro-dollar. Here the US bought oil from the Arabs and in turn the Arabs reinvested the money into US bonds and the US economy. Indeed,it's the biggest protection racket in the history of the world. This to me more than anything signals the relative powerless of Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling#1974%E2%80%931981_surge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling#1974%E2%80%931981_surge)
The whole sequence of events during that time has always been sold to the general public as the Muslim Gulf Arabs,lead by Saudi Arabia, ultimately calling the shots to the US, by placing an oil embargo ,due to their anger at America's support of Israel ,during the Yom Kippur War(1973). On the other hand, the actual long-term economic facts indicates those actions to be pure theatre.
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Tiptop, Taffin.
:D ;D
Feminism turned off like a light switch.
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Sooo... you're saying that actually the Taliban have some good ideas? 🤔
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You are 1 DUMB Paki !.
Winners do what ever they want !.
Is BBC a Paki and not a Brew?
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I’m no economist or political science major, but it seems Chinas political system of today, is the fascism of Nazi Germany.
Pretty much. They’re a National Socialist country, communist in name only.
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Yeah, China for me too. The worse case scenario during our lifetimes is that the US elite joins forces with the Chinese Communist party and People's Liberation Army to divide up the world. Still, despite advances, the Chinese have somewhere to go to catch up with the US militarily ie they've only started work on their first nuclear powered aircraft carrier - a ship type the US has operated since the 60's and of which they currently operate 10.
Muslims ,though useful as pawns by the great powers, have never been a force in the world ,since the fall and dismemberment of the Ottoman Empire after World War I - maybe even earlier.
Particularly, worth noting, that since America's complete abandonment of the gold standard(1973) and the 1973 oil crisis,the US financial system has been backed by the petro-dollar. Here the US bought oil from the Arabs and in turn the Arabs reinvested the money into US bonds and the US economy. Indeed,it's the biggest protection racket in the history of the world. This to me more than anything signals the relative powerless of Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling#1974%E2%80%931981_surge (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrodollar_recycling#1974%E2%80%931981_surge)
The whole sequence of events during that time has always been sold to the general public as the Muslim Gulf Arabs,lead by Saudi Arabia, ultimately calling the shots to the US, by placing an oil embargo ,due to their anger at America's support of Israel ,during the Yom Kippur War(1973). On the other hand, the actual long-term economic facts indicates those actions to be pure theatre.
You hit the nail on the head as the real root cause of a lot of the countries’ problems is a fiat money system. With the government not being held to any kind of standard they’re going to always spend too much and as a result there will always need to be some crisis ginned up in order to print more money. Covid being the latest.
The next will probably be another war which is why I suspect we might see a draft again in our lifetimes.
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You hit the nail on the head as the real root cause of a lot of the countries’ problems is a fiat money system. With the government not being held to any kind of standard they’re going to always spend too much and as a result there will always need to be some crisis ginned up in order to print more money. Covid being the latest.
The next will probably be another war which is why I suspect we might see a draft again in our lifetimes.
I hope the next war will be soon.
Would love if there was another World War culling the worlds population by 50 %.
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Absolutely. I am also not knocking anyone of our brave service men and women (past or present). I have family that served/still serve.
But I honestly wonder why they did take the draft away? Many countries require service.
Maybe that's the freedom they are touting now. We have supposedly been free since 1776.
I love my country, but hypocrisy can easily be spotted.
That's why I believe that they (goverment) will have carte blanche in the future, to continue to amend the Constitution. "Well, our forefathers did live in a different time", they will say.
The Constitution, in reality, is a relic that they can play both sides with, whenever they want.
Removing the draft allowed the government and military much greater freedom in operations because it no longer had to deal with citizen soldiers and people who protested the draft, and who would question operations and war.
People don't like to be forced into fighting foolish wars but if you volunteer you can't complain. You signed up!
Don't complain about your son getting killed. Nobody forced him to join the Marines.
Rome did the same thing when it went from citizen soldiers to permanent and professional armies.
When is the last time you heard of protests against wars in America?
The problem with this is it can create a warrior class and give the military and it's leaders too much power. The military becomes elite and apart from the ordinary citizens.
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Removing the draft allowed the government and military much greater freedom in operations because it no longer had to deal with citizen soldiers and people who protested the draft.
People don't like to be forced into fighting foolish wars but if you volunteer you can't complain. You signed up1
Rome did the same thing when it went for citizen soldiers to permanent and professional armies.
When is the last time you heard of protests against wars in America?
The problem with this is it can create a warrior class and give the military and it's leaders too much power. The military becomes elite and apart from the ordinary citizens.
That's Part of the problem. We are free, but that "itch" that our dog has, is with our elite soldiers and upper brass. They feel that they have to let the dogs out (No pun intended) every so often, to justify the huge spending budget for the military.
Then again, are the books really the books? Obviously not.
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One benefit of fighting endless wars is that it hones the edge of the military.
The soldiers become experienced fighters and the military progresses in tactics and tech.
It costs too much though and eventually it bankrupts the country.
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One benefit of fighting endless wars is that it hones the edge of the military.
The soldiers become experienced fighters and the military progresses in tactics and tech.
It costs too much though and eventually it bankrupts the country.
There are no benefits to fighting. What happened to Sparta?, What happened to Rome?
Stop fighting. Start defending. America will last forever.
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Recent war efforts have been mainly nation building exercises and we seem to be pretty piss poor at that.
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Has the mushmouth spoken yet?
Is he taking any questions?
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Can Straw and Lurker please explain what this guy is saying?
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We should have never been there (Afghanistan) in the first place.
9/11 occurred, we had the smartest president in the history of the US (George Bush Jr) declare war on Iraq (a country that had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks). We take down Saddam Hussein (again, a guy that had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did Iraq have weapons of mass destruction) and destabilized the region, but didn't actually attack Al-Qaeda. $2 Trillion dollars was spent in the Iraq war alone.
We then assume the terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks were hiding in Afghanistan. We stage a "made-for-TV" attack on Afghanistan were fighter jets fired missiles at a bunch of mountain areas that have probable caves beneath them. This gets the American people all riled up and cheerful. Slowly, Americans that actually read, realized that Afghanistan has never been conquered. Deemed the "graveyard of empires", it's a black hole for military conquests. Today, we have tallied up about $2.5+ Trillion in our efforts within Afghanistan. After 20 years in that country, it took the Taliban a few days to take it right back.
Meanwhile, Osama Bin Laden was hiding in that Shangri-La of a place we call Pakistan. The USA didn't decide to annihilate Pakistan. Why not? Maybe, just maybe, the region didn't provide it with any key resources to further US interests. Who the fuck knows?!? What's worse is that we didn't even give Osama Bin Laden a rightful funeral. Osama Bin Laden's corpse should have been brought to the World Trade Center site, his arms and legs cemented into the center grounds between where the 2 World Trade Center buildings stood and should have had his bare face and torso left to open air so that all victims who lost family members can walk by on a daily basis and urinate or defecate onto his face/chest and furthermore post onto their social media apps. This is heroic. This is the American way. But no, instead he gets a proper burial by sea!?! Why???
Sorry for the rant, but all of this is just so fucking disturbing when you think about it all. Our US national debt is at about $28.6 Trillion (https://www.usdebtclock.org/# (https://www.usdebtclock.org/#)), to think that about 17.5% of our National debt can be attributed to these 2 bullshit "WARS" in Irag & Afghanistan (accounting for about $5 Trillion) is absolute madness.
What did we accomplish with these wars aside from losing so many of our American brothers & sisters in the process and amassing massive debt today that becomes tomorrow's taxes for our children? We are chipping away at the quality of life that our future generations can have by funding these "wars" for the ultra rich and massive government institutions.
I say we pull out of Afghanistan and close the fucking book on it. We had no business in Vietnam, just as we had no business in Iraq or Afghanistan.
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Agreed.
If you look at the process that took place after 9/11, it's all been one big shit show.
Most Americans are too stupid to think for themselves, so they believed all the nonsense they were fed.
Pack up and leave the middle east. Focus on our problems here in the US.
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No questions taken.
Did this script reading idiot just say we are bringing tens of thousands of Afghans to the USA?
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Focus on our problems here in the US.
Most of the problems we have acquired in the last 20 years are the result of too much govt, not like they are going to get out of the fuckery business.
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Agreed.
If you look at the process that took place after 9/11, it's all been one big shit show.
Most Americans are too stupid to think for themselves, so they believed all the nonsense they were fed.
Pack up and leave the middle east. Focus on our problems here in the US.
I don't agree with your post. 9/11 deserved a response. They just had no idea what the fuck to do. We got blindsided. But our enemies have known for many years, due to diplomacy, that we have backed ourselves into a corner.
You can't be a gentle killer.
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Sooo... you're saying that actually the Taliban have some good ideas? 🤔
I'd have to know their stance on TERFs and girl dick. 🤔 :D
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Most of the problems we have acquired in the last 20 years are the result of too much govt, not like they are going to get out of the fuckery business.
One of the biggest took place right after World War II when the government instituted wage price controls. Companies responded by offering healthcare which became pre-tax. Prices started rising. People began retiring, and losing their health plans and couldn’t afford insurance. This paved the way for Medicare which is hopelessly bankrupt.
No questions taken.
Did this script reading idiot just say we are bringing tens of thousands of Afghans to the USA?
Didn’t see it but, Gee, what a surprise😉
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Agreed.
If you look at the process that took place after 9/11, it's all been one big shit show.
Most Americans are too stupid to think for themselves, so they believed all the nonsense they were fed.
Pack up and leave the middle east. Focus on our problems here in the US.
Wholeheartedly agree.
We have way too many problems within our nation at the moment to pretend to have the bandwidth to tackle the "supposed" problems of the middle east. I say supposed, because the USA will never get involved in any foreign affairs unless they get something in exchange for their time and money. It's not like the USA has sent troops to Africa to stop the various genocides that have taken place over the years.
Currently, I see America facing too many issues. We have growing Inflation at an alarming rate (CPI rates are continuously increasing on a monthly basis + hard assets like Real Estate & Stocks have been skyrocketing in prices), growing national debt and trade deficit, continuous increases in unemployment, a widening wealth gap between the rich and poor, dollar devaluation and other countries are losing their faith in the USA knowing what they're truly doing. Plus, if matters couldn't get any worse, you have a nation that's divided between the vaccinated and unvaccinated and is furthermore being led by a demented senior citizen that never goes off script. We're in trouble man and Afghanistan is the least of our worries.
For decades we've allowed for the Military–industrial complex to get away with murder given that their strength has lent this nation enough fear-inducing muscle which has made neighboring nations never want to truly fuck with us due to fear of being severely crushed by our military. That has been cool since 1945 following WW2, but now that we're imploding and losing touch of what's important, we can't keep feeding into this bullshit about invading or keeping a military presence in these turd-infested dustbowls we call countries. America needs to stay innovative, keep technologically advanced, make itself a true contender in world trade, keep a smart workforce on hand and continue to build itself as the lead superpower. We've lost sight of what's important. We've become a nation obsessed with celebrity influencers, portraying false lives to our friends via social media, government hand-me-downs and hair-sniffing demented pedophiles.
Somewhere, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are sitting by a fireplace, sipping on Scotch and laughing at the fact that the USA is slowly destroying itself due to shit leadership at the government level and the perpetual carte blanche we've given central banks (ie Federal Reserve).
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I don't agree with your post. 9/11 deserved a response. They just had no idea what the fuck to do. We got blindsided. But our enemies have known for many years, due to diplomacy, that we have backed ourselves into a corner.
You can't be a gentle killer.
Most Americans are too stupid to think for themselves, so they believed all the nonsense they were fed.
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Most of the problems we have acquired in the last 20 years are the result of too much govt, not like they are going to get out of the fuckery business.
That's another can of worms. ;D
Wasting trillions of dollars and thousands of human lives on a war for oil and corporate profits is not appropriate.
And with zero facts to back up the war.
I agree with you 100% but i feel our money and resources should always focus on the USA.
Even though over Government will piss it away, at least we may have SOME improvements here. And my friends that died in Iraq and Afghan would still be alive, most likely.
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Make no mistake, the U.S. could end things in that region by morning/mourning
Take your pick. We need to abort.
It's time to ignore the cries of foreigners. It weakens us.
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Probably a bad time for an LGBGT rally in Kabul.
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Wholeheartedly agree.
We have way too many problems within our nation at the moment to pretend to have the bandwidth to tackle the "supposed" problems of the middle east. I say supposed, because the USA will never get involved in any foreign affairs unless they get something in exchange for their time and money. It's not like the USA has sent troops to Africa to stop the various genocides that have taken place over the years.
Currently, I see America facing too many issues. We have growing Inflation at an alarming rate (CPI rates are continuously increasing on a monthly basis + hard assets like Real Estate & Stocks have been skyrocketing in prices), growing national debt and trade deficit, continuous increases in unemployment, a widening wealth gap between the rich and poor, dollar devaluation and other countries are losing their faith in the USA knowing what they're truly doing. Plus, if matters couldn't get any worse, you have a nation that's divided between the vaccinated and unvaccinated and is furthermore being led by a demented senior citizen that never goes off script. We're in trouble man and Afghanistan is the least of our worries.
For decades we've allowed for the Military–industrial complex to get away with murder given that their strength has lent this nation enough fear-inducing muscle which has made neighboring nations never want to truly fuck with us due to fear of being severely crushed by our military. That has been cool since 1945 following WW2, but now that we're imploding and losing touch of what's important, we can't keep feeding into this bullshit about invading or keeping a military presence in these turd-infested dustbowls we call countries. America needs to stay innovative, keep technologically advanced, make itself a true contender in world trade, keep a smart workforce on hand and continue to build itself as the lead superpower. We've lost sight of what's important. We've become a nation obsessed with celebrity influencers, portraying false lives to our friends via social media, government hand-me-downs and hair-sniffing demented pedophiles.
Somewhere, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin are sitting by a fireplace, sipping on Scotch and laughing at the fact that the USA is slowly destroying itself due to shit leadership at the government level and the perpetual carte blanche we've given central banks (ie Federal Reserve).
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Good post.
We are imploding ourselves due to bad direction and leadership. Coupled with a very biased media that is filled with lies and agendas.
What's happening in the USA today will not end well.
I have a lot of friends all over the world and they are all laughing at what is happening here. The whole George Floyd and BLM thing.
The problem my friends overseas have is that what happens in America often trends to other parts of the globe within 5-10 years. More or less.
I was in Mexico over the weekend and everything there is going pretty well, Covid aside. They were asking me about all these racial and social injustices happening in America. They are very confused about the whole white supremacy thing and LGBT+ movement. It was hard for me to explain, but they agreed issues that effect less than one percent of the population should not take precedence. These issues are real but so minor they do not cause problems with our society as a whole. You cannot govern based on the minority.
While they didn't like Trump, they know that things are getting worse here. We talked about all the refugees coming through Mexico. The surge at the border are not Mexicans, they are farther south, also many are African. Anyone can enter Mexico no questions asked. The issue with the surge at our border is Mexico's fault. Their government intentionally sends them to us. They give them nothing, let them in freely and then give them bus rides to border towns. It's all very real.
In Juarez there are thousands of Africans now, it's crazy. They are just trying to get into America. Even the Mexicans are up in arms about it, but the government acts like they don't exist.
I was in Villa Ahumada (middle of nowhere Mexico) to visit a friend. It's a major checkpoint for the Mexican National guard, only main road into Juarez. A bus came in with refugees that got detained. It was a very weird thing to see. In this little town they have old cattle pens that are now build into concrete block walls for detaining people outside. No food or water, out in the 100 degree heat. They are treated like cattle.
But the crazy part is after a few days, they bus these people to a small town East of Juarez and let them go free. They get them away from their towns and place them on the edge of the border so they can walk across. These areas don't have a wall to keep them out.
Anyway, i'm rambling. ;D
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Good post.
We are imploding ourselves due to bad direction and leadership. Coupled with a very biased media that is filled with lies and agendas.
What's happening in the USA today will not end well.
I have a lot of friends all over the world and they are all laughing at what is happening here. The whole George Floyd and BLM thing.
The problem my friends overseas have is that what happens in America often trends to other parts of the globe within 5-10 years. More or less.
I was in Mexico over the weekend and everything there is going pretty well, Covid aside. They were asking me about all these racial and social injustices happening in America. They are very confused about the whole white supremacy thing and LGBT+ movement. It was hard for me to explain, but they agreed issues that effect less than one percent of the population should not take precedence. These issues are real but so minor they do not cause problems with our society as a whole. You cannot govern based on the minority.
While they didn't like Trump, they know that things are getting worse here. We talked about all the refugees coming through Mexico. The surge at the border are not Mexicans, they are farther south, also many are African. Anyone can enter Mexico no questions asked. The issue with the surge at our border is Mexico's fault. Their government intentionally sends them to us. They give them nothing, let them in freely and then give them bus rides to border towns. It's all very real.
In Juarez there are thousands of Africans now, it's crazy. They are just trying to get into America. Even the Mexicans are up in arms about it, but the government acts like they don't exist.
I was in Villa Ahumada (middle of nowhere Mexico) to visit a friend. It's a major checkpoint for the Mexican National guard, only main road into Juarez. A bus came in with refugees that got detained. It was a very weird thing to see. In this little town they have old cattle pens that are now build into concrete block walls for detaining people outside. No food or water, out in the 100 degree heat. They are treated like cattle.
But the crazy part is after a few days, they bus these people to a small town East of Juarez and let them go free. They get them away from their towns and place them on the edge of the border so they can walk across. These areas don't have a wall to keep them out.
Anyway, i'm rambling. ;D
I was in Mexico over the weekend.... ::)
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Good post.
We are imploding ourselves due to bad direction and leadership. Coupled with a very biased media that is filled with lies and agendas.
The problem my friends overseas have is that what happens in America often trends to other parts of the globe within 5-10 years. More or less.
I was in Mexico over the weekend
In Juarez there are thousands of Africans now, it's crazy.
Anyway, i'm rambling. ;D
Our media dances to the beat of the highest bidder.
I agree in that what happens in the USA tends to reoccur in lesser developed nations after a few years. The Mexico situation doesn't surprise me.
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Why is Mexico allowing everyone to enter?
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why would they turn a fellow countryman over without evidence of his guilt? If the US was interested in avoiding war, they could have attempted diplomatic channels first. But that wouldn't have generated lucrative military contracts.
I actually don't know - so indulge me - was bin Laden a citizen of Afghanistan? If so, when did he get his citizenship?
We have a simple disagreement: you believe that, had we provided the Taliban our intel on bin Laden, they would’ve turned him over to us. I do not believe that.
Discussion of anything downstream (Halliburton, war for oil, US imperialism, is the mandalorain gay, blah, blah) would be pointless.
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Why is Mexico allowing everyone to enter?
They don't enforce immigration control policies due to corrupt government officials. The southern Latin countries pay the Mexican government millions to take on their refugees. Nobody wants them so they allow them to pass through Mexico so it's an American problem.
The Mexican government does not care about it's people, only money.
On paper they have rules, but they are not enforced. Similar to the USA, but less strict. Nobody cares. The Police won't do anything. Only the military enforces the immigration laws and they are few and far between.
They need all the money they can get, so being a revolving door helps them with taxes for goods and services.
Right now anyone can walk across any Mexican border with no ID. Just pay 10 pesos (50 cents). Millions of people cross every day, most are Mexican citizens looking for work.
The USA border at Mexico is closed to non-US citizens entering here, so i have to have my passport for that. Me and my GF can cross anytime, but her family cannot come to America because they aren't citizens, but they do have travel visas that can't be used. It's a Covid policy that makes zero sense.
I go there with my GF every 3 weeks to see her family in Chihuahua City.
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Why is Mexico allowing everyone to enter?
For money
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Probably a bad time for an LGBGT rally in Kabul.
Gonna be tough to judge the IFFB Afghanistan female divisions with ladies posing in "bee keeper suits".
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Its most probable that the majority of contributors to this thread are too young to remember the ferocious enthusiasm there was for starting this war with a near stone age society.
The demand for war strong enough for us to invade Iraq while still rock breaking the Hindu Kush
Unfortunately .. there was no GP chat boards around then to record reflect the level of support for these adventures
in the years since the enthusiasm gave way to a desire to leave
The US wanted out regardless of what happened after
Bush started the war
Obama & Trump failed to effect a withdrawl
Biddy Joe pulls out (using Trumps plan modified)
And now the nation is near hysteric at getting what it wanted
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Gonna be tough to judge the IFFB Afghanistan female divisions with ladies posing in "bee keeper suits".
Yours 'hero' fucked up in Afghanistan !.
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There are no benefits to fighting. What happened to Sparta?, What happened to Rome?
Stop fighting. Start defending. America will last forever.
No, it won't.
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Its most probable that the majority of contributors to this thread are too young to remember the ferocious enthusiasm there was for starting this war with a near stone age society.
The demand for war strong enough for us to invade Iraq while still rock breaking the Hindu Kush
Unfortunately .. there was no GP chat boards around then to record reflect the level of support for these adventures
in the years since the enthusiasm gave way to a desire to leave
The US wanted out regardless of what happened after
Bush started the war
Obama & Trump failed to effect a withdrawl
Biddy Joe pulls out (using Trumps plan modified)
And now the nation is near hysteric at getting what it wanted
The enthusiasm was for retribution for 9/11. We didn’t sign on for this nation building exercise. Who gives a fuck if there’s Democracy in Afghanistan? Same drill with Iraq. We got sold on weapons of mass destruction which slowly morphed into Iraqi Freedom. The latest bait and switch has been in the form of “15 days to stop the spread.”
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Should have gone big mike cox style (no pull out)
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The enthusiasm was for retribution for 9/11. We didn’t sign on for this nation building exercise. Who gives a fuck if there’s Democracy in Afghanistan? Same drill with Iraq. We got sold on weapons of mass destruction which slowly morphed into Iraqi Freedom. The latest bait and switch has been in the form of “15 days to stop the spread.”
Afganistan
fool me once shame on you
Iraq
fool me twice shame on me
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Australian RAAF Globemasters C17 near Kabul, but they could not land !.
Refueling aircraft tanker is close too !.
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Its most probable that the majority of contributors to this thread are too young to remember the ferocious enthusiasm there was for starting this war with a near stone age society.
The demand for war strong enough for us to invade Iraq while still rock breaking the Hindu Kush
Unfortunately .. there was no GP chat boards around then to record reflect the level of support for these adventures
in the years since the enthusiasm gave way to a desire to leave
The US wanted out regardless of what happened after
Bush started the war
Obama & Trump failed to effect a withdrawl
Biddy Joe pulls out (using Trumps plan modified)
And now the nation is near hysteric at getting what it wanted
Coward, your idol really fucked up to the max !
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Australian RAAF Globemasters C17 near Kabul, but they could not land !.
Refueling aircraft tanker is close too !.
How long before they send in the kangaroos
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How long before they send in the kangaroos
Roo meat taste good , no fat !.
British & German aircrafts a on the way to Kabul International ................. :-\
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wo0oooooooooooshhhhhhhhh hhhh
Taliban leader was freed from Guantanamo Bay in 2014 swap by Obama
https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/
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wo0oooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhhh
Taliban leader was freed from Guantanamo Bay in 2014 swap by Obama
https://nypost.com/2021/08/16/taliban-leader-was-freed-from-guantanamo-in-2014-swap-by-obama/
Of course.
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Pretty shitty that we spent so many lives, so much money and time, just to walk away and let it be overrun. I have friends that are pretty upset about this, some lost very good friends and parts of themselves.
I agree with you. Estimates are 2000+ dead, 20000 wounded 35000 civilians dead, 800+ billion dollars spent. Seems like we accomplished zilch.
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I agree with you. Estimates are 2000+ dead, 20000 wounded 35000 civilians dead, 800+ billion dollars spent. Seems like we accomplished zilch.
It was a disaster.
Every admin and general has been lying to the American public about this for 20 years.
And, the results that are happening now pretty much show that they would have happened no matter how long we stayed.
Right now, based on what I know, it's the right move.
Staying would only accomplish more Americans getting killed.
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USAF Globemaster C-17 took off from Kabul International airport with 640 Afgans , 1st stop Qatar !.
No seats, no safety belts & no use of toilets !.
C-17 is design for 134 military passangers !.
CNN will tell you this in 4-5 days ;D
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I agree with you. Estimates are 2000+ dead, 20000 wounded 35000 civilians dead, 800+ billion dollars spent. Seems like we accomplished zilch.
2,400 American servicemen and nearly 4,000 (!) contractors killed over a near-20-year period. I believe that there are at least 10 friends or family members for each, meaning that at least 60,000 Americans are beside themselves in anger.
We left Vietnam in ’73, but Vietnam had not previously attacked us in any meaningful way.
I am sad and angry to predict some responses from home-grown phukkers.
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Discussion of anything downstream (Halliburton, war for oil, US imperialism, is the mandalorain gay, blah, blah) would be pointless.
Pakistan(no oil) ,to the east of Afghanistan, has always been more strategically important to the US than Afghanistan.
During the Cold War, Pakistan,with its army, kept India in check ,stopped it linking up with the Soviet Union and and kept it away from the Middle East's oil and gas. It was also the one country between both the Soviet Union and China and the Arabian Sea ,with its oil shipping lanes.
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Seems President Biden always thought that way
"According to the book “Directorate S: The CIA and America’s Secret Wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan,” during a 2008 exchange with former Afghan president Hamid Karzai, Biden said: “Mr. President, “Pakistan is fifty times more important than Afghanistan for the United States.” "
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MlcwoY9-6JEJ:https://thehill.com/opinion/international/567813-as-the-talibans-takeover-continues-the-world-calls-for-sanctions-on+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:MlcwoY9-6JEJ:https://thehill.com/opinion/international/567813-as-the-talibans-takeover-continues-the-world-calls-for-sanctions-on+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk)
Reckon it was a strategic disaster for the West when China gave Pakistan the technology for the nuclear bomb, back in the 90's and Pakistan no longer needed US protection.
(never understood why- given Pakistan's importance- the US didn't simply occupy Pakistan and build a military base these ,before the country ever acquired weapon of mass destruction. And I guess this foreign policy failure in Pakistan might partly explains US actions in Iraq,Syria and Libya)
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"Women and children first!"
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This was a really good listen. She said everyone always knew the Taliban would take over again when the US left but none of the generals wanted it to happen on their watch. She doesn’t speak highly of generals. Says they’re all essentially politicians.
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a few million which will surge in Europe.
30% of the population is now muslim.
socialism, wokism and islamism, guess who will win.
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The elephant in the room is why did 300.000 Afghan soldiers not fight back?
Were they even interested in trying?
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The elephant in the room is why did 300.000 Afghan soldiers not fight back?
Were they even interested in trying?
Good question. The most likely answer is the whole fucking thing was a fraud. They were just playing the United States and waiting for them to leave. Probably most were Taliban themselves feeding info to their comrades.
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The elephant in the room is why did 300.000 Afghan soldiers not fight back?
Were they even interested in trying?
would you take up arms against your countrymen over an invading force?
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would you take up arms against your countrymen over an invading force?
If your countrymen were going to implement Sharia law, would you?
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If your countrymen were going to implement Sharia law, would you?
If i'm a muslim man, prob not
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https://twitter.com/newsforalluk/status/1427545007536361472?s=21
Some of them are Get Biggers.
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Good question. The most likely answer is the whole fucking thing was a fraud. They were just playing the United States and waiting for them to leave. Probably most were Taliban themselves feeding info to their comrades.
It shows they never had the buy in from the locals for this. 20 years of lies.
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If i'm a muslim man, prob not
I get that angle, and that's fair.
But I'm also not familiar between the dynamic between those who practice Sharia, and those who don't....don't know any context.
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Speaking of Sharia Law, here’s what the Taliban doesn’t want to deal with.
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If i'm a muslim man, prob not
Very conflicted. ;)
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It shows they never had the buy in from the locals for this. 20 years of lies.
Safe bet the media is not gonna be curious to find out why the 300k strong lavishly armed Afghan army went with the Monty Python “Run Away!” Strategy.
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REPORTER: Is a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan now inevitable?
THE PRESIDENT: No, it is not.
REPORTER: Why?
THE PRESIDENT: Because you — the Afghan troops have 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban. It is not inevitable
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Speaking of Sharia Law, here’s what the Taliban doesn’t want to deal with.
The only good thing about the Muzzies taking over the world is that it would put those kunts in their place.
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State Dept spokesmodel Ned Price has called for the Taliban to include women in its government. Ned Price has spoken!
Ned and the State Department are also worried that US LGBTQ+ propaganda hasn't changed the country.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul)
It's raining Ned. Ned is on the left and on the left.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FsCPXBPk/ned.jpg)
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I'm sure the Taliban will listen.
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State Dept spokesmodel Ned Price has called for the Taliban to include women in its government. Ned Price has spoken!
Ned and the State Department are also worried that US LGBTQ+ propaganda hasn't changed the country.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul)
It's raining Ned. Ned is on the left and on the left.
(https://i.postimg.cc/FsCPXBPk/ned.jpg)
This has been a Goldmine for the Bee😂😂😂
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State Dept spokesmodel Ned Price has called for the Taliban to include women in its government. Ned Price has spoken!
Ned and the State Department are also worried that US LGBTQ+ propaganda hasn't changed the country.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/anthony-blinken-speaks-on-the-fall-of-kabul)
It's raining Ned. Ned is on the left and on the left.
That was comical.
Taliban practice Sharia Law.
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That was comical.
Taliban practice Sharia Law.
Considering the Afghanistan army now stands at zero, exactly is he going to do if they don’t. Is he going to bomb the same women he wants represented in government?
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REPORTER: Is a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan now inevitable?
THE PRESIDENT: No, it is not.
REPORTER: Why?
THE PRESIDENT: Because you — the Afghan troops have 300,000 well-equipped — as well-equipped as any army in the world — and an air force against something like 75,000 Taliban. It is not inevitable
It's not about the number or how well equipped they are....it's about the will of them to hold against their own religion. What did they think would happen? It's not like they disavowed the taliban. BI-DUMB
One thing I can say for sure....I wouldn't want to be one of the 7,000 troops going back in.
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"According to #UnitedNations, number of #Afghans requiring humanitarian assistance in 2021 reached approx. half of #Afghanistan’s total estimated population. This figure nearly double that of 2020 & six-fold increase compared to four years ago..."
Millions are going to die in the next year. End of story.
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It's not about the number or how well equipped they are....it's about the will of them to hold against their own religion. What did they think would happen? It's not like they disavowed the taliban. BI-DUMB
One thing I can say for sure....I wouldn't want to be one of the 7,000 troops going back in.
That’s what Biden is saying now but it never occurred to him or the military in the 20 years we were there that this would happen? Either they’re incompetent, corrupt or both, most likely the latter.
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That’s what Biden is saying now but it never occurred to him or the military in the 20 years we were there that this would happen? Either they’re incompetent, corrupt or both, most likely the latter.
All the people who had money in Heroin have now invested in vaccines...
They dont need the poppy fields now
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All the people who had money in Heroin have now invested in vaccines...
They dont need the poppy fields now
Why grow plants when there is fentanyl?
China wanted all the rare earth metals and other resources so Xiden handed it over.
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Where are Strawman and Lurkernomore? :D
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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We are now in a shift from the resource based military-industrial complex to the pharma-industrial and info-industrial complexes.
Every high level political decision is about keep the troughs full for the pigs that are already there.
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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Generals lied, military complex made $.
The fact that the Taliban took it over so fast pretty much shows it was inevitable, no matter how long our presence.
I'm no fan of the Democrats at all....but getting out will save American lives.
Could they have planned this better? Absolutely - it's a fuck up, and disingenuous to blame the prior admin.
But ultimately is the right move to get out.
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Generals lied, military complex made $.
The fact that the Taliban took it over so fast pretty much shows it was inevitable, no matter how long our presence.
I'm no fan of the Democrats at all....but getting out will save American lives.
Could they have planned this better? Absolutely - it's a fuck up, and disingenuous to blame the prior admin.
But ultimately is the right move to get out.
They can leave it six months until there is another terrorist attack then re-invade and reboot the 20 year cycle.
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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Unless you have friends or family over there you’re not really being affected by it. If they were to bring back the draft and, in the name of equality, include women you’d see the real popularity of these wars.
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Unless you have friends or family over there you’re not really being affected by it. If they were to bring back the draft and, in the name of equality, include women you’d see the real popularity of these wars.
I think all Americans are affected by it in one way or another. The most obvious way is by taxes. These wars are funded through our tax dollars. The spending this country has done on both Iraq & Afghanistan totaled close to $5 Trillion dollars. Our national debt is partly as high as it is due to these expenditures, expenditures which we are still trying to pay down.
I don't want any draft.
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I think all Americans are affected by it in one way or another. The most obvious way is by taxes. These wars are funded through our tax dollars. The spending this country has done on both Iraq & Afghanistan totaled close to $5 Trillion dollars. Our national debt is partly as high as it is due to these expenditures, expenditures which we are still trying to pay down.
I don't want any draft.
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They’re funded primarily through central bank money printing and inflation which is not as obvious. I’m certainly not telling you something you don’t already know.
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The "Biden"(puppet) administration and the Taliban agree on gun control.
(https://i.postimg.cc/c4mPxk8M/E87k-Rx-CWQAEm-DTR.jpg)
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I think all Americans are affected by it in one way or another. The most obvious way is by taxes. These wars are funded through our tax dollars. The spending this country has done on both Iraq & Afghanistan totaled close to $5 Trillion dollars. Our national debt is partly as high as it is due to these expenditures, expenditures which we are still trying to pay down.
I don't want any draft.
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We left a shitload of military equipment over there like Humvees. You would think we would have taken that stuff home with us before leaving.
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They’re funded primarily through central bank money printing and inflation which is not as obvious. I’m certainly not telling you something you don’t already know.
Absolutely. Taxes come in many forms. You can create a new tax to fund government spending or pay national debt. You can also get that same money that taxes would have gathered through the back door.
Federal reserve monetizing debt --> which leads to additional currency created that is --> then utilized for war funding --> you ultimately increase circulating money supply --> which leads to inflation (following increase in the velocity of money)--> which in itself is a tax on the money that people currently hold in their wallets and pocketbooks.
If "money printing" leads to a decrease in the overall purchasing power of money, we've got a hidden tax given that the government will still collect more money from sales tax as well as income taxes when your salary is adjusted for inflation.
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So, where does this rank as far as biggest military blunders in US history?
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So, where does this rank as far as biggest military blunders in US history?
Probably #2 to the Civil War.
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So, where does this rank as far as biggest military blunders in US history?
Hmm, forgetting overall costs for a moment and instead considering the amount of US military deaths and actual GAIN from the war, I think it ranks at #4.
Echoing Humble Narcissist, the #1 absolute biggest military blunder must have been the Civil War with over 750,000 Americans lost in a stupid battle.
Vietnam should be the #2 shittiest military blunder for the US. We lost over 58,220 soldiers in Vietnam. Fuck did we accomplish? Why were we even there besides the notion of stopping the spread of communism?
The Iraq War probably ranks at #3. We lost 4,410 soldiers in that "war". Why were we there? We "thought" they had weapons of mass destruction and also felt there might have been some ties to the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Ultimately, we removed Saddam Hussein and destabilized the region, but hey it only cost us the lives of 4,410 Americans.
At my #4 is certainly the Afghanistan "war". We wasted 20 years in an area that has been known as the "graveyard of empires" and have lost about 2,500 American soldiers. Why were we there? Oh, just chasing after imaginary terrorists that were never there to begin with. 20 years later, we start to leave and the area gets overturned by the Taliban in a few days.
Some wars have been instrumental in our rise as the superpower that we are today, hence why I didn't mention a bunch of them regardless of American casualties. For instance, World War 2 allowed for us to fly in at the perfect time to reap the rewards of being instrumental for good to win over evil. That same card we played allowed for us to become the dominant world empire since 1945. Sadly, I think we are on the tail end of our glorious era. Much like the British and Dutch empires before us, we are committing the same mistakes and going down the same path.
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We left a shitload of military equipment over there like Humvees. You would think we would have taken that stuff home with us before leaving.
That's normal.
We've done that in a lot of wars over the years.
There are fields of our surface equipment still on display in Cambodia and Vietnam.
They will just make more. ;D ;D
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Probably #2 to the Civil War.
HAHAHAHA
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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We were there just to spend money with defense contractors.
I was at a defense expo in Poland two years ago and I shared a booth called the "American Pavilion". This is where a number of US companies, mine included, were able to setup shop at a reduced cost. I happened to strike up a conversation with a guy in the booth area who represented a soldier tracking system company and found out he had served two tours in Afghanistan.
He gave me the rundown. After about a year or two there the mission went from finding Bin Laden and beating up the Taliban to simply occupying the country and hoping the US could turn it into a democracy (or more accurately a republic). He said that was pretty much impossible given the culture and history- so he realized that it was just another endless war the US was in (his words).
His job there was to act as a scout and call in airstrikes on enemy positions. He told me that he was involved in at least 100 missions where US planes bombed the Hell out of terrorist training camps- but as soon as one was blown up another quickly formed. Seems there was no shortage of radicals.
The only people who made out after 20 years were defense contactors, politicians who got kickbacks, and local Afghani officials who were corrupt as all get out.
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We were there just to spend money with defense contractors.
I was at a defense expo in Poland two years ago and I shared a booth called the "American Pavilion". This is where a number of US companies, mine included, were able to setup shop at a reduced cost. I happened to strike up a conversation with a guy in the booth area who represented a soldier tracking system company and found out he had served two tours in Afghanistan.
He gave me the rundown. After about a year or two there the mission went from finding Bin Laden and beating up the Taliban to simply occupying the country and hoping the US could turn it into a democratic country. He said that was pretty much impossible given the culture and history- so he realized that it was just another endless war the US was in (his words).
His job there was to act as a scout and call in airstrikes on enemy positions. He told me that he was involved in at least 100 missions where US planes bombed the Hell out of terrorist training camps- but as soon as one was blown up another quickly formed. Seems there was no shortage of radicals.
The only people who made out after 20 years were defense contactors, politicians who got kickbacks, and local Afghani officials who were corrupt as all get out.
Sounds about right.
I've known a few "contractors" from the area.
Similar stories.
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We were there just to spend money with defense contractors.
I was at a defense expo in Poland two years ago and I shared a booth called the "American Pavilion". This is where a number of US companies, mine included, were able to setup shop at a reduced cost. I happened to strike up a conversation with a guy in the booth area who represented a soldier tracking system company and found out he had served two tours in Afghanistan.
He gave me the rundown. After about a year or two there the mission went from finding Bin Laden and beating up the Taliban to simply occupying the country and hoping the US could turn it into a democracy (or more accurately a republic). He said that was pretty much impossible given the culture and history- so he realized that it was just another endless war the US was in (his words).
His job there was to act as a scout and call in airstrikes on enemy positions. He told me that he was involved in at least 100 missions where US planes bombed the Hell out of terrorist training camps- but as soon as one was blown up another quickly formed. Seems there was no shortage of radicals.
The only people who made out after 20 years were defense contactors, politicians who got kickbacks, and local Afghani officials who were corrupt as all get out.
Makes me wish I had gotten into that line of work when younger. Devote 10-15 years of your life to that line of work and you're set for life.
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Hmm, forgetting overall costs for a moment and instead considering the amount of US military deaths and actual GAIN from the war, I think it ranks at #4.
Echoing Humble Narcissist, the #1 absolute biggest military blunder must have been the Civil War with over 750,000 Americans lost in a stupid battle.
Vietnam should be the #2 shittiest military blunder for the US. We lost over 58,220 soldiers in Vietnam. Fuck did we accomplish? Why were we even there besides the notion of stopping the spread of communism?
The Iraq War probably ranks at #3. We lost 4,410 soldiers in that "war". Why were we there? We "thought" they had weapons of mass destruction and also felt there might have been some ties to the terrorist attacks of 9/11. Ultimately, we removed Saddam Hussein and destabilized the region, but hey it only cost us the lives of 4,410 Americans.
At my #4 is certainly the Afghanistan "war". We wasted 20 years in an area that has been known as the "graveyard of empires" and have lost about 2,500 American soldiers. Why were we there? Oh, just chasing after imaginary terrorists that were never there to begin with. 20 years later, we start to leave and the area gets overturned by the Taliban in a few days.
Some wars have been instrumental in our rise as the superpower that we are today, hence why I didn't mention a bunch of them regardless of American casualties. For instance, World War 2 allowed for us to fly in at the perfect time to reap the rewards of being instrumental for good to win over evil. That same card we played allowed for us to become the dominant world empire since 1945. Sadly, I think we are on the tail end of our glorious era. Much like the British and Dutch empires before us, we are committing the same mistakes and going down the same path.
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WW1 was a huge blunder as well. With the exception of WW2 which made the US a world power, all wars seem to be blunders.
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Makes me wish I had gotten into that line of work when younger. Devote 10-15 years of your life to that line of work and you're set for life.
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The amount of money to be made is sick. Seems there is no end to how much countries will spend to kill each other.
One day an entourage of Iraqi generals came through the expo with a shopping list for weaponry. They stood in front of a missile booth (full scale btw) and were in negotiations to buy a shitload. It was no different than grocery shopping.
I also chanced to talk to a guy from Lockheed Martin who had an F16 parked in his pavilion area! I asked if he had sold any yet and he laughed- the US government is giving aid to Poland but in return they have to spend it with US companies. So Lockheed was there to meet and greet.
BTW you don't have to make bombs to sell at these trade shows- they have everything from boots, tents, food, RV's, you name it. It's a regular Walmart of war stuff, lol
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Crazy part is, we still don't have a clear answer as to what the fuck the USA was doing there for 20 years.
We weren't looking for terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, as they were never in there to begin with.
Short of that, why else did we continue to poor trillions of dollars into Afghanistan? I've heard the argument of "well once you have all those massive military contracts in place (ie Halliburtons of the world) that employ so many people, you kind of have to keep the machine going as to not cause financial difficulties", but that shouldn't be enough for Americans to keep their mouths shut and cross their hands.
I feel like Americans just take it on the arm with these matters. They blindly accept the fact that every year they are slowly paying more and more in taxes with no good explanation as to where these tax dollars are going.
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Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location between Russia and China.
See thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=674159.msg9628283#msg9628283
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We were there just to spend money with defense contractors.
I was at a defense expo in Poland two years ago and I shared a booth called the "American Pavilion". This is where a number of US companies, mine included, were able to setup shop at a reduced cost. I happened to strike up a conversation with a guy in the booth area who represented a soldier tracking system company and found out he had served two tours in Afghanistan.
He gave me the rundown. After about a year or two there the mission went from finding Bin Laden and beating up the Taliban to simply occupying the country and hoping the US could turn it into a democracy (or more accurately a republic). He said that was pretty much impossible given the culture and history- so he realized that it was just another endless war the US was in (his words).
His job there was to act as a scout and call in airstrikes on enemy positions. He told me that he was involved in at least 100 missions where US planes bombed the Hell out of terrorist training camps- but as soon as one was blown up another quickly formed. Seems there was no shortage of radicals.
The only people who made out after 20 years were defense contactors, politicians who got kickbacks, and local Afghani officials who were corrupt as all get out.
Anyone who tells you something other than this is just peddling bullshit propaganda.
The amount of money to be made is sick. Seems there is no end to how much countries will spend to kill each other.
One day an entourage of Iraqi generals came through the expo with a shopping list for weaponry. They stood in front of a missile booth (full scale btw) and were in negotiations to buy a shitload. It was no different than grocery shopping.
I also chanced to talk to a guy from Lockheed Martin who had an F16 parked in his pavilion area! I asked if he had sold any yet and he laughed- the US government is giving aid to Poland but in return they have to spend it with US companies. So Lockheed was there to meet and greet.
BTW you don't have to make bombs to sell at these trade shows- they have everything from boots, tents, food, RV's, you name it. It's a regular Walmart of war stuff, lol
This is foreign aid in a nutshell. Really just a kickback to special interests.
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Afghanistan was seen as a strategic location between Russia and China.
See thread.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=674159.msg9628283#msg9628283
Will have a read at that!
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We left a shitload of military equipment over there like Humvees. You would think we would have taken that stuff home with us before leaving.
Nope, they never take most of that stuff back.
In WW2 they dumped the tanks and planes off the ships into the sea.
Crazy.
All the arms and equipment given to the Afghan Army went right into the Taliban's hands.
We should make friends with them and they can give Russia and China fits in the future.
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All the arms and equipment given to the Afghan Army went right into the Taliban's hands.
Biden handed Afghanistan to Taliban & now they LOVE him !.
He's gonna be 'Time's Man of the Year 2021' !.
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Remains of Dead Afghan Found in Landing Gear of US Military Plane
Human remains have been found in the landing gear of a U.S. Air Force plane that took off from the Kabul airport, after Afghans were seen clambering onto evacuating aircraft in a desperate attempt to flee the country.
The C-17 plane’s crew declared an emergency after its landing gear wouldn’t go up and, after it landed, found the human remains in the wheel well, the Washington Post reported, citing two sources. A POLITICO report said the remains belonged to one Afghan person.
Stowaways who hide in plane’s wheel wells face a high risk of death from falling or being crushed by the landing gear. The lack of oxygen and low temperature during the flight could also be fatal.
Footage from the Kabul international airport on Monday showed a throng of Afghans trying to board departing planes to escape the country, after Taliban fighters entered Afghanistan’s capital city on Sunday.
One shocking clip showed people holding on to the outside of a taxiing U.S. C-17 plane, as hundreds of others ran alongside it on the tarmac. In another clip, people were seen falling to their deaths from the aircraft in midair.
It is unclear if the plane where the body was found is the same one in the videos. At least seven people died in the airport chaos, including several who fell from a C-17 flight, the Associated Press reported, citing American officials. U.S. Defense Spokesman John Kirby said U.S. troops had shot dead two armed Afghans at the airport.
Although the Taliban has said it would not harm civilians, many Afghans, including those who have worked for the U.S. troops and other Western governments, fear retaliation and rights abuses under the fundamentalist group’s hardline rule.
With land borders controlled by the Taliban, the Kabul airport, now guarded by American troops, is the only way for Afghans to flee.
A U.S. Air Force C-17 Globemaster III evacuated about 640 Afghans from Kabul on Sunday, according to Defense One, even though the cargo plane was designated to carry 134 soldiers along with their equipment. A photo from the flight showed Afghans sitting shoulder-to-shoulder in the packed cabin.
U.S. troops temporarily closed the airport on Monday to clear the crowds on the runway. Evacuation flights resumed on Tuesday morning, according to Reuters.
Since U.S. troops began their pullout from Afghanistan after a 20-year war with the Taliban, the Islamist group took over the country’s regional capitals one by one as it advanced towards Kabul. Having taken over the capital, the Taliban seeks to establish a new government based on its hardline interpretation of Islamic law.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvzanz/kabul-airport-evacuation-deaths?utm_source=vice_facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR0sNNYeZZPgZnsgAEYoj53pAbhdcKgp6IZxumPnDaQiF0XUyLkeTqR5H9Y
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The Soviet War in Afghanistan in pictures, 1979-1989
The Soviet War in Afghanistan was a nine-year period involving the Soviet forces and the Mujahideen insurgents that were fighting to overthrow Afghanistan’s Marxist People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA) government.
The Soviet Union supported the government while the rebels found support from a variety of sources including the United States (in the context of the Cold War) and Pakistan. The conflict was a proxy war between the two superpowers, who never actually met in direct confrontation.
The actual reasons why the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan are far more complicated. The Soviet Union saw itself as being nearly entirely encircled by enemies. To the west stood Western Europe, which was filled with NATO forces, nuclear weapons, and American bases.
To the Southeast was China, which had nearly a million troops along the border with the USSR. By this point, relations between China and the USSR were just awful, there were frequent deadly skirmishes across the Ussuri River, and China was openly working with the United States to contain the Soviet Union by 1979.
https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/soviet-war-afganistan-in-pictures/?fbclid=IwAR1Elb5p46grvr3rBSB-X33AXFwjsqTNl2k2aPT3WO3QJGfmbEFhizovlAc
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oGgHOlKrb2k/WWlqQkEJvGI/AAAAAAAANNQ/1uhrBcOduKoPvjfSrIoT695H1ccmbtyRwCLcBGAs/s1600/Soviet_War_in_Afghanistan_in_pictures%2B%252817%2529.jpg)
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Harris having any part or pretending to have any part in US policy is laughable. I'm sure the government that's actually in charge is asking for Harris' input. ::)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvCyCczH/E9-Car9n-Vg-AAr-Yul.jpg)
Same with the cadaver that has to be told what to say and when to move his bones out of camera view
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4hx6tGf/E9-B1u-Ke-XIAEx-Mv-D.jpg)
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Taliban Gained 'Fair Amount' of US Defense Equipment: WH
https://www.newsmax.com/us/guns/2021/08/17/id/1032756/
'The White House acknowledged Tuesday that the Taliban had amassed a significant amount of US military equipment after seizing control of Afghanistan following two decades of war with American forces.
Pictures and videos have shown the Taliban with firearms and vehicles that Pentagon troops used or provided to the Afghan national security forces, as well as advanced UH-60 Black Hawk attack helicopters and other equipment at the Kandahar airport.
"We don't have a complete picture, obviously, of where every article of defense materials has gone. But certainly, a fair amount of it has fallen into the hands of the Taliban," said White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.
"Obviously, we don't have a sense that they are going to readily hand it over to us," he said.
Sullivan said losing control of millions of dollars worth of military supplies to an enemy is an example of "the difficult choices a president faces ... in the context of the end of a 20-year war."
He noted that the Black Hawks had been supplied to Afghan government forces to help battle the Taliban insurgency.
But the government forces succumbed to the Islamist insurgents quickly, and gave up control of large stores of weaponry and their helicopters.'
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It almost makes you think that the Afghan forces were working with the Taliban🤔
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We were there just to spend money with defense contractors.
I was at a defense expo in Poland two years ago and I shared a booth called the "American Pavilion". This is where a number of US companies, mine included, were able to setup shop at a reduced cost. I happened to strike up a conversation with a guy in the booth area who represented a soldier tracking system company and found out he had served two tours in Afghanistan.
He gave me the rundown. After about a year or two there the mission went from finding Bin Laden and beating up the Taliban to simply occupying the country and hoping the US could turn it into a democracy (or more accurately a republic). He said that was pretty much impossible given the culture and history- so he realized that it was just another endless war the US was in (his words).
His job there was to act as a scout and call in airstrikes on enemy positions. He told me that he was involved in at least 100 missions where US planes bombed the Hell out of terrorist training camps- but as soon as one was blown up another quickly formed. Seems there was no shortage of radicals.
The only people who made out after 20 years were defense contactors, politicians who got kickbacks, and local Afghani officials who were corrupt as all get out.
Thanks for this post. People with half a brain realized some time ago this whole thing was about making Afghanistan yet another globohomo outpost in which American degeneracy, mass homosexuality, mass whoredom, hip hop, anti-white hatred, black worship, female careerism and anti-natalism, and the scam of democracy could flourish.
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Thanks for this post. People with half a brain realized some time ago this whole thing was about making Afghanistan yet another globohomo outpost in which American degeneracy, mass homosexuality, mass whoredom, hip hop, anti-white hatred, black worship, female careerism and anti-natalism, and the scam of democracy could flourish.
True, but I’ve been hearing a lot of bullshit coming from the right, as well. Levin still acting like this was a legit mission. Pray tell Mark, why did the Afghan Army immediately throw in the towel against an opposition with less manpower and firepower?
On Monday’s Mark Levin show, President Biden has just reversed 20 years of enormous progress in Afghanistan, which was not a 20-year war. The US has been supplying air power and intelligence to the Afghan forces since 2014. The Taliban is not known to be one of the world’s strongest armies, but when Biden makes the mistake to end all of that abruptly you get an emboldened enemy who didn't have an air force but might certainly have one now, given the number of helicopters and equipment left behind by Biden's rapid troop withdrawal.
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There must be legions of moderate muslims condemning the taliban action.
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True, but I’ve been hearing a lot of bullshit coming from the right, as well. Levin still acting like this was a legit mission. Pray tell Mark, why did the Afghan Army immediately throw in the towel against an opposition with less manpower and firepower?
On Monday’s Mark Levin show, President Biden has just reversed 20 years of enormous progress in Afghanistan, which was not a 20-year war. The US has been supplying air power and intelligence to the Afghan forces since 2014. The Taliban is not known to be one of the world’s strongest armies, but when Biden makes the mistake to end all of that abruptly you get an emboldened enemy who didn't have an air force but might certainly have one now, given the number of helicopters and equipment left behind by Biden's rapid troop withdrawal.
Levin is a conservative and Conservatism is for losers.
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Official red talking points via Jeff Bezos WaPo.... making sure USA is no longer a superpower...and a quote "Biden's defiant address to the nation" if that isn't propaganda I don't know what is...he just handed an entire country over ::)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/withdrawal-from-afghanistan-forces-allies-and-adversaries-to-reconsider-americas-global-role/2021/08/17/2808ddbc-ff84-11eb-825d-01701f9ded64_story.html
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Bush #2, Obama, Trump, Biden... they all just told and retold the same bullshit lie. Not one single citizen of Afghanistan wanted us there. They always hated us and they always will.
Twenty years of pure folly.
Laughable.
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One benefit of fighting endless wars is that it hones the edge of the military.
The soldiers become experienced fighters and the military progresses in tactics and tech.
It costs too much though and eventually it bankrupts the country.
Yeah, it’s sure honed and progresses when it’s filled with 80-IQ drones, psychopaths, criminals, ex-gang members, women, and the alphabet crew.
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Regrets: Trump would beat Biden today, more women and blacks support
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A slew of new polls have come out this week showing the shrinking support for and approval of President Joe Biden, his average now below 50%.
The details of the survey, which samples more Democrats than Republicans, showed that Trump would win more women and blacks than he did in 2020 when he lost to Biden, 46.8%-51.3%.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/regrets-trump-beat-biden-today-141100643.html
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Bush #2, Obama, Trump, Biden... they all just told and retold the same bullshit lie. Not one single citizen of Afghanistan wanted us there. They always hated us and they always will.
Twenty years of pure folly.
Laughable.
Why all the worry?
The most popular President in history will meet with the smartest person he has ever met (Hunter) and solve this in a matter of minutes.
Either that or he will remain in hiding for another week and reaffirm his joke of a presidency.
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The Taliban has declared that Afghanistan will be a drug-free country. Oh dear!
This is what our “honed” and “progressive” troops were doing with some of their time there, patrolling poppy fields to help fuel our own heroine trade here!
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The Taliban has declared that Afghanistan will be a drug-free country. Oh dear!
This is what our “honed” and progressive troops were doing with some of their time there, patrolling poppy fields to help fuel our own heroine trade here!
And now the Taliban are lounging in the $700,000,000 U.S. Embassy.
They thank the US taxpayers and Joe Biden.
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And now the Taliban are lounging in the $700,000,000 U.S. Embassy.
They thank the US taxpayers and Joe Biden.
Good! The US Empire is approaching the finish line! And now it only stands for oligarchy, technocracy, tyranny, anti-white racism, whoredom, degeneracy, celebrity worship, hip hop, sports ball (which has thoroughly degenerated), man-on-man anal sex, and “freedom” (to be a loser, freak, public nuisance, and eyesore, that is).
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Good! The US Empire is approaching the finish line! And now it only stands for oligarchy, technocracy, tyranny, anti-white racism, whoredom, degeneracy, celebrity worship, hip hop, sports ball (which has thoroughly degenerated), man-on-man anal sex, and “freedom” (to be a loser, freak, public nuisance, and eyesore, that is).
And those are bad things?
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Trolling the worst president of al thiem.
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Trolling the worst president of al thiem.
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As dumb as Biden is, these guys aren't smart enough to know that Hiroshima 2.0, is a button push away.
They are just happy to have an ice cream for a selfie.
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As dumb as Biden is, these guys aren't smart enough to know that Hiroshima 2.0, is a button push away.
They are just happy to have an ice cream for a selfie.
Weekend at Bidens is not the POTUS. He is old senile and whacked the F out. He is not in charge.
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Weekend at Bidens is not the POTUS. He is old senile and whacked the F out. He is not in charge.
Settle down....have a sip of water. Let your boyfriend open it for you.
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Good! The US Empire is approaching the finish line! And now it only stands for oligarchy, technocracy, tyranny, anti-white racism, whoredom, degeneracy, celebrity worship, hip hop, sports ball (which has thoroughly degenerated), man-on-man anal sex, and “freedom” (to be a loser, freak, public nuisance, and eyesore, that is).
I’m waiting for the Taliban to send 150,000 - 200,000 of Afghanistan’s worst criminals and mentally disabled people to France, Germany, and the Scandinavian countries.
Then we can discuss the total ramifications of JoeJill Biden’s incompetence.
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As dumb as Biden is, these guys aren't smart enough to know that Hiroshima 2.0, is a button push away.
They are just happy to have an ice cream for a selfie.
That would have been funny if we nuked their asses as we were leaving.
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That would have been funny if we nuked their asses as we were leaving.
That's the problem. Now we have to deal with everyone's feelings.
Make no mistake, we are evacuating eveyone for a reason. It's simply not worth it.
Let them celebrate. We just don't want to kill innocent women and children.
Otherwise, they would cease to exist.
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I have not read through this entire thread. And this has probably already been stated, so forgive me, but... does anyone have the feeling that this was orchestrated to make Biden look ridiculous in front of the entire world?
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I have not read through this entire thread. And this probably has already been stated, so forgive me, but... does anyone get the feeling that this was orchestrated to make Biden look ridiculous in front of the entire world?
Apparently the administration wanted the troops out before the 20 year anniversary of 911. I guess they figured it would take a few months for this thing to collapse and in the meantime they could take a victory lap. I think they just miscalculated.
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Apparently the administration wanted the troops out before the 20 year anniversary of 911. I guess they figured it would take a few months for this thing to collapse and in the meantime they could take a victory lap. I think they just miscalculated.
Good reply, thank you
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It almost makes you think that the Afghan forces were working with the Taliban🤔
They were.
Maybe not directly, but they gave up and handed over everything without a fight. That is very obvious based on how fast the reclaimed the area.
They are countrymen and know the Taliban was going to take control again at some point.
No reason to risk their lives.
The difference between the USA and Taliban is that they will kill you no questions asked, over anything they want and not face punishment.
If we wound an innocent civilian it's a big deal and the entire world hears about how barbaric we are.
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I have not read through this entire thread. And this has probably already been stated, so forgive me, but... does anyone have the feeling that this was orchestrated to make Biden look ridiculous in front of the entire world?
Haha he achieved that all by himself long afore this taliban shit happened
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Apparently the administration wanted the troops out before the 20 year anniversary of 911. I guess they figured it would take a few months for this thing to collapse and in the meantime they could take a victory lap. I think they just miscalculated.
While the Taliban are primitive mostly, they do have intelligent people in the ranks that understand what was happening.
They knew they would be able to just walk on in to Kabul and retake everything along the way.
Our government knew it too, but they don't care because they will just blame someone else for it.
Look at the history of the area over the last 20-30 years.
This always happens when we leave.
The USA has never stabilized a region.
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I have not read through this entire thread. And this has probably already been stated, so forgive me, but... does anyone have the feeling that this was orchestrated to make Biden look ridiculous in front of the entire world?
To me this whole withdrawing troops from Afghanistan seems like a trap that Trump set for Biden in the final days of his administration. It worked.
Withdrawing is the right decision in my opinion, but it's something no president really wanted actually happening on their watch because of fear of the backlash Biden is now facing. I think everyone in Washington knew the Afghan government wouldn't survive once US troops withdrew and that the whole thing would be a huge mess.
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I’m waiting for the Taliban to send 150,000 - 200,000 of Afghanistan’s worst criminals and mentally disabled people to France, Germany, and the Scandinavian countries.
Then we can discuss the total ramifications of JoeJill Biden’s incompetence.
Yes, and the cucks, psychopaths, and traitors running these countries will gladly accept them!
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Blaming Trump. ;D
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Blaming Trump. ;D
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While the Taliban are primitive mostly, they do have intelligent people in the ranks that understand what was happening.
They knew they would be able to just walk on in to Kabul and retake everything along the way.
Our government knew it too, but they don't care because they will just blame someone else for it.
Look at the history of the area over the last 20-30 years.
This always happens when we leave.
The USA has never stabilized a region.
Heads should roll over this but it is the government and everyone involved will probably get promotions.
If you want to blame Biden, the real reason to do so is for the eight years of the Obama administration when they let this thing drag out.
If they were to ask Biden about this he would immediately throw Obama under the bus like he did during one of the debates “I wasn’t President’ 😂
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time to complain about shit on forums/social media is over
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Trump had the opportunity to pardon Assange and Snowden...
so he pardoned LiL Wayne'
makes sense
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JoeJill Biden has over 50 years of foreign policy experience.
He is EXACTLY the man the Democrats want leading the withdrawal out of Afghanistan.
As long as the military industrial complex gets paid and the political kickbacks continue.
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JoeJill Biden has over 50 years of foreign policy experience.
He is EXACTLY the man the Democrats want leading the withdrawal out of Afghanistan.
As long as the military industrial complex gets paid and the political kickbacks continue.
Capitulation of the CENTURY !. ::) ::) ::)
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Trump had the opportunity to pardon Assange and Snowden...
That would set a very bad precedence. A lot of bad press if he did that.
I have no problem with what they did.
We deserve to know the truth about our corrupt government her in USA and around the world.
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That would set a very bad precedence. A lot of bad press if he did that.
I have no problem with what they did.
We deserve to know the truth about our corrupt government her in USA and around the world.
Truth. But why would you think it was wrong to pardon them?
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That would set a very bad precedence. A lot of bad press if he did that.
I have no problem with what they did.
We deserve to know the truth about our corrupt government her in USA and around the world.
Obama already set the precedent with Bowe Bergdahl.
You will never know the tip of the iceberg of the corruption in the United States government
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It almost makes you think that the Afghan forces were working with the Taliban🤔
Yeah, I cannot work out why your average Afghan fella would want to go back to the 'old-fashioned' way of life, keeping the wife (wives?) at home just to shut the f*ck up, cook, clean up, breed and generally do as she's told without quest... er...
Oh wait...
;D
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Yeah, I cannot work out why your average Afghan fella would want to go back to the 'old-fashioned' way of life, keeping the wife (wives?) at home just to shut the f*ck up, cook, clean up, breed and generally do as she's told without quest... er...
Oh wait...
;D
Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
whores gonna whore
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
That sentence you got there...
It's a beautiful thing
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Truth. But why would you think it was wrong to pardon them?
I think pardoning people who commit treason against the US government and military isn't the best idea.
But i also don't have a problem with what they did.
It's a slippery slope. ;D
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Yeah, I cannot work out why your average Afghan fella would want to go back to the 'old-fashioned' way of life, keeping the wife (wives?) at home just to shut the f*ck up, cook, clean up, breed and generally do as she's told without quest... er...
Oh wait...
;D
I know right?
Who wants a mouthy bitch with an attitude telling you what to do every day. ;D
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
Damn son talk boutta mic drop :D
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
Great post!
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Apparently there was a peaceful transition of power. The Taliban just walked into each town and the soldiers’ on duty just handed over their weapons and left. Obviously it was all planned in advance.
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Apparently there was a peaceful transition of power. The Taliban just walked into each town and the soldiers’ on duty just handed over their weapons and left. Obviously it was all planned in advance.
Like a rigged election…
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Like a rigged election…
Or the flu repackaged to orchestrate a massive wealth transfer.
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BoB Straw 4 the 1st American ambasador in the Islamic Emirates of Afghanistan !.
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Apparently there was a peaceful transition of power. The Taliban just walked into each town and the soldiers’ on duty just handed over their weapons and left. Obviously it was all planned in advance.
Yup!
They were just waiting for us to leave.
Back to murdering a raping kids and women in the name of Allah.
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Or the flu repackaged to orchestrate a massive wealth transfer.
Thank you sir.
This now concludes today's Internet.
It was all just a great big bullshit con game. Laughable. Except for the soldiers that actually died. If my real life friends died in that worthless pile of rocks for this bullshit lie... I might be a little upset.
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
The truth of this post... it should be required reading in every school in the country.
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Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
Truth.
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your mom must be very proud of you
Women love simps like you.
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Reading through the main stream media this morning they seem disappointed that there isn’t massive blood shed in Afghanistan as a result of the Taliban taking charge.
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Reading through the main stream media this morning they seem disappointed that there isn’t massive blood shed in Afghanistan as a result of the Taliban taking charge.
You believe "massive blood shed" is happening in the open, come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those goat fuckers are raping little girls and women and the bodies are staking up.
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You believe "massive blood shed" is happening in the open, come on man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those goat fuckers are raping little girls and women and the bodies are staking up.
Then we should send in a few hundred thousand troops for 20 more years and spend another trillion or so dollars so that they can train and arm a make believe army which can throw in the towel immediately when it’s time to perform.😉
Women are much better off as angry, self-absorbed, unmarried childless wage slaves climbing a meaningless corporate ladder to pay off college debts until their barren wombs dry up and the shock that they were ultimately duped into not bringing life into the world leaves them inconsolably regretful until death kindly relieves them of their unfulfilled hellish existence. :P :D
This post would cause massive meltdowns on the New York Times or any other lib media comments section. It’s tempting.😂
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Then we should send in a few hundred thousand troops for 20 years and spend another trillion or so dollars so that they can train and arm a make believe army which can throw in the towel immediately when it’s time to perform.😉
This post would cause massive meltdowns on the New York Times or any other lib media comments section. It’s tempting.😂
Never said it was a worthwhile endeavor. Goat fuckers will be goat fuckers.
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NO MORE COVERING FOR THE DECREPIT CAREER LIAR.
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WTF? Our departure was conducted bass-ackward.
https://www.state.gov/gratitude-to-the-uae-for-facilitating-the-transit-of-u-s-citizens-embassy-personnel-and-others-from-afghanistan/
Gratitude to the UAE for Facilitating the Transit of U.S. Citizens, Embassy Personnel, and Others from Afghanistan
The United States is grateful to the United Arab Emirates for its humanitarian efforts and its gracious offer to facilitate the safe transit of U.S. citizens, embassy personnel, and foreign nationals evacuated from Kabul to third countries. The United States greatly appreciates the Emirati government’s support; it is emblematic of our strong and enduring partnership. We have no higher priority than the safety and security of U.S. citizens overseas, including our diplomats and service members in Afghanistan. We thank our Emirati partners for their support in this effort.
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I wonder why the Taliban doesn’t want “women’s liberation”? What are they scared of?
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“The Taliban is not the North Vietnamese Army, they're not. They're not remotely comparable in terms of capability. There's going to be no circumstance for you to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan." - Joe Biden, July 8, 2021
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While it’s fun to shit all over the demented old fool, this goes way way farther than some decrepit party apparatchik. It’s the entire military complex.
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While it’s fun to shit all over this demented old fool, this goes way way farther than some old party apparatchik. It’s the entire military complex.
Bingo.
Hundreds of billions poured into the military machine fighting in Afghanistan since October 2001. Those CEO's loved it.
Pure folly.
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Bingo.
Hundreds of billions poured into the military machine fighting in Afghanistan since October 2001. Those CEO's loved it.
Pure folly.
In a way, it reminds me of the movie Blazing Saddles, but, instead of a fake town, the US built a fake Afghan Army that immediately surrendered when the bad guys showed up.
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Let this be a lesson to all men, pulling out slowly is a better method than just yanking out too fast.
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US Embassy now warns Americans to avoid Kabul airport less than 24 hours after Biden said they had no intel that Americans were having issues leaving there.
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Taliban seizing everybody's travel docs. I'm sure this will end well..
Wouldn't want to be an Afghan with USA papers...they will be the first to lose their heads.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/taliban-seizing-afghan-americans-us-passports-outside-airport/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
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Taliban seizing everybody's travel docs. I'm sure this will end well..
Wouldn't want to be an Afghan with USA papers...they will be the first to lose their heads.
https://nypost.com/2021/08/20/taliban-seizing-afghan-americans-us-passports-outside-airport/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow
Maybe they just want to make sure everyone is vaccinated😉
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Amid all the wailing and gnashing of teeth here many seem not to notice how biddy Jo is slowly stealing Mr Trumps policies . Sure the pull out has been shamefully cruel and callous - of an order Liberals might expect from a Trump administration but there is little to suggest the US gives a fuck about who gets hurt. . The country just dont want to see that part. We are not hearing much of consequence or sincerity from the left progressives or the right neocons. Meanwhile biddy Jo is talking his own less obvious maga language. Mr Trump seems to be marginal to the discussion , except of course to his true faithful.
How long will it be before the GOP will notice this and start thinking of who to propose as president in 2024?
Biden, back when he was coherent, was not a hawk on Afghanistan. He was a hawk on Iraq and it bit him in the ass when his son died of cancer which apparently was the result of conditions he was exposed to over there.
Sloppy exit notwithstanding, ending this charade is the right thing to do.
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I wonder why the Taliban doesn’t want “women’s liberation”? What are they scared of?
So brave...
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Jocko Willink, a retired Navy SEAL, took to Instagram to post a brief video Monday imagining he was the U.S. commander-in-chief during an address to the nation about the Afghanistan calamity and steps that he would take to resolve the problem.
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Sleepy will plagiarize Willink's speech in his next address.
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Sleepy will plagiarize Willink's speech in his next address.
LOL ;D
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Maybe they just want to make sure everyone is vaccinated😉
This and they want fewer flights to fight climate change.
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This and they want fewer flights to fight climate change.
except their own in their private jets...lol
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except their own in their private jets...lol
Their donkeys farting don't help either.
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The newly appointed acting Prime Minister of #Afghanistan Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund is on the UN terror list.
JUST IN - Taliban have announced an "interim government" in #Afghanistan, to be led by one of their founders and with an FBI-wanted militant as interior minister. 33 cabinet members, not a single woman.
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The newly appointed acting Prime Minister of #Afghanistan Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund is on the UN terror list.
JUST IN - Taliban have announced an "interim government" in #Afghanistan, to be led by one of their founders and with an FBI-wanted militant as interior minister. 33 cabinet members, not a single woman.
We could send them Ilhan Omar.
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The newly appointed acting Prime Minister of #Afghanistan Mullah Mohammad Hassan Akhund is on the UN terror list.
JUST IN - Taliban have announced an "interim government" in #Afghanistan, to be led by one of their founders and with an FBI-wanted militant as interior minister. 33 cabinet members, not a single woman.
who cares what they do, it's their country, as long as they stick to themselves who gives a shit.
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Trump had the opportunity to pardon Assange
WikiLeaks’ publication in 2017 of documents that included CIA hacking tools, which it called Vault 7, so enraged some senior officials, including then-CIA Director Mike Pompeo, that it sparked discussions within the agency and the Trump White House about kidnapping or even killing WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-prosecution-of-alleged-wiki-leaks-vault-7-source-hits-multiple-roadblocks-235450811.html
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They're being put to better use, in the kitchen and in the bedroom.
Amen. Even though the muzzies are filthy liars whose "prophet" was an illiterate pedophile, they are correct in how they deal with women and queers.
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who cares what they do, it's their country, as long as they stick to themselves who gives a shit.
Talib's symphatizer re-detected !.
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Sounds familiar
Iranian women during the revolution celebrating the news of the Shah leaving Iran into exile, 1979.
Khomeini had promised to bring in democracy and that he would respect the rights of women, religious minorities, etc.
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Three wedding guests reportedly shot dead in Afghanistan for playing music at reception
Three guests were shot dead at a wedding reception in eastern Afghanistan on Friday night, apparently because music was being played, according to the Taliban.
The attack was carried out by three assailants who claimed to be members of the Taliban before opening fire, Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid told reporters at a press conference Sunday.
Mujahid said the gunmen attacked a reception taking place in the Surkh Rod district of Nangarhar Province. A local journalist also told CNN at least two people had been killed and 10 others injured.
The Taliban spokesman added that it was not permissible to kill anyone for playing music, and an investigation was underway to establish whether the incident was due to a personal feud.
"In the ranks of the Islamic Emirate no one has the right to turn anyone away from music or anything, only to try to persuade them. That is the main way," Mujahid told the press conference, according to AFP.
Mujahid later reiterated in a series of Twitter posts that the suspects had claimed to be Taliban members, and had asked for the music to be stopped before firing before opening fire -- but did not verify whether or not they were. He said two people connected to the incident had been arrested, but a third had escaped.
Although they disapprove of playing music at weddings and other public events, the Taliban has not issued a decree banning it since coming to power in August.
However, in late August folk singer Fawad Andarabi was dragged from his home and killed by the Taliban, while musicians in the country told CNN's Clarissa Ward they had been told not to play their instruments.
During their previous period of rule in Afghanistan from 1996 to 2001, the Taliban banned most forms of music as un-Islamic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/three-wedding-guests-reportedly-shot-dead-in-afghanistan-for-playing-music-at-reception/ar-AAQa55A?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&pfr=1
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This might be old news here on Getbig... but check it out...
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CV5pg0KjZ9W/?utm_medium=copy_link
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For those that hate America and it's history, realize that a ragtag, self made, ill equipped army went up against the mighty British and fought and died for the freedoms we have today. The Afghanistan army WAS trained and given state of the art weapons to kick the Taliban's ass but didn't have the balls to fight for the freedoms they now wish they had. The USA is a wonderful country and thank God for it's founders.
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For those that hate America and it's history, realize that a ragtag, self made, ill equipped army went up against the mighty British and fought and died for the freedoms we have today. The Afghanistan army WAS trained and given state of the art weapons to kick the Taliban's ass but didn't have the balls to fight for the freedoms they now wish they had. The USA is a wonderful country and thank God for it's founders.
The founding fathers of this country were some of the greatest people who have ever lived but that America is long gone. What we have now is a bloated corrupt government that exists primarily to perpetuate itself as opposed to working for the people. The war was a fraud. They all knew it was unwinnable but kept it going anyway to milk the taxpayers and benefit contractors.
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The founding fathers of this country were some of the greatest people who have ever lived but that America is long gone. What we have now is a bloated corrupt government that exists primarily to perpetuate itself as opposed to working for the people. The war was a fraud. They all knew it was unwinnable but kept it going anyway to milk the taxpayers and benefit contractors.
Well said.
The Afghan soldiers were waiting to step aside and let the Taliban take over.
They never had any intent of holding them back.
It was all a fraud.
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Dwindling aid, crumbling economy and ISIS add to Afghans' hardships under Taliban rule
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Under Taliban, Kabul's drug addicts forced into withdrawal
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We still have about 500 Americans and allies that Biden left behind.
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Well said.
The Afghan soldiers were waiting to step aside and let the Taliban take over.
They never had any intent of holding them back.
It was all a fraud.
I’m torn on whether or not they just punked out or if the majority of men just don’t like the Western way of life.
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so we send most us jobs overseas. the ones that are left here, we are committing to giving to illegal refugees?
ok, makes sense. ::)
demturds, the us economy and common-sense killers. ::)
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/more-than-30-major-companies-commit-to-training-hiring-afghan-refugees-in-u-s/
More Than 30 Major Companies Commit to Training, Hiring Afghan Refugees in U.S.
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I’m torn on whether or not they just punked out or if the majority of men just don’t like the Western way of life.
Hmmm... I wonder what aspects of the Western way of life those religiously devout fellas don't like..? 🤔
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Oh, and this...
I wonder why the Taliban doesn’t want “women’s liberation”? What are they scared of?
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