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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: BBSSchlemiel on August 22, 2021, 12:40:44 PM
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There is a lengthy video on You Tube someone linked on the forum about Shelby Starnes and his destructive prep coaching, particularly for women. Some of the talk was about possibly having Shelby charged with manslaughter. I’m no lawyer, but I can’t see how that’s even possible. I mean, yes, he’s reckless but would another prep coach be more responsible simply because he’s less reckless. Women who engage competitive drug-aided bodybuilding are reckless to begin with considering they willfully use diuretics and steroids and purposefully overtrain and go on starvation diets to peak for shows.
There is no “responsible” or “health-conscious” guru! None! That goes for those recommending to eat your veggies and exhorting people to get their blood checked. Walking into a doctors office and getting lab values checked doesn’t do a damn thing besides show the obvious: the drugs are destroying a bodybuilder. But doing what’s necessary to get healthy is hard, and also involves the obvious: stop doing the drugs, starvation dieting, and excessive training.
Both women on the show have that virilized, disturbing voice common in CrossFit and bodybuilding. This means they take anabolics by their own volition and they willingly go to coaches who do what’s necessary to win in drug aided female bodybuilding, and fucking oneself up is part of the game.
Recent competitor deaths are tragedies, and although I was somewhat moved by the death of John Meadows, a more hardened part of me cannot help but revert to a common Getbig adage: Ya play, ya pay!
What do you guys think of all this, seriously?
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If you're doing diuretics, which many or most gurus do, at least with some competitors, you're risking these types of situations. Singling out Shelby is a bit silly. I saw many other gurus chime in on this but I've heard similar stories about them so it's a bit ridiculous if they point fingers.
It will be interesting to see how Shelby's brand is affected by this. They said he has 400 active clients, he's the #1 female trainer. That's insane, think how much money he's been making, millions! :o I think they said 500 bucks a month per athlete but maybe I misheard ... it's a lot of money regardless.
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If you're doing diuretics, which many or most gurus do, at least with some competitors, you're risking these types of situations. Singling out Shelby is a bit silly. I saw many other gurus chime in on this but I've heard similar stories about them so it's a bit ridiculous if they point fingers.
It will be interesting to see how Shelby's brand is affected by this. They said he has 400 active clients, he's the #1 female trainer. That's insane, think how much money he's been making, millions! :o I think they said 500 bucks a month per athlete but maybe I misheard ... it's a lot of money regardless.
Wait until his protocols make it on here
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If you're doing diuretics, which many or most gurus do, at least with some competitors, you're risking these types of situations. Singling out Shelby is a bit silly. I saw many other gurus chime in on this but I've heard similar stories about them so it's a bit ridiculous if they point fingers.
It will be interesting to see how Shelby's brand is affected by this. They said he has 400 active clients, he's the #1 female trainer. That's insane, think how much money he's been making, millions! :o I think they said 500 bucks a month per athlete but maybe I misheard ... it's a lot of money regardless.
I think he will be affected only slightly. Yes they said 400 clients, which, as they pointed out, has him applying no individualization. Even 100 clients per month has gurus applying the copy-pasta strategy for most of them.
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Yep - adults gonna adult - let people do whatever they want as long as they don't harm me or mine. And let's be morbidly honest here, sudden deaths give us something to be (fake) scandalized and/or gossip about
In the most recent case, it appears the womans close friend actually knew what the SS protocol and associated 'goodies' actually were (T3, clen, DNP, etc) - which is unusual...
Because I am a coward who loves being alive with a full set of kidneys, I would be cautious about the use of each individual agent. But the polypharmacy aspect takes the combinational risk off the scale for me though...
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And can we get our (sort of) natty brother bhank in here to show this 'guru' (who is presumably pumped full of sh1t) how it's done please
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ambal.ru%2F02477507126.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
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Troponin's buddy of peace
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Perhaps he should embrace it - "Shelby Starnes promises you ripped to the bone conditioning dead or alive".
I think he will be affected only slightly. Yes they said 400 clients, which, as they pointed out, has him applying no individualization. Even 100 clients per month has gurus applying the copy-pasta strategy for most of them.
If they wanted to fuck him, a bunch of his clients should just dump his programs on Reddit or similar. Someone should just compile a database of all these cookie cutter programs, and let people pick and choose.
Anyway if you're going to guru, you'll be blamed for everything that goes wrong, it comes with the territory.
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And can we get our (sort of) natty brother bhank in here to show this 'guru' (who is presumably pumped full of sh1t) how it's done please
Does BHank have his own shirt? -
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/3623/0451/products/image_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1606854308).
Not kidding - https://therealoislane.com/products/limited-edition-shelby-starnes-face-tee .
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He starts diuretics a month out :o
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If they wanted to fuck him, a bunch of his clients should just dump his programs on Reddit or similar. Someone should just compile a database of all these cookie cutter programs, and let people pick and choose.
Palumbo is another cookie cutter. Whether you weigh 300 or 130lbs you get the same diet. When he was criticised for this
he said there aren't a whole lot of different diets that work. He has half a point there IMO. Bostin said he did a 13 week prep with Palumbo and diet didn't change once, all he did was increase cardio a bit and increase the thyroid and clen.
With Palumbo you get McDonald's double quarter pounders every now and then. He believes there's something special about this specific burger that makes you grow. :D
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Kim Oddo does the same crap for everyone imo
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Palumbo is another cookie cutter. Whether you weigh 300 or 130lbs you get the same diet. When he was criticised for this
he said there aren't a whole lot of different diets that work. He has half a point there IMO. Bostin said he did a 13 week prep with Palumbo and diet didn't change once, all he did was increase cardio a bit and increase the thyroid and clen.
With Palumbo you get McDonald's double quarter pounders every now and then. He believes there's something special about this specific burger that makes you grow. :D
They are pretty much all the same
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Perhaps he should embrace it - "Shelby Starnes promises you ripped to the bone conditioning dead or alive".
If they wanted to fuck him, a bunch of his clients should just dump his programs on Reddit or similar. Someone should just compile a database of all these cookie cutter programs, and let people pick and choose.
Anyway if you're going to guru, you'll be blamed for everything that goes wrong, it comes with the territory.
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Does BHank have his own shirt? -
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/3623/0451/products/image_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1606854308).
Not kidding - https://therealoislane.com/products/limited-edition-shelby-starnes-face-tee .
Haha a getbig shirt the same as that one but with blanks handsome smiling moustached face instead would be awesome
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The older I become, the more I view competitive bodybuilding as being entirely ridiculous.
Folks working, very diligently, at destroying their physical health.
These gurus and all the peaking bullshit is pure retardation.
Look at that Nick Walker fella. He’s early 20s and absolutely nuking his organs. No ifs, ands or buts. His waist is a disaster and his upper/lower proportions are major crap.
But he’s melting his innards for “that dream”.
I understand being young and feeling bulletproof, but it’s painful, at 51, to see these people wilfully doing major harm to themselves.
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Yeah if he truly has that many competitors he is bringing in 200k a month
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The older I become, the more I view competitive bodybuilding as being entirely ridiculous.
Folks working, very diligently, at destroying their physical health.
These gurus and all the peaking bullshit is pure retardation.
Look at that Nick Walker fella. He’s early 20s and absolutely nuking his organs. No ifs, ands or buts. His waist is a disaster and his upper/lower proportions are major crap.
But he’s melting his innards for “that dream”.
I understand being young and feeling bulletproof, but it’s painful, at 51, to see these people wilfully doing major harm to themselves.
I'm 34 and I feel the exact same way, it's perverse.
Nick walker will be lucky to make 30. That POS Jansen is another clown that doesn't learn from his mistakes. Looking at him lately though it seems he takes his own advices so thankfully he will likely kick it also sooner or later.
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So if you watch the first video about Starnes (was posted in the PIP thread I think) with Bostin and that Leo guy, they mention a 'Jodie' who is a Womens Physique competitor. Apparently, her death cycle of T3/DNP/Clen/700Cals/day recently ruined her heart at age 33 :o
But when you look at her Instagram, it's hard to tell she was using... (sarcasm alert here for Prime ;D)
(http://bhttps://i.postimg.cc/T3ZDyf4Y/Jodie-Engells.jpg)
Remember, this is a Physique competitor, not Bodybuilding...
It takes a lot to turn the stomach of an old degenerate like Taffin, but... *shudders*
Separate interview with her here
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The lengths people will go to for a plastic trophy.
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(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0267/3623/0451/products/image_1024x1024@2x.jpg?v=1606854308).
For a split-second there I swear I thought that was Starnes cross-dressing LOL ;D Must've been the glasses or something...
Ever since you found and posted the O'Hearn revelations, I wouldn't put your finding of anything past your sleuthing skills 8)
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Just the finishing touch...